Take a knee please

[Phenomegirl]

Is it that confusing? Up by 19? Under 2 minutes left? I'm not using my time outs, because well THE GAME IS OVER. Take a knee please.

Negative feedback every time from me. Even if you played a fair game.

[brownster14]

oops, i just ran the fullback for 3 straight plays, i would rather have that done to me then kneel........

[guava9]

SHE (phenom girl) only wants you to knee so she can catch a glimpse of the QB's bulge in real time

[Rodskin744]

lol. hilarious thread. leaving negative feedback because they continue to play is lame. just put your controller down and leave the room. when you return the game is over. not everybody takes their foot off the throttle. i do agree that its effed up... but i would not give negative feedback ONLY for that. Give negative feedback because the person was a true douche.. not because they're probably tryin to boost their rankings with passing or running yards.

[vicious776]

I think you're being a tad bit unrealistic (OP). I'll take a knee when there is less than one minute, and my opponent doesn't have any time outs. How was your opponent supposed to know that you wouldn't call a time out? If it were me, I would just run dive plays. Not to run up the score, but to make sure that if you do use your timeouts, I can maybe get a 1st and keep running out the clock. I'd rather do that than lose a yard or two.

But like I said, with under a min and if the opponent doesn't have any timeouts (or maybe one), then by all means, you're supposed to kneel it...

[Phenomegirl]

lol. hilarious thread. leaving negative feedback because they continue to play is lame. just put your controller down and leave the room. when you return the game is over. not everybody takes their foot off the throttle. i do agree that its effed up... but i would not give negative feedback ONLY for that. Give negative feedback because the person was a true douche.. not because they're probably tryin to boost their rankings with passing or running yards.

No. Even running up the middle to "boost" your stats and rankings is poor sportsmanship IMO and that's the rating I give. Not to mention it's shear stupidity.

I had someone run three plays and kick a field goal to end a game when I had not time outs left and taking a knee twice would have ended the game. I sent a message afterwords saying "good game other than not taking a knee at the end" and got a response of "I'M STILL TRYING TO FIND ALL THE PLAYS". All the knucklehead had to do is NOT PICK A DAMN PLAY and let the clock run down. He was able to find the FG play so he got the appropriate rating.

I am quick to give positive ratings, but this I find to be fairly obnoxious.

[Phenomegirl]

I think you're being a tad bit unrealistic (OP). I'll take a knee when there is less than one minute, and my opponent doesn't have any time outs. How was your opponent supposed to know that you wouldn't call a time out?

Well, you would think peoples first clue would be when you've not called a time out and have let clock now run down to under a minute.:) Especially if the other person has say a 19 point lead. They're probably safe to take another knee and not risk losing the game.

[xrams]

Is it that confusing? Up by 19? Under 2 minutes left? I'm not using my time outs, because well THE GAME IS OVER. Take a knee please.

Negative feedback every time from me. Even if you played a fair game. y'all know Phenom is right....:thumbsup: take a knee when you know there's no more game to be played....:(

PS... what's up Phenom.... what sys. you running..???

EDIT: just saw your (XBL) tag...?!?!:rolleyes:

[Witasick21]

Uhhh, apf was made so that gamers would have a fun time playing it. Where is the fun in wasting 2 minutes of gametime by kneeling. I've been in your situation many times and will be many more but that doesn't mean I'm going to ruin the other person's experience by telling them to kneel.

[bigfnjoe96]

Totally agree with PG. You've won the game already. Take a knee enjoy your win & move-on. Trying to pad your stats after the game is out reach, is poor sportsmanship & desrves @ minimum a NEUTRAL FEEDBACK

[rockhead262]

aren't you the same one to say killing the clock is also un sportsmanlike.

[vicious776]

Well, you would think peoples first clue would be when you've not called a time out and have let clock now run down to under a minute.:) Especially if the other person has say a 19 point lead. They're probably safe to take another knee and not risk losing the game.

I don't know. In my opinion (and I try to play as sim as possible), I think one should only take a knee when you know for a fact that it will win you the game (i.e. 40 seconds left and the opponent has NO timeouts). Even if you didn't take one, I would still have run dive plays. Not to run up the score or improve stats, but because it's dangerous to take knees when you're opponent still has a time out. I would rather run out the clock by gaining 3-5 yards.

