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OregonDux
January 16th, 2007, 03:59 PM
I'm not sure if the 2k Sports team even looks at these forums, but i took some time to write a well thought out critique of College Hoops 2k7, and I hope they take my recommendations in consideration. Anyways, The game is great overall... but here is what i think can be most improved (or simply addressed).

Gameplay:
-Passing is terrible. Too often a player will throw a lackadaisical ball to a teammate, when the defense is playing tight. Sometimes they take forever and make an awkward pass and throw it right into the back or chest of an opponent... just too many terrible passes.

-Missed lay-ins. 90% or more of uncontested layins should be goin in the hoop.

-Ability to create. Watching the real college game is fun and exciting, but part of that is the individual players creating and getting to the hoop. I know it's not the NBA, but it does happen in college ball as well. I'm not sure if the game has it, but maybe having the defender have momentum, would allow the offender to get him goin the wrong way (ie hard step right, crossover, and the defender is off kilter, so you blow by him). This DOES happen once in awhile, but even with star players, it seem like the defense just knows your next move right when you make it.

-Better AI. Offensively, players stand around too much! More movement...

-Coaching options. The NBA 2k7 feature where you can just hit the D-pad to make quick substitutions would be an easy addition for CH2k8.

Graphics:
-This is probably where I find myself most dissapointed. 2K has traditionally been ahead of the game in terms of graphics, but both NBA 2k and College Hoops 2k seem to be lagging behind EA in that aspect (although that's really the only thing EA has goin for them). Please, clean up the player models, especially the faces and HAIR! The hair looks too unrealistic! Better lighting (EA does a great job here)! The environments are much better than last years edition, but they still could use some work. Get the student sections in the correct places, the team benches in the correct places (Oregon's team bench is on the wrong end of the court), and get more crowd involvement. The band could be more involved as well.

-Uniforms need to be updated. Oregon's uniforms arent even the same ones that they wear this year (a lot slight uniform changes were made this year actually, and the game doesnt seem to have any of them). That wouldnt' be too big of a deal, but last years uniforms that they have for Oregon STILL arent correct. Mainly, they dont have the Oregon logo on the pants where it should be. This may seem ticky tacky, but when playing with Oregon, it does make it look a little awkward when the shorts have no team logo. I also thought that it would be cool if you could have the headbands match the color of the uniform... different colors for home and away, and have the team logo on them as well (mainly because oregon and many other schools have players that wear headbands with the team logo on them).


Legacy (closed):
-Far too many foreign players. I had an entire team of foreign players and they were all very good... when do you see that in college basketball? They aren't recruited by other schools, so maybe that's why its easier to get so many of them.

-After getting deep in the legacy, essentially EVERY coach seems to be A+ in every category. What's up with that? I'm almost all A+, but now im not even among the great coaches, because every other coach is at my level or better.

-Coaches only seem to RETIRE. Not enough coaches are fired! Ive been waiting for several jobs... all the big jobs open, but only when the coaches RETIRE. Need some more firings, honestly.

-The Polls. The poll computer system seems to need a little brush up. I have been duke for 20 seasons and have won 7 national championships. I've been the preseason #1 only ONE time (and i often return 4 starts from a NC year). I've also been ranked in the top 10, then randomly drop 7 spots after winning 2 games when the next polls come out... kinda inconsistent. The polls should really be based on Overall Team Talent, Coaching, and School Prestige/Hype. Team unity seems like it should be an external factor when it comes to the polls, which is how an unranked, not so skilled team could make a run and win a lot of games.

