2NYCE Final Team...No More Changes

[2Nyce]

Gold Stars
ILB D!ick Butkus
CB Rod Woodson

Silver Stars
RB Roger Craig
WR Andre Reed
FS Jack Tatum

Bronze Players
QB Jeff Hostetler
T Joe Jacoby
G Guy Mcintyre
DT Dan Saleaumua
OLB Carl Banks
OLB Otis Wilson


Thanks to some help from fellow users, I have completed my team. Those who wish to copy my team or use it as a template, feel free to.

I will have an in-depth analysis later on tonight.

Thanks to all who have helped (Decider, Prince, Plaugue). I appreciate the help.

[perryjl]

Gold:
Mike Singletary ILB
Reggie White DE

Silver:
Randall Cunningham QB
Chuck Bednarik OLB
**** Anderson SS

Bronze:
Alvin Harper WR
Pete Metzelaars TE
Dave Butz DT
Clyde Simmons DE
Albert Lewis CB
Terry McDaniel CB



Bring it on.........

[oubobcat]

That is a scary Defense you have there 2NYCE.... no one will want to send their Receiver over the middle

[the decider13]

Masterful team 2nyce, i might be using a team very similar to this when the game drops. IMO best team yet, of all the teams posted.

[the decider13]

actually this should be a template for west coast offence...with strong defence

[Spatta04]

Lets battle.

Gold
Earl Campbell RB
Jack Lambert ILB

Silver
Dermontti Dawson C
Len Dawson QB
Irving Fryar WR

Bronze
Korey Stringer T
Tony Boselli T
Albert Lewis CB
Tom Brookshier CB
Leon Lett DT
Yancy Thigpen WR

[2Nyce]

Alright guys, stay tuned. In depth analysis will come soon.

[thePLAGUE]

Substitute one bronze OLB for a WR or TE...For the most part, ILB D!ick Butkus
and OLB Otis Wilson will be able to handle most runs...Hey am paranoid about the running game us well but 2 OLB might be a little too much since you only need one at a time...Nice balanced team.

[2Nyce]

Offense
QB Jeff Holstetler
RB Roger Craig
WR Andre Reed
OT Joe Jacoby
OG Guy Mcintyre

Offensive Line: Run Heavy
Receivers: Possession
The California Cougars will be a powerhouse running team, with Roger Craig as their running back. Roger, also known as catfish, is the main piece of the offense and will definitely get an amazing amount of touches. Though, most believe that you need a great offensive to be successful in the run and that is correct.

Two main players from the line are offensive tackle, Joe Jacoby and Guy Micentyre. Jacoby, will be the one blocking for the run while Guy will be blocking for the pass, but they are skilled at both. So, there shouldn't be any problem allowing sacks and tackles behind the line.

The traditional QB to WR combo will be effective on this team, especially when the run fails. You have Jeff Hostetler who has the ability to change the whole game in one drive and Andre Reed who has some of the best hands in his tier. Andre will be most dangerous on those short passes with his speed and agility but he will also be used down field when needed. Hostetler isn't quite the best quarter back but he is certainly good enough to get the job done. He can be precise at times but at others, he can be like a machine gun...not accurate but good enough.


Defense
FS Jack Tatum
CB Rod Woodson
OLB Otis Wilson
MLB D!ick Butkus
OLB Carl Banks
DT Dan Saleaumua

Defensive Scheme: 3-3-5
Defensive Line: Run Stopping
Linebackers: Balanced
Secondary: Pass Coverage

Most teams will have a problem running...AND passing the ball against the Cougars' Defense. With the great unstoppable force of their linebackers, the running backs won't be getting anywhere. With Rod Woodson and Jack Tatum defending the pass, the receivers won't be getting anywhere. With Big Dan rushing powering his way through the line, neither will your running back or quarterback be doing anything productive. This defense is just built to destroy.

With Carl Banks, D!ick Butkus, and Otis Wilson as the linebackers, most teams will have a hard time running through them. They might try and run up the middle but only to get destroyed by Butkus and Big Dan. They might try to bounce it to the outside, but only to meet up with either Carl Banks or Otis Wilson for a tea party. With Butkus cover the middle of the field on the pass and the run, it'd be wise not to cross eyes with him. With amazing linebackers on the outside, don't think about bouncing it outside the tackles unless you'd like to be hammered. So, with this linebacker corp, most teams will have a very difficult time running the ball.

So, you figured out you can't run the ball and you think you can pass your way through...nope. Think again. Best bet will be to quit now while you can. Do you think you can pass to your super star receiver? Think again. With Rod Woodson covering him tight and Jack Tatum covering the field, you might not wanting to be throwing in their direction if you want to snap the ball one more time. The secondary will be a pass coverage team so if you plan on throwing to anybody's direction, I suggest your fullback...but then again, Butkus will be covering him and you don't want him to sit the season out, right? Ha. The defense has beaten you into submission. Best you can do is lob the ball up and hope it isn't deflected or intercepted because there won't be anyway to score on this defense.






