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Lucius
February 27th, 2007, 08:11 PM
Hi all. New here.

I just bought MLB 2K7 for the PS2. I knew going in it wouldn't look as great as the PS3 or 360 versions because- hello, common sense? So there's that out of the way right now. I do not own a 360 or PS3 because right now I feel very intelligent and find paying $600+ for a video game console is ridiculous.

Now then.

The last baseball game I've played was EA's MVP '05, particularly the PC version where updates and customisation is much, MUCH easier. Therefore I cannot compare this to 2K6 or The Show franchise (though I'm now curious about The Show 2007- more on that in a moment).

First off, lets get the irrelevants out of the way. What is NOT IMPORTANT in this game are player ratings, non-MLBPA guys, batting orders, pitching rotations, etc etc etc because all of these matters are easily alterable. If a fellow is rated too high, just go and edit him. The player editing screens are very easy to navigate and quite intuitive. As far as music goes, who on earth could possibly hate a game just for that?

To me, what IS relevant in a game is gameplay first and foremost. Since I'm used to EA titles, the fluidity of the controls surprised me and is taking massive getting used to. Hitting is pretty smooth and simple, but baserunning- in particular stealing- is confusing.

I'm not entirely sure if its possible to double steal 2nd & 3rd or pull off a delayed double steal of home with runners on 1st and 3rd (I know this is a rather esoteric play post-deadball era but modern teams still do it sometimes and if they do it should thus be in the game).

All that said, the game looks TERRIBLE, even by old-gen standards. None of the players look real or have correct motions and everything has a very odd, very annoying all-pervading gray tint to it, causing everything to be muted and washed-out. I don't think there's a single vibrant color in the game, which when compared (especially) to my years of MVP '05 play is quite irritating.

Basically, I can't recommend the game, but I can't righteously slam it with indignation, either. Its not strictly a ripoff for $30 because the games can be fun to play casually. However, I'll be waiting for reviews of the new Show game to see what people say.

If anyone has any questions, I'll try to answer them. Thanks!

BJaysFan01
February 27th, 2007, 08:14 PM
i just got the game and my first impression was a little bit dissapointing but as i played more games i got the hang of it and now its very enjoyable.

Lucius
February 27th, 2007, 08:25 PM
Yeah, I feel pretty much the same way. I'm in the middle of a (odd, I know) Dbacks-White Sox game and there's no odd Hadesean gray! Hurrah.

Lucius
February 27th, 2007, 08:37 PM
Oh, and one thing I forgot to mention that REALLY bothers me:

If runners move up on a wild pitch, the game counts it as a stolen base. Apparently we're playing 1880s rules. So, assuming that, there must also be a way to stomp the umpire with sharpened spikes a la John McGraw.

Prime Time
February 27th, 2007, 08:41 PM
Ugh... 2K7 was horrible. I got it this morning then I returned it tonight. I didn't even have it for an entire day. I am now the proud owner of MLB 07: The Show. The Show is great, it's the best baseball game I've ever played.

Lucius
February 27th, 2007, 08:44 PM
Can you point out the differences between 2K7 and The Show? You're not the first guy to say its better.

Prime Time
February 27th, 2007, 09:41 PM
The big difference Pitching. The view is from the catcher it is more of an NCAA MVP style, it's a very fun way to pitch. It's much more difficult and harder to rack up K's.

The player models are years ahead of old-gen 2K... players acctuly come close to resembling their MLB counterparts.

Batting is different... there is no swing stick, which sucks. It uses a two button system like MLB 2K5... I like it, swing stick is better but this is still fun.

Players are rated better and the rosters are more accurate, so there is less work to do.

The Show's graphics are some of the best for PS2 I've ever seen... much, much better than 2K7.

2K has better menus, but The Shows blows it away in every other category except batting, because of the swing stick.

Here read the preview. http://ps2.ign.com/objects/868/868302.html

terry4505
February 28th, 2007, 06:20 AM
I am returning 2k7 for The Show today. I am so disappointed

Lucius
February 28th, 2007, 01:40 PM
Well, I've had a day to fool around with the game and honestly, its not nearly as bad as my first impression. It took some getting used to, and now for me even the graphics don't seem as bad as they did originally.

Obviously, everyone should play whatever game satisfies them the most, but I'm not going to run out and spend 40 additional dollars to get The Show, though I may rent it just to contrast and compare.

A couple amusing things about this game, though: for some reason, Hoyt Wilhelm looks black, and fake, electronic Jon Miller & Joe Morgan do a much better broadcast than real, live Jon Miller & Joe Morgan. Fascinating don't you think?

findinghomer
February 28th, 2007, 01:52 PM
I am returning 2k7 for The Show today. I am so disappointed


i heard that, glad im not the only one who feels this way. thanx for the review on the show, think ill trade my 2k and madden in for that. what did you get for 2k?

ps. Lucius, have you heard of "around the horn baseball"? its a pc mvp 05 baseball online baseball league full of stand up guys, if your interested let me know (if your not in it already :) ).

haight
February 28th, 2007, 01:56 PM
Well, I've had a day to fool around with the game and honestly, its not nearly as bad as my first impression. It took some getting used to, and now for me even the graphics don't seem as bad as they did originally.




I agree the more I play the more I like it but it still isn't great.I'm going to try to sell it to my Brother for $20 and then see if I can get a used copy of The Show in a few weeks.

Double-J
February 28th, 2007, 02:01 PM
Batting is different... there is no swing stick, which sucks. It uses a two button system like MLB 2K5... I like it, swing stick is better but this is still fun.

Can you have a one-button system with the left-analog stick influencing the swing in '07 The Show?

Lucius
February 28th, 2007, 02:04 PM
Lucius, have you heard of "around the horn baseball"? its a pc mvp 05 baseball online baseball league full of stand up guys, if your interested let me know (if your not in it already :) ).

I've actually never tried any of the online leagues... PM with the details or a site or whatever and I'll check it out :)

Prime Time
February 28th, 2007, 02:06 PM
Can you have a one-button system with the left-analog stick influencing the swing in '07 The Show?

The left analog stick will influence the swing on every level above rookie (veteran and up). I'm pretty sure you can only use one button on rookie. I'm still playing around with it though...

findinghomer
February 28th, 2007, 02:07 PM
heres the link:

http://z6.invisionfree.com/Around_The_Horn/index.php?

its a GM -style online league/ progression , trades , free agents, rookie , contracts, they use mods, all kindds of stuff, very fun if you have mvp 05 for pc.

Disappointedin2k7
March 3rd, 2007, 08:07 AM
I can't be the only person where the PS2 verson freezes up every time you play it. I have tried it with multiple systems and all other game work fine on my PS2. I returned my first copy in exchange for another and this one freezes up just the same. Is anyone else having this problem?

Lucius
March 3rd, 2007, 09:38 AM
I ended up selling mine and getting The Show, but the handful of games I played for 2K7 never froze. There was some minor herky-jerkiness at times, but nothing to take away from gameplay at all.

On the Sony forums for The Show, people were complaining about that game freezing as well, so I'm wondering... what model of PS2 are you playing with? I don't know if that'd matter, but I'm using the newest little-sized model and everything's been swell.

Yankeefan1
April 23rd, 2007, 05:01 PM
its fun until it freezes like a robber in a jewelry store lol