-Coaching carousel is a great idea, but can we expand to have top assistants hired as head coaches? Maybe if you get fired from an entry level school (Like Sacred Heart or something), you can get hired as an assistant and gain some coaching points and get rehired as a head coach somewhere, or even promoted to an assistant at a big time school. You get the picture. (In the deep legacy i have going with Duke, both my assistants are almost A+ in everything... in reality, they would be snatched up by other programs as head coaches)

-Players leaving early and Exporting Draft classes to NBA 2k. First of all, can we at least TRY to convince our Juniors, Sophomores, and Freshman to consider playing another year? It would be nice to at least influence their decision a little bit. And concerning the draf classes--I love getting NBA 2k just for this feature, but it seems too many of the star players are just duds after you draft them into your NBA 2k franchise. Like in college recruiting, some of the highly regarded prospects should be very good, while some don't pan out quite as well (simply never improve or are not as good in the first place), while others that are drafted in the late rounds will sometimes come out of nowhere and lead all rookies in scoring.

Thanks for listening, and I hope these criticisms will be looked at to improve what is already the best college basketball video game.

OregonDux
January 18th, 2007, 04:42 AM
So... anyone have anything else to add? Comments?

candycane9999
January 18th, 2007, 02:04 PM
I agree with all of that. The graphics are one thing EA has an advantage on 2K Sports. The graphics are better than last year, but they can still improve significantly. They should get the missed layups fixed and the coaches need to have some input to their players about whether to leave early to jump to the NBA.

MHammer223
January 19th, 2007, 09:46 PM
I agree with everything you say. I have been doing a legacy with Providence College my team and I am now in my third season and I have played everygame. I'm not bored with the game at all, but there needs to be some variable in the game. I've made some suggestion in other threads. I think there needs to be different broadcasters for different games on different channels and all that. Some games arent televised so that needs to put into factor. Another thing that ****es me off is when your playing some **** *** team and you have a sold crowd of 20000 people because i know 20000 people dont go and watch Longwood get their asses handed to them. Another thing is the band and crowd. Im so tired of seeing the criwd wear the same color and everytime i have a home game there is about a section of 5000 people wearing the other teams colors. That doesnt even happen at in state rival games. The crowd should interact with the game a lot better instead of changin volumes and having random people in the crowd jumping up and down like idiots. The crowd needs to charge the court after an upset or least have one team celebrate. Another small thing that ****es me off is when your playing a game and your ranked or the other team is it doesnt show it on the scoreboard thing on the screen. As far as gameplay goes i couldnt agree more that layups are annoying and the computer shooting 900 threes a game. PC plays the 2-3 zone in real life which is vunerable towards the three and is acurate in the game, but I played Witchita State in a game where they went 23-34 i was so ****ing ****ed off even when i went man they still drained stupid lean away threes and threes in my face. The games awesome but the simple things that are wrong with it make me want to break jj re***** scrawny *** in two

Texasfan
January 27th, 2007, 02:08 AM
Legacy (closed):


-After getting deep in the legacy, essentially EVERY coach seems to be A+ in every category. What's up with that? I'm almost all A+, but now im not even among the great coaches, because every other coach is at my level or better.


This is by far the most annoying part of this years version. I've done multiple legacies on the 360 and it really almost makes the game unbearable. It's easy to get to the mid major school. But it's near impossible unless you play all your games to get to a power school. For example, I took La Tech to a final four. In real life, i'd have been offered a job by a power conference team in a heartbeat. But in this game I don't even make the list. Why? Because crappy conference coaches have coach ratings of 90 plus/100. Heck I've had more success than pretty much any other WAC school but all their coaches have higher ratings(i'm a B+). And the thing is the goals that are all left are the ones you would accomplish in a big conference.

And the last legacy I did I made the final four twice at UW-Milwaukee and never got jobs. It wasn't till the 3rd trip in a year with 10 power jobs open that I got one of the last ones avail in colorado. And I won a NC at colorado, and did not get one of the elite jobs.

Furthermore, I think the carousel is a great idea, but why can't we have the feature where we pick 4-5 schools midseason and see what they think of us as coaches, like they had on the original version of the series. At least we would get some idea where we stand.

On world recruiting, I agree it is too easy to get them, but look at how hard they have made getting national 4/5 star players if you are a mid major. As soon as the big schools offer, you are toast. I would rather have it more possible to get natl recruits than world recruits myself.