Guys, I am not trash talking by the way. I just thought it'd be interesting if I did it from that perspective.

[2Nyce]

Substitute one bronze OLB for a WR or TE...For the most part, ILB D!ick Butkus
and OLB Otis Wilson will be able to handle most runs...Hey am paranoid about the running game us well but 2 OLB might be a little too much since you only need one at a time...Nice balanced team.

Well, that way they won't have a chance to run either way but up the middle where they'd get clobbered by D!ick Butkus.

Also, I am fine with one WR, seeing as Craig could be used as a receiving back out of the backfield. Not only that, but I am sure the generic receivers will be good enough to make some good catches.

[thePLAGUE]

fair enough

[2Nyce]

Plague, thanks for helping me shape my team btw. Much appreciated it.

[Reed#20]

Are you sure you want to run the 3-3-5 Nickel in this game as a base defense? Everything read very well until you said that. The game most likely will not have the 3-3-5 Stack since that is a College/High School defense, although Donnie Henderson did employ it once in the Jets playoff game against Pittsburg a couple of years ago. Haven't seen it since then though.

[2Nyce]

Well, I like the way it is.

I mean, 3 front linemen are good enough since my linebacker corp is great and will most def be a big help on the run

and the 5 DBs is great to stop the pass.

2 CBs on the line, and 2 CBs roving around and one FS in the middle

What's wrong with the 3-3-5?

If not, I'll see the other formations,

[2Nyce]

Anybody suggests any defensive strategies?

Also, someone mentioned on another forum that a scrambling quarterback can easily tear apart my defense but I am sure it wont.

Why? Because of my outside linebackers, I think they are fast enough.

Anybody agree?

[sweetbooness]

There is a reason most pro teams use a 4-3 under or a 3-4.

I have seen the 4-4 in the playbooks. That is a college D also, but it does allow you to put a helmet in every gap;however, it leaves you open for four verticals.

[Reed#20]

Well my only thing was let's say 3-3-5 Nickel is your base defense. But then let's say the guy you are playing runs his base offense through a formation like the Strong Power I. I don't like your chances in 2k football with that. Now Madden that's a different story. You can run 3-3-5 in CG madden and shutdown every run from any formation. It is also somewhat successful on NG Madden. But this aint Madden. Strong Power I will destroy 3-3-5 Nickel here. Your Nickel Back will get eaten alive by the FB or TE out of the backfield on a block. He can't stand up at the point of attack against those style of offenses.

Now with I Pro you'd have a good chance. Just man the NB up on the TE. But if they go with a power rushing attack you'd be in a world of hurt IMO.

[sweetbooness]

Nice job Reed. That is how you attack six in the box.

[Jack Hammer]

my final team:

Gold:
Mike Singletary ILB
Derrick Thomas OLB

Silver:
Lem Barney CB
Roger Craig HB
Don Maynard WR

Bronze:
Steve Grogan QB
Dan Saleaumua DT
Dexter Manley DE
Clyde Simmons DE
Albert Lewis CB
Charlie Waters SS

Balanced O-line and all other fill-in generics

[redbull75]

Anybody suggests any defensive strategies?

Also, someone mentioned on another forum that a scrambling quarterback can easily tear apart my defense but I am sure it wont.

Why? Because of my outside linebackers, I think they are fast enough.

Anybody agree?
This really is a great team you've put together. Nice job. I wouldn't worry about the scrambling quarterback, though I'm sure you'll see Randall enough that this question will be answered soon for you. I do believe your OLB's should be able to contain, and if they start going to the scramble too often (which could happen given your coverage and what should be a decent pass rush) you could bring Tatum up to spy and lay a couple licks down. I think eventually the level of punishment you dish out will not be worth the 6 yds they gain. If the playbooks are as deep as we suspect they will be, there might be some great nickel packages that could serve as a base D and suit your personnel well. I would gladly be a spectator to one of your games; I can appreciate a well thought out roster like that. Look forward to meeting up online.

[redbull75]

2Nyce, regarding those who say they can run on you with big formations against a 3 man front, that depends on their personnel up there, I think if you blitz gaps just often enough a generic lineman should get beat to bring up enough 3rd and 4's to fall right into your strengths, especially with the OLBs sometimes coming in hard off the tackles.... Damn we are gonna see some great battles

[2Nyce]

Redbull, thanks.

I truly appreciate your comments.

What's your GamerTag?

[Weezy]

Your thread title should be, " No More Changes... Until the game comes out."

[2Nyce]

You're right, Weezy.

