For all those who believe in 2k Sports.

[madehumble]

I just want to say that 2k is doing the right thing. I say this because they are not running their mouths or running all kind of media about this game because they want to do it right and approach marketing differently. Now remember this is not your average football game. This is something different and no one has marketed a game like this before, except for a computer game that came out about legends in the late 80's and it did not do well. It's David vs Goliath this time. So let's give 2k the benefit of doubt. Because I know they read these forums and see their fans turning on them. So ask yourselves, Why should they release media for the so call 2k fans who complain about everything. And also i'll tell you the difference between madden fans and 2k fans. Madden fans stick together and 2k fans stay at civil war. They are laughing at us on EA forums. My head is down because I am ashame of this forum. Where every thread is full of youngsters who every comment is a curse word. Trust me when I say this 2k will not let us down but the question now is will their fans let them down.

[DallasOwnsNFC]

And how is not releasing media good marketing? Outside of 2K fans, and Madden fans, no one knows much of this game.

[DallasOwnsNFC]

And I dont know what you mean by David vs. Goliath, because no matter what Madden will sell more by far, just the facts.

I do agree about the immature youngsters cursing and flipping out.

[QB_TARGET#24]

"And how is not releasing media good marketing? Outside of 2K fans, and Madden fans, no one knows much of this game."



Agrees with Dallas.

[madehumble]

I agree with you both, but like i've said before a legends came out before in the late 80's but it didn't sell well because of too much hype. We have to trust 2k on this one but I see your points also.

[QB_TARGET#24]

80's was also horrible development teams, and no where even near the technology we have now. There is no comparison.

[madehumble]

Well I don't know. The Nes came out in the 80's. Mario was born in the 80's. Zelda was born in the 80's. Ea was born in the 80's. Sega was born in the 80's. Oh and two little companies name Microsoft and Apple were also. But I see your point the 80's was a drag man.

[GhostRider]

And I dont know what you mean by David vs. Goliath, because no matter what Madden will sell more by far, just the facts.

I do agree about the immature youngsters cursing and flipping out.


2k is winning in basketball now, baseball(obviously), are tied with hockey.....NFL2k5 sold more than Madden on XBOX...I know Madden will sell more, but I think AP2k8 is going to surprise a lot of people with their sales.

[Kornnickel]

I just want to say that 2k is doing the right thing. I say this because they are not running their mouths or running all kind of media about this game because they want to do it right and approach marketing differently. Now remember this is not your average football game. This is something different and no one has marketed a game like this before, except for a computer game that came out about legends in the late 80's and it did not do well. It's David vs Goliath this time. So let's give 2k the benefit of doubt. Because I know they read these forums and see their fans turning on them. So ask yourselves, Why should they release media for the so call 2k fans who complain about everything. And also i'll tell you the difference between madden fans and 2k fans. Madden fans stick together and 2k fans stay at civil war. They are laughing at us on EA forums. My head is down because I am ashame of this forum. Where every thread is full of youngsters who every comment is a curse word. Trust me when I say this 2k will not let us down but the question now is will their fans let them down.

I hear that....I understand both sides....I can wait because complaing does nothing good for the community. On the other hand 2k should give us something. When 2k5 came out...they gave us tutorial videos to hold us over.

We as fans want a recent reason to talk about the game....we have to wait!

In two weeks I won't even be thinking about these forums again.:thumbsup:

[twsn88]

I just want to say that 2k is doing the right thing. I say this because they are not running their mouths or running all kind of media about this game because they want to do it right and approach marketing differently. Now remember this is not your average football game. This is something different and no one has marketed a game like this before, except for a computer game that came out about legends in the late 80's and it did not do well. It's David vs Goliath this time. So let's give 2k the benefit of doubt. Because I know they read these forums and see their fans turning on them. So ask yourselves, Why should they release media for the so call 2k fans who complain about everything. And also i'll tell you the difference between madden fans and 2k fans. Madden fans stick together and 2k fans stay at civil war. They are laughing at us on EA forums. My head is down because I am ashame of this forum. Where every thread is full of youngsters who every comment is a curse word. Trust me when I say this 2k will not let us down but the question now is will their fans let them down.