Also, there are a few too many injuries in this game. They are part of the game but some seasons it goes to the extreme.

Texasfan
January 27th, 2007, 03:32 AM
Oh and I just looked at some games on my new season schedule. I have 396 wins in 20 years and and 86 coach rating. My first opponent: VMI coach 6-21 career record 95 rating.

Then we have others higher than my 86 with losing career records(like 50-90). Yeah that makes loads of sense.

OregonDux
January 27th, 2007, 05:23 PM
Yeah i really hope that coaching issue is addressed...

They have such a great foundation, but there is a lot they can improve. If they do some of the things i have listed here, it won't even be close between college hooks and march madness...

If this gets done, i see a 9.0 score for 2k8

gopatriots15
January 27th, 2007, 06:17 PM
-Coaching options. The NBA 2k7 feature where you can just hit the D-pad to make quick substitutions would be an easy addition for CH2k8.


If your playing on the 360, you hold the right and left triggers to quick sub during a stoppage in play just as you would in nba 2k7. :)

lawcutta
January 27th, 2007, 06:31 PM
Some things do need to be fix. I build my powehouse out of world recruits because they are so easy to get.

OregonDux
January 28th, 2007, 05:26 PM
If your playing on the 360, you hold the right and left triggers to quick sub during a stoppage in play just as you would in nba 2k7. :)

i know that, but it's not as nice as the nba 2k feature, which allows you to make quick coaching decisions on the fly, AT ANY TIME. It's great... I can press right on the d-pad, sub someone in, and watch my coach go point at them, and then watch them run to mid court to sub in... i like it and want it implemented in CH2k8.

Texasfan
January 29th, 2007, 12:02 AM
Sorry, but this is ridiculous. As a test, I made the tourney at La Tech, and simmed/saved until I won the NC in the tournament. Jobs at nebraska, LSU, Minnesota, Oregon, Cal(who I beat in the final four) open up.

I'm not even on the 6 coach list for any of them.

But what I love about legacy is starting small, winning big, getting to mid major having success, then eventually getting to a power program, then to one of my top 5 schools like texas/unc and a host of others. I don't want to have to win multiple titles to do that, it's not realistic.

I just won a NC at Louisiana Tech and did not get an offer from a major program. This has to be fixed for next year, I can't believe somebody did not catch something as crucial to a college game as this feature.

I'm wondering if there is any way to get a roster patch with 2007's teams/players, to put on the 2k6 version because that game does not have this glitch.

GhostRider
January 29th, 2007, 11:58 AM
This thread is hogwash.Passing is not automaic in this game, so some people call that terrible I guess.It is certainly challenging, but that is part of the fun, getting good at it.

This game needs slight improvements, not 4 paragraphs worth.

CoachJackson
January 29th, 2007, 02:05 PM
Gotta respectfully disagree with GhostRider on this one. Passing does need to be improved a great deal. I don't mind getting the ball stolen or even seeing it sail out of bounds. What irks me is the passes that go into the back of my teammates or off their legs or wherever else. This is a sim game and manages to do well in most other areas. But the number of idiotic passes in no way reflect the way college ball is played.

OregonDux
January 29th, 2007, 09:41 PM
This thread is hogwash.Passing is not automatic in this game, so some people call that terrible I guess.It is certainly challenging, but that is part of the fun, getting good at it.

This game needs slight improvements, not 4 paragraphs worth.

What exactly does that mean? Did you read my 4 paragraphs? Do you play video games much? I could probably write 4 pages on what needs to be upgraded and implemented in madden 07, so 4 paragraphs of ideas and upgrades is definitely not overkill... If you read them, there are actually some good ideas. They are in paragraph form, because I like to explain why and what I think should upgraded/fixed etc... It's better than just making a List and not supporting any of your ideas, which you apparently favor. That's cool, but we're not in middle school anymore.

