MADDEN BEWARE: An exclusive look at 2Ksports gridiron return

[bdoughty]

http://gameinformer.com/NR/rdonlyres/EB74A936-8CE8-44E9-846E-ABE766AA1BE6/12021/cover_ed.jpg

[fatman]

well that's certainly great to see. 'exclusive' ...i wonder if it really means that or only for magazines? who knows.

[joe frost]

I would like to see it be on the cover other than an overhyped franchise but I guess it's better than nothing.

[thePLAGUE]

probably the only time i shall buy a video game magazine...When is the magazine coming out?

[bdoughty]

I would like to see it be on the cover other than an overhyped franchise but I guess it's better than nothing.

Quick name the last sports game (simulation) to be on the cover of any of the major magazines.


Can't recall the last one? Exactly. Yearly sports titles are not worthy of magazine covers, even those returning from the grave.

GTA is many things. Overhyped is not one of them. Rockstar does a terrific job of holding back info and teasing the consumer. Similar to what Bungie does with Halo. Of course when you release a trailer that knocks down multiple sites due to traffic load (see yesterdays trailer) it appears there is far more demand then you give credit for.

[fatman]

a little off topic, but i'm digging the russian for the main character. CJ was like a 'gangster do-gooder' ...it wasn't right. Ray liotta was awesome and pulled it off nicely...The russian will be cool, and it hasn't been done before for a main character.

That is actually a really cool looking issue...i never buy gamer mag's but I may pick this one up, unless websites get all the APF info and I know all there is to know.

[bdoughty]

probably the only time i shall buy a video game magazine...When is the magazine coming out?

Based on when the last one hit around 3 weeks. Of course there really is no need to buy it, because by the time it hits the stands the magazine will have been scanned many times over and freely available at most sites that allow scans of US magazines.

[bdoughty]

a little off topic, but i'm digging the russian for the main character. CJ was like a 'gangster do-gooder' ...it wasn't right. Ray liotta was awesome and pulled it off nicely...The russian will be cool, and it hasn't been done before for a main character.



I liked the little twist (Russian) although I think using someone like a Leon "The Professional movie" with the loner hitman for hire aspect would have been a nice way to go too.

[joe frost]

You are right about the sports thing but I break down games like movies and truth is that if you take out meaniless things in the game. That in my opinion only anyone from the ages of 10-18 could get enjoyment out of the is C class at best but thats just my opinion.

[kcxiv]

I have a sub to that magazine. My sister keeps renewing it for me for some reason. So hell, its good to read while i take my morning release. haha.

Anyways, looking forward to the magazine.

[Akuma2000]

This is very good news, we know real info is coming and confirmed.......can't wait to see the features and other goodies that Take 2 has been hush hush about.

[MorningGlory]

This is awesome. We knew it would happen, but it's nice to see it confirmed. Sports titles, even the almighty Madden, never get the cover. I'm impressed that this gets a mention at the top of the cover. It's the only thing mentioned besides GTA. The only reason why I'll be skeptical when picking up the issue is coz Gamestop will think I like GTA IV. I won't even bother to look at the pictures....APF!!!

[Nykid31]

looks sweet cant wait

[BigDRunnin]

"Madden Beware" maybe there is something totally breakthrough in the game....but then again, I could be putting way too much meaning into that

[Akuma2000]

"Madden Beware" maybe there is something totally breakthrough in the game....but then again, I could be putting way too much meaning into that

Knowing how 2K loves innovation in thier games, you can't put it past them or underestimate tem.

The VIP system in 2k5 was the best innovative feature ever seen in a football game, nothing similair has been seen since because we all know EA isn't gonna bring nothing like that to madden.

[Deranged]

Then again, FPF might of been considered a breakthrough, atleast hyped to be, at its time.

Anyway, I cant wait. Ill probably pick the mag up myself, cause the GTA bit interests me aswell.

[loudiamonds]

I expect APF 2k8 to have at least 7 new features that 2k5 didn't have. Some of those breakthrough for football period.

1). Euphoria tackling based system.
2). Most unbelievable editors to date. Helmets, logos, uniforms, stadiums, equipment.
3). Signature styles- Qb throwing motions, running back styles, running styles stride ect.
4). Real time lighting.
5). Spot specific grass.
6). Player create from NBA 2k7.
7). New presentation pregame, halftime, weekly, postgame. Franchise with players getting in trouble suspensions, everything the NFL is ashamed of.

[Akuma2000]

I expect APF 2k8 to have at least 7 new features that 2k5 didn't have. Some of those breakthrough for football period.

1). Euphoria tackling based system.
2). Most unbelievable editors to date. Helmets, logos, uniforms, stadiums, equipment.
3). Signature styles- Qb throwing motions, running back styles, running styles stride ect.
4). Real time lighting.
5). Spot specific grass.
6). Player create from NBA 2k7.
7). New presentation pregame, halftime, weekly, postgame. Franchise with players getting in trouble suspensions, everything the NFL is ashamed of.

Yea, i expect to see those too.

I also hope that pratice squads are added soplayers can be signed from them to take the place of players on the active roster who end up on injured reserve......

[NFL2K]

I expect APF 2k8 to have at least 7 new features that 2k5 didn't have. Some of those breakthrough for football period.

1). Euphoria tackling based system.
2). Most unbelievable editors to date. Helmets, logos, uniforms, stadiums, equipment.
3). Signature styles- Qb throwing motions, running back styles, running styles stride ect.
4). Real time lighting.
5). Spot specific grass.
6). Player create from NBA 2k7.
7). New presentation pregame, halftime, weekly, postgame. Franchise with players getting in trouble suspensions, everything the NFL is ashamed of.

Many people over look this, but lighting is a big deal. I don't know what it is about the stadium overpass shadows and contrasts, but it adds something to the graphics that takes the game to the next level. 2K5 had this down tight at Ralph Wilson Stadium (play during the day), Texas Stadium (play during the afternoon), and Reliant Stadium (play during the afternoon). I wish 2K had fooled around with this more.

I'll tell you what I'd like to see, and I know we probably won't, but still... I'd like to see a function that lets me create my own lighting/overpass shadows; the shape, the frequency that they appear, and the speed in which they move across the field. I know, I'm dreaming, but I had to put it out there...

If anyone is curious, just play a game at the stadiums and times I mentioned. It's hot.

[oubobcat]

I expect APF 2k8 to have at least 7 new features that 2k5 didn't have. Some of those breakthrough for football period.

1). Euphoria tackling based system.
2). Most unbelievable editors to date. Helmets, logos, uniforms, stadiums, equipment.
3). Signature styles- Qb throwing motions, running back styles, running styles stride ect.
4). Real time lighting.
5). Spot specific grass.
6). Player create from NBA 2k7.
7). New presentation pregame, halftime, weekly, postgame. Franchise with players getting in trouble suspensions, everything the NFL is ashamed of.

You mention the Player Create from NBA 2k7... I am curious what you mean by that. I haven't played the game...just curious... thanks

[Dblock1111]

^^ it is a extremely in depth create that lets u modify just about every part of ur player
go rent the game to see what i mean

[jwilson3rd]

EA BETTER GET IT TOGETHER.BECAUSE IT'S A SHAME THAT A GAME WITH MADE UP PEOPLE WILL PUT MADDEN TO SHAME.I'M GLAD EA GETTING RICHER ON THE SAME GAME EVERY YEAR WITH UPDATED ROSTERS.

[oubobcat]

So, you decided to make your first post something to make us flame you over? Seriously...you have to try a lot harder to make a complete azz of yourself. Go back to your EA board and talk about your Madden 06 in an 07 box!

[NFL2K]

Actually, jwilson's post doesn't even make sense. I'm not sure what the hell he's really trying to say as his statements are conflicting.

People are strange.

[MorningGlory]

Jwilson is taking up for 2k you morons. He's saying EA should get their act together because it will be sad when a game, made up of fictional characters, will be better. And the "I'm glad" statement he made was being sarcastic. He was taking a knock at Madden by saying it's the same game every year but with updated rosters. So stop being lame and bashing him on a forum. Learn how to read.

[NFL2K]

Jwilson is taking up for 2k you morons. He's saying EA should get their act together because it will be sad when a game, made up of fictional characters, will be better. And the "I'm glad" statement he made was being sarcastic. He was taking a knock at Madden by saying it's the same game every year but with updated rosters. So stop being lame and bashing him on a forum. Learn how to read.

