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urethra franklin
March 12th, 2007, 01:34 PM
How is it possible that for 2 years now, 2k sports has actually made the MLB series progressively worse? I first got into these games at 2k5 - hardly perfect but a very enjoyable game. We were promised huge upgrades with 2k6 but instead got totally unusable fielding, and every kind of bug imaginable. The ratings seemingly hadn't been updated since 1999, the rosters almost as far back, Jon Miller and Joe Morgan stumbled over their words, repeated themselves, announced that virtually every player had "no homeruns last year" or "no runs batted in last year" or that they had "been thrown out trying to stretch a single into a double" in their last at bat when none of these were factually accurate. I know I'm also not the only one who was thrown out after my baserunner took an EXCEPTIONALLY large turn around 1B....even on a BUNT SINGLE! Trying to cut off throws from the outfield usually resulted in the ball rolling to the backstop as every one of your fielders suddenly became catatonic mongoloids. The in game replays showed video of spots on the field where no action was taking place and attempting to manual view replays was impossible. All of this after the game's release was pushed back almost TWO MONTHS!!! I'd love to have seen what they had working at the anticipated release date.

Aside from all of that, it was still slow and prone to crashing for absolutely NO F#% reason. The directional sliding was nice, as was the throwing/pickoff system for the catcher. I always thought the swing stick interface was horrible so I've never used it, but I know other people like it.

Now fast forward a year, they've got people from the MVP series working on it, the design team is "admitting" 2k6 was a mistake and that everything would be perfect in this years version.....

So for the good:
1) The fielding is better (not much better)
2) It came out on time

For the worse:
1) The baserunning is horrible, the old system worked just fine....and there's no way to speed up runners in this version which I REALLY hate.
2) The ratings are absurd, although the system hasn't changed at all. Anyone who has ever created a player or tweaked the ratings in a past 2k game (even a 12 year old kid) could have clued the game's designer's in on how to do this.
3) The player names and faces are all messed up, we got black guys who are supposed to be white, white guys who are supposed to be black, names changed for no reason, guys who bat left batting right and all sorts of anarchy. There have always been name screw ups in past games, so that's no big deal....but a black Mike DiFelice or Jayson Werth is non-repairable. I know most people won't care since they're not big name players, but for a lot of us who play franchise mode it's pretty annoying/stupid.
4) Jon Miller and Joe Morgan still have no clue what's going on. I don't have to hear "he was thrown out trying to stretch a single into a double!" anymore, but anytime a ball is fielded by a rightfielder you have to hear "....aaaAAANNNDD HE BOOTED IT!!!" regardless of whether the ball was fielded cleanly or not. There's other voice goofs too, but none of them have been engraved in my f@#% consciousness and will give me nightmares yet like the 2k6 voiceover problems.
5) Moving players between AA/AAA/MLB freely is impossible, and if you try to update your rosters too quickly (which is very necessary since 2k didn't bother with it) the game will start making players on your roster free agents or assigning them to random teams. The only way to get around this is to move ONE player at a time, assign them to AA (because there's no free slots on AAA) then move them UP by sending minor league players down. This is annoying as hell but at least theres a way around it unlike most of the other problems.
6) Balls that are OBVIOUSLY CAUGHT go over the fence for home runs, all in all this game seems a lot more catered to people who enjoy football scores than baseball simulation fans...no small thanks to nearly every borderline decent offensive player being rated 100 or more.

I know 2k's focus was on the next-gen systems, which is fine....but I feel like I was completely lied to and wasted $30 on a non-playable piece of junk, and I've done this for TWO YEARS NOW -- except it was more expensive last year. Not only that, but having a little bit of a programming background, it's just absurd how easy it would've been to have just FIXED ALL OF 2k6 PROBLEMS which is what this game essentially is supposed to be (note: it has none of the advanced features of the next-gen versions).

I really think 2k just crippled this game on purpose in order to make all of us move to the next gen systems and game versions, considering I hear that The Show for PS2/Xbox isn't too hot either, it'll probably work too.

Screw you 2kSports, you know I'm right.

