BRING BACK THE BATTING CURSOR

[dkslade]

world series baseball 2K3 had the awesome batting cursor, that you could move anywhere you wanted to and it would NOT reset in the middle after you let go of the analog stick.
such a great idea and done quite well,only to see it be abolished from any of the mlb 2K games recently,i really enjoyed the cursor to make the hitting MUCH more realistic with the hitting to be spread to all parts of the field instead of the same old 6-10 parts of the fields.
PLEASE, put this back in to the game as an option,for the die hard cursor fans out there.


lets hear it from the 2K faithful

[everyday endy]

I could never stand any batting coursers. They were so unnatural and very difficult so i always had to use the 1 button swing system which was not much better. It was a great relief when EA upated that swing system in MVP 2004 (I think) and the swing stick is even better in my opinion.

[ChunkeyMonkey]

I HATE the cursor, it got annoying and like everyday endy said, too hard.

[eLMaYiMbE8689]

In real life is there a little circle that u put on the ball and then swing? No!.....You see the ball hit the ball...the way MVP did it is the best, where u point which direction u want the ball to go and depending on the location of the pitch you would have to adjust.

[DerrekLeeForPresident]

I agree that the batting cursor isn't that great. However, I think the swing stick should be tweaked a bit so you just dont pull back the right analog stick and hit the ball. Its not like in real life where you always swing right down the middle and hope the ball hits the bat. You adjust to the location of the pitch, and then you swing. I would like them to implement something like that, but i dont want the old "aim and press A" system.

[baandje]

Bring back classic pitching.
Bring back effort pitching.
Bring back two-button hitting.
Bring back pure zone hitting.
Bring back control of all teams in franchise.

Why the F does 'next/now-gen' mean 'less-features'?

[majorleestoned]

In real life is there a little circle that u put on the ball and then swing? No!.....You see the ball hit the ball...the way MVP did it is the best, where u point which direction u want the ball to go and depending on the location of the pitch you would have to adjust.
oh so in real life you can just swing at any level and as long as your timming is correct you'll hit it, i hate the cursor as well but this is a video game okay

[Blitzburgh]

I actually really liked the cursor in the passed 2k games. It wasn't very hard if you practice with it. I actually used it on it's smallest setting and had a blast with it.

IMO the cursor WAS your eyes looking at the ball. That is how you hit a real baseball by watching it all the way into the bat.

It also gave you much more realistic hits and foul balls. I think the comination of the left stick (cursor) and the right stick (swing) would be a great combination.

Actually I just thought of something.... Can't you set the pitch location guess to be on all the time? That would then be your cursor to move.. I need to see if that is correct.

[Blitzburgh]

Dam, The pitch guess goes away. I thought it might stay on the screen.

[randyorton21]

I agree with DerrekLeeforpresident ea had it right but the swing stick just needed a little adjustment

[randyorton21]

Also just remembered I wanted to post this I hate that EA stopped making MVP I loved buying both games and playing one game for a day then the other and then comparing them in the forums I think its great that finally someone made a college baseball but YTH stop making your pro game?? I just don't understand their logic in that.
The only good thing to come from the EA dismantle of MVP was that guy coming over to
2ksports did anyone else see that teaser on the home page WOWOWOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only 2 things I didn't like in the whole thing was the dodger batter looked retro 2k6, and jose reyes running style looked like a retard having a seizure other than that though ichiro and johan looked like HD tv of a real game i was amazed I wonder wat it will look like on ps2 though hope they made over the graphics on it to

[majorleestoned]

its only gonna be 19.99 so i really wouldnt expect much definetely no new player models but maybe some new animation

[BoneThugged08]

They scraped it because 2k bought the rights, so nothing but first party mlb games can be made. Much like how EA bought the NFL rights. Payback is a *****

[Trevytrev11]

I'm not a huge fan of cursor hitting, because I don't think it resembles what a hitter really does to hit a ball. I'm not saying a hitter can swing anywhere and always hit the ball, but it's not so much of an aim as it is a reaction. It's the same thing when catching a ball. You just know where to put your glove, you don't move it a little up and then a little right and then down a little until you line it up. You know you just have to put the glove there to catch the ball.

What I mean is this:

Pick a small spot on your computer screen (maybe a letter or word in this post) and move your mouse to it as fast as you can. Chances are you will go too far and have to correct yourself and bring it back until you get to the exact spot.

Now, take that same spot and point to it with your finger as fast as you can. Your hand eye coorndination should allow you to get to the spot much faster. This is more like hitting. You see where the ball is going and you throw your hands at it. Your not aiming them because your instincts/handy eye coordination/what ever the hell it is called lets you know right where you need to swing.

Personally, I like a sytem where if the ball is up and in on a righty, you just press up and left and then swing. By pressing up and in, the hitter knows to keep his hands in and if you swing early, you hit it with the barrel and if you swing late, you hit it with the handle. If the pitch is low and away, you press down and right. If you are early, you roll over on the ball and probably ground out to the SS. If you are on it (or a little late) you go with the pitch and hit it to the right side.

Ground balls and flyballs would be a result of how far up or down or left or right you went. If the pitch was right down the middle and you pressed slightly up, you would get on top of the ball and hit it on the ground. If you were way too high, you would either miss or hit it stragiht into the ground. If you were slightly low, you would hit get the ball in the error. If you were way low, you would hit it pretty much straight up.

The direction you hit the ball would always be determined by the timing of your swing. Unless you cue the ball, it is impossible to have a righty swing early and hit the ball to the right side. And if you swing late, it's impossible to pull the ball.

The solid hits occur when both your timing and direction are right. If one of the two is off, you can still make contact, but likely it won't be solid.