Jwilson has trouble writing coherent sentences. That isn't our fault; his message can easily be confusing because it was so poorly written.

If you want to stick up for your boyfriend, be my guest, but don't insult us because of his deficiencies.

Just 10 posts in and I can already tell that you're not worth reading... MorningGlory is ignore listed.

... *sigh* so many retards, so few ignore list spaces. Whatever will I do?

[GoodSense]

EA BETTER GET IT TOGETHER.BECAUSE IT'S A SHAME THAT A GAME WITH MADE UP PEOPLE WILL PUT MADDEN TO SHAME.I'M GLAD EA GETTING RICHER ON THE SAME GAME EVERY YEAR WITH UPDATED ROSTERS.

You got that right.

[GoodSense]

So, you decided to make your first post something to make us flame you over? Seriously...you have to try a lot harder to make a complete azz of yourself. Go back to your EA board and talk about your Madden 06 in an 07 box!

Easy.... easy.... the guy sounds like he is making FUN of EA, if I'm reading this correctly.
The first statement is proof of this. The second one is more like sarcasm.

Either that or a simple typo. Maybe he highlighted too much and took out one too many words. Happens all the time to casual posters who are not looking to impress people on a message board.
But I could be wrong, so maybe he will comeback and clear things up.

[GoodSense]

Jwilson is taking up for 2k you morons. He's saying EA should get their act together because it will be sad when a game, made up of fictional characters, will be better. And the "I'm glad" statement he made was being sarcastic. He was taking a knock at Madden by saying it's the same game every year but with updated rosters. So stop being lame and bashing him on a forum. Learn how to read.

I was thinking the same thing that he was making fun of EA and his second statement was him being sarcastic.

It is kinda sad when a poster comes on board knocking the competition and still gets attacked.

[GoodSense]

Jwilson has trouble writing coherent sentences. That isn't our fault; his message can easily be confusing because it was so poorly written.

If you want to stick up for your boyfriend, be my guest, but don't insult us because of his deficiencies.

Just 10 posts in and I can already tell that you're not worth reading... MorningGlory is ignore listed.

... *sigh* so many retards, so few ignore list spaces. Whatever will I do?

Since I'm on his ignore list I can't ask him directly.... but is this dude homophobic or something?

He keeps making a lot of references with regard to homosexuality.
I believe it is just the military that has the policy "don't ask don't tell."
If you are a friend of his lend him your ear because it really seems like he has something on this subject to uh.... confess?

[Martino]

Cant we all just get along?

[Akuma2000]

EA BETTER GET IT TOGETHER.BECAUSE IT'S A SHAME THAT A GAME WITH MADE UP PEOPLE WILL PUT MADDEN TO SHAME.I'M GLAD EA GETTING RICHER ON THE SAME GAME EVERY YEAR WITH UPDATED ROSTERS.

Yup, EA is about get the hammer dropped on them by APF2K8'...........but we all know EA won't care because they think by having the nfl license it "autuomatically" makes their game good, which isn't the case and the only reason te game sells is name recognition.

[bomerball]

wow this bored has gotten worse since i've been gone. *shrugs*

i cant wait for this game =]

[NFL2K]

As soon as these dudes start talking out of their azzez, I'm just toss'in'em right into the bottomless pit (the ignore list). Of course, they'll still keep trying to jaw at me because they're not bright enough to realize that I can no longer read their B.S.

... It's funny and sad at the same time... but mostly sad.

[GoodSense]

Ok... folks... I know he is your guy, but look at the contradiction unless he changes it.

He thinks anyone on his ignore list is in a bottomless pit. :lol:
This is too funny. Who pumped up his bottomless pit ego???

As for continued jawing, how does he know if people are on his ignore list?
One final thing. Read his signature and you tell me who is keeps trying to jaw.


He really needs to get off his virtual world high horse and comeback down to reality.

[GoodSense]

Cant we all just get along?

:lol: As long as you don't disagree with the grand pooba of the forum.
Otherwise you'll end up on his ignore list. :lol:

[bomerball]

Need i remind you of the age old adage about those who argue over the internet?

C'mon boys, quit you're whining and contribute to the boards!

[Disasterpiece]

As soon as these dudes start talking out of their azzez, I'm just toss'in'em right into the bottomless pit (the ignore list). Of course, they'll still keep trying to jaw at me because they're not bright enough to realize that I can no longer read their B.S.

... It's funny and sad at the same time... but mostly sad.

Grow up. You're boasting about having people on your ignore list on a message board, to the extent that you have people listed in your sig. It really doesn't get any more dopey and pathetic than that. Go outside.

[MorningGlory]

I really hope NFL2k is joking. I don't want to be tossed into his bottomless pit. lol, what will I ever do to get out ? At least GoodSense has a brain. So maybe he and I will be able to collaborate and find a way out of this pit . . .

[kcxiv]

ooooh. can i make that special list too? ignore me please!!!!!!!!!!

[NFL2K]

Need i remind you of the age old adage about those who argue over the internet?

The adage is a bad one. It tries to remove human behavior from communication, which can't be done. The same thing could be attempted for arguing over the phone, or in a letter, etc. it doesn't hold any weight.

As long as Human beings are dealing, there will be disagreements. As long as there are disagreements, there'll be arguments. It doesn't matter what medium you use. Of course, I've tried to end the arguments by ignoring them, but I can't stop them from continuing.


C'mon boys, quit you're whining and contribute to the boards!

I'm certainly not whining. I handled the situation. I've contributed a lot here, these children who pop up out of nowhere, who know nothing about anything, running their mouths... they've contributed nothing here, and they've probably contributed nothing anywhere in their entire lives. That's probably the reason they come here to vent their frustrations.

[NFL2K]

Grow up. You're boasting about having people on your ignore list on a message board, to the extent that you have people listed in your sig. It really doesn't get any more dopey and pathetic than that. Go outside.

But somehow your post was supposed to be a maturity barometer? The very fact that you signed up and wasted the time to post an insult on someone you've had no history with shows that you lack maturity (and intelligence).

The board has an ignore function. I have to use it because people around here, like yourself, lack the basic ability to be civil. I post in my sig who I've listed for two reasons:

1. So that maybe they'll stop running their mouths and realize that I can't see what they're writing anymore, which if they do stop it will be good for the community.

2. Maybe they'll get angry, go too far, and get banned.

#2 is big because quite frankly the people on the list have contributed nothing since they've signed up, have only caused trouble, and really don't belong here anyway. Them being banned will only help the community.

And, yes I will add you to the list now since you fall into the categories described. Don't like it? Neither do I. If you guys would quit acting like dumbazzez I wouldn't have to keep shutting you out. How do you not understand something so simple?

[NFL2K]

ooooh. can i make that special list too?

*shrugs*

You can do whatever you want.


ignore me please!!!!!!!!!!

I've been doing that since day one :rotfl:

[FakedShinobi`]

lol ive seen some sad ****.. but making a ignore list then putting in your sig? man thats sad....

seriously.. think about it.. that really is the dumbest idea.. its not like they are actually talking and is in your ear.. you can just scroll pass there post...

[newberry94005]

I say that NFL2k should be able to put what he wants on his sig. Anyone for that matter. I have not been on these boards as long as him, but sometimes i wish we had more interactivity from the guys that do have something useful to say.

Arguments on the boards is good, as long as they stay classy and dont turn into children fighting back in forth.

NFL2K, I dont have an ignore list(just my choice). Its cool you have decided to have one but dont make such a big deal out of it. Just keep up the good posts and only respond to intelligent questions/comments.

The community will grow tremendously as the new information comes out. When we have screen shots and stats to talk about, all this will go out the window anyway.

All Pro Football 2K8- remember why we are even here.

[xrams]

#2 is big because quite frankly the people on the list have contributed nothing since they've signed up, have only caused trouble, and really don't belong here anyway. Them being banned will only help the community.
NLF.. you've known that since the 1st days of membership... however, it seems to gotten worse within the last yr. are so...:rolleyes: I read the boards all the time... and try to add something, but to no avail....:thumbsdow the level of convo. is such that any post would be a waste of time... (I hope not in this case)?!?!?

