Floyd Mayweather vs Oscar De La Hoya

[machine24]

Who is watching and who does everyone think is gonna win?


I am ordering it and I am for Oscar but I think Mayweather wins via decision.

[2KSPORTS FAN]

i think De la Hoya will win this one

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I'm putting my money on Mayweather Jr. I feel pretty boy is too quick and good for De La Hoya. I also wouldn't be surprised if De La Hoya were to win either because if he's more experienced and if he can sneak a clean shot in there, he has the power to lay Mayweather out! Either way I wouldn't mind seeing either guy win.

Checkout this analysis I got from Doghouseboxing.com :)


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By Jeremy Valdez (April 11, 2007) Doghouse Boxing


With the 'SuperFight' now less than a month away the speculation of what will happen is growing by the day. Is Floyd Mayweather too young and too fast? Is Oscar De La Hoya too big and too strong? There are many scenarios that could unfold in this fight and the strategy used by both men will likely be the biggest factor in how the fight plays out. Both fighters, undoubtedly, are two of the most skilled fighters in the sport during the past 15 years. Here is how I broke down some of those key skill categories for their May 5th clash.

Size: Oscar is obviously the bigger man at about 5'10 1/2" compared to Floyd who is probably closer to 5'7" than the 5'8" he's listed at. He also has a much bigger body and probably walks around at over 170lbs in between fights. Floyd probably walks around at about 155-160 tops. It's true that they both started out at about the same weight but Oscar was always blown up at 130-140. His natural weight class was 147-154. Floyd was always natural at 130,135, and 140. 147 even seems a little big for him and 154 is definitely pushing the envelope. Especially since he was only 152lbs 30 days before the fight. Floyd's biggest disadvantage at the weight will be if it slows him down at all. Physically I don't think Oscar is stronger at all. Oscar won't be able to push him around at all. The size will only be an advantage for Oscar if he uses it correctly. If he boxes and uses his jab effectively it could prove to be a major factor in the outcome. If he tries to get too close and stands straight up Mayweather will hit him with hooks, bodyshots, and straight rights all night long and then his size will be a disadvantage. I think Oscar knows this and will come out boxing and not trying to make the fight a war like people are expecting, at least early on.

Advantage: De La Hoya

Punching Power: This will be Oscar De La Hoya's biggest advantage. When Floyd knocks people out it's because of constant, cumulative punches. He doesn't have one punch knockout power at all. De La Hoya is not a huge puncher either but if you don't see that left hook coming it could be lights out. Other than landing that one big punch, Oscar's best chance is to hit Mayweather enough to where his edge in power will take an effect on Floyd in the second half of the fight and wear him down. This includes going to the body which Oscar is not really known for. It'll be a tough task because landing combinations on Floyd is like trying to throw 10 straight completions against the NFL's best defensive back. Floyd's best chances will be to land one-two combinations and get in and out all night long. That's when he's at his best and sharpest. When Floyd stands and trades his punches get wide and his chin stays up in the air a little too much. That's what happened with Corley. Chop Chop just didn't really have the power to make Mayweather really pay for it.

Advantage: De La Hoya

Handspeed: Floyd may not have the fastest hands in the sport but nobody does it better at putting together the hand speed, sharp punching, and timing. That's why his hand speed seems so impressive. Every punch counts and nothing is wasted. He definitely has the most 'effective hand speed' in boxing. He throws that straight right as quick and accurate as anyone I've ever seen. If De La Hoya gets frustrated early on Mayweather will pick him apart with his 2 and 3 punch combinations. The big question is how fast will he be at 154 lbs? De La Hoya, on the other hand, is not as fast as he once was but he's still one of the 3 or 4 fastest fighters Mayweather has faced. Combine that with his size and power advantage and it makes him very dangerous. When he hurts an opponent is when De La Hoya is at his best. If Floyd gets rocked Oscar will definitely not give him the chance to recover. He'll let those combinations fly and try to finish him.