Texasfan
January 29th, 2007, 11:15 PM
This thread is hogwash.Passing is not automaic in this game, so some people call that terrible I guess.It is certainly challenging, but that is part of the fun, getting good at it.

This game needs slight improvements, not 4 paragraphs worth.

Um if you call needing to fix how you get jobs in legacy mode a slight improvement. This game is popular because of the closed legacy mode, and to have a glitch where coaches with losing records/at crappy schools have mid 90 coach ratings is not cool. I just proved that winning a NC at a mid major WAC school, doesn't a) get you a power conf job b) even on the 6 person list, unless your rating is high enough(ie 90 plus)

And some of the few remaining goals I haven't accomplished: 5 star in season/all american(really hard at La Tech because no matter if I get them to 100 interest, a big school offers and I don't win out), number 1 overall seed in dance and a number 1 seed period, all the 3 natl player of the year awards, the mr basketball(even if it's a 3 star, a big school always offers because he is mr basketball), 500 career wins, 800 career wins, 900 career wins, get hired by power conf team, get lifetime contract.

It's not really fun to have to win 2 or 3 natl titles at WAC/Horizon/MAC/Sun Belt/MAAC etc programs to draw interest from power conference teams, even the crappy ones.

I mean it's fun to play a game with a friend, but I love this game for the legacy mode, just like I love NCAA for dynasty mode. And they need to fix this glitch because it takes away a lot from legacy mode.

GhostRider
January 30th, 2007, 09:30 AM
What exactly does that mean? Did you read my 4 paragraphs? Do you play video games much? I could probably write 4 pages on what needs to be upgraded and implemented in madden 07, so 4 paragraphs of ideas and upgrades is definitely not overkill... If you read them, there are actually some good ideas. They are in paragraph form, because I like to explain why and what I think should upgraded/fixed etc... It's better than just making a List and not supporting any of your ideas, which you apparently favor. That's cool, but we're not in middle school anymore.


I have played every 2k Sports game ever made, and I have owned most of them.

I acknowledged passing is difficult, but that is part of the challenge.The only issue I really have with this game is when you barely get hit some times and then fall over and loose the ball.

You obviously need to work on your passing game.Once I learned to beat the press I haven't been having any more passing problems.

A.K.A MAD HANDLES
January 30th, 2007, 09:46 AM
yall all need 2 stfu , de only thing dey need to do is add more dunks, so i have more dunks to dunk on yall sorry az's

OregonDux
January 30th, 2007, 03:54 PM
yall all need 2 stfu , de only thing dey need to do is add more dunks, so i have more dunks to dunk on yall sorry az's

yall need to learn english

greenhead
January 31st, 2007, 12:03 AM
I started my closed legacy at the Citadel, after 3 years moved to Hawaii, after 4 years moved to Florida St, after 6 years moved to Clemson. I'm in my second season at Clemson. I usually play 75% of 50% of the games. That is, I sim 50% and usually 'sim to end' some time after halftime.

This is my first closed season on 2k7, I had 2k6 for both the xbox and the 360. I have a few gripes, but obviously, I like the game alot or I wouldn't play it so much.

The passing issue is a wash. I have no problems with occasionally throwing the ball away, especially when getting pressured. it happens, and it make the game more realistic. What ticks me off is when I'm bringing the ball up court, and I have a player right in front of me that I try to pass to, and the ball goes blindly down court to a player double covered under the basket. It is frustrating, but i usually just avoid making the pass now.

The only other gameplay issue I have is when the center stop, behind the mid court line when you are bringing the ball up court. Some times I'll attempt an alley-oop to a player under the basket, but instead, I'll throw the ball backwards to my center for a backcourt violation.

My biggest problem with closed legacy, by far, is recruiting. I take the time to find recruits that are either interested in me to begin with, or not interested in anyone yet. I'm almost always the first to offer, and will spend the majority of the season in the lead for a recruit, only to have someone...and not always an elite...come in and take the recruit from me. I usually still end up getting a decent class, but I'm always having to pick up the leftovers, and it makes me feel like all the time I spend on recruiting is a complete waste. I'm averaging about 22 wins a year, have had multiple Final Four appearances, won numerous conference titles, had three plers of the year and one big man of the year, won a national title at Hawaii and at FSU, but for the life of me I can't get a single 5*. That's plain wrong.