But I doubt my team will change at all, I mean I know how the legends will play. Not that I have played the game or anything, it's just that I feel they will be good.

Also, I am thinkin of starting up a suggestion thread for teams.

[redbull75]

Redbull, thanks.

I truly appreciate your comments.

What's your GamerTag?
Rebs619
Lookin' forward to it

[2Nyce]

Well my only thing was let's say 3-3-5 Nickel is your base defense. But then let's say the guy you are playing runs his base offense through a formation like the Strong Power I. I don't like your chances in 2k football with that. Now Madden that's a different story. You can run 3-3-5 in CG madden and shutdown every run from any formation. It is also somewhat successful on NG Madden. But this aint Madden. Strong Power I will destroy 3-3-5 Nickel here. Your Nickel Back will get eaten alive by the FB or TE out of the backfield on a block. He can't stand up at the point of attack against those style of offenses.

Now with I Pro you'd have a good chance. Just man the NB up on the TE. But if they go with a power rushing attack you'd be in a world of hurt IMO.


So what defense would you recommend?

Anybody?

[BIG_45_12_ROB]

Earl Campbell
Gale Sayers
Bart Star
Jay Novecek
Drew Pearson
Dan Saleaumua
Dexter Manley
Robert Brazile
Chris Speilman
Solomon Wilcots
Tom Brookshier
and that is the legends we have to choose from, not assuming we can’t add created legends.
tell me what you think

[Reed#20]

So what defense would you recommend?

Anybody?


I think you have the setup to get away with running a 3-4. Wilson and Banks are not grade A pass rushers but they should get the job done.

[2Nyce]

No offense dude...but you could of made your own thread.

Anyways, you won't do good on the defensive side. I mean, you wasted 2 gold picks on offense and that pretty much says it all.

[2Nyce]

I think you have the setup to get away with running a 3-4. Wilson and Banks are not grade A pass rushers but they should get the job done.

Yep, I was thinking that but I felt I needed another LB, but I forgot about the generic players, lmao.

Also, thanks. BTW, Banks and Wilson are my run stoppers for the outside. I will just let my secondary worry about the passing.

[BIG_45_12_ROB]

haha yea, while earl campbell gets better with every yard he pounds out, i can use sayers on the outside, and then when playaction comes in effect go deep to pearson or go over the middle with lethal novacek. and don't forget starr is great in clutch and in the 4th quarter, just remember the ice bowl, even though im still ****ed about that, this time he has campbell and sayers on his side, along with pearson, one of the biggest deep threats in the game, and JAY N, one of the greatest blocking/ recieving TEs of all time, im telling you its going to be just as hard to stop that offense as it is to score on the defense. because the offense is going to take up as much time as possible grinding it out

[BIG_45_12_ROB]

besides this is one of my many combinations, i can always use Staubach as my QB and then take a gold defensive player and then use silver defensive players, and take tony canadeo another grinder, and then tom rathmen at full back and use him as a reciever a couple good bronze lineman and 3 good defensive bronze players.

[BIG_45_12_ROB]

so how old are you anyways 2Nyce, you seem to think your defense is stacked, yet when you come against two runners like campbell and sayers, im afraid your not going to have a chance in hell, because its going to be a ball control game, and with starr behind the snap compared to your qb your toast

[YuKant S3aM3]

why to spam the thread BIG_45

[BIG_45_12_ROB]

I didn't spam the thread, i typed very long, and waited.

[redbull75]

So what defense would you recommend?

Anybody?
Why not just a 4-3 man/zone, bring tatum up and take your chances....remember the opponents not gonna have golds everywhere on O. I'm not here as your personal moral support, 2Nyce, lol, but I believe if someone wants to turn into a one dimensional power I run the rock type O, well then you've done your job, and like I said before they'll get into a bunch of 3rd and 4's. Personally I don't mind if my opponents always in a 3rd and 4.......you know the reason I'm putting thought into your lineup is that I'd come up with a similar way to disperse my personnel- we don't have all the same players but my stars are distributed about the same, position wise.

[the decider13]

I think you have the setup to get away with running a 3-4. Wilson and Banks are not grade A pass rushers but they should get the job done.

3-4 is good for the players you have, you can use the OLBs to get some extra pressure on the QB, and i know that sometimes im gonna take my chances and blitz tatum to see if i can get a BIG hit on the QB. I like to mix up blitzes, keep the team guessing, then that opens it up to fake blitzing to freak the defence out:) .

[2Nyce]

so how old are you anyways 2Nyce, you seem to think your defense is stacked, yet when you come against two runners like campbell and sayers, im afraid your not going to have a chance in hell, because its going to be a ball control game, and with starr behind the snap compared to your qb your toast


Ok... I never said my D was stacked. Other people said it was stacked. And age has nothing to do with this.

