Whats the best recruiting methods for career legacy?

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RebornLordSlug Dec 26, 2006 12:20 pm PT
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Quietstorm75 Dec 27, 2006 8:55 am PT
This is a great topic b/c I'm interested in hearing what everyone else does. I normally try to balance all of my coaching stats so it takes me a lot longer to get the better players. I try to get at least one assistant that's primarily a recruiter, but b/c the guy sucks as a coach, my team does not improve as fast as I would like sometimes.

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corporatesuit Dec 27, 2006 1:56 pm PT
I like to raise my recruiting stats first and then teaching stats and if you come up with a a+ recruiter like i did, get him
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addyrem Dec 27, 2006 8:48 pm PT
hmm....increase recruiting stats first huh?.....i think i will try that too.....wat about the school u are in? Won't that effect recruiting as well?
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corporatesuit Dec 27, 2006 9:20 pm PT
after 5 years at army.... i got to maryland. go for the 5 star recruits during their JUNIOR year. if you reach to them during their junior year, you'll most likely land them. i usually go after 3 of them and constantly hit them with 5 e-mail and 1 phone a week.
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RebornLordSlug Dec 28, 2006 8:28 am PT
how about any ways to get the best with a school called navy? I try the world recruits but there just not working out for me.
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corporatesuit Dec 28, 2006 9:34 am PT
read what i wrote
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spoondictator Dec 28, 2006 12:35 pm PT
You have to be patient with the international players. It may look like you're behind at first, but in almost every case, all the teams in front of you will drop out and you'll have an easy time landing one.
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ABowser Dec 28, 2006 1:53 pm PT
corporatesuit wrote:
I like to raise my recruiting stats first and then teaching stats and if you come up with a a+ recruiter like i did, get him
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Yeah, that pretty much did it. Get someone with a high scout and charisma level. That way you can work on building yours up. After that, you may have to bite the bullet on a few 1 and 2 star players, but by seasons 2 and 3, you should be on to 3-4 star and possibly a 5 star player. The key is to not recruit seniors too heavily. They're seniors, most of them have made their minds up. Unless you see that your in the mix (like #3 or 4 out of 8 teams). If the kid has 25 teams looking at him and your number 15 and he's a senior, I would let it go.

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shadowquake611 Dec 28, 2006 2:19 pm PT
does emailing a player actually help?

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emerson212 Dec 28, 2006 5:51 pm PT
e-mails do help but not anything like a visit or invite to campus. it is best to recruit them in their junior year. if you just raise your chrisma before any other stat i think that is very stupid. raise your stats like this all the way up until you raise another. teaching-offense-defense-discipline-scouting-chrisma then that order and by year 4-5 you will have guys playing great basketball.

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RebornLordSlug Dec 28, 2006 6:15 pm PT
I THINK thats bad advice man. Charisma helps make ur actions on ur recruit make a more impact. How ur guys gonna be playing great when ur senior is a 59?
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emerson212 Dec 28, 2006 11:00 pm PT
well lets be honest your not going to get any good recruits until your 3rd year unless you get a good world recruit which doesnt take a lot of chrisma, just no intrest from other schools. no one should disagree that getting your teaching to A+ first is most important. i mean you start out with guys in the high 50's low 60's. over the next four years you want them to get better so you dont have to wait to get some wins. you people on here worry more about recruiting than the players you have now which is can effect your team. if you have good teaching and your offense and defense stats are up it wont matter if you get a bad recruting class becuase you will turn them into good players, plus recruits choose not on chrisma but on wins, close to home, if your a big time program and stuff like that. chrisma helps but i rather have my coach be better at coaching than recruting.

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corporatesuit Dec 29, 2006 7:01 am PT
i have two five star recruits (#10 and #20 in the nation) coming in
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Quietstorm75 Dec 29, 2006 7:41 am PT
I'm not going to argue as to whose method is better, but I do prefer teaching, charisma, defense, offense, scouting, and discipline. Discipline although last, is just as important b/c you don't want your bench freshmen player that's not getting any PT b/c he's not ready yet to leave.