I think 2k8 should look (only briefly) at the NCAA Football series. In that, if you are a running team, you attract runners, if you are a passing team, you attract passers and WR. So, if you are an inside team, you should have an easier time recruiting C's and PF's, and so on. I don't know. it just seems so arbitrary who is interested in you. At FSU, I hardly ever landed a recruit from FL and at Clemson I have yet to get a SC recruit.

Other than that, I enjoy the game and look forward to 2k8.

Oh, one more thing, if there was a way in 2k8 to export snapshots to your PC like you can do in NCAA Football for the 360, that would be awesome!

Texasfan
February 1st, 2007, 09:45 PM
I started my closed legacy at the Citadel, after 3 years moved to Hawaii, after 4 years moved to Florida St, after 6 years moved to Clemson. I'm in my second season at Clemson. I usually play 75% of 50% of the games. That is, I sim 50% and usually 'sim to end' some time after halftime.

This is my first closed season on 2k7, I had 2k6 for both the xbox and the 360. I have a few gripes, but obviously, I like the game alot or I wouldn't play it so much.

My biggest problem with closed legacy, by far, is recruiting. I take the time to find recruits that are either interested in me to begin with, or not interested in anyone yet. I'm almost always the first to offer, and will spend the majority of the season in the lead for a recruit, only to have someone...and not always an elite...come in and take the recruit from me. I usually still end up getting a decent class, but I'm always having to pick up the leftovers, and it makes me feel like all the time I spend on recruiting is a complete waste. I'm averaging about 22 wins a year, have had multiple Final Four appearances, won numerous conference titles, had three plers of the year and one big man of the year, won a national title at Hawaii and at FSU, but for the life of me I can't get a single 5*. That's plain wrong.

I think 2k8 should look (only briefly) at the NCAA Football series. In that, if you are a running team, you attract runners, if you are a passing team, you attract passers and WR. So, if you are an inside team, you should have an easier time recruiting C's and PF's, and so on. I don't know. it just seems so arbitrary who is interested in you. At FSU, I hardly ever landed a recruit from FL and at Clemson I have yet to get a SC recruit.

Other than that, I enjoy the game and look forward to 2k8.

Oh, one more thing, if there was a way in 2k8 to export snapshots to your PC like you can do in NCAA Football for the 360, that would be awesome!

1) How did you do it? I mean, coaches at crappy small conference schools with losing records have higher coach ratings than my 89. I showed coaches who were 6-21 and 50-90 respectively in the mid 90's. That is why you can't get the jobs. In fact even with that 89 rating, and a natl title/two final fours in my career I can't even get sniffs from A-10/CUSA/MWC schools. Something is not right here. Granted the WAC I play in has the 7th highest rpi conference wise, but still it's a mid major compared to a major school.

2) It's impossible to recruit the mr basketball/5 stars consistently at a school like La Tech. And I have 3 A plus recruiters on my staff. All it takes is one power school to offer and i'm done. And thus I can't improve my coach rating.

3) Also how does every power conf coach have a 100 rating. They don't all have NC, 500, 800,900 wins, etc. But invariably go look at any power conference. The coaches all sans like maybe one/two have perfect ratings, which is why they never get fired either. It's definitely a glitch.

anESPNfan
February 1st, 2007, 11:58 PM
-Missed lay-ins. 90% or more of uncontested layins should be goin in the hoop.

-Ability to create. Watching the real college game is fun and exciting, but part of that is the individual players creating and getting to the hoop. I know it's not the NBA, but it does happen in college ball as well. I'm not sure if the game has it, but maybe having the defender have momentum, would allow the offender to get him goin the wrong way (ie hard step right, crossover, and the defender is off kilter, so you blow by him). This DOES happen once in awhile, but even with star players, it seem like the defense just knows your next move right when you make it.