1.) Umm, no need to make numerous posts right after another, just edit your first one.

2.) You're kidding right? I will I have no chance in hell? BECAUSE you picked cambell and sayers? Ha. Trust me, the score will still be close. I am not guaranteeing a win but you seem very confident of that you will destroy me. Another thing, my QB vs your QB isn't a threat to MY quarterback. If I am correct, your QB doesn't play defense. So, I have no idea why you put that info in. And lastly, you also need to know how to call the plays and on what situation.

3.) Why would you post your gameplan? Seems pretty dumb. Also, Play Action won't hurt because I won't be doing a lot of blitzes.

[2Nyce]

Why not just a 4-3 man/zone, bring tatum up and take your chances....remember the opponents not gonna have golds everywhere on O. I'm not here as your personal moral support, 2Nyce, lol, but I believe if someone wants to turn into a one dimensional power I run the rock type O, well then you've done your job, and like I said before they'll get into a bunch of 3rd and 4's. Personally I don't mind if my opponents always in a 3rd and 4.......you know the reason I'm putting thought into your lineup is that I'd come up with a similar way to disperse my personnel- we don't have all the same players but my stars are distributed about the same, position wise.

Thanks man. I seriously can not wait to play you. You seem like a good opponent.

[2Nyce]

Come to think of it, this will be my final team.

So once again, thanks to everyone who helped.

[the decider13]

np 2nyce...if you can handle a little lag, I'll play you and I'll prolly get stomped lol

[fatman]

My offense against your defense would be very interesting to see what happens;

Here's my offense only:

Gold: Dan Marino, Shannon Sharpe

Silver: Tony Canadeo

Bronze: Rocket Ismail, Mick Tingelhoff (c), Steve Wisniewski(g), Tony Boselli (t)

The guard and tackle will both be on the left(blind) side of Marino

[2Nyce]

Your right, but your defense would be a breeze to blow through.

An Offense Team vs Defense Team would result in a loss for the Offense team.

Why? Because no matter how bad my offense is (which it isn't at all), your defense can be worse and I can score points both defensively and offensively.

[Spatta04]

I have two teams I'm toying with the new one I made is all offense gold and silver. then the 6bronze for Defense. I'm worried if I have a gold defensive player he will just be avoided I have a balanced D it could do alright as my offense would have= Steve Young Jerry Rice, Irving Fryar, a silver RB that can catch and Herman Moore 3good WR with a good QB and a RB that can run and catch.

[2Nyce]

np 2nyce...if you can handle a little lag, I'll play you and I'll prolly get stomped lol


Lol, who knows?

I haven't played the game in ages.

Also, what's your team look like?

[2Nyce]

I have two teams I'm toying with the new one I made is all offense gold and silver. then the 6bronze for Defense. I'm worried if I have a gold defensive player he will just be avoided I have a balanced D it could do alright as my offense would have= Steve Young Jerry Rice, Irving Fryar, a silver RB that can catch and Herman Moore 3good WR with a good QB and a RB that can run and catch.


Your offensive team would then be one of the best I've seen. But, you need an offensive line. But it is still great.

Btw, if you ever need any help thinking of a good play, let me know man.

[the decider13]

Lol, who knows?

I haven't played the game in ages.

Also, what's your team look like?

Gold: Emmitt smith(HB) , Ronnie Lott(FS)

Silver:Andre Reed(WR), Harry carson(MLB), Lester Hayes(CB)

Bronze: Bernie Kosar(QB), Tony Bosseli(T),Joe Jacoby(T), Fridge(DT), Rocket Ismail(WR and KR), Dexter Manley(DE)

[2Nyce]

I like this team a lot. I mean you got a good line, a good QB with great options, a phenomenal back and a good secondary. Your D-line is good, but and linebacker corp is better because of Harry Carson.

All in all...your team is pretty balanced.

[the decider13]

Thank you :)

I thought about switching Carson for Roger Craig, and Emmitt for Jack Lambert

But that would be more of a west coast offence with the recieving rb. Still might do it though

[Spatta04]

I'm not really worried to about the O-line I can do shotgun with quick recievers and I pick young cause he can scramble out of the pocket.

[2Nyce]

I'm not really worried to about the O-line I can do shotgun with quick recievers and I pick young cause he can scramble out of the pocket.

Shotgun the whole game?

[the decider13]

OOOO...Im gonna do that sig too 2nyce.

Well with my team obviously lol. Bet you start a fad ;)

[2Nyce]

Yeah, I know, lol.

But you're cool, so you can do it with me. :d

[the decider13]

I had to make my golds orange...couldnt read the yellow without hurtin my eyes lol

[2Nyce]

I had to change the font to make it legible and change the silver to gray.

[the decider13]

yea i cant read my silvers either!! grrr....im gonna pick a random color, people will figure it out lol