I aint one for complaining, but this is what 2k is doing, you walk into my deli store, im selling the deluxe BLT, im telling you its a sandwhich, you get to chose what you want with the sandwich, you have been hearing little about this thing, but keep in mind its what your eating but i tell you little about the information mainly because toni's that opened up across the street is a new store i dont want them stealing my ideas. keep in mind your buying this sandwich from me so your my customer now which means your in the store. but toni's is telling all the info and everything about their sandwiches and everything, the only people who know about my sandwich are the people who regulary come too. now im not telling you about my sandwich for the public to see it. So what is a customer to do? they will go to toni's across the street because mainly im not good at selling my stuff and keeping secrets. Thats not the customers fault, thats what they always do THEY ARE THE CUSTOMERS lol my job is to sell it to them their job is to process it and buy it or leave it. It's never a good idea in business to do that infact i'll call it what it really is, stupid. sometimes secrets are good and they help in companies, but sometimes in life we can hide so much from the thieves that sometimes we hide it from out very selves.

[Kornnickel]

I aint one for complaining, but this is what 2k is doing, you walk into my deli store, im selling the deluxe BLT, im telling you its a sandwhich, you get to chose what you want with the sandwich, you have been hearing little about this thing, but keep in mind its what your eating but i tell you little about the information mainly because toni's that opened up across the street is a new store i dont want them stealing my ideas. keep in mind your buying this sandwich from me so your my customer now which means your in the store. but toni's is telling all the info and everything about their sandwiches and everything, the only people who know about my sandwich are the people who regulary come too. now im not telling you about my sandwich for the public to see it. So what is a customer to do? they will go to toni's across the street because mainly im not good at selling my stuff and keeping secrets. Thats not the customers fault, thats what they always do THEY ARE THE CUSTOMERS lol my job is to sell it to them their job is to process it and buy it or leave it. It's never a good idea in business to do that infact i'll call it what it really is, stupid. sometimes secrets are good and they help in companies, but sometimes in life we can hide so much from the thieves that sometimes we hide it from out very selves.

2K knows what there doing....have faith:salute:

[Codenamemighty]

I just want to say that 2k is doing the right thing. I say this because they are not running their mouths or running all kind of media about this game because they want to do it right and approach marketing differently. Now remember this is not your average football game. This is something different and no one has marketed a game like this before, except for a computer game that came out about legends in the late 80's and it did not do well. It's David vs Goliath this time. So let's give 2k the benefit of doubt. Because I know they read these forums and see their fans turning on them. So ask yourselves, Why should they release media for the so call 2k fans who complain about everything. And also i'll tell you the difference between madden fans and 2k fans. Madden fans stick together and 2k fans stay at civil war. They are laughing at us on EA forums. My head is down because I am ashame of this forum. Where every thread is full of youngsters who every comment is a curse word. Trust me when I say this 2k will not let us down but the question now is will their fans let them down.



I feel where you are coming from. Your point is correct. This game was only made for the loyal fans. It seems that the loyalty will come and go. If one has true loyalty then one will wait and trust no matter how little info is reveal. I for once believe in 2kports and really all the complainning will not make the game come any sooner. It is good to anticipate an excitement, but excitement only exist when little is known...

[Kornnickel]

excitement only exist when little is known...

Quote of the day award goes to Codenamemighty:thumbsup:

[Prince_RIP4eVa]

Quote of the day award goes to Codenamemighty:thumbsup:

yes... if only it was true..

[QB_TARGET#24]

Quote of the day award goes to Codenamemighty:thumbsup:


QFT.

Not to start the war again, but I was a tad bit intrigued after seeing madden 08's vids on IGN...Then i saw the GAMEPLAY with KC and GB...god awful.

[Kornnickel]

yes... if only it was true..

ooh it's true...if they drop a trailer right now....you'd be giddy (myself included) but if they don't drop a trailer til Aug 18th. I'm still going to buy this game.

[Kornnickel]

QFT.

Not to start the war again, but I was a tad bit intrigued after seeing madden 08's vids on IGN...Then i saw the GAMEPLAY with KC and GB...god awful.