-Better AI. Offensively, players stand around too much! More movement...

-Coaching options. The NBA 2k7 feature where you can just hit the D-pad to make quick substitutions would be an easy addition for CH2k8.



I disagree. I think the layup aspect is pretty much spot on, I have never had a problem with making layups that I should make. A wide open missed layup is very rare in the game, the thing you have to remember is that you're playing a college game and missed layups, even when they're wide open certainly do occur.

As far as the ability to create, again that gameplay aspect is perfect as well. On CH2k7 you have an amazing array of moves that you can pull off, and if there's a mismatch in the defense you can take advantage of it all game long. Also, you can get a defender going one way and go the other.
But, there has to be a balance in the game, if all a person has to do is pull off a couple shakes to drive to the basket all game long then you're not going to have a realistic product. You can still beat people off the dribble on 2k7, but it takes work and is usually best to run a set offense instead, which is true to life. Personally I'm hoping for a little more defense in 2k8.

Better AI I agree with. When they start standing around though just call a play for them.

Texasfan
February 6th, 2007, 12:59 PM
The coaching glitch is do to assistants, i'm convinced.

I think what happens is places like Duke get their assistants to A+ perfect. So then all those small conf bottom rung jobs that have no other applicants than the user playing, hires those assistants.

Problem is those assistants keep their assistant coach rating of almost perfect/perfect after they take that job. They don't have to start at C- like we do. So regardless of their success or lack of it at the small school, their rating stays at 100/high 90's, and they end up rated higher than you, so they move up the ladder while you stay in neutral.

Either that or they put a lot of unemployed coaches in the game with perfect ratings, which doesn't make as much sense to me.

colesioe
February 7th, 2007, 11:29 PM
Thats what the sliders are for, you to adjust your game, passing, defense, etc., Its too easy to drive the baseline in this game, thats, what ppl do and you should be able to adjust
like a CHARGE button. There is a charge button but its not explained, nor are the fancy post moves that are in and part of the game. If not in the written manual, than in the IN GAME MANUAL. explain defense and have a tutorial instead of us finding for ourselves. The d pad /on the fly coach that was explained earlier would be nice and also instructions on dual player. The most thing i would like to see and 2ksports should know by now is SPECTATOR Mode, To watch ppl play online, a way to learn ppl strengths & weaknesses. ITs been 2 yrs cmon 2k i know you can do it. Also just have tutorials on playing the game
ppl want to know the basics first,

rjsuperfly66
February 22nd, 2007, 06:50 PM
-Missed lay-ins. 90% or more of uncontested layins should be goin in the hoop.

-Ability to create. Watching the real college game is fun and exciting, but part of that is the individual players creating and getting to the hoop. I know it's not the NBA, but it does happen in college ball as well. I'm not sure if the game has it, but maybe having the defender have momentum, would allow the offender to get him goin the wrong way (ie hard step right, crossover, and the defender is off kilter, so you blow by him). This DOES happen once in awhile, but even with star players, it seem like the defense just knows your next move right when you make it.

-Better AI. Offensively, players stand around too much! More movement...

-Coaching options. The NBA 2k7 feature where you can just hit the D-pad to make quick substitutions would be an easy addition for CH2k8.

Graphics:
-This is probably where I find myself most dissapointed. 2K has traditionally been ahead of the game in terms of graphics, but both NBA 2k and College Hoops 2k seem to be lagging behind EA in that aspect (although that's really the only thing EA has goin for them). Please, clean up the player models, especially the faces and HAIR! The hair looks too unrealistic! Better lighting (EA does a great job here)! The environments are much better than last years edition, but they still could use some work. Get the student sections in the correct places, the team benches in the correct places (Oregon's team bench is on the wrong end of the court), and get more crowd involvement. The band could be more involved as well.