Advantage: Mayweather

Stamina: I think this will be Floyd's biggest advantage. His work ethic is unbelievable and I'm sure he will come into this fight in the best shape of his career. The thing I will be looking for will be how much muscle Mayweather puts on to add weight. Adding too much muscle could hurt his speed and stamina. Just ask Shane Mosley. I think Floyd is professional enough to not make that mistake but It's something to look out for. Oscar is known for stamina problems. He was exhausted in the last 4 rounds against Trinidad and stamina was likely a big factor in his knockout loss to Hopkins. He was looking extremely relaxed against Mayorga and was throwing relaxed punches instead of tense punches throughout the fight. That relaxation is probably the best thing he picked up from Floyd Mayweather Sr. Hopefully he won't forget about that with the move to Freddie Roach. The big concern here for Oscar is that he has fought less than 15 rounds in 3 years. Layoffs can be beneficial but that's a little extreme.

Advantage: Mayweather

Footwork: This is another big advantage for Mayweather. He gets in and out so fast with that footwork and he's always in great position to counter. Oscar sometimes can be a little too stiff and it definitely will make him an easy target if he doesn't correct it. Mayweather's only flaw in his footwork seems to be that his stance is really wide at times. This occasionally puts him off balance and Oscar should look to take advantage of that.

Advantage: Mayweather

Defense: De La Hoya's defense is greatly improved over the last couple of fights and Mayweather has the best defense in the game. His footwork and upper body movement makes it extremely difficult to hit him cleanly. Even when he's hit he rolls with the punch so well that it doesn't have much effect. Oscar's best defense in this fight will be his jab. If he can use his height and distance properly it will make it very difficult for Mayweather to leap in with that straight right. Oscar should keep his hands high and jab all night long. Even doing that Mayweather is still the much better defensive fighter.

Advantage: Mayweather

Experience: Oscar has been in big fights his entire career. Whitaker, Trinidad, Quartey, Vargas, Chavez, Mosley, and Hopkins among others. There is no way that he will let the atmosphere of this event get to him. Floyd has been in a couple big events against Gatti, Judah, and somewhat against Baldomir. None of those even compare to May 5. All the pressure is on him. I don't think the cameras and media in his training camp will bother him at all because he loves that, but the pressure of feeling like he must please the crowd and put on a spectacular performance could push him into the type of fight that he doesn't want. I think this is where having his father involved will be an advantage. He knows Oscar so if he has any say Floyd will stick to the gameplan and won't be lured into a slugfest.

Advantage: De La Hoya

Desire: This is an advantage and disadvantage for Floyd. He's wanted this fight his entire career. He wants to go in there and prove that he's the much better fighter and that he should have been the one brought up to be the big superstar by Top Rank. He's always resented Oscar because of his stardom and wants to put on the performance of his lifetime. This could cause him to train too hard or try to outfight Oscar and that would be a mistake. If Floyd was to lose this fight I don't see him taking it very well and probably wouldn't be the same fighter with such a huge blow to his confidence. That's if he doesn't retire. It'll be much harder for Oscar to motivate himself for this fight. His priority seems to be business and not his boxing career. Hopefully for him, Floyd's trash talking was enough to make him want this fight badly enough. If he wins I think even a lot of De La Hoya detractors will have new found respect that he was able to knock off the pound for pound king, even if Mayweather is up too high in weight.