Bomber525
March 12th, 2007, 09:12 PM
Why the hell is every single player rated 100? Cliff F***ing Floyd?!?!!? He was hurt ALL of last season. Marcus Giles?!?!?!?!? He just flat out blows at baseball!!! There is not a SINGLE addition to the hitting pitching or fielding as far as I can tell, only removed features ( o speed boost!). The voice overs are the EXACT SAME as last year's, and the gameplay is simply not improved. I must say the rating everyone 100 out of sheer laziness is what really gets me. I was really expecting a lot more than this. I could S*** a game with less mistakes. And who is that random pitcher, I think his name is Randy Messenger? He is black and rated 95 and I have no idea who he is supposed to replace

HunterSkunter
March 12th, 2007, 10:30 PM
Just play MVP Baseball 05. Still the best baseball game, just update your own rosters, edit some players. SOOOOOO much better than any baseball game 2K has put out.

urethra franklin
March 12th, 2007, 11:02 PM
The black free agent pitcher is ROGER CLEMENS....yeah. The more I play it the more I find wrong with it. Did they even test these games ONCE the last two years? So much of this stuff could've been fixed with a couple lines of code at most....nevermind the stuff that seems to be broken on purpose this year.

I've never played the MVP series but I hear very good things, might be time to switch.

Drachenfire
March 12th, 2007, 11:46 PM
ummmmm I guess you all have the ps2 version cause the ps3 version is definitely by far the best baseball game I ever played besides baseball stars on original nintendo. Yeah there are still some flaws with the game and it may seem like it might have been rushed but the game looks so incredible on the PS3. By far the most realistic looking baseball game I played. Well some players may not look exactly right but the ones that matter do in my opinion.

Drachenfire
March 12th, 2007, 11:48 PM
and thats very weird about Roger Clemens being a black free agent because on ps3 he is Roger Clemens but still free agent.

urethra franklin
March 13th, 2007, 02:28 AM
Yeah everything I hear about the PS3 version is very positive, this is the forum for the PS2/XBOX versions though which they actually removed features from this year for no reason.

cougarsixx
March 17th, 2007, 11:11 AM
I agree, the PS2 2K6 and 2K7 are awful. I cannot stand to play them. A big waste of my money and time hopeing either of these versions were as good as 2K5. The 2K5 version does have a few minor problems but overall it is one hell of a lot more fun to play. I really could care less about all these graphic details to make the players look and act exactly like real life if the game is not fun or annoying to play. One of the key features I wish was in the new baseball game versions is the batting cursor! Please bring it back! The tension and intensity of facing a hard throwing pitcher and trying to guess where and what type of pitch will be thrown is unmatched in 2K5. Even when you do guess right, you still have to time your swing with the pitch and getting a good swing on the ball feels alot more like I actually rocked the pitcher than just jerking the joystick and fouling off a hundred pitches before hitting a weak fly ball. (you get my point). Also I like the old style pitching where you just aim and select the pitch. I don't like to know that before my pitcher releases the ball that the pitch will not be where I aimed because I did not do the crosshairs, green bar or arrows correctly. I like to just rock and fire when I pitch. You also never get a high strike call in the 2K6 or 2K7 versions. I've seen belt high fastballs right over the heart of the plate get called for balls!!! Feilding is horrible in the newer versions also. In 2K5 you can recover your fielders if you go one direction than another direction to get to the ball. In the new versions, I don't know how many ****ed off times I've had when I go left with a fielder than back right and he takes forever to recover, falls down, runs into another fielder or the wall and an easy play becomes an extra base hit! The latest (2K7) has so many annoying features I cannot stand to turn it on anymore. How about the lazy pop fly you hit that hangs in the air for an hour so the outfielder has time to run 100 yards and catch it in foul territory next to the stands! ARRGH!! Stat pages are hard to read, accurate stats are even worse, commentary is awful also as previously stated. Until the newer versions adapt a better way to play the game, I will continue to update my 2K5 rosters as best I can so that I can continue to enjoy playing video game baseball.

dannyboy9695
March 17th, 2007, 11:16 AM
What you gotta do is but a ps3. Then ps3 game is sooo good:thumbsup: :) :lol: :cool:

Dzyr
March 18th, 2007, 08:02 PM
Just play MVP Baseball 05. Still the best baseball game, just update your own rosters, edit some players. SOOOOOO much better than any baseball game 2K has put out.

Sorry dude, 2K7360 took that honor away.

Denny3650
March 21st, 2007, 10:28 AM
They just left the old gen behind becouse the 360 and ps3 versions are the best i have ever seen. the game looks so realistic and the signiture batting is exactly how the real players do it. for example what albert pujols does after batting a home run is what he does in the game

also the player ratings are accurate in the nex-gen systems