I think madden will be better than last year, but it's things in that game that make me wanna (puke :o).

Like how the guys jump over each other after plays. Seeing tackles from madden 01. I'll rent it and play for myself, but they are so lazy at times.

[Trevytrev11]

Unfortunately, they are limiting their customer base to 2K loyalists, when they could be luring others. How can anyone spread word of mouth info about this game when they next to nothing about it. People aren't going to spread the word of something they don't know about themselves.

So in reality, they are keeping us on the edge of our seat, but are driving away possible other customers. My guess is there are a lot more "other customers" than there are of us on these boards.

[Prince_RIP4eVa]

ooh it's true...if they drop a trailer right now....you'd be giddy (myself included) but if they don't drop a trailer til Aug 18th. I'm still going to buy this game.

It may be true with some things, but it's not true with videogames. No matter how much gameplay footage you see, it's not a replacement for actually playing the game.

[Kornnickel]

It may be true with some things, but it's not true with videogames. No matter how much gameplay footage you see, it's not a replacement for actually playing the game.

Being that this (gameplay and animation wise) is a better version of 2k5 without the NFL. They already sold me this game. Gameplay / Sig Styles....everything else is fluff.

I don't know but truly doubt this game will be worst than 2k5. And there's a big reason why nobody has played this game. Just the demo.

2k knows what there doing.....wait on it.....this game will turn heads...that's just me seeing the future!

[baandje]

My head is down because I am ashame of this forum.
You need to shut your computer off now.. that was way too much information-sharing.

[madehumble]

You need to shut your computer off now.. that was way too much information-sharing.

This is what i meant by the immature people on this forum. You can't say anything without these clowns responding in a childish way. But its cool banjo or baandje. You have prove my point now here comes the cursing .

[twsn88]

2K knows what there doing....have faith:salute:

lol dude i know, i was the one on here saying"2k knows something we dont" lol im just telling the truth.

[YungFresh]

I want media as bad as the rest of you but i will never lose faith in 2K know why cuz they have never let me down so why lose faith just cuz they arn't releasing info i want them to but are they probly not. But nothing is going to stop me from buying this game except the Police!

[ohjtbehaaave]

Hopefully now that "The BIGS" is out... 2K starts pushing the 2K8 FB game!
Maybe it's still to early to advertise for the Casual gamers... but at the very least put some gameplay movies out for the loyal 2K supporters to get a glimpse of.

Can this secret strategy still be because they don't want EA to see something? 2K8 FB is basically around 3 weeks away from release! Who gives a S#!T what EA does!

[YungFresh]

trueeeeeee

[GaMeQB11]

ok, if 2k has to resort to crazy marketing tactics to build excitement about the game...i as a smart consumer - am getting worried. A game should be able to sell on the strength of what it ACTUALLY is, not what we hype ourselves up to believe

[GaMeQB11]

I want media as bad as the rest of you but i will never lose faith in 2K know why cuz they have never let me down so why lose faith just cuz they arn't releasing info i want them to but are they probly not. But nothing is going to stop me from buying this game except the Police!
i hope there are just enough people who think like you to give 2k the funding to make another game, but not too much so that they will want to improve

[totalownership]

A game should be able to sell on the strength of what it ACTUALLY is
Finally someone gets it. I have pretty much refrained from posting here from the increased level of immaturity but I still read from time to time to see if any new developments occured.

If the game is good it will be known. PS3 owners will be buying this game in droves for the simple fact they don't have much else to play anyway. Once enough people start buying it on the 360 the word will get out about how this game plays. If it plays better than madden then the word will get out. "This game plays better than madden" and that'll be good enough. They still may want to advertise it some more but word will get out.

Also , the gamestops I go to have the fake Game cases with APF 2K8 on them so they are advertising it some.

[totalownership]

i hope there are just enough people who think like you to give 2k the funding to make another game, but not too much so that they will want to improve
That's one thing with 2K you don't have to worry about. They seem to always look to improve their games. Regardless of what the consumer says. Sometimes it works out great, other times not so great. But 2K's history is they don't need any outside motivation to improve their games, or at least attempt to.