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EWalker6884 Dec 30, 2006 6:47 am PT
pick one assistant who can scout and/or recruit, and one who can coach. Then raise your either charisma or scouting or teaching up depending on what your assistants do not have. I would say the most important attribute to have is charisma. Phone your junior targets every week with the highly charismatic coach, and email them with your teaching coach. E-mailing a recruit five times will raise his interest one whole percent each week...this makes a greater difference than one might think. I also contact EVERY 4 and 5 star world recruit. You never know with these guys, and since all you can do is phone and email them every week, it does not cost you many points/time. I've been 2nd on the list for a whole year with a 5 star from germany only to win him over on signing day. Also, just because a player is ranked higher than another doesnt mean he is necessarily a better player. Just like in real life, they have flops. Sort your recruiting targets by attributes such as shooting or leaping, and weed out the ones with multiple C's or B's. Every year there seems to be one or 2 players with an A in every category, and they are usually not the top ranked player.

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andjbock Dec 30, 2006 8:58 am PT
How do you raise coaching stats? I'm obviouslye missing something.
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HitmanGamer03 Dec 30, 2006 9:47 pm PT
To raise coaching stats with your head coach you get the 5 points at the very beginning and then after each year you get more points based on your success and things. You can fire assistant coaches also and replace them with better ones at the end of each year too if you dont they also may improve I think.

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RebornLordSlug Jan 1, 2007 10:29 am PT
does scouting really do anything?
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RebornLordSlug Jan 1, 2007 10:30 am PT
i kno it tells why recruits are interested but thats it?

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Quietstorm75 Jan 3, 2007 6:26 pm PT
Scouting helps you get information about the player and the teams that you are facing. Check your emails scouting reports. It gives you a better understanding of who you'll be going up against.

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aukevin Jan 5, 2007 8:19 am PT
"To raise coaching stats with your head coach you get the 5 points at the very beginning and then after each year you get more points based on your success and things. You can fire assistant coaches also and replace them with better ones at the end of each year too if you dont they also may improve I think."

I don't see where this is. Is this only at the beginning of the season? If I don't use the 5 points at the start of the year do I lose them? Where exactly do I go to assign these points?

Also, what's the target list do for you? Is it just to keep things more organized for the recruits you are really interested in, or do the recruits respond to you better when they are on your target list? I only have 2 scholarships to give out, but I have like 7 people on my target list, is that ok or should I just keep a low amount on the target list? Also, I have recruiting assistance on because I really don't like recruiting that much, but I've been told that the computer will handle stuff for you when you have people on the target list. Is that true, what all will happen? Will the computer offer the scholarships or do I still have to do that?

Also, at what point in the year do you offer scholarships? Pretty early or what?

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Quietstorm75 Jan 5, 2007 8:34 am PT
At the beginning of your legacy you will receive 5 attribute points to improve upon your coach. You can distribute the points any way you like. You cannot begin your season until this occurs.

Depending on the goals completed during the season (if any), you earn more attribute points that you can use during the end of the season. Once the championship season is completed you go to a summary of the season including list of champions, who graduated, coaching carousel, assistant coach list, etc. One of those screens will show you the attribute points you accumulated during the season. From there you disperse the points as you wish.

As far as scholarships, you can start giving out scholarships at least 3 weeks into the season, up until the end of the recruiting season. There are only 2 points in the season for recruits to sign up; 2 weeks in the beginning of the season; and 5 weeks after the season ends.



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aukevin Jan 5, 2007 10:08 am PT
Are these attribute points just for a closed legacy maybe? I'm doing an open one and I didn't see anything about assigning points to my coaches. Do you get an email when recruiting season begins? I've noticed some of my recruits have scholarship offers from other schools, so I thought that meant I might need to offer a couple, but my recruit's interests in my is 92%-85% and I didn't know if that was high enough. I've only played 3 games in the season so far, so I thought that might be a little early.

Thanks for all the good info.
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RebornLordSlug Jan 7, 2007 9:02 am PT
scouting sucks... tried game prepartion and umm.... i could have learned everything if i entered the game. i need help getting recruits without the 5 email 1 phone cuz i put ppl on target list and let the cpu recruit while i sim the season.
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badguyj Jan 7, 2007 10:57 pm PT
I am in my 4th season using Univerisity of California Riverside and recruiting has been a little bit easier. I was able to snag a 4-star and two 3-star recruits. The previous guy was right, you only get decent recruits until after your 3rd season. After my 3rd season and my good recruits, I had a record of 22-9 but exited in the first round.

I have no luck with World Recruits. Even though I am the only one recruiting them with phone calls and game tape, and I am the only one scouting them but yet I can't get them in their senoir year regardless of their interest level percentage.