Advantage: Mayweather


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Chin & Heart: This is the area that's up for the most debate. Nobody can say Floyd doesn't have a good chin. He's never been dropped. He's been stunned a couple of times but every fighter has. His chin is a question mark though because he's never been hit cleanly on the chin by a big puncher, especially at this weight. He doesn't get hit a lot so who knows how his body will react if he gets tagged by a clean left hook. Roy Jones went 15 years without really getting hit a lot and as soon as he did it was lights out in 2 consecutive fights, probably because his chin wasn't used to getting hit hard. Floyd's heart is also a question mark because he's never really been put in the position to have to dig deep to pull a fight out. In the cases where he's hurt his hands he was always able to box and outclass his opponents enough to get through without too much trouble. Oscar has proven that his chin is very good. He's had some flash knockdowns in his career but I've never seen him really hurt and staggered and he's been hit cleanly by Mosley, Trinidad, Vargas, and Quartey. His heart has also been tested and he's shown a big heart in finishing fights with Vargas, Quartey, and Chavez. He's also shown a lack of heart against Trinidad, and Mosley when the fights were on the line. His heart was also questioned when he didn't even make a real attempt to get up from the Hopkins body punch. In that fight I think he saw that he couldn't beat Hopkins and really didn't want to fight anymore.

Advantage: Push

Fight Stipulations: Everything here is stacked in Oscar's favor. It is a little reminiscent of Leonard-Hagler when Hagler wanted that fight so bad he gave into all of Leonard's demands and it proved to be a big part of why he lost. Oscar demanded that the fight be at 154 and not a catchweight. You can't blame Oscar for that and I don't think there is any way he could make 147 or 150. He barely was able to make 147 against Trinidad and that was 8 years ago. The ring size is also a smart move by Oscar. I think it would have hurt Oscar's stamina big time to try to move around a big ring with the faster Mayweather. The demand for Floyd to wear Reyes gloves has me wondering how much Oscar believes in himself to win the fight, however. This shows that he really wants Floyd to hurt his hands in the fight because that will be his best chance. If that wasn't the case he would have had no problem allowing Floyd to wear Winning gloves because the effect of the punches will have less of an effect on Oscar. The Reyes gloves will definitely sting Oscar more so why would he demand Floyd wear them if he didn't want him to hurt his hands? This is a sort of contradiction of him saying he wants a crowd pleasing fight because Floyd hurting his hands will provide the biggest chance for the fight to be a snooze fest. If that happens I think just as much blame should be put on Oscar as there will be on Mayweather. I don't think it will end up being a big factor though. Floyd's hands have held up in most of his fights over the last few years and he used Reyes gloves for a lot of his early fights including against Diego Corrales.

Advantage: De La Hoya

Outcome: I think the fight will start out tactical and Oscar will be boxing and jabbing for the first 4 rounds trying to get Mayweather's timing down, especially his straight right hand. Floyd will jab to the body and throw a lot of left hooks trying to stay away from Oscar's left. The second half of the fight is where De La Hoya should use as many feints as possible trying to lure Mayweather into making a mistake so he can land the left. If Oscar doesn't have any success early on and gets frustrated it could be a long last few rounds for Oscar. Floyd will dominate the last few rounds with his superior conditioning in that situation. If Oscar lands early and often and wears Mayweather down with his bigger shots, it will be a very interesting finish. That's assuming De La Hoya doesn't land that one big shot that could end the fight early on. I think strategy will indeed be the determining factor in the fight and I can't wait to see how every round plays out. I'll reserve my pick until the week of the fight since I keep going back and forth on who I think will win.


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[ReloadTheThree]

Uh... I'll say De La Hoya wins.

[REDSFAN2004]

im not watching it,but i want de la hoya to win though.

[Dirty Dirk]

Man I feel sorry for the person who doesn't order this Mayweather will win TKO 9th round

[Brankles]

Mayweather wins via decision. The guy is the best pound-for-pound boxer of all time. He's never been knocked out or knocked down. He's too quick, he's too technically sound. De La Hoya is a great fighter, but he's just not as talented as Floyd.

The only chance De La Hoya's got is to get some "lucky" hits in and rattle Mayweather. Mayweather's not really been tested by anyone, so for him to get behind in a fight may throw him off of his game, especially if he has to attack in the later rounds.

[machine24]

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I dont think Mayweather is better than Sugar Ray Robinson.