And, yes I will add you to the list now since you fall into the categories described. Don't like it? Neither do I. If you guys would quit acting like dumbazzez I wouldn't have to keep shutting you out. How do you not understand something so simple?the n00bs are still trying to take you on I see.... I can understand folks that don't know you (NFL) but there are folks here that should know better....:confused: As far the them being dumbazzez.... I just think most n00bs on this site are board... and can't wait (like me) for the new FB game to drop... but that doesn't explain the folks the have a post count from 700 and up....:think:

[NFL2K]

lol ive seen some sad ****.. but making a ignore list then putting in your sig? man thats sad....

I really don't care what you think of it. Quite frankly, you're one of, if not THEE least respected posters around here. No one takes you seriously, you never have anything worthwhile to say and you're constantly getting clowned, and for good reason.

I didn't ask you to like what I'm doing. Why would I? You have no credibility.

I pointed out pretty clearly why I'm doing this, and it works for me either way.


seriously.. think about it.. that really is the dumbest idea.. its not like they are actually talking and is in your ear.. you can just scroll pass there post...

Again, I didn't ask you to like the idea. You don't like it? Then do what you just said: scroll past it.

I might as well ignore list you too (I certainly won't be missing anything) since you're almost certainly going to want to turn this into something bigger than it is, and I just don't feel like battling wits with the unarmed.

[bomerball]

Hey, i still have respect for NFL cuz i have seen him contribute a lot to these boards but let me just defend my anti-internet-arguing statement.

Arguments over the net tend to be much less sincere since people feel as if they can say things they wouldn't normally say in a real world setting. they tend to be far more hostile and a lot more un-reasonable. There is no personability for it, and the only interaction that occurs between the two people is over the computer so no person feels accountable for what they say. this leads to people saying really dumb stuff and also leads to people lying to prove points and being un-reasonable. Arguing over the internet will not achieve anything. But with that said, a good point is made in saying that Humans = Conflict and as long as you are dealing with humans you will ALWAYS have conflict. this is because none of us are the same! we all have different viewpoints and personalities, and they clash. What we have to learn to do is be more open to these different types of viewpoints and personalities so there is less fighting and we can convene as one contributing board.

[NFL2K]

I say that NFL2k should be able to put what he wants on his sig. Anyone for that matter. I have not been on these boards as long as him, but sometimes i wish we had more interactivity from the guys that do have something useful to say.

Arguments on the boards is good, as long as they stay classy and dont turn into children fighting back in forth.

NFL2K, I dont have an ignore list(just my choice). Its cool you have decided to have one but dont make such a big deal out of it. Just keep up the good posts and only respond to intelligent questions/comments.

The community will grow tremendously as the new information comes out. When we have screen shots and stats to talk about, all this will go out the window anyway.

All Pro Football 2K8- remember why we are even here.

Thanks Newberry.

I honestly don't think I'm making a big deal of it though. The list is a function of the board; 2K created that function, I'm just using it. These guys that are jawing are useless to the community. I'd like nothing better than to see them gone. If what I'm doing helps that happen, then it's mission accomplished. If not, it's still good because I don't have to read their crap.

I've had to deal with this all before, and I left here because of it. I don't want this to turn out like it did the last time, so the best way for me to take control of the situation is to use the ignore list function.

[NFL2K]

Hey, i still have respect for NFL cuz i have seen him contribute a lot to these boards but let me just defend my anti-internet-arguing statement.

Arguments over the net tend to be much less sincere since people feel as if they can say things they wouldn't normally say in a real world setting. they tend to be far more hostile and a lot more un-reasonable. There is no personability for it, and the only interaction that occurs between the two people is over the computer so no person feels accountable for what they say. this leads to people saying really dumb stuff and also leads to people lying to prove points and being un-reasonable. Arguing over the internet will not achieve anything. But with that said, a good point is made in saying that Humans = Conflict and as long as you are dealing with humans you will ALWAYS have conflict. this is because none of us are the same! we all have different viewpoints and personalities, and they clash. What we have to learn to do is be more open to these different types of viewpoints and personalities so there is less fighting and we can convene as one contributing board.

Great post bomberall :thumbsup:

Why can't others disagree and make points with the sort of class you showed here?

[NFL2K]

NLF.. you've known that since the 1st days of membership... however, it seems to gotten worse within the last yr. are so...:rolleyes: I read the boards all the time... and try to add something, but to no avail....:thumbsdow the level of convo. is such that any post would be a waste of time... (I hope not in this case)?!?!?

the n00bs are still trying to take you on I see.... I can understand folks that don't know you (NFL) but there are folks here that should know better....:confused: As far the them being dumbazzez.... I just think most n00bs on this site are board... and can't wait (like me) for the new FB game to drop... but that doesn't explain the folks the have a post count from 700 and up....:think:

Excellent points X.

I honestly don't understand it myself. I mean, you and I have not always agreed on everything, but I didn't attack you because you disagreed, nor did you attack me. We're Adults, so we communicate like Adults should. But some of these other guys around here go into Armageddon mode, exploding with insults in their very first posts, lol. Who are these guys?

X, you know what my thoughts were about returning here... I was only coming back because of the football game, and at the time I was telling you about things it didn't look like a game was ever coming. Now that we know there is one, I am happy to be back in support of it, but this influx of guys taking potshots is just reminding why I left in the first place and it's beginning to not be fun again. If I didn't ignore list these guys, I'd have no choice but to leave. Things would be unbearable.

[allpro-anticipation]

Lets just talk about the game in here.................

One idea i though would be great for the game, what the game is based around internet play and instead of 11 man teams the teams consist of of 22 players a team. So each individual has a specific duty just like if they were actually on a team. So for instance a player that plays safety only is capable of watching the game while the offense was on the field. So when we join a team instead of made up players you put your own information on the players profile and jersey. So it puts you more into the game. I was also thinking that a team could also consist of those individuals that never really got into the aspect of playing football but more into the strategy concept of playing. Eventually maybe 2k can establish a league where there is a grand prize for the winner, and possibly find comglomerates, like reebok, Walmart, Target and so forth that are willing to sponser a team make the decisions for coaching and signing players based on how well they perform. And if you are a player that can really make a difference like a quarterback that has 20 TD's and 2 INT's when signed to a companies team you can earn money for consistancy or just simply because you are a top prospect.

Please share ideas..........

[allpro-anticipation]

and when i was regarding to those that are more into the aspect of strategy each team can also consist of a coach. That is a primary decision maker

[allpro-anticipation]

2k could be the first game to allow an individual to actually join a team and earn a living based on your performance

[allpro-anticipation]

plus the company that sponsors a team gains exposure within the players and headlines giving them more publicity not only throughout the gaming world but throughtout publicity just like they do when they sponsor small time leagues, or put their logos on games because they know it will make a difference

[Bowdown]

Pretty good Photoshop, do you have a link to show where you got your pic from?

[HennessyRob]

I can't wait to play you guys online with my Saints

[FakedShinobi`]

Excellent points X.

I honestly don't understand it myself. I mean, you and I have not always agreed on everything, but I didn't attack you because you disagreed, nor did you attack me. We're Adults, so we communicate like Adults should. But some of these other guys around here go into Armageddon mode, exploding with insults in their very first posts, lol. Who are these guys?

X, you know what my thoughts were about returning here... I was only coming back because of the football game, and at the time I was telling you about things it didn't look like a game was ever coming. Now that we know there is one, I am happy to be back in support of it, but this influx of guys taking potshots is just reminding why I left in the first place and it's beginning to not be fun again. If I didn't ignore list these guys, I'd have no choice but to leave. Things would be unbearable.


I made the list.. and what *****es!!!

[fatman]

i know faked!!! ...you're on the ignor list too, yet he quoted you. That means just to read your post he took you off the ignored list and then proceeded to quote you followed by a p.u.ssy insult...then he probably ingored you again...at least until you post again hahahhaah. what a complete moron.

[GoodSense]

Grow up. You're boasting about having people on your ignore list on a message board, to the extent that you have people listed in your sig. It really doesn't get any more dopey and pathetic than that. Go outside.

I agree 100%.

[GoodSense]

I really hope NFL2k is joking. I don't want to be tossed into his bottomless pit. lol, what will I ever do to get out ? At least GoodSense has a brain. So maybe he and I will be able to collaborate and find a way out of this pit . . .