[sportsgeist]

Well I don't know. The Nes came out in the 80's. Mario was born in the 80's. Zelda was born in the 80's. Ea was born in the 80's. Sega was born in the 80's. Oh and two little companies name Microsoft and Apple were also. But I see your point the 80's was a drag man.
Sega's history

They were around before the 80s

Founded in 1951 by American David Rosen, who moved permanently to Japan after WWII, Sega (originally dubbed Rosen Enterprises) started out as an art export company. By the late 1950's Rosen had moved on to importing instant photo booths and coin-op games from the United States. Rosen Enterprises continued to expand. In 1965 the company purchased a jukebox manufacturing company, which was then merged into Rosen Enterprises. Upon completion of the merger, the company was renamed to Sega, which was a contraction of "Service Games." Sega soon began producing their own coin-op games and competed directly against American imports. In 1970, Sega was bought by Gulf & Western. Throughout the late 70's and early 80's, Sega produced arcade games and software for early home videogame consoles, such as the Atari 2600 (http://www.classicgaming.com/museum/2600.shtml) and the ColecoVision (http://www.classicgaming.com/museum/colecovision.shtml). Sega wasn't exactly an industry powerhouse yet, but they had scored a few hits with games like Turbo (which was packaged with the ColecoVision's driving controller), Frogger, and Zaxxon. By this time Sega had an American division dubbed Sega Enterprises, which primarily dealt with console software. This division was sold to Bally, a large pinball and arcade game company, in 1983. Soon, Sega of Japan was sold to a group of Japanese investors, and Sega officially became Sega Enterprises, Ltd. Sega released a string of arcade hits in the mid-80's, strengthening its position in the U.S. market especially. Games like Out Run (1986), After Burner (1987), and Shinobi (1987) not only raked in cash for future arcade development, but also gave Sega a recognized stable of successful games that could be ported Sega produced home consoles.

[Oldkingsman]

Who gives a S#!T what EA does!Well,there are many maddenheads on this very forum that care,And thats fine.But when they knock down the 2k fans for wanting info or any word on the game is when i have BEEF.So yes i believe in 2k,until they put out a crap football game,which in my opinion has not happend yet,i will continue to support them,i know ea is doing something with their game,but i could careless,but this does not mean im going to go over to the ea web site and tell them about it,i wish both sides(ea,2k fanboys)would just let it ride and buy the game they want,without the bashing...yeah right.I try,But the minute you uplift 2k and say i hope this game is good,here come the haters,i dont go to the ea site,so this is what i see.Feel free to disagree,it's just my point of view,But getting back to that quote.Yes Some people do care what ea does,i just wish it wasnt here.

[madehumble]

Sega's history

They were around before the 80s

Founded in 1951 by American David Rosen, who moved permanently to Japan after WWII, Sega (originally dubbed Rosen Enterprises) started out as an art export company. By the late 1950's Rosen had moved on to importing instant photo booths and coin-op games from the United States. Rosen Enterprises continued to expand. In 1965 the company purchased a jukebox manufacturing company, which was then merged into Rosen Enterprises. Upon completion of the merger, the company was renamed to Sega, which was a contraction of "Service Games." Sega soon began producing their own coin-op games and competed directly against American imports. In 1970, Sega was bought by Gulf & Western. Throughout the late 70's and early 80's, Sega produced arcade games and software for early home videogame consoles, such as the Atari 2600 (http://www.classicgaming.com/museum/2600.shtml) and the ColecoVision (http://www.classicgaming.com/museum/colecovision.shtml). Sega wasn't exactly an industry powerhouse yet, but they had scored a few hits with games like Turbo (which was packaged with the ColecoVision's driving controller), Frogger, and Zaxxon. By this time Sega had an American division dubbed Sega Enterprises, which primarily dealt with console software. This division was sold to Bally, a large pinball and arcade game company, in 1983. Soon, Sega of Japan was sold to a group of Japanese investors, and Sega officially became Sega Enterprises, Ltd. Sega released a string of arcade hits in the mid-80's, strengthening its position in the U.S. market especially. Games like Out Run (1986), After Burner (1987), and Shinobi (1987) not only raked in cash for future arcade development, but also gave Sega a recognized stable of successful games that could be ported Sega produced home consoles.