-Uniforms need to be updated. Oregon's uniforms arent even the same ones that they wear this year (a lot slight uniform changes were made this year actually, and the game doesnt seem to have any of them). That wouldnt' be too big of a deal, but last years uniforms that they have for Oregon STILL arent correct. Mainly, they dont have the Oregon logo on the pants where it should be. This may seem ticky tacky, but when playing with Oregon, it does make it look a little awkward when the shorts have no team logo. I also thought that it would be cool if you could have the headbands match the color of the uniform... different colors for home and away, and have the team logo on them as well (mainly because oregon and many other schools have players that wear headbands with the team logo on them).


Legacy (closed):

-Coaches only seem to RETIRE. Not enough coaches are fired! Ive been waiting for several jobs... all the big jobs open, but only when the coaches RETIRE. Need some more firings, honestly.



I kept these points in because I disagree with them.

Point 1: Sometimes easy lay-ups are missed, but there are two reasons why.

rjsuperfly66
February 22nd, 2007, 06:57 PM
-Missed lay-ins. 90% or more of uncontested layins should be goin in the hoop.

-Ability to create. Watching the real college game is fun and exciting, but part of that is the individual players creating and getting to the hoop. I know it's not the NBA, but it does happen in college ball as well. I'm not sure if the game has it, but maybe having the defender have momentum, would allow the offender to get him goin the wrong way (ie hard step right, crossover, and the defender is off kilter, so you blow by him). This DOES happen once in awhile, but even with star players, it seem like the defense just knows your next move right when you make it.

-Better AI. Offensively, players stand around too much! More movement...

-Coaching options. The NBA 2k7 feature where you can just hit the D-pad to make quick substitutions would be an easy addition for CH2k8.

Graphics:
-This is probably where I find myself most dissapointed. 2K has traditionally been ahead of the game in terms of graphics, but both NBA 2k and College Hoops 2k seem to be lagging behind EA in that aspect (although that's really the only thing EA has goin for them). Please, clean up the player models, especially the faces and HAIR! The hair looks too unrealistic! Better lighting (EA does a great job here)! The environments are much better than last years edition, but they still could use some work. Get the student sections in the correct places, the team benches in the correct places (Oregon's team bench is on the wrong end of the court), and get more crowd involvement. The band could be more involved as well.


Legacy (closed):

-Coaches only seem to RETIRE. Not enough coaches are fired! Ive been waiting for several jobs... all the big jobs open, but only when the coaches RETIRE. Need some more firings, honestly.



I kept these points in because I disagree with them.

Point 1: Sometimes easy lay-ups are missed, but there are two reasons why.
1. Pressure - Better players can make the lay-ups with a man in their
face. Worse players have a higher tendancy to miss.
2. Fatigue - If a player is tired, there is double the chance he misses a
contested layup.

Point 2: I don't agree with you player creation idea. I have 360, unsure what you have, but you can fake a defender with a jab-step to open up for the 3, or cross-him up to go through the lane.

Point 3: Dont only update A.I. for offense, but defense too, especially for XBOX Live.

Point 4: Their are quick substitutions, at least on 360.

Point 5: When producers have 8 months to develop a game, their is going to be mistakes, especially when they are trying to update rosters on 326 teams, add in schedules, and that stuff. I'm sure any college basketball fan can find a problem with the courts. I know that in the game at the Dunkin Donuts Center (Providence Friars), the Friars usually shoot left in the first half and right in the second half. Its the opposite in the game, and it is going to happen when they are trying to do it for 326.

Point 6: I think that in a closed legacy, several coaches are fired. The problem is that they are usually lower level coaches who do nothing for what you are looking to accomplish in the game.

Dicemoney6
February 22nd, 2007, 09:04 PM
i dont understand how ya feel that jus throwing the ball to nobody is ok, when in college basketball does a player jus throw the ball out of bounds? atleast let them try get it to their teammate and also sometimes when i do a move my player shoots the ball behind the basket the need to fix that the game is good but it is definitely not perfect