How much longer with the small school program do you recommend I should stay before moving on the a bigger program? I want to try and make it to the Sweet 16 or if possible, NCAA championship but I'll probably get killed since my star player is a 74 = (

Tips or suggestions???

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corporatesuit Jan 8, 2007 6:27 am PT
I got my 5 star recruits in my 3 rd year, it took me five years to jump straight to duke
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badguyj Jan 13, 2007 1:02 pm PT
At the end of my 5th yr, i won the national championship (the cpu beat all the higher ranked team). There were 2 cinderella teams in the Final Four.

In the off season, I was picked up by UNC =)

Scouting is a a lot better as you have more points and more interested players.

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UniversalGamer0 Jan 14, 2007 12:51 pm PT
Is it possible to land a five star recruit who is a senoir if u haven't been scouting and recruiting him since he was a high school underclassman? Also when is a good time to start recruiting a player? (fr, so, jr, sr)

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RebornLordSlug Jan 23, 2007 1:14 pm PT
I was studying recruiting for the last week and I found a interesting fact out!

Fact#1: If your going to attempt to get world recruits (wor) then go after ones with 30% or higher. I am not guranteeing u will get him.... but if you go with 35% or higher u should
Fact#2:Often cehck ur recruits weekly to see how things turn out. I once saw a recruit with 18 interested teams in week 1 and 0 teams in week 4.
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DeeZi Feb 9, 2007 1:11 am PT
if you choose assisted recruiting, will the cpu send out scholarships or do they only target recruits?

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RebornLordSlug Feb 11, 2007 8:27 am PT
i think u have to send out the scholarships.....and they do recruit other ppl off the target list
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UniversalGamer0 Feb 26, 2007 6:57 am PT
If you recruit a world prospect just stay with them for a while, do all the essentials like phone them every week and e-mail them as much as possible. It might seem like you are their last choice but all the schools infront of you normally drop out leaving you the last one, so they sign with you. I also find the best time to start recruiting someone highly rated is freshman year, if your really a small school.

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TopDog125 Mar 17, 2007 10:28 pm PT
Can somebody please tell me how to target a recruit? I have played this game a lot and cannot figure it out.

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Error. S2TSDaGeneral Mar 20, 2007 10:11 pm PT
maybe it's just me but I was able to do well recruiting wise my first two seasons

my first season with North Colorado I got three 3-star recruits
and my second season i got 1 four star recruit and two 3-star recruits

my only real strategy was to do my thing during the season, then make a push for any player who didnt have a team interested during the offseason rush...so far it's worked for me and i have 6 core players who are the future of my team
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Elmdor5445 Mar 20, 2007 11:55 pm PT
I'm really frustrated with recruiting thus far. I'm at Duke so I should be doing pretty well right. I have all stats at A+ except scouting and discipline. Discipline is at B and Scouting is at C. I've been at Duke 4 seasons, 2 Championships and 2 Final Fours. I use my phone calls, emails and house/campus visits. I have the people at 100%. I'll be #1 on their list but somehow when I go from sunday to monday I get screwed and lemme say Syracuse and BC are gonna have some sick squads soon.

I usually do whatever visits I can get on Monday. Then do phone calls Tuesday. Then do an Email each day until Sunday then of course Monday is next so I just repeat. I even start recruiting at the sophomore lvl I request game tapes then when they are juniors I do the phone call email workout the whole time. I even somehow had a recruit pulled from chapel hill which is MUN and they went to flippin Syracuse even though his first priority was playing close to home. Actually it could have been one of the three but I know it was on there.

What do I need to do differently or am I really just that unlucky and should stop playing this game now?

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theamericandrea Mar 21, 2007 5:33 pm PT
is recruiting guys who are juniors really worth it? it seems like it wouldn't be because you'd have to wait until the next season to actually be able to get them. I would think that you would want to go after the guys who you can have playing on your team next year, right? Or is it different for this game?