1) Timing is right, but direction is off. Depending on how far off the direction is, you will either miss (imagine swinging up and in on a ball that is down and away) or hit it weekly (imagine hitting Rivera's cutter) as a righty, it looks like it's headed for the middle of the plate, so when you swing there, the ball hits of the end of the bat for a week grounder)

2) Direction is right, but timing is off. Depending on how far off the timing is, you can either swing and miss (Sitting on a slow curve only to get blown away by a 90 MPH fastball) or hit it weekly (swinging late on a fastball in will jam you up or swinging early on a changeup away will have you rollover on it).

Anyway, that would be my ideal system. I'm sure it has a name as it's been used before, but I don't know what it is called.

[esmeet]

I agree whole-heartedly with TrevyTrev. I think the current hitting system is closer to the "real feel" of hitting than the cursor system. (I realize others will have different opinions, and I completely respect those opinions as well.) I suppose they could include an old system like the cursor hitting as an option with the current system as the default...

[telekinesis]

1. When you're hitting, how do you know how close your bat was to the ball during the swing? It becomes more timing than actual location.

2. When you miss, how do you know you close or far away your bat was from the ball? With the cursor, you know exactly. The cursor resembles real life hitting in the way that you need to keep your eye on the ball even closer than analog hitting. In analog, you swing as soon as the timing of the speed was right, you don't really have to worry much about location of the ball. If the ball was just a little bit below, analog hitting would let you have it and you would have no idea exactly hwo far you were with the LEFT stick. A batting cursor would not let you have it unless you were some where on the ball with the cursor -- its not just timing, a lot of location-eyeing is involved. There's just more concentration in cusor hitting. Unless the pitch was way outside, in analog hitting, you don't really have to move the left stick very much because as long as your timing is good and you are somewhat close to the ball, the cpu would let you hit it.

3. This takes the fun out of pitching against a human player. The computer doesn't use analog hitting, people do. Hitting has become easier because analog is mostly about timing, not as much location, and as such, you won't strike out human players as much.

4. When you're hitting, can you hit it to first base line or third base line intentionally? Because people who are good with cursor hitting knows how to: get under the pitch, stay on top of the pitch for a chopper, slap to a particular player, line driving it to any part of the field, and etc.. all of this is done intentionally, not accidentally or unknowningly due to correct or incorrect timing.

Here is one way to please everyone: leave the option in, not remove it, but give us the option to disable or enable.

[ZosoCub]

Personally, I can't stand the "Swing Stick" and desperately miss the cursor. Swing Stick timed hitting is way too easy. I as well had a great time using the cursor on the "very small" setting. Hitting was way too easy in 2k6 and was a gamekiller for me (as well as numerous other factors, such as the rocket arms and franchise mess). I also miss the classic pitching. I miss not having a pitch cursor and strike zone outline, this makes pitching way too easy. I liked it better when I had to guess where the cursor was. However I do like breakpoint and payoff pitching, I just only wish there was an option to disable the pitch cursor and strike zone outline.

[worldserieschamps05]

the swing cursor is gone? i didnt notice

[Yankeekid07]

I think MVP had the best like eLMaYiMbE8689 said so i voted no

[dukefreak1231]

1. When you're hitting, how do you know how close your bat was to the ball during the swing? It becomes more timing than actual location.

2. When you miss, how do you know you close or far away your bat was from the ball? With the cursor, you know exactly. The cursor resembles real life hitting in the way that you need to keep your eye on the ball even closer than analog hitting. In analog, you swing as soon as the timing of the speed was right, you don't really have to worry much about location of the ball. If the ball was just a little bit below, analog hitting would let you have it and you would have no idea exactly hwo far you were with the LEFT stick. A batting cursor would not let you have it unless you were some where on the ball with the cursor -- its not just timing, a lot of location-eyeing is involved. There's just more concentration in cusor hitting. Unless the pitch was way outside, in analog hitting, you don't really have to move the left stick very much because as long as your timing is good and you are somewhat close to the ball, the cpu would let you hit it.

3. This takes the fun out of pitching against a human player. The computer doesn't use analog hitting, people do. Hitting has become easier because analog is mostly about timing, not as much location, and as such, you won't strike out human players as much.

4. When you're hitting, can you hit it to first base line or third base line intentionally? Because people who are good with cursor hitting knows how to: get under the pitch, stay on top of the pitch for a chopper, slap to a particular player, line driving it to any part of the field, and etc.. all of this is done intentionally, not accidentally or unknowningly due to correct or incorrect timing.

Here is one way to please everyone: leave the option in, not remove it, but give us the option to disable or enable.
I didnt like the curser either but you actually make a very good point, especially #4, and #3.

[machoo]

While I am not a fan of batting cursors, I do agree that they should be a playable option in the game. If so many people like it, and so many people do not, why not have both types of batting?

[Swisha]

I think there should be a playable option. I hate the swing stick.

[tmoneymill]

the swing stick is legit......i had just hitting x to swing..makes me fell like im playing playstation 1 all over again...... they might need to tweak it a bit so that every1 doesnt have the same swing...sort of like in nba 2k7 where every1 or almost has a signature shot.... in real life you have to bring your hands back and then drive through the ball...that is the reason for the pull back on the swing stick and also why i dont think im gonna like the sixaxis swinging....cuz all you gotta do is push forward.....now if they made it like the FT in NBA2k7 that would be legit... pull back on controller to bring hands back and the tilt down to swing...

[GhostRider]

Swing stick is the best.I also love locking in to a certain part of the plate and waiting for my pitch.

[Double-J]

I didn't care for the way the swing stick in 2K6 worked...if they could improve it, I might like it. I still prefer the old-fashioned button swing (although obviously the Wiimote swing is infinitely superior to any options here).

However, I hated the batting cursor. May it rest in peace.