I just hope the fight is worth the 55 bucks I am putting down for it. I also bought Mayweather's last fight and it was HORRIBLY Boring. What a waste of 50 bucks. This fight though is gonna be worth it cause De La Hoya always puts on a show.

[Brankles]

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I dont think Mayweather is better than Sugar Ray Robinson.

I just hope the fight is worth the 55 bucks I am putting down for it. I also bought Mayweather's last fight and it was HORRIBLY Boring. What a waste of 50 bucks. This fight though is gonna be worth it cause De La Hoya always puts on a show.

Mayweather is pretty boring to watch. He's so quick and methodical that his fights don't usually turn out to be slug fests, which are generally much more entertaining. Hopefully De La Hoya does his best to turn this thing into the must-see fight of the century that many are making it out to be.

[MetsFan4Ever]

It will be a first round KO by De La Hoya.

[ReloadTheThree]

Maybe I should just forgo buying the fight on PPV and go to Disneyland's ESPNZone and watch it there. :think:

[sportslover]

I'm not really rooting for anyone, but I am ordering it.

[Fry Pujols]

De La Hoya will win hands down

[Reeko_1521]

Rooting for Floyd.

[sonnyjames]

i don't like either one of them.....:thumbsdow

[Janelly1810]

I say De La Hoya wins. He's got a pretty good advantage over Mayweather because of his size. Pretty Boy Floyd is the better boxer though.

[XSolidX]

Hopefully De La Hoya wins

[Fry Pujols]

Hopefully De La Hoya wins
Back atch ya :dance:

[machine24]

Mayweather has his hit and run strategy though which s.ucks to watch but I think he will be out to try and prove something this fight and will get caught up in a slugfest he can't win.

[Mariners in 2006]

I like Floyd to get the W, but he sure is one cocky SOB, he may get to full of himself and underestimate Hoya. :eek:

I'll be out in the city tomorrow night bar hoping, so I should be able to catch the fight for free, should be one of the best fights in a long time. :thumbsup:

[REDSFAN2004]

I like Floyd to get the W, but he sure is one cocky SOB, he may get to full of himself and underestimate Hoya. :eek:

I'll be out in the city tomorrow night bar hoping, so I should be able to catch the fight for free, should be one of the best fights in a long time. :thumbsup:and hopefully its the fight that saves boxing.

[Get Crazy]

De la hoya USED to be "the golden boy" but now all he's remembered for is playing hide and seek for the last 3 rounds against trinidad and getting paper airplaned by benard hopkins

Mayweather in an easy one

[HunterSkunter]

De La Hoya.

[Brew Crew07]

I could care less..hmm i'll go with De La Hoya.

[ChrisPaul_3]

Oscar De La Hoya!

[fuzyaxis]

Mayweaher is a thug, so he will ****ing own the pretty boy De La Hoya, I hope De La Hoya doesn't break a nail.

[sportslover]

Hopefully it's not a bore fest like the Trinidad fight...

I ordered it, but I'm inviting some friends and so is my dad so I'll end up paying like $10.

[Magicman620]

the pretty boy De La Hoya,

Thats funny seeing as how Mayweather calls himself "Pretty Boy" but Imma choose Mayweather in this fight

[REDSFAN2004]

just outta curiousity,does anybody know if the fight has started yet.

[XSolidX]

just outta curiousity,does anybody know if the fight has started yet.
Its about to start in like 5-10 minutes

[REDSFAN2004]

Its about to start in like 5-10 minutesthats cool i will keep an eye on espnews they usually update it,during a fight,i really wish i was into boxing like i once was,cause i have a feeling i might miss a good fight.

[XSolidX]

Wow Mayweather is gonna come out in a sombrero and has the mexican colors on his robe

Crazy....hopefully he gets ****ed up by Oscar

[REDSFAN2004]

thats what im hoping for i really want oscar to win the fight.