:lol: What tickles me is he claims we keep jawing even though he can't see it.
He saw something, because soon after I posted he put in his signature for me to stop whining. After I caught him on it with my signature message he has since taken it out. :lol:

[GoodSense]

ooooh. can i make that special list too? ignore me please!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:
All you have to do is offer and opinion that is opposite of his and you are in.
After a while he is going to have to abbreviate because of too many characters in his signature.
:lol:

[FakedShinobi`]

:lol:
All you have to do is offer and opinion that is opposite of his and you are in.
After a while he is going to have to abbreviate because of too many characters in his signature.
:lol:


maybe he will give us a cool nickname!??!?!?!?!



Everyone tell nfl2k his opinion is wrong and give a detail and reasonable explaintion on why its wrong and only he will get offended and not a mature person...

[GoodSense]

Bomerball and all. Now you tell me who tried to stop?
This dude is a liar beyond compare. :lol:


The adage is a bad one. It tries to remove human behavior from communication, which can't be done. The same thing could be attempted for arguing over the phone, or in a letter, etc. it doesn't hold any weight.

As long as Human beings are dealing, there will be disagreements. As long as there are disagreements, there'll be arguments. It doesn't matter what medium you use. Of course, I've tried to end the arguments by ignoring them, but I can't stop them from continuing.




I'm certainly not whining. I handled the situation. I've contributed a lot here, these children who pop up out of nowhere, who know nothing about anything, running their mouths... they've contributed nothing here, and they've probably contributed nothing anywhere in their entire lives. That's probably the reason they come here to vent their frustrations.



It is hard to carry on a conversation with someone not willing to listen and only twist your words. So as of now I'm done.


GoodSense, now you're acting like a baby.

Nobody twisted your words. How could I? I used your own quotes verbatim, lol.

You've made statements that you clearly have not been able to back up. Point the finger at yourself for it. I don't speak for you, YOU speak for you.


SEE!?
I tried to stop but he insisted on his rampage. THEN he puts me on his ignore list as if that is suppose to define the end of the world for me. :lol:

If you read further in the thread you will see he went too far.
I tried to respect the boards rules by not offering responses on his level, but that didn't help. It appeared to only boost his ego.

[GoodSense]

Lets just talk about the game in here.................

One idea i though would be great for the game, what the game is based around internet play and instead of 11 man teams the teams consist of of 22 players a team. So each individual has a specific duty just like if they were actually on a team. So for instance a player that plays safety only is capable of watching the game while the offense was on the field. So when we join a team instead of made up players you put your own information on the players profile and jersey. So it puts you more into the game. I was also thinking that a team could also consist of those individuals that never really got into the aspect of playing football but more into the strategy concept of playing. Eventually maybe 2k can establish a league where there is a grand prize for the winner, and possibly find comglomerates, like reebok, Walmart, Target and so forth that are willing to sponser a team make the decisions for coaching and signing players based on how well they perform. And if you are a player that can really make a difference like a quarterback that has 20 TD's and 2 INT's when signed to a companies team you can earn money for consistancy or just simply because you are a top prospect.

Please share ideas..........


Nice idea, but how many people do you think would be willing to play the positions that don't get the highlights? OL

I mean what you are saying I think is do able, and would definitely put an end to the DL Glitch and QB Spy stuff because everyone is manually controlled right?
If Ghost can put together a game that allows for multiple players then why not sports?

The one thing they would have to account for is that weak link that drops out at a position.
The AI would have to takeover for that player until they reconnect.

Oh... I would still like more than 22 players, because injury is part of the game.
It would just mean you would have to take on the role of the replacement.


Hopefully 2k is reading this suggestion.

[GoodSense]

I made the list.. and what *****es!!!


Yup! Welcome to the club.
Fake... this guy said people attack people in their 1st post.
He forgets so easily how he attacked a guy for a sarcastic comment he made about Madden that he thought was a comment in favor of Madden.

So instead of apologizing, because he communicates like an adult supposely, he makes it seem like they aren't clear.

But.... it was okay for him to be sarcastic to me in another thread.
Once he realizes he is not the core of the world and 2K football series the better off he will be.

[GoodSense]

i know faked!!! ...you're on the ignor list too, yet he quoted you. That means just to read your post he took you off the ignored list and then proceeded to quote you followed by a p.u.ssy insult...then he probably ingored you again...at least until you post again hahahhaah. what a complete moron.


He did the same with me.
He added a comment about whining, which is not gone after I posted something, but I was on his ignore list so how did he conclude that?

He puts us on an ignore list only to still read our post. :rotfl:

[GoodSense]

maybe he will give us a cool nickname!??!?!?!?!



Everyone tell nfl2k his opinion is wrong and give a detail and reasonable explaintion on why its wrong and only he will get offended and not a mature person...


We'll know about the cool nicknames because they will appear in his signature even though he is suppose to be ignoring us. but he is running out of space

And it was my opinion vs his that started it all.
He didn't have to respond at all because it was an open comment about the cover of the game.

[convince]

NFL is a idiot. Boo hoo, you hurt me so I'm putting you on my ignore list. What a joke.

[allpro-anticipation]

It could also be set up so that in order to join a league you would have to have atlest two seasons under your belt before you can even attempt to join a league. That way the teams doing the "signing" could make a decision based on legitimate statistics. Also there could be a monitor on many times your you lost a connection during a game just as they did in the original fight night. So it could also be based on your past experiences not only with play but ability to finish a game, such as in real life when it comes to players consistancy via. illness, deaht in the family, injury so forth. So if a player is real good, 120 tackles 3 picks 5 sacks etc but he/ she are alsways getting disconnected via their internet or whatever they would fall as a prospect.

This is a more far fetched idea but,
in regards to what would happen if a player is cut off during an important game then if it ever was a situation where companies sponsored teams then back ups could be signed and must attend each and every game, until the position was filled correctly, until there are no longer any more back ups then the computer fills in. There fore even if all you are is a back up then you must attend each game. Although I really doubt that anyone would consistantly attend games to just watch even if they were getting paid.

Also it is evident and has been seen by prior posts taht there are actually people that think playing positions such as OL and so forth are fucn, and are willing to play these postitions even if it means that is al they would play.

However I do believe in my original idea stated earlier in the forum, it is very possible for 2k to promote this game in such a way that teams represent a company and YOU are the player in the game that is signed to whatever position desired. In retrospect companies are always looking for ways to advertise in games, ie Gatoraide, Toyota, Reebok, Mororola. And this could be the first game to implement a NCAA (Basketball) type of playoffs between comp[anies within a video game. However 2k would definitaly have to push hard why there game is the best and why it would benefit these companies not only to sponsor a team but to have the best players possible and WIN.

[SIMSAHOY]

Pretty good Photoshop, do you have a link to show where you got your pic from?

It is true you have to have a subscription with game informer to see it. I have one and its on the website.

[lions67]

the concept of 11 v 11 online has already been discussed. but with pro evelution soccer ( winning eleven in north america). the next game out will have 11 v 11 online.
maybe 2k should wait and see how konami does with it first. i think in theory, its great, but in reality, i dont think it will work out very good, for the obvious reasons.

[allpro-anticipation]

the concept of 11 v 11 online has already been discussed. but with pro evelution soccer ( winning eleven in north america). the next game out will have 11 v 11 online.
maybe 2k should wait and see how konami does with it first. i think in theory, its great, but in reality, i dont think it will work out very good, for the obvious reasons.


No disrespect, but please enlighten me of the obvious reasons why it would not work. As well refer back to my original post on page 6 I am refferring to an idea with (22 v 22) not (11 v 11)

[MorningGlory]

^^^ Well I do believe this is a great idea. I saw this idea a while ago on the Gamespot forum and read people's opinions. Someone said that this would be like a sports game's "Halo Clan" but instead of a clan, it would be a team. And he had the idea of even someone being the Coach (clan leader) and just calling the plays. I think it's cool. But tons of people wouldn't want to be offensive lineman obviously. And you'd have a big issue with people quitting. Some people would want to quit just to quit. And other times you'd have people quitting if your team was getting blown out or whatever. I think it would be hard to get 22 people, which really means 44 people. It would be easier to just have 11 people and have each person play offense and defense. Like someone plays WR on offense and DB on defense. Or O-lineman play D-lineman as well, that way they get to do something and feel like they are contributing. The less people, the easier to pull off. But this idea presents alot of ups and downs. I think some of the criticisms I named were some of the 'obvious' reasons lions was talking about.