I was talking about sega as a home console game maker man. i GO TO SCHOOL FOR GAME PROGRAMMING, this I already know sorry.

[APFLegends]

Before a month ago, i never came to this website. I bought 2k football games because

[Unforgiven]

2k is making a football game .. that's all I want from them, and that's what I am getting

[baandje]

My head is down because I am ashamed of this forum.
You need to shut your computer off now… that was way too much information-sharing.
This is what i meant by the immature people on this forum. You can't say anything without these clowns responding in a childish way. But its cool banjo or baandje. You have prove my point now here comes the cursing.
Fast-forward to June, 2015. madehumble wants to take his two kids – Billy (4) and Binky (2) – to watch the Ducks challenge for their 8th Stanley Cup in a row, but the kids just want to spend the day at the beach. Distraught, madehumble fires up the CPU, logs onto the 2K forum and types: “My head is down and I am ashamed that my kids are not true hockey fans…”

This is an public internet football discussion forum. What goes on between you and your psychologist needs to stay in the shrink’s office.

You come here moaning about your state of mind and your embarrassment (?) regarding this forum. And you get a negative response from the public internet football discussion forum members here. AND YOU WONDER WHY?

Interesting to note: you twice talked about the immature forum members and the cursing and name calling, yet you’re the one who ended up firing the first salvo, calling me Banjo. I like Banjo, BTW: has a twangy sort of musical ring to it for some reason...

Anyway, back to the topic at hand: I completely disagree with the sort of unquestioning, blind support for 2K that you’re endorsing. These are not the good old SEGA days. Since TT took over, 2K has released broken game after broken game: freeze issues, bugs, glitches, lousy programming and broken features. And what has their response been? Why, no response at all. They take no responsibility for their products, once they’ve been released.

With APF, they have completely dropped the ball, offering a product that 90% of the football gaming public will have little or no interest in due to the lack of modes and features. And that’s if they even hear about it, what with the unfathomable bungling of this game’s marketing.

If you’re going to hang your head in shame, hang it in realization that you’re blindly supporting a company that appears to have absolutely no respect for the gamers and consumers who purchase their products. Better yet, hold your head up high and just post your football observations. That’s all people here are interested in anyway.

[H4RDC0R3 JT]

If I was 2k I would just postpone the launch. They are obviously doing a poor job of promoting their game. I mean, isnt their whole strategy on the release being so soon is to try and sell a few more games before the EA nation takes over? Shouldn't they be trying to make us drool over a game and getting us excited. They aren't doing any of that. I thought 2k was for the fans and EA was for the zombies. I guess I was wrong. I canceled my pre-order and pre-ordered NCAA. Goodjob 2k, thanks for the non-hype.

[dophin26]

We all know anyone with the income to buy both will likely purchase more than one football title this year, be it NCAA, 2k8, Madden, etc. Last year I even bought Blitz and gave than a try for a day or two.

If you think Madden sucks year after year, you either bought the game, at least played it or have no basis for your arguement. I'd love to say it blows as well, but I have been playing 2k5 since it came out. My last Madden was 2005 and that went to the nephews when I gave them my PS2, so I can't really comment on it.

It just amazes me that people complain year after year about a title that they turn around and buy again... just to complain about it again.

It's like going to my mother's house and listening to her complain about all the same things week after week just to hear herself complain. They're both decent games and they all have flaws. If they didn't, we wouldn't need a new title the next year.

[baandje]

We all know anyone with the income to buy both will likely purchase more than one football title this year, be it NCAA, 2k8, Madden, etc. Last year I even bought Blitz and gave than a try for a day or two.

If you think Madden sucks year after year, you either bought the game, at least played it or have no basis for your arguement. I'd love to say it blows as well, but I have been playing 2k5 since it came out. My last Madden was 2005 and that went to the nephews when I gave them my PS2, so I can't really comment on it.

It just amazes me that people complain year after year about a title that they turn around and buy again... just to complain about it again.