[Dirty Dirk]

Floyd is giving it to him Floyd 188 - 67 Oscar 200 - 54

[Dirty Dirk]

Floyd 118 -318 Oscar 107 - 330

[Dirty Dirk]

Round 10 Floyd 20 - 44 Oscar 7 - 62 Oscar is a mop he isn't gonna win he swings and swings and nothing connects

[Dirty Dirk]

Floyd is eating him up in round 11 connecting and connecting Oscar TIRED!!

[Dirty Dirk]

Round 11 Floyd 26 - 64 Oscar 8 - 47 FINAL ROUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OSCAR NEEDS A KNOCKOUT NOT GONNA HAPPEN!!!!! $D

[Dirty Dirk]

Judge 1:115 - 113 Oscar
Judge 2:118 -116 Mayweather
Judge 3:116 - 114Mayweather

AND NEW CHAMPION MAYWEATHER I GET MY MONEY YEEEEEEESSS

[Dirty Dirk]

I have nothing else to prove and yes I am retiring - Floyd Mayweather

[REDSFAN2004]

i just saw the out come on espnews,damn i wanted oscar to win,oh well though.

[Dirty Dirk]

Floyd spanked him Oscar is easy he is a mop he didn't throw the jab all he did was threw more landed less anybody who picked Oscar is a square nobody to the sport of boxing

[Dirty Dirk]

To give Oscar a round is sad from that judge

[Bakes]

pretty good fight i enjoyed it alot..i was rollin when Floyd came out in a sombrero lol..i wanted Floyd to win but i thought he would do it alot more decisevly ..De La hoya stayed strong but Floyd stayed with his game plan and boxed his way to a victory..good fight but not a great fight


o yea i also enjoyed the first undercard alot and thought the second one was horrendous lol

[machine24]

Ignorant judge that gave De La Hoya the fight.

I felt I got my 55 bucks worth and thats all u can ask for.

If Mayweather fights Shane Mosley, That will be a WAR.

[Bakes]

Ignorant judge that gave De La Hoya the fight.


lol..plus he scored it 116-114 i think...thats two rounds more for De la hoya..thats was just retarded

oo and shane definatly wants him next..him and hopkins had some great seats...


i cant wait for hopkins and wright..two of my favorite fighters right now

[weasel3000]

Boring fight that didnt live up to the hype. If Oscar wouldnt have pressed the fight, there wouldnt have been one LOL.

[sportslover]

I wasn't expecting a great fight, considering it who was in the ring. I did get my $10's worth.

[Dirty Dirk]

I got my money's worth I was on the edge of my seat all night

[machine24]

WRight vs Hopkins has the chance to be very boring though as Hopkins likes to Counterpunch and Winky is a defensive fighter.



I can kind of agree in a way with De La Hoya winning, I mean Mayweather really didnt land anything and I kept seeing the compubox numbers saying he landed 20 power shots and I am sorry but I saw Mayweather land maybe 20 powershots the entire fight. He landed over 100?

I think they need to step up the criteria of what a power shot is. I didn't see Mayweather do anything significant in the fight.

Oscar was outthrowing him almost 2-1 every round and what Mayweather did land wasnt strong or effective for the most part.

Now I've had a day to think on it, I thought it should've been a draw.

U watch the fight and u can't really say one guy beat the other. Neither guy looked as if they'd been in a fight afterwards either.

[kcxiv]

Floyd spanked him Oscar is easy he is a mop he didn't throw the jab all he did was threw more landed less anybody who picked Oscar is a square nobody to the sport of boxing
I dont think he "spanked" him. After the fight, it didnt even look like Oscar was even hit. I am not saying Floyd didnt win. He probably did due to his horrible style of boxing to watch. His style is effective, but hit and run boxing is boring to watch. Anyways, its all over. Off to the next big fight.

[XSolidX]

I watched the fight and im pretty surprised that im hearing that Mayweather spanked De La Hoya all night.