[lions67]

^ those are the obvouis reasons. i like the idea, i do, but 22 v 22 will never happen.
11 v 11 is also going to be very difficult. in the soccer game, you ten guys plus the keeper.in that game it would be easier i think to play the 11 v 11 as the game is always moving. in football, it will be hard to get a guy who's only job is to snap the ball and block, you know what i mean?.....in soccer, you will have the same thing when it comes to the goalie....who wants to just sit there all game long?...
if it happens, i will play it no doubt, dont get me wrong, but i just dont think it will work very well right now.

[allpro-anticipation]

Understood, allow me to demonstrate, Within Madden, which although most of us hate the game we are still very conscience of what features due in part to the games huge success. Now although 2k currently has no where near the same capacity of fan base, the process of finding individuals that really take just football serious regardless of the videgame aspect would not be difficult. For instance, with Madden the game sold some 300 Million copies or so and reguraly in discussion with how the game plays i constantluy hear individuals talking about the lead blocking control. Although, you can switch back to the running back after making a big block regardless if that person does or not is not the case. Alot of individuals just simply like the fun factor of laying some one on there back whether it is one time or many. Granted their will be some who become bored with the position however in that case yes there can be intense AI factored into the situation if that individual decides no longer to show for games. But back to my earlier point there are alot of individuals that just like blocking, because it is something they have done before on a team or they know how important the position is. Example; Blocking a DL or LB is alot like a matchup in FIght Night it is all back and forth.

To intensify the experience it could be taken a step further where coach of what ever sponsored team you play for sends you a playbook at the beginning of the week via email or 2k user page. Now obviously there is alot that could go on with that as well, people not practicing, knowing their role, but as long as you get the jest of what to do, during a game the play should be visible to everyone on Offense or Defense. So more is put into the responsibility and experience one must have to play the position. And if your team has players that cant block well than maybe your team switches to a zone block, meaning your responibilities change almost every play. JUST A COUPLE IDEAS SO THOSE OF US WHO DONT LIKE TO PLAY OL UNDERSTAND THAT TO SOME IT IS OR COULD BE ENTERTAINING.

As well I think the reason we all play this game is for the realism. And there are som many of us that would love to get back on the field (pee wee, H.S., College etc) I think just the aspect of being a part of a team again and feeling closer to what used to be could alone make some one step back into a position they are used to, OL. And like I said if it could be organized and sponsored by Big Companies that also could be a way for some one to feel committed, you dont play? We dont pay.

Feedback

[GoodSense]

Understood, allow me to demonstrate, Within Madden, which although most of us hate the game we are still very conscience of what features due in part to the games huge success. Now although 2k currently has no where near the same capacity of fan base, the process of finding individuals that really take just football serious regardless of the videgame aspect would not be difficult. For instance, with Madden the game sold some 300 Million copies or so and reguraly in discussion with how the game plays i constantluy hear individuals talking about the lead blocking control. Although, you can switch back to the running back after making a big block regardless if that person does or not is not the case. Alot of individuals just simply like the fun factor of laying some one on there back whether it is one time or many. Granted their will be some who become bored with the position however in that case yes there can be intense AI factored into the situation if that individual decides no longer to show for games. But back to my earlier point there are alot of individuals that just like blocking, because it is something they have done before on a team or they know how important the position is. Example; Blocking a DL or LB is alot like a matchup in FIght Night it is all back and forth.

To intensify the experience it could be taken a step further where coach of what ever sponsored team you play for sends you a playbook at the beginning of the week via email or 2k user page. Now obviously there is alot that could go on with that as well, people not practicing, knowing their role, but as long as you get the jest of what to do, during a game the play should be visible to everyone on Offense or Defense. So more is put into the responsibility and experience one must have to play the position. And if your team has players that cant block well than maybe your team switches to a zone block, meaning your responibilities change almost every play. JUST A COUPLE IDEAS SO THOSE OF US WHO DONT LIKE TO PLAY OL UNDERSTAND THAT TO SOME IT IS OR COULD BE ENTERTAINING.

As well I think the reason we all play this game is for the realism. And there are som many of us that would love to get back on the field (pee wee, H.S., College etc) I think just the aspect of being a part of a team again and feeling closer to what used to be could alone make some one step back into a position they are used to, OL. And like I said if it could be organized and sponsored by Big Companies that also could be a way for some one to feel committed, you dont play? We dont pay.

Feedback

I think we all like the idea if it can be pulled off, but playing OL in real life versus on a video came might... might... be hard to maintain. As someone said earlier, let that QB throw 2 or 3 picks and your OL along with a bunch of other people might drop on you.

OL is extremely important which we all know.
But most players look for that highlight position and OL is rare.
Now some will find it interesting to keep that Pro Bowl Defensive Linemen contained.

Maybe with it being all manual it would make it more of a sell.

It sounds good. Really. The question is how many others would buy into it.
A good ad campaign might do the trick, but there still is the other issue.
One on One... people drop like crazy or want to call it quits because they are losing or see the game as a loss. They won't take it to the final whistle.

Now... imagine this in an Eleve on Eleven game.
How they would handle that would be the key.

[NFL2K]

NFL is a idiot. Boo hoo, you hurt me so I'm putting you on my ignore list. What a joke.

Wow! ANOTHER prepubescent, sexually confused, Proactiv user steps in; obviously still catching feelings because I publicly humiliated him after he ran his mouth off. Yes, I devestated you, but it's not the end of the world.

And remember, you are somebody and this year you WILL get asked to the school dance... and I promise, he'll be the boy of your dreams :thumbsup:

Convince, ignore listed. Now run along and play.

P.S. Guys, keep on dumbazz'in and I'll keep on ignore list'in.

[lions67]

well now that i have given it some more thought, maybe it could work. but for it to work and to keep the gamer "into" the game, i think the presentation would have to be different for all the positions. such as, if your an OL man, your field of vision would be almost like a headcam if you know what i mean. the option to change your view should also be included as well so the gamer doesnt tire of that view as well.
interesting, who knows?

[bomerball]

i find it funny how humans can find a way to hate and fight in the midst of their own kind.

even though we all share a love for this game, we can all find a way to **** each other off... that is beyond me, but as NFL said; as long as it is human, it will bare conflict. I just find it funny...

[MorningGlory]

I know what yall are saying about no one wanting to play OL. But that's why i said my idea. Double-up positions. Have it to where only 11 people are on the team. And have them play offense and defense. That way, people who play OL will play DL and have a reason to stay. Because you can get sacks or rush the QB, etc. Another example would be like a WR plays CB. And the QB i guess would be the safety. This way you wouldn't need 22 people to play. You'd only need 11 people playing offense and defense. And people who are OL would be more likely to stick around for the defensive side of it. I don't know if this makes sense to people.

[thePLAGUE]

holy crap...u people are dumber than the Madden fans...I dont believe i wasted my energy reading this whole thread about an "ignore list"...Fawk, am angry...stupid morons!!!

[NFL2K]

i find it funny how humans can find a way to hate and fight in the midst of their own kind.

even though we all share a love for this game, we can all find a way to **** each other off... that is beyond me, but as NFL said; as long as it is human, it will bare conflict. I just find it funny...

Notice how I'm just chill'in here and guys keep popping up out of nowhere to insult me. Of course, I'm sure people are somehow finding a way to blame me for it...

Yeah guys, it's really my fault that someone else decides to run their mouth... I mean, after all, I do have control over what other people say :rolleyes:

Now watch Bomber, someone else will pop up soon. The people crying about the ignore list are the very same people who I've smashed at various times on this board. They're coming back to get a shot in because they're still fuming from being rocked, lol. What they don't realize is if they could act maturely, 1. I wouldn't have had to smash them in the first place and 2. They wouldn't be on the list.

Guys, if you're on the list it's YOUR fault, not mine.

[Drunknfury xbgl]

Notice how I'm just chill'in here and guys keep popping up out of nowhere to insult me. Of course, I'm sure people are somehow finding a way to blame me for it...

Yeah guys, it's really my fault that someone else decides to run their mouth... I mean, after all, I do have control over what other people say :rolleyes:

Now watch Bomber, someone else will pop up soon. The people crying about the ignore list are the very same people who I've smashed at various times on this board. They're coming back to get a shot in because they're still fuming from being rocked, lol. What they don't realize is if they could act maturely, 1. I wouldn't have had to smash them in the first place and 2. They wouldn't be on the list.

Guys, if you're on the list it's YOUR fault, not mine.