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corporatesuit Mar 22, 2007 5:58 am PT
I recruit every class. if I recruit freshmen and sphs now, they're more likely to be mine when they're seniors
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yellowjacket712 Mar 25, 2007 8:41 pm PT
How come juniors change so much from one season to the next? A lot of times I'll be at 99% with some juniors at the end of one season, and then at the end I'm in the 80s again. Oh, and another question...if you just let the CPU do your recruiting for you, do they tend to go after the same targets as you? cuz it really gets old after a while when every freaking week you have to go to recruting and manually assign all 75 points (i put my scouting on max just so i'd have less points to spread) to people.
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babynenox Apr 9, 2007 8:24 am PT
i got charisma on A+ because i do mainly all the recruiting and all the traveling but i always look for a good scouter like B or higher and a little charisma because he wil be travling a lot also to scout games of recruits, but the 3rd assistant I always get a very good teacher like A or B+ because he'll be in practice most of the times, so that way recruiting is efficient and players get better in practice, also the scout will tell you more things in one visit than a bad scouter that is the only difference. As far as recruits i dont offer scholarships to anybody until when i get their interest gets from 75 to 80% and then their interst will jump to 85 or something like that. Also try to always keep a scholarship free, because at the last three weeks there a lot of good recruits open who were not interested in you but since the school they were interested in ran out of scholarships their interest for you will go up dramatically(Specially Junior College players). World recruits are not easy i agree but stay on them i usually email them like 6 times until the email option is not there anymore because the interest will go up like 1 or 2 % for your school. (Do this with other recruits too it makes a difference) Also do this when you have a recruit who is 100 % for your school and 100% for another but the other school is his first option emailing will make that difference.

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babynenox Apr 9, 2007 8:27 am PT
Also check your rosters if you have a redshirt Jr or Sr who is not over 64 or 65 cut him and you will get an extra scholarship to recruit a up and coming freshman .

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e-mails help some. I notice maybe 1% increase after I send the max to a recruit. It's many small increases. I think you have about 15-16 weeks of recruiting in season (so in theory, you could move a guy from 80% to 95%??? don't count on it moving that far all the time). You'll notice that if you don't e-mail them every week, their interest will drop (just check their interest at the end of the recruiting season then check it again when the tourney's are over and you can start your contacts again).

plus any points you can spend on calls, visits, scouting, etc. Small school have fewer pts to allot (College of Charleston currently gives 765 pts to use if I read it right.

I tend to split my time with seniors and juniors early at a school. Try to sign someone good this year, but start laying the base for next year. Now, I can generally sign 2 of my 3 scholarships in the early signing period. So then I spend the rest of the season lining up one more SR to sign, and the rest on the top Jr prospects that I want to target.

Look at the stats as much as their stars. I have signed many 3 star players that end up grading out better than a 4 star player. I look for the best player overall, and then the players that fit my immediate needs. (example, I had 2 great SF's, but a 5 star SF was very interested in my team. So I went after him - can always move one to fill in at SG or PF in a pinch. Which the guy I signed was the starting PG on the East-West All-Star Game).

I always approach it more as real life than as a game. Like another post said, I spread out my coaching pts rather than just bunch them up in charisma. I also look for asst. coaches who can fill in the gaps I may have (be a well rounded coaching staff). I realize I'm not coaching at Duke, etc. and don't expect to bring in the top players every year. I put together a quality team (currently get a mix of two 5stars and a 4 star most years at TCU. When I found out I had College of Charleston too, I'm looking to get them a couple 3 stars and a 2 star or two. they have 7 sr's so hopefully I'll get some transfers if I don't recruit enough players the first year.

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oh, and world players. I don't rely too much on them. I signed a 2 star Center my first year and never really bothered much after that. I can usually find domestic players that are as good or better. and back to my reality gig, not many schools recruit a United Nations all-star team. If you have 1 or 2, that's ok. At CofC, there are a couple 3 star guys who are 40% interested and that has not moved all season. So my guess is if you want a world recruit, there might be more success after the season. Once the season is done, I'll find out.

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I have a stupid question, but when and how do you offer? Finally have time to fool around with it but can't figure that out. Also, thanks for all of the suggestions made about how to approach the actual recruitment. Its so different than the football games.

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"offer scholarship" is one of the options (along with e-mail, phone, visit, etc.) in the recruiting menu

as for when:
I usually wait for the player to have 90% interest to offer him, and that will boost his interest. If a player doesnt sign during the early period, I remove all offers (that way I can work his interest back up during the year, and get that boost again when it counts the most). You can offer sooner to try and peak his interest somewhat, but waiting has worked for me so far.

I have had good luck in signing a couple players in the early period (if I've been at the school for a year and been able to work on the junior players and build a base of interest).

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Here's some of my recruiting tips.....I am often able to land 4 and 5 star recruits my very first season in a legacy.

First off, I use all 5 coaching attribute points on CHARISMA....I've found it's easier to give myself a B+ in Charisma than to find an assistant with a rating that high.

I tend to focus on very few players early in the recruiting season.

If there is a local recruit who fits some into my style ( I like guys who can shoot), then I will go after them. Most of these guys are 2 star recruits, maybe 3 star. but they are 2 star recruits who do 1 or 2 things well.....like shoot well, or rebound well. Basically I'm looking for role players who may blossom after 2 or 3 seasons, and contribute as juniors, seniors, or redshirt sophomores if I red shirt them.

In my current Legacy, I was able to find a nice little local 2 star recruit with a good shooting rating. He wanted to stay close to home and I landed him in the early signing period.

All recruiting actions I took were with my head coach because his Charisma is a B+.

So to sum it up.....early in recruiting I go after local guys who are role players whose skills match the skills I like. I also look for guys who already have SOME interest in my school....so maybe their interest level is 40% or higher.

I target 2, maybe 3, of these players and go after them hard....if it doesn't look like I can get them, maybe because a big school is ahead of me, I forget them and move on.

I like to save my recruiting points for the later parts of recruiting.....lots of people blow all their points early....this can be a mistake.

The next thing I do is look for WORLD recruits who have slipped thru the cracks and have a decent interest in my school. Usually no lower than 30% or so early.

I look for World recruits that NO ONE else is recruiting. If you spend a little time searching thru the World recruits you can often find 4 and 5 star guys that no one is even trying to recruit.

This is especially true after the early signing period ends.

I don't target the BEST World recruits....I concentrate on the highly rated ones that no one seems to want.

I can usually find at least 2 four star or above World recruits that aren't getting any action from anyone.

I go after these guys hard.....5 emails and a phone call every week from my head coach. The B+ charisma rating helps this. If the recruits interest doesn't start to go up quickly, I look to move on.

I seem to have the most success with World recruits whose top priority is "getting playing time"...

Again, I don't target many guys, and most of the guys I do target are World recruits, so I don't use a lot of recruiting points in the course of the season.

Oh...I offer these World recruits scholarships as soon as I can, I've found WHEN you offer the scholarship really doesn't seem to have a big effect on things.

Then when the season is over, I usually have signed one local 2 star recruit early, or I have them at 100% and it is a sure thing that they will sign.

At that time I also usually have one or 2 World recruits who are likely to sign, meaning their interest is hovering around 70% or so...maybe a little higher. These World recruits are usually 3 and 4 star guys, but often I am able to find a 5 star guy who slips thru the cracks.

So at that point I usually have about 3 guys who look like they are fairly committed....and I also still have some recruiting points.

This is key because once recruits start to sign in the offseason signing period, big schools will run out of scholarships and stop recruiting guys they were after earlier in the year.

I sort thru the recruits looking for guys who don't have teams that are after them heavily.....this usually means the team they had #1 stopped recruiting them.

You can find alot of recruits who thought they were going to a big school who now are left without a lot of options.

Junior college recruits seem to have this happen more frequently then incoming freshman.

When I spot one or 2 of these guys I go after them full go, and I am able to because I still have recruiting points.

I almost always land at least one recruit who "slips thru the cracks" every season.

Most of these guys are 3 start players, but I've pulled a few 4 stars.

When all is done, I am usually able to look at my first recruiting class and see a local 2 star role player, one or 2 World recruits who are usually 3 or 4 star guys, and 1 or 2 recruits that slipped thru the cracks who are 3 or 4 stars and like I said, often these guys are Junior college guys.

The last time I started a new legacy, my first recruiting class went like this:

a 5 star World recruit SF who was #12 SF overall
a 3 star World PF solid rebounder in top 100 of PF's
a 2 star local PG who could shoot, but not much else
a 2 star center who was 7-1 and was okay
a 3 star Sg who slipped thru the cracks....he was a freshman at a JUCO

To sum it all up, here are some tips.....

1) Don't blow your load early in recruiting by wasting a ton of points, as a small school these points are more valuable to you later. Blowing them early often doesn't land you any players.

2) Target World recruits that no one is after.

3) Target players with little competition.

4) Using the points you saved from playing it safe early, go after recruits who slip thru the cracks after the big time schools start signing players and using all their scholarships.

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