The fight was actually very close imo.Either boxer couldve won but De La Hoya got kinda tired at the end and that lost him the fight.Mayweather didnt really hit Oscar hard but the announcer said that Oscar always got into the ''kill zone'' and Mayweather always caught him.And in almost every round Oscar got Mayweather cornered.

It was a good fight and it was almost a draw.2 judges gave Oscar the 12th round and the other gave it to Floyd.If that judge wouldve gace the 12th to Oscar as well then the fight wouldve been a draw(At least thats was Brian Kenny said on ESPNEWS)

[machine24]

Jerry Roth is the same judge who Screwed Oscar in the Trinidad fight.

[weasel3000]

Ignorant judge that gave De La Hoya the fight.


I can kind of agree in a way with De La Hoya winning, I mean Mayweather really didnt land anything and I kept seeing the compubox numbers saying he landed 20 power shots and I am sorry but I saw Mayweather land maybe 20 powershots the entire fight. He landed over 100?


LOL.......

[Mariners in 2006]

I thought it was a solid fight, one of the better one's I've seen in awhile that had something on the line.

Look at the cash made by Oscar though:
Mayweather stands to make at least $10 million to De La Hoya's $25 million, with possibly much more for each if pay-per-view sales satisfy predictions.

LMAO... :lol:

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[Cannonball0828]

U watch the fight and u can't really say one guy beat the other. Neither guy looked as if they'd been in a fight afterwards either.
Exactly!

Does anybody think that Mayweather is really going to retire?

[Brew Crew07]

As strange as it may sound boxing in my opinion is ****ing boring.

[sportslover]

I thought it was a solid fight, one of the better one's I've seen in awhile that had something on the line.

Look at the cash made by Oscar though:


LMAO... :lol:

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I died when I saw him come out like that.

I really don't Pretty Boy Floyd will retire.

[prudent]

Such a dissappointing fight..... seriously... that fight ended and it looked like they finished the first round... just awful...... and de la hoya should have won it!

[oaklandraiders510]

i wanna see a Roy jones vs Mayweather fight.


mayweather is a jaw-jacker, and jones will break that jaw along with his record

[REDSFAN2004]

i wanna see a Roy jones vs Mayweather fight.


mayweather is a jaw-jacker, and jones will break that jaw along with his recordi would love to see that,and yes i think i would actually pay to see that fight,if it ever went down.

[machine24]

Roy Jones is washed up and over the hill. Mayweather would kill him at the right weight.

Jones is a Light Heavyweight though, So that fight could never happen.

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Pretty Boys amazing defense. The Oscar fans were going wild during these exchanges. :rotfl:

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It was a great fight, and both guys put on a performance, but Mayweather was clearly the better fighter that night. I give Oscar tons of credit for initiating most of the fight, maintaining his stamina, and not quitting (which was the case a couple of times in the past during his career). Mayweather is a technician with a vicious right hook, his defense is second to none and his chin has never been fully tested because it's nearly impossible to unload on him. Oscar has, and always had, a better jab and his unwillingness in throwing that killer jab is what might of cost him the fight. During the post fight interview he couldn't even answer the question as to why he didn't throw the jab more. If you see something working in your favor you're suppose to stick with it! That's unacceptable coming a veteran boxer of his stature. De La Hoya was throwing flurries, glancing blows and being the initiator but the majority of those punches weren't clean, and didn't really cause any damage whatsoever.

I give Oscar all the props in the world for making the fight competitive against the greatest pound-for-pound boxer in the game today, after such a long layoff. That should say something about Oscar's heart and determination if it hasn't sunk in already.


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[jjredick4]

i'm not that big of a fan of boxing...but i'm still happy that Mayweather won 38-0(Mayweather is my favorite boxer...honestly, i dont kno that many boxers, cept for Mayweather & De La Hoya and a few others..and of course the ppl from the past..but i hate De La Hoya)

[Mariners in 2006]

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Best hit of the night... :eek: