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Excaliber
June 19th, 2007, 12:25 PM
Community,
I'm sure the folks at EA have done this many times to our 2K franchise - they've sat down in a room and analyzed what the competition offers and decides whether they need to counter by implementing similar features.
I'd like to have an Intelligent Discussion on what Madden does well and what it can improve on based on ONLY the new videos released on Gametrailers today - please do not bring up other versions of the game (only if you need to referencing an important point grounded in the current videos). If you feel you cant do this, please do not post.

First and foremost download as many of the new madden videos you can ive provided links to several here, but grab the newest ones (not the interview one).

Now i've downloaded all the new Madden Videos on the frontpage today, as well at the Ncaa videos for analysis.
Here are important things that I noticed this game does well and needs to be noted:

1. The game looks faster then previous iterations (this isn't a problem 2K has ever had, so no real action needed here).

2. This years player introductions are F-ing cool and no one can deny that (download the video) We need something this Impactful to introduce the Legend players, if we dont already.http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_madden08_playerintro_gp_gt_h264.wmv

3. The Animations are improved and feel as if they have weight (again not a problem for us we have always had the edge here)

4. I feel the Injuries system in madden are still static and lacking (we will have the decided edge here)

5. The sidelines are devoid of any real-life atmosphere - sorry but 20 guys all doing the same "cheering" animation isnt going to cut it - one of the videos has the cheifs side line all doing the same animation while the greenbay sideline are statues, LOL Link here: http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_madden08_endzonerush_gp_gt_h264.wmv

Really the only thing that concerns me about this game is the Sheer Depth and amount of Features and Modes, though I suppose most of us already knew this was where the real deficiency was there it is for those of us who dont.

Lastly, as I hope were all Football Fans first, and 2K fans second. I'd like to say that this years Madden looks alot better that the previous ones that ive been burned on before - 2K needs to take note and learn - counter if they are going to get back in this for real.

See my other thread for how this might not work: http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122718

HoustonOilers
June 19th, 2007, 12:41 PM
So the bottomline is that you are upset there is no franchise mode? The game caters to online players and is going to be the greatest football game ever made.

Excaliber
June 19th, 2007, 12:45 PM
So the bottomline is that you are upset there is no franchise mode? The game caters to online players and is going to be the greatest football game ever made.

LoL, well when you put it like that makes my post seem pointless. Your right 2k8 Is going to kick some major ***.

And just so that I haven't completely wasted your time: Madden 09 will include "Photo Game Face" from Tiger Woods 08, so I hope that 2K9 will do the same a-la Rainbow six, I mean am I the only sap who bought the Xbox Live Vision Camera? DAMN.

GhostRider
June 19th, 2007, 12:45 PM
So the bottomline is that you are upset there is no franchise mode? The game caters to online players and is going to be the greatest football game ever made.


This game is not catering to online players...Mr Chau stated that they did not develop the ideas needed to implement a Franchise with Legends this year.....I am going to play this game a lot online, but still a lot more off.

JayMizzle
June 19th, 2007, 12:46 PM
Nice post...dude

GhostRider
June 19th, 2007, 12:46 PM
LoL, well when you put it like that makes my post seem pointless. Your right 2k8 Is going to kick some major ***.

And just so that I haven't completely wasted your time: Madden 09 will include "Photo Game Face" from Tiger Woods 08, so I hope that 2K9 will do the same a-la Rainbow six, I mean am I the only sap who bought the Xbox Live Vision Camera? DAMN.


Oh man, I wish 2k was going to have that, although you see players faces more in Basketball and Baseball anyways......

Excaliber
June 19th, 2007, 12:47 PM
Oh man, I wish 2k was going to have that, although you see players faces more in Basketball and Baseball anyways......

True but with more presentation, we do get to see the guys with their helmets off - I just like the idea....

thePLAGUE
June 19th, 2007, 12:51 PM
Why is this on my 2k/apf board....Go discuss Madden elsewhere...Jesus f.wak

2Nyce
June 19th, 2007, 01:21 PM
I honestly love Madden this years, looks silky smooth, but I fear that it will play the same way.

Another thing, APF 2k8 may not be on level with Madden in the graphics department, but trust me, they are getting there. I mean, how many installments did it take Madden to look the way APF 2k8 looks now? Around two I would say. I mean, Madden is still a great game, but I am dissapointed because they only step up their game when 2k Announces they want to make a game.

Also, take notice. I don't pick sides. I go for the game that I think will play better. And at the moment, that game is All Pro Football 2k8.

OldRamsFan
June 19th, 2007, 01:24 PM
am I the only sap who bought the Xbox Live Vision Camera? DAMN.

No, I'm a sap who bought that useless thing, also.

GhostRider
June 19th, 2007, 01:29 PM
No, I'm a sap who bought that useless thing, also.


It has some worth...although it would be nice if there were a few more female gamers;)

Excaliber
June 19th, 2007, 02:04 PM
It has some worth...although it would be nice if there were a few more female gamers;)

True that! :cool:

And to the person (2Nyce) that said Maddens Graphics are better, and that 2K will eventually catch up, check out this thread: http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122505

Screen vs. Screen comparison, Id say we win, but what do i know? ;)

I'll give it a Bump.

Prince_RIP4eVa
June 19th, 2007, 02:57 PM
yea, I think 2k's graphics are better... madden releases some nice looking screens, but they don't look that good in game