I have to agree. You definately dont seem like an azz. You actually have intelligent posts, and good arguments.

Oh well, lets talk more about APF being in gameInformer :lol:

[GoodSense]

I know what yall are saying about no one wanting to play OL. But that's why i said my idea. Double-up positions. Have it to where only 11 people are on the team. And have them play offense and defense. That way, people who play OL will play DL and have a reason to stay. Because you can get sacks or rush the QB, etc. Another example would be like a WR plays CB. And the QB i guess would be the safety. This way you wouldn't need 22 people to play. You'd only need 11 people playing offense and defense. And people who are OL would be more likely to stick around for the defensive side of it. I don't know if this makes sense to people.

Now that might work better. Playing on both sides of the field could maintain interest in playing that OL position.

Maybe if they offer the ability to swap who they can control as well.

[fatman]

regarding 11 vs. 11 gameplay, yeah i think it would work if you have rotating positions. This could be done one of two ways in my opinion - shuffle every play or better, every drive. Everyone can rank every position on a scale so that they'd get to play positions that they like in general, but not hog them either, and sometimes be forced to play positions that aren't their favorite.

This would prevent people ditching teams all the time because they don't get to try their favorite positions. Also, this is a GAME...so no one really Deserves to play quarterback all the time, or Way more that someone else.

I wouldn't mind in a game that was online, and all-human playing QB once or twice, WR once or twice, RB same thing and TE same thing, and something similar on Defence.

[GoodSense]

Notice how I'm just chill'in here and guys keep popping up out of nowhere to insult me. Of course, I'm sure people are somehow finding a way to blame me for it...

Yeah guys, it's really my fault that someone else decides to run their mouth... I mean, after all, I do have control over what other people say :rolleyes:

Now watch Bomber, someone else will pop up soon. The people crying about the ignore list are the very same people who I've smashed at various times on this board. They're coming back to get a shot in because they're still fuming from being rocked, lol. What they don't realize is if they could act maturely, 1. I wouldn't have had to smash them in the first place and 2. They wouldn't be on the list.

Guys, if you're on the list it's YOUR fault, not mine.


:rotfl: Smashed? Crying? Rocked?

Boy who are you kidding?

Why do you keep responding people post if they are on your ignore list? :rotfl:
What is the point? No need to attack you, because you are doing a really good job of making a fool out of yourself on your own.

I could careless if I'm on your ignore list.
It is just too funny becasue ignore list are suppose to be used so you are not uh.... bothered or uh... aware of what others are saying to you.
Obviously this isn't the case.

So you keep filling out names on your list. I'm sure there are many others who would love to be on there.
Oh... space might be getting limited so you might want to make room for them in your siggy. :lol:

As far as blaming you... you like facts right?
Tiki Barber thread shows you as the liar you are.
You went off because of my comment about Joe.
I'm sure many others probably don't agree either, but they didn't go off on it like you did.
What are you his Monica Lewinsky or something?¿ :rotfl:


:rotfl: Smashed? Crying? Rocked?

[allpro-anticipation]

That is exactly my point,
We are all thinking of this online opportunity in terms of a game.

But, what if it could become more than a game,
What if you actually belonged to a Sponsored team with a payroll. This is the direction gaming is heading in. Making careers out of gaming, it has already begun with shooting games and madden and so forth. But has never been done on a TEAM SPORT LEVEL.

Picture This;
Say you (your name here) and your favorite position to play is (position here), now with 11v11 not only do you play your favorite position but you also must contribute on the other side of the ball as well regardless if you prefer or not. NOW say you belong to a 22+ team (COACH or whatever) and you have ONE responsibility just like being part of a real team (minus the LONG PRACTICES and YOU DONT HAVE TO LEAVE HOME). Once again my whole idea is based on a team consisting of Offense and Defense where you are in control of that one position. I GAURENTEE there are plenty of former football players and non former football players to fill up 100+ teams. Also Imagine having one of the biggest online SPORTS tourmants to ever be held ONLINE. COMPLETE once again with a team SPONSOR that can easily be influenced by 2k. So your name would be on the jersey of your player along with your desired number and looks however you would dress your player, bio etc. And you belong to A BLUE AND WHITE TEAM with the SEARS logo on the side of the helmet. NOT only that but you are one of the top players in the league art your position and are PAID to take your team to the CHAMPIONSHIP GAME that not only GIVES the company at the least NATIONWIDE GAMING ADVERTISEMENT but also PUTS 2k SPORTS BACK WHERE IT LEFT OFF, WITH THE MOST INOVATIVE FEATURES EVER INTRODUCED INTO GAMING.

Imma gonna be the first to say it, I CANT STAND OFFENSE. I love to play defense, not only that I love to play Safety. Reason being, for me anyway, I played Safety in H.S. Now you can think I am a pathetic wanna be football player reliving his football days. HOWEVER for me its just playing a position I know how to play precisely, and when I do play 2k5 that is the only position I start the play off with because I know what responsibilites I have in certain situations even if the computer doesnt. Now I'm not here to brag about what I know, just inform those that dont see the WHOLE PICTURE that this could be a reality, not just for the future but it could be a reality TODAY.All it takes is 2k understanding the reality of this and making steps to implement this into the game.

IN MY OPINION this would be the best way to present the game without having the NFL license. IF you belonged to a team that wasnt necessarily a made up team in the sense that it had real football players (YOU) and even had real companies sponsoring the team for their own purposes. Just like those recreation teams at the YMCA, except you dont have to go out or drive to a game. If this happened 2 impotant issues would occur

1. FOOTBALL GAMES WOULD NEVER BE THE SAME
2. 2K would never again need the NFL logo.
3. Not to forget to mention if something like this did happen (which is possible) you could be making a living off playing football, just not as much or in the same way the pros do.

[fatman]

I think the idea is fine, but...

what is the incentive for the sponsors to pay people??
why would anyone watch as a spectator?

[lions67]

so say Tim Horton's ( coffee franchise in canada) would be a sponsor, would the game recognize canadian rules?.......im feeling what your saying now all pro.
i like it. even if canadian rules cant be in the game. very cool idea.

[allpro-anticipation]

I think we all like the idea if it can be pulled off, but playing OL in real life versus on a video came might... might... be hard to maintain. As someone said earlier, let that QB throw 2 or 3 picks and your OL along with a bunch of other people might drop on you.

OL is extremely important which we all know.
But most players look for that highlight position and OL is rare.
Now some will find it interesting to keep that Pro Bowl Defensive Linemen contained.

Maybe with it being all manual it would make it more of a sell.

It sounds good. Really. The question is how many others would buy into it.
A good ad campaign might do the trick, but there still is the other issue.
One on One... people drop like crazy or want to call it quits because they are losing or see the game as a loss. They won't take it to the final whistle.

Now... imagine this in an Eleve on Eleven game.
How they would handle that would be the key.




You make a great point, If this game could be sold as more than a game, MORE so as a VIRTUAL REALITY SIMULATION I really feel this outreach of this game would exted way beyond what 2k could have ever imagined. Because you see 2k is the realest game out there, but it is what it is a game. That is how it is sold. Now if it continues it's game preface but also was advertised as more than just a game of friendly football. Then this game could be seen as an opportunity for others to not only play the realest game out there but to some realive their football days or someone who might want to play football in the future (middleschool student, etc.) and opportunity to become educated on the game. Already the circumference of the players ages has double from taht aspect alone. By that being so, the online gaming tournament that i am referring to could be advertised as a supply and demand. The team demands good players, WE supply the players. Now I stated before that in order to join the league you would have to have something like 2 online seasons uder your belt, Kind of like how the Olympics have trials to see who get to compete. Within those tow seasons are your complete stats, tackles, completions, touchdowns, broken tackles and so forth, EVEN including a counter or percentage displayed of how many times you didnt finish a game which also plays into the leagues decision making of signing you to their team. It could even be based on your ranking on 2k football page. I feel if you really know a position OL DL CB QB whatever and knowing that you could earn a living playing that position could really contribute into the feeling of commitment. Then when you finish your two seasons or whateer you submit your stats to the teams coach or whoever along with your desired position. So if your USER STATS say you threw 100 passes and you the USER caught 95 of them (NOT THE COMPUTER) then maybe you are a good fit for the team's wide reciever.

[allpro-anticipation]

I think the idea is fine, but...

what is the incentive for the sponsors to pay people??
why would anyone watch as a spectator?


The incitive is what it has always been. The same reason GATORAIDE, MOTOROLA, ADIDAS are all advertising in games currently. Becasue not only is the internet revolutionizeng how we do things, purchases, doing away with CD's and so forth. But videogames has a similar effect.

1. IT IS THE FASTES GROWING INDUSTRY WORLD WIDE
2. MORE PEOPLE PLAY VIDOGAMES THAN PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY PLAY SPORTS. BOTH GROWN AND OLD.
3. MUSIC ADVERTISEMENT'S BIGGEST ASSET IS GETTING THEIR MUSIC ON GAMES LIKE MADDEN, NFL 2k5, MLB 2k7 ETC.
THE simple fact alone that one of the biggest industries currently (MUSIC/ ENTERTAINMETN) sees vidoegames for what they are. THE FUTURE.

NOT ONLY DO these companies gain country wide or wordwide advertisement but 2k can aslo hold a GRAND CHAMPIONSHIP worh something like 100,000 for the winnig company. Not only that think of what kind of recognition TARGET gets as far as publicity for having the winning team with best players 2 seasons in a row. If this were to become a reality not nly would would with this revolutionize the FOOTBALL industry but 2k WOULD OUT SEEL MADDEN. OR ATLEAST MATCH IT'S NUMBERS

[allpro-anticipation]

so say Tim Horton's ( coffee franchise in canada) would be a sponsor, would the game recognize canadian rules?.......im feeling what your saying now all pro.
i like it. even if canadian rules cant be in the game. very cool idea.


The only way some thing like this could work is the game would have to be based off of a single penalty system, and then the Tournament can become international. ALSO imagine some one playing team Tim Horton's Coffe Shop, FROM MONTREAL CANADA, and then taking a vacation and ending u pin canada. Passing by Tim Hortons and recognizing the name, just knowing the name alone improves impulse spending by 50+%.

[lions67]

absolutly!...this really is a great idea. cant see it happening in this version of the game, but with system updates now, who knows?....but for 2k9, i sure hope 2kspports is reading this....wicked idea!

[allpro-anticipation]

EVERYONE Please read the previous posts and give your input on the discussion we are having.

[Drunknfury xbgl]

You make a great point, If this game could be sold as more than a game, MORE so as a VIRTUAL REALITY SIMULATION I really feel this outreach of this game would exted way beyond what 2k could have ever imagined. Because you see 2k is the realest game out there, but it is what it is a game. That is how it is sold. Now if it continues it's game preface but also was advertised as more than just a game of friendly football. Then this game could be seen as an opportunity for others to not only play the realest game out there but to some realive their football days or someone who might want to play football in the future (middleschool student, etc.) and opportunity to become educated on the game. Already the circumference of the players ages has double from taht aspect alone. By that being so, the online gaming tournament that i am referring to could be advertised as a supply and demand. The team demands good players, WE supply the players. Now I stated before that in order to join the league you would have to have something like 2 online seasons uder your belt, Kind of like how the Olympics have trials to see who get to compete. Within those tow seasons are your complete stats, tackles, completions, touchdowns, broken tackles and so forth, EVEN including a counter or percentage displayed of how many times you didnt finish a game which also plays into the leagues decision making of signing you to their team. It could even be based on your ranking on 2k football page. I feel if you really know a position OL DL CB QB whatever and knowing that you could earn a living playing that position could really contribute into the feeling of commitment. Then when you finish your two seasons or whateer you submit your stats to the teams coach or whoever along with your desired position. So if your USER STATS say you threw 100 passes and you the USER caught 95 of them (NOT THE COMPUTER) then maybe you are a good fit for the team's wide reciever.

I agree with both of you guys on this to a certain extent. Heres my argument.

How will you position a camera for a receiver, for exa.? If im a reciever on the classic view, then you wont be able to see how to run the route. If you have 11 men on one team, you know how hard its going to be to organize 10 other guys, to block, and run at the same pace? It will be too hard.

If your going to compare this to another multiple player game, compare it to RS, or Ghost Recon. If people listne, you can really use some strategy. If people DO NOT listen, and act like kids, you might as well forget it.

If someone drops, they also need to look at letting people join, in game, like GR. Obviously, not if you are making it private.

Heres the bottom line. There is alot they could do with it, but id be happy just to be able to watch other peoples games If you have a league or something, and 2 guys are playing for the championship, how coool would it be to view the game from a broadcast POV?

[lions67]

for the camera argument. i think the only it will work is if the camera is specific to that position. but able to zoom out as well if you wished.

[Drunknfury xbgl]

for the camera argument. i think the only it will work is if the camera is specific to that position. but able to zoom out as well if you wished.

Thats the thing, is 2k going to want to make a camera for like 20 positions?

[allpro-anticipation]

I agree with both of you guys on this to a certain extent. Heres my argument.

How will you position a camera for a receiver, for exa.? If im a reciever on the classic view, then you wont be able to see how to run the route. If you have 11 men on one team, you know how hard its going to be to organize 10 other guys, to block, and run at the same pace? It will be too hard.

If your going to compare this to another multiple player game, compare it to RS, or Ghost Recon. If people listne, you can really use some strategy. If people DO NOT listen, and act like kids, you might as well forget it.

If someone drops, they also need to look at letting people join, in game, like GR. Obviously, not if you are making it private.

Heres the bottom line. There is alot they could do with it, but id be happy just to be able to watch other peoples games If you have a league or something, and 2 guys are playing for the championship, how coool would it be to view the game from a broadcast POV?


And that is definatly a very important aspect, the view. Because it is very easy to reflect back at how horrible the MADDEN SUPERTAR view is, but we must also remember how on point the 2k FIRST PERSON VIEW WORKED to an extent. Now obviously it would need some tweeking primarily no matter where you are at when the ball is released the camera automatically directs itself to a position where both you and the ball are in view/ or it could go directly to a split screen where if you are a CB you decide if you are gonig to play the ball or the reciever. GIVES OPTION. IT is definatly not hard to get all others follow their responsibilites primarily because instead of a playbook being shown the scrren can show as it does when you are at the line and hold the R2 button or Right Trigger, however it would be for each position INCLUDING the OL or DL and that could happen while the play is being chose or even after the play is chose there could be a 5 second delay before you break the huddle that shows on your screen only what your responsibility is. Of course players are going to make mistakes that is a fact and even if its a situation where one player is always giving up the long ball or a QB is constantly throwing INT's. He can then be pulled from the game by a coach or whoever. You see if they take this game beyond the game aspect and aproach it with an attitude where they can revolutionize the Sports gaming industry then you can literally have a team that is made up of 22+ players including back ups. However all the players on the team are great players maybe some play individual tournaments on their own time. Just like how people do when playing in a 3 on 3 basketball tournament, they are not completely dedicated to that tournament they have other stuff they do as well. But back to my earlier point it could be set up where even the backups get paid something like $200 week when they first start off and as they progress or become starters for the team you make more $.

I know right now that sounds far fetched but it is very possible, if you look at the top gamers when it comes to those LAN tournaments these boys and men are making near 200,000 a tournament so it is very possible for something like this to work.

feedback.........

[Drunknfury xbgl]

And that is definatly a very important aspect, the view. Because it is very easy to reflect back at how horrible the MADDEN SUPERTAR view is, but we must also remember how on point the 2k FIRST PERSON VIEW WORKED to an extent. Now obviously it would need some tweeking primarily no matter where you are at when the ball is released the camera automatically directs itself to a position where both you and the ball are in view/ or it could go directly to a split screen where if you are a CB you decide if you are gonig to play the ball or the reciever. GIVES OPTION. IT is definatly not hard to get all others follow their responsibilites primarily because instead of a playbook being shown the scrren can show as it does when you are at the line and hold the R2 button or Right Trigger, however it would be for each position INCLUDING the OL or DL and that could happen while the play is being chose or even after the play is chose there could be a 5 second delay before you break the huddle that shows on your screen only what your responsibility is. Of course players are going to make mistakes that is a fact and even if its a situation where one player is always giving up the long ball or a QB is constantly throwing INT's. He can then be pulled from the game by a coach or whoever. You see if they take this game beyond the game aspect and aproach it with an attitude where they can revolutionize the Sports gaming industry then you can literally have a team that is made up of 22+ players including back ups. However all the players on the team are great players maybe some play individual tournaments on their own time. Just like how people do when playing in a 3 on 3 basketball tournament, they are not completely dedicated to that tournament they have other stuff they do as well. But back to my earlier point it could be set up where even the backups get paid something like $200 week when they first start off and as they progress or become starters for the team you make more $.

I know right now that sounds far fetched but it is very possible, if you look at the top gamers when it comes to those LAN tournaments these boys and men are making near 200,000 a tournament so it is very possible for something like this to work.

feedback.........

Something like this could work, but i guess football would be harder than any other sport. If 2k wanted to try this, try it with Baseball, or basketball first. Baseball being the easiest, IMO. Then maybe making it to bball, to see how 5 on 5 works. Then if you can master that, and get that down, then try football. For them to do this now, wouldnt work. Of course thats my opinion

[lions67]

well like i said, pro evolution soccer is doing 11 v 11 online with the next game out.
we shall see how it goes.

[allpro-anticipation]

Come join us in WAY FOR ALL PRO TO BECOME BETTER THAN MADDEN

[ecyoral]

well that's certainly great to see. 'exclusive' ...i wonder if it really means that or only for magazines? who knows.
why doesn't this forum for the game on the games's website give us the info here? on the website??

[Disasterpiece]

But somehow your post was supposed to be a maturity barometer? The very fact that you signed up and wasted the time to post an insult on someone you've had no history with shows that you lack maturity (and intelligence).

The board has an ignore function. I have to use it because people around here, like yourself, lack the basic ability to be civil. I post in my sig who I've listed for two reasons:

1. So that maybe they'll stop running their mouths and realize that I can't see what they're writing anymore, which if they do stop it will be good for the community.

2. Maybe they'll get angry, go too far, and get banned.

#2 is big because quite frankly the people on the list have contributed nothing since they've signed up, have only caused trouble, and really don't belong here anyway. Them being banned will only help the community.

And, yes I will add you to the list now since you fall into the categories described. Don't like it? Neither do I. If you guys would quit acting like dumbazzez I wouldn't have to keep shutting you out. How do you not understand something so simple?


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[xrams]

Grow up. You're boasting about having people on your ignore list on a message board, to the extent that you have people listed in your sig. It really doesn't get any more dopey and pathetic than that. Go outside.
I would consider a 3count poster... calling anyone out dopey and pathetic... you've contributed nothing to these boards but BULL...!!! come back when you have something to add... instead of piling on...:thumbsdow

[Disasterpiece]

I would consider a 3count poster... calling anyone out dopey and pathetic... you've contributed nothing to these boards but BULL...!!! come back when you have something to add... instead of piling on...:thumbsdow


Actually that's false. I posted here back in the 2k5 days, however I forgot my user name. Regardless, postcount has little to do with pointing out somebody is being dopey and pathetic. A small child could tell that somebody who brags about putting people on ignore, and then putting it in his sig is dopey and pathetic.

[xrams]

Actually that's false. I posted here back in the 2k5 days, however I forgot my user name. Regardless, postcount has little to do with pointing out somebody is being dopey and pathetic. A small child could tell that somebody who brags about putting people on ignore, and then putting it in his sig is dopey and pathetic.
just by reading your 3 post proves you have nothing to say.... I don't care who your were...!?!?! as (disaster) your adding nothing...!!!!:thumbsdow

so your previous ID is superfluous to what you've written...

[Disasterpiece]

just by reading your 3 post proves you have nothing to say

And just by reading your two post towards me proves your typing hurts my eyes. Perhaps......if??????!!!! I posted.....like this!?!?!? You would think I had more to say!???!??1!

[xrams]

And just by reading your two post towards me proves your typing hurts my eyes. Perhaps......if??????!!!! I posted.....like this!?!?!? You would think I had more to say!???!??1!

just as I thought... you don't have nothing to say....:thumbsdow

[Disasterpiece]

just as I thought... you don't have nothing to say....:thumbsdow

Oh that's right!!!???!!?...I forgot to add a stupid smilie....:thumbsdow

[xrams]

Oh that's right!!!???!!?...I forgot to add a stupid smilie....:thumbsdow it took you 10min to come up with this reply...!?!?!?:rolleyes:

[Disasterpiece]

it took you 10min to come up with this reply...!?!?!?:rolleyes:

No!!???!!!!!.....I'm actually reading through things.....to see what's been posted!!!11??1?..I'm also reading a couple of other forums....at the same time!!???!1?....:rolleyes: :thumbsdow :thumbsup: :dance: :thumbsdow

[xrams]

No!!???!!!!!.....I'm actually reading through things.....to see what's been posted!!!11??1?..I'm also reading a couple of other forums....at the same time!!???!1?....:rolleyes: :thumbsdow :thumbsup: :dance: :thumbsdow
then stay on the other sites.... don't come around here with one liners and jpegs.. trying to fit in without a valid contribution...!!! thanks... we here at 2k don't need n00b input... :bark:establish yourself before you flame...!!!!;)

[Disasterpiece]

then stay on the other sites.... don't come around here with one liners and jpegs.. trying to fit in without a valid contribution...!!! thanks... we here at 2k don't need n00b input... :bark:establish yourself before you flame...!!!!;)


Nah....I'll just stay and mock you instead...!!!???!!??....don't need to be established.....!!!! to out wit some people...!!!1????!!!???!?!?!?!?:rolleyes: :eek: :confused: :cool: :lol: :dance: :thumbsup: :rotfl:

[thePLAGUE]

more idiots contributg to this thread?

[FakedShinobi`]

Nah....I'll just stay and mock you instead...!!!???!!??....don't need to be established.....!!!! to out wit some people...!!!1????!!!???!?!?!?!?:rolleyes: :eek: :confused: :cool: :lol: :dance: :thumbsup: :rotfl:


lol i love this guy..

[bomerball]

worst thread ever?

[REDSFAN2004]

worst thread ever?im beginning to think so man.

[GoodSense]

I would consider a 3count poster... calling anyone out dopey and pathetic... you've contributed nothing to these boards but BULL...!!! come back when you have something to add... instead of piling on...:thumbsdow

Question for you. Hypothetical
Ok. A person is on your ignore list right? Right.
You can't see what they post right? Right.... well kinda.
So why post baiting messages if you really want to put an END to this mess , shown in red, about those on your ignore list for them to read????

I changed my siggy last night to make the again the 1st move to end this, not based on his reasoning, but just to get back to the real topic of APF 2k8.

I've contributed to this board plenty of times, but I don't boast about like I'm ultimate 2k.
He only has me on his list because he choose to debate and issue of my opinion.
That is it. He hasn't had a problem with me before because I haven't gotten into it with hime or anyone before.



But somehow your post was supposed to be a maturity barometer? The very fact that you signed up and wasted the time to post an insult on someone you've had no history with shows that you lack maturity (and intelligence).

The board has an ignore function. I have to use it because people around here, like yourself, lack the basic ability to be civil. I post in my sig who I've listed for two reasons:

1. So that maybe they'll stop running their mouths and realize that I can't see what they're writing anymore, which if they do stop it will be good for the community.

2. Maybe they'll get angry, go too far, and get banned.

#2 is big because quite frankly the people on the list have contributed nothing since they've signed up, have only caused trouble, and really don't belong here anyway. Them being banned will only help the community.

And, yes I will add you to the list now since you fall into the categories described. Don't like it? Neither do I. If you guys would quit acting like dumbazzez I wouldn't have to keep shutting you out. How do you not understand something so simple?

[GoodSense]

But somehow your post was supposed to be a maturity barometer? The very fact that you signed up and wasted the time to post an insult on someone you've had no history with shows that you lack maturity (and intelligence).

The board has an ignore function. I have to use it because people around here, like yourself, lack the basic ability to be civil. I post in my sig who I've listed for two reasons:

1. So that maybe they'll stop running their mouths and realize that I can't see what they're writing anymore, which if they do stop it will be good for the community.

2. Maybe they'll get angry, go too far, and get banned.

#2 is big because quite frankly the people on the list have contributed nothing since they've signed up, have only caused trouble, and really don't belong here anyway. Them being banned will only help the community.

And, yes I will add you to the list now since you fall into the categories described. Don't like it? Neither do I. If you guys would quit acting like dumbazzez I wouldn't have to keep shutting you out. How do you not understand something so simple?

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:rotfl: Rocked!