It's like going to my mother's house and listening to her complain about all the same things week after week just to hear herself complain. They're both decent games and they all have flaws. If they didn't, we wouldn't need a new title the next year.
How is this related to the OP's thread topic? Sorry, but blind defending of EA on threads that have nothing to do with the subject at hand, is as bad as these "Let's blindly support 2K/stop your complaining, you whiners" threads.

Good for you that like Madden... whatever that has to do with anything.

[Lacarious]

Good for you that like Madden... whatever that has to do with anything.

The above is a prime example of a 2nd grader learning how to write a sentence.

If you're going to make a posting on how eloquent and intelligent you are.... you need to stop being so damn stupid from time to time.

[baandje]

The above is a prime example of a 2nd grader learning how to write a sentence.

If you're going to make a posting on how eloquent and intelligent you are.... you need to stop being so damn stupid from time to time.
Aw, someone's upset with me, and can't reply in his now-locked thread :)

[Lacarious]

Aw, someone's upset with me, and can't reply in his now-locked thread :)

upset is a gross overstatement, just returning the favor. Remember, you're the big brain on campus so please be consistent. We all aspire to be just like your text.

[baandje]

upset is a gross overstatement, just returning the favor. Remember, you're the big brain on campus so please be consistent. We all aspire to be just like your text.
Now c'mon... what I wrote doesn't take away from the fact that Afroman made some intelligent points, and you responded by insulting the guy. Apparently you don't like being told the truth. That's common reaction especially on internet forums, sure, but it's a lame reaction.

[Lacarious]

Now c'mon... what I wrote doesn't take away from the fact that Afroman made some intelligent points, and you responded by insulting the guy. Apparently you don't like being told the truth. That's common reaction especially on internet forums, sure, but it's a lame reaction.

uh oh.... looks like you didn't understand what was said.

[baandje]

uh oh.... looks like you didn't understand what was said.
Okay, good for you. You got that out of your system.

Back on topic now ;)

[madehumble]

Fast-forward to June, 2015. madehumble wants to take his two kids – Billy (4) and Binky (2) – to watch the Ducks challenge for their 8th Stanley Cup in a row, but the kids just want to spend the day at the beach. Distraught, madehumble fires up the CPU, logs onto the 2K forum and types: “My head is down and I am ashamed that my kids are not true hockey fans…”

This is an public internet football discussion forum. What goes on between you and your psychologist needs to stay in the shrink’s office.

You come here moaning about your state of mind and your embarrassment (?) regarding this forum. And you get a negative response from the public internet football discussion forum members here. AND YOU WONDER WHY?

Interesting to note: you twice talked about the immature forum members and the cursing and name calling, yet you’re the one who ended up firing the first salvo, calling me Banjo. I like Banjo, BTW: has a twangy sort of musical ring to it for some reason...

Anyway, back to the topic at hand: I completely disagree with the sort of unquestioning, blind support for 2K that you’re endorsing. These are not the good old SEGA days. Since TT took over, 2K has released broken game after broken game: freeze issues, bugs, glitches, lousy programming and broken features. And what has their response been? Why, no response at all. They take no responsibility for their products, once they’ve been released.

With APF, they have completely dropped the ball, offering a product that 90% of the football gaming public will have little or no interest in due to the lack of modes and features. And that’s if they even hear about it, what with the unfathomable bungling of this game’s marketing.

If you’re going to hang your head in shame, hang it in realization that you’re blindly supporting a company that appears to have absolutely no respect for the gamers and consumers who purchase their products. Better yet, hold your head up high and just post your football observations. That’s all people here are interested in anyway.

Thanks for your input. NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lacarious]

Okay, good for you. You got that out of your system.

Back on topic now ;)

just explaining facts fella

[baandje]

just explaining facts fella
Great. And you got the last word in too ;)

[Prince_RIP4eVa]

and the last word goes to...Prince_RIP4eVa..

WOOO!!

[baandje]

and the last word goes to...Prince_RIP4eVa..

WOOO!!
Okay by me :)

[Lacarious]

http://www.1380espn.com/a_newupdates/images/personalities/rome.jpg

[elprez98]

Lac and Prince why are you guys in every argument on this board. Speak your mind without the antics. You guys are ruining a lot of decent threads.

Locked.