Although, I do agree that people should kneel when the victor is already known.

[Phenomegirl]

y'all know Phenom is right....:thumbsup: take a knee when you know there's no more game to be played....:(

PS... what's up Phenom.... what sys. you running..???

EDIT: just saw your (XBL) tag...?!?!:rolleyes:

Don't you roll your eyes at my XBL GT xrams!:)

[Numbski]

y'all know Phenom is right....:thumbsup: take a knee when you know there's no more game to be played....:(

PS... what's up Phenom.... what sys. you running..???

EDIT: just saw your (XBL) tag...?!?!:rolleyes:

A few more familiar faces coming back. Good to see. :)

[Numbski]

Don't you roll your eyes at my XBL GT xrams!:)

I didn't know it was y ou at first either. Is there a reference I'm missing in it?

[Phenomegirl]

I didn't know it was y ou at first either. Is there a reference I'm missing in it?

I don't know about missing a reference, but today, just for xrams the VRWC can stand for Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.:p

[OldRamsFan]

Is it that confusing? Up by 19? Under 2 minutes left? I'm not using my time outs, because well THE GAME IS OVER. Take a knee please.

Negative feedback every time from me. Even if you played a fair game.

I agree, and I've never even played an online game.

[Xboxing2006]

The 'sim' thing to do in that situation is to put in your backups and let them run a few plays. You should only sit on it if it will end the game with that possession.

[birdfry]

phenom you are 100% right and fair with your ratings.
I don't do that to anyone and don't expect it done to me.

[kcxiv]

its called leaving bad feedback for unsportsman like conduct. If someone tries to run up the score, they deserve it. I understand its my job to stop them, but if the game is over, its already over. I wont do that to anyone. I dont care how cheesy they play me.

[kcxiv]

A few more familiar faces coming back. Good to see. :)
Yep, i am 1-2 against her. i should honestly be 0-3, i beat her on some fluke play at the end of our 3rd game. For some reason, i just cannot move the ball against her. ****es me off. haha

[Phenomegirl]

Yep, i am 1-2 against her. i should honestly be 0-3, i beat her on some fluke play at the end of our 3rd game. For some reason, i just cannot move the ball against her. ****es me off. haha

I couldn't believe the last play of that last game! Good game though. One of the funnest I've played yet.

[kcxiv]

I couldn't believe the last play of that last game! Good game though. One of the funnest I've played yet.
Same here, when you scored with under a minute left, i was cussing at the tv. haha

[guilty comrade]

i was up by 20 something the other night against someone and i was on like their 3 yd line and just took a knee with under 2 mins left. i didnt see the point of running up the score.

[sportsgeist]

Is it that confusing? Up by 19? Under 2 minutes left? I'm not using my time outs, because well THE GAME IS OVER. Take a knee please.

Negative feedback every time from me. Even if you played a fair game.

I understand what you're talking about but the problem for me is you lose yards from doing that. If I lose any yards it because you earned it. Since you give negative feedback for it then we'll never play each other even though that situaton may never come up in a game we might have played.

[kcxiv]

You lose maybe 4 yards tops. Thats hardly going to hurt anything. Its just not good sportsmanship. If you did it to me, i would give the same rating. I am not saying i am RnS and claim to be the most sim'est (thats not a word)but i play fair and with great sportsmanship.

[FADED]

Totally agree with PG. You've won the game already. Take a knee enjoy your win & move-on. Trying to pad your stats after the game is out reach, is poor sportsmanship & desrves @ minimum a NEUTRAL FEEDBACK


its called leaving bad feedback for unsportsman like conduct. If someone tries to run up the score, they deserve it. I understand its my job to stop them, but if the game is over, its already over. I wont do that to anyone. I dont care how cheesy they play me.

i agree 100% with phenome and what my 2 old skool homies right here said. thas just BS trying 2 pad stats and not just taking a knee. they would get tha same rating phenome gave them from me also.

[guilty comrade]

i could careless about stats. all i care about is winning the game. to each their own. if you want to run up the score against me, fine. i would just rather take the knee and move on.

[bigtymer0056]

Agree with most of you all. Your up big, you should take a knee. But im alittle more forgiving. If you actually run out the clock(i.e. keep the clock moving while running as few plays as possible) and keep the ball on the ground, i won't mind and it won't affect the rating. However, if you pass (only excusable if its 3rd down), forget about it. Thats just poor sportsmanship.

[Lacarious]

phenomegirl... if you trip on stuff like that.. you're taking the game too serious. If you lost... you lost... you shouldn't worry about some dude still playing... i would take a knee too but some dudes find that boring. no need to go all crazy on them. just don't take it serious... and move on to the next game.

[baandje]

I don't know. In my opinion (and I try to play as sim as possible), I think one should only take a knee when you know for a fact that it will win you the game (i.e. 40 seconds left and the opponent has NO timeouts). Even if you didn't take one, I would still have run dive plays. Not to run up the score or improve stats, but because it's dangerous to take knees when you're opponent still has a time out. I would rather run out the clock by gaining 3-5 yards.

Although, I do agree that people should kneel when the victor is already known.
Yup. Under two minutes could still = time for the other person to get the ball back. You take a knee only when you know you can run the clock out completely. That's how they do it in the NFL = sim.

[Tuboware67]

Yea there is no reason to boost stats, and this is coming from a player ranked in the top 60, so yea, just be polite and take a knee.

[PLAYBOY8869]

I would kneel at front of phenomgirl just to make her wet her panties. U PERVERT!

[mike0187]

If I think the other person isn't going to use their timeouts I will kneel the ball starting with around 1:30 on the clock....and if I'm up more than two scores I will usually just run dives the entire fourth quarter and punt the ball back giving them a chance to stay in the game. If it ends up costing me a game at some point, oh well, but I like to keep things interesting and make sure everyone is having fun.

[baandje]

If it ends up costing me a game at some point, oh well, but I like to keep things interesting and make sure everyone is having fun.
Wow, a grownup. Most of the kids around here are consumed with WINNING - It's not cheese if you can't stop me! LOL.

[GettinJuggy90]

This is the dumbest cr@p I have ever heard. Bad feedback to peopel who keep on playign even when they are up?

Most people who are up by more than 2 scores dont just kneel, they have no way of losing so they continue to play and get stats up for leaderboards.

I'll tell you one thing - i dont glitch, I dont cheese, I dont act like a jerk, im a polite person, but when im up by 14+ and i have teh ball with 1-2 minutes left, you should bet im still passing and running the ball to get stats up.

if you cant stop me, its yoru own fault, i should be up by more than 14 if you cant stop me anyways.

deal with it kid.

we live in a world thats more COMPTON THAN COSBY. sorry

[baandje]

we live in a world thats more COMPTON THAN COSBY. sorry
We do? Or you do?

It's not the world that's this or that, in other words. It's people. Like you, sounds like.

[wowitsbob]

If i am up by 19 i will be kicking a fg everytime. It's the perfect time to practice those 50yd gamewinning fg's. sure i could take a knee but when else can u try a long fg like that. Plus another benifit is once i try it u get the ball back and can work on your OFF cus if u were down that much then u could use the practice. so we both get something useful out the last 2 mins. If u give me a bad feedback its not a big deal to me cus if i beat u that bad i really have no reason to play u again anyway....

[Phenomegirl]

phenomegirl... if you trip on stuff like that.. you're taking the game too serious. If you lost... you lost... you shouldn't worry about some dude still playing... i would take a knee too but some dudes find that boring. no need to go all crazy on them. just don't take it serious... and move on to the next game.

I don't take it too seriously at all. IMO, people who are concerned with padding their stats when it's obvious they can end the game by taking a knee or two are the people taking it too seriously.

PS-I can handle losing. I was losing by 19 in the game that inspired this thread and ready to give positive feed back until the person kept calling plays (one pass down field as well) with only 30 seconds on the clock (I hadn't used any timeouts) when they could have taken a knee at that point.

[Phenomegirl]

Yup. Under two minutes could still = time for the other person to get the ball back. You take a knee only when you know you can run the clock out completely. That's how they do it in the NFL = sim.

True when the game is still contested. I've seen many times, though, where a team has time outs and doesn't use them (down by enough that they know it's pointless; game is NOT contested anymore) and the winning team (not as easily confused as some xbl gamers:cool: ) takes a knee.

[Phenomegirl]

If i am up by 19 i will be kicking a fg everytime. It's the perfect time to practice those 50yd gamewinning fg's. sure i could take a knee but when else can u try a long fg like that. Plus another benifit is once i try it u get the ball back and can work on your OFF cus if u were down that much then u could use the practice. so we both get something useful out the last 2 mins. If u give me a bad feedback its not a big deal to me cus if i beat u that bad i really have no reason to play u again anyway....

Oh please. I've beat many top 100 and top 50 players and then lost to people ranked 2000+. I've beat people on my friends list by a solid margin and then lost to them the next time.

Not playing someone more than once just because you beat them by 19 one time is almost as stupid as being obsessed padding stats in a video game.

[sportsgeist]

I don't take it too seriously at all. IMO, people who are concerned with padding their stats when it's obvious they can end the game by taking a knee or two are the people taking it too seriously.

PS-I can handle losing. I was losing by 19 in the game that inspired this thread and ready to give positive feed back until the person kept calling plays (one pass down field as well) with only 30 seconds on the clock (I hadn't used any timeouts) when they could have taken a knee at that point.

I don't do it to pad stats. The funny part is that I don't like it when the other person takes a knee either. Even if they're up by a whole bunch of points and I have no chance of coming back. I guess thats just me though. Maybe if VC came up with a let the clock run out animation where players start talking to each other and/or start walking off the field. Like someone said earlier its boring. theres no commentary or anything to fill the dead space.

[Mike Williams]

Your life is so exciting, that for 2mins and some change, you can't let the time tick?

That's almost unbelievable.

[Gunther]

Seems like every time IM in a situation that the game is over but my opponent has 3 times out if I I take a knee they always start calling their time outs. :(
annoying

[xrams]

A few more familiar faces coming back. Good to see. :)
what's up Numb.... I've really never left... It was just that when 2K8 was announced every knucklehead from here to timbuktu.... decided to join the forum, there is nothing wrong with that but there was a new thread every 3mins..... however, now it's just starting to calm down whereby I don't have to search 15pg. just to see a reply.....:eek:

PS... but when I saw Phemon's thread.... you know... just had to say some ****....:D

[lnin0]

I agree with the OP that if the game is out of reach then get it over.

However, if someone is trying to pad their stats they will usually just keep going to their go to guy for a big play in the last few. You should know if this is a WR or RB by this late in the game so stack up against them.

If they are going to go to a RB stack the line (at least for 1st and 2nd) and blitz them. If their go to is a WR double team them. Use your time outs and force them to push for the big play because the odds are in your favor of an INT or turnover on downs if they do. Then when you get the ball back you can take a knee OR if they use their TOs here (really annoying) go for the big play against them.

They can't really complain that you are still playing them hard since they are the ones up still doing it. If they score on you big deal - you were loosing anyway. But if you score on them or get a INT.....LOL at them because instead of padding their stats they just dumped them.

[Raiderfanatic]

I agree, if the game is over.....up by two TDs, under 2 minutes....take a knee. It is the sportsmanship thing to do.

Now, if you want to work on your offense(pad your stats) then have the decency to put on your mic or send a message to the other player and let them know. That way they know you are not trying to kick sand in their face by trying to run the score up. And if they take offense to it, then don't. Just run the clock out...take a knee. Have some class and sportsmanship. They already know you whipped their butts....no need to taunt them over it.

[ScottyP]

I'll take a knee when I know that I can run the clock out.

A game I played the other day had me up by 10 or so and I got the ball back on a 4th down stop with a minute something left in the game.

I ran one running play up the gut to get the clock moving and get me close to the first down marker in case the other user called a timeout on my second down kneel down and stopped the clock. At that point, I could run a dive to get the first down and end the game. I knelt, they didn't call time and another kneel let the game expire.

You're saying you would give me negative feedback because I ran the ball once to make sure that I was in a position to run down the clock even if you took a time out? That's pretty weak.

I agree that someone shouldn't still be gunning for the endzone or running sweeps, but a simple dive up the middle = negative feedback.....?? weak.

[MwC Ziggs]

If I'm winning ( be it by 3 points or 21) and time is running down, I will take a knee if they can't get the ball back. If I need to run it abit first then I will. Not for the score but for clock management.

[Xagoth]

SHE (phenom girl) only wants you to knee so she can catch a glimpse of the QB's bulge in real time

And people wonder why there arent more girl gamers.

Well, there are plenty of them, but because of idiotic comments like that, they keep to themselves. Gamerchix is a good example. Only girls allowed so they don't have to deal with garbage like that comment.

Though, I do find it odd, that YOU noticed the QB has a bulge....hmm, never noticed myself, guess I don't look for things like that. ;)


As for the point of this thread.

I 110% agree. Someone can play me the most sim game EVER, but if they 100% have the game won and have the ball and continue to throw it in attempt to run the score up...I WILL and HAVE given them a negative for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Padding your score is the same thing as kicking someone while they are down. What exactly does it prove? You have BEATEN your opponent, have some HONOR and take your win with GRACE!

Someone said it earlier in this thread. Too many of you kids are WAY too consumed with winning, ranking and building those stats. If you are going to do that, prepare for the consequences is all I can say.

Look, treat someone like you would like to be treated. No one likes to lose. But losing and then having your face rubbed in it, is plain childish, disrespectful and will result in negative feedback from a good majority of us.

[ScottyP]

I still want to understand what problem you guys have with someone running a dive play to get the clock moving and position themselves near the first down marker just in case the other person changes their mind and decides to start calling time outs.

If the other player has no time outs, I have no problem killing the clock with kneels.

[Xagoth]

I still want to understand what problem you guys have with someone running a dive play to get the clock moving and position themselves near the first down marker just in case the other person changes their mind and decides to start calling time outs.

If the other player has no time outs, I have no problem killing the clock with kneels.

I personally dont have a problem with that.

Its the people that are actively trying to score one last time when they have the game won, that is my issue.

[btb26]

I love when people try to run the score up on me. That's where I get most of my pics. If I can't stop you, then I need the practice anyway. I've been up big a few times in my league and asked the guy I was playing if he wanted me to kneel or play my regular offense. If they say just run out the clock, I'll kneel or run dive plays. If they say keep playing, I'll do that. I did bust an 80 yard run at the end of a game I had already won and dove down at the 5 yard line. I could have had another touchdown and increased my rank, but I'm not that obsessed with this game.

[lev-flo]

Sorry - It really just sounds like you are a sore loser. Next time, wait a few hours after losing to heal before you post. Post when the anger wears off and you realize that ultimately, its just a video game.

[baandje]

Sorry - It really just sounds like you are a sore loser. Next time, wait a few hours after losing to heal before you post. Post when the anger wears off and you realize that ultimately, its just a video game.
Who are you taking to? Not me I hope... I never get upset because I always lose anyway.

[Galaxy CDS]

It's just poor sportsmanship. Played a guy last night who was up 21 with the ball on my 10 after a pick with about 45 seconds to go. I had 2 time outs, he runs a play, which is cool, I still had time outs, even though not enough to kill the clock to get the ball back. I stop the play, and don't call a time out. He comes out in a formation that looks like the clock kill. I'm like nice, a good sport. He snaps the ball, I'm not even holding my controller thinking he's taking a knee, and runs the ball in for a touchdown.

Now I guess that's certainly his right, he can do whatever he wants. But so can I, and I think that kind of crap is garbage, so he gets a Negative "poor sportsmanship" and a "do not prefer" on Live. Simple. If getting that touchdown in that situation is more important than being a decent person toward a fellow gamer, that's cool, but I'm telling the community about it with my vote, and choosing not to play you again. I've lost over 20 games, it's not a rare event, and if you play cool you get good feedback. You wanna be a jerk? Enjoy the negative.

[Xagoth]

It's just poor sportsmanship. Played a guy last night who was up 21 with the ball on my 10 after a pick with about 45 seconds to go. I had 2 time outs, he runs a play, which is cool, I still had time outs, even though not enough to kill the clock to get the ball back. I stop the play, and don't call a time out. He comes out in a formation that looks like the clock kill. I'm like nice, a good sport. He snaps the ball, I'm not even holding my controller thinking he's taking a knee, and runs the ball in for a touchdown.

Now I guess that's certainly his right, he can do whatever he wants. But so can I, and I think that kind of crap is garbage, so he gets a Negative "poor sportsmanship" and a "do not prefer" on Live. Simple. If getting that touchdown in that situation is more important than being a decent person toward a fellow gamer, that's cool, but I'm telling the community about it with my vote, and choosing not to play you again. I've lost over 20 games, it's not a rare event, and if you play cool you get good feedback. You wanna be a jerk? Enjoy the negative.

EXACTLY!!!

I just dont get how people feel its more important to get seven additional points over just being a classy person who can take a win with some honor.

[freshness601]

2 minutes left, you have time outs? I would've ran some dive plays and kneeled with one min. But other than that, I agree with you. Don't try to pass n run up the score n ****

[Allstarballer5]

I've had an experience where I was trying to kneel but my opponent kept calling timeouts(the game was over no chance for him to come back)so I ran a running play with my RB and I got to the goalline(his TD) and just stood their and waited for time to expire. I could have scored but I just let his guys tackle me out of bounds just to let the last few second tick down.

[NJake]

Man, you APF player are such whiners (at least some of them) I love this game but you guys do nothing but whine.. Im going back to NBA 2k7 forums. this is pathetic

If the guy wants to go deep and score again he can... Its your job to stop him, not his to end the game, he deserves to do whatever he wants at the end of the game... he whooped you.

But if you want to stop them from running up the score

DONT GET BLOWN OUT!

[Galaxy CDS]

You don't see NFL teams up 3+ scores with a minute to go running plays if the clock is still running and the other team isn't stopping it. 1) It's classless. 2) You may face that opponent again, why insult them now, and motivate them for later. There are other reasons that clearly don't apply to a video game, like avoiding freak injuries on meaningless plays and so on, but the fact remains it's just good sportsmanship not to show up your opponent in that situation. Do you really feel that much better about yourself adding a meaningless garbage time 4th score to your advantage?

[NJake]

That would happen to be the NFL... its a videogame that doesnt even involve NFL players...

You shoukd take a knee, but I dont see the problem with running the ball, or even trying to run up the score, the defense needs to stop them.

[ScottyP]

It's called good sportsmanship. Even though it is only a videogame, you are still playing the game against another person. Don't rub it in their face.

Like I said, I'll run the ball to get the clock moving and put myself close to the first down marker. If for some reason, I pop through into the secondary, I'll typically dive or get tackled so that I don't take it to the house. The game is over, don't be an ***.

On the flip side, if I run it in that situation and I do dive rather than going in for the TD, I wouldn't expect someone to give me bad feedback because I didn't sit on the ball.

[NJake]

Lets say you run the ball on a dive to end the game, but he gets by everyone and runs it 50 yards for a TD, should he run out of bounds instead of scoring?

[Xagoth]

That would happen to be the NFL... its a videogame that doesnt even involve NFL players...

You shoukd take a knee, but I dont see the problem with running the ball, or even trying to run up the score, the defense needs to stop them.

You have no idea what class is do you?

If you are beating someone soundly enough that they cant come back, you have proven you are better than that person and that person isnt able to stop you in that game.

So WHY continue to prove your dominance? Exactly what will it prove other than you cant WIN WITH CLASS.

Hopefully when you get older, you will understand what most of us are talking about.

Oh well, lucky for me, most people think like I do on this topic and will give negatives for this unsporting garbage. Which means, in all likelihood, I will never face them since I dont play low rated players.

[ScottyP]

Like I said, I'll typically dive as I pass the first down marker. It keeps the clock running and doesn't run up the score.

[NJake]

Ok, if im up by 21 in the 3rd quarter, I should take a knee, just because i have a big lead... ok great idea

And BTW: I do take a knee in that situation, but i wouldnt get mad at someone who does.

and here is another question, if the guy your playing has no timeouts with 45 seconds left its fouth down you are up by 1 do you punt immiedietly or do you wait till there is 2 seconds left on the game clock so he has no time for an offensive play or two.

Does that show no class?

[Phenomegirl]

I've had an experience where I was trying to kneel but my opponent kept calling timeouts(the game was over no chance for him to come back)so I ran a running play with my RB and I got to the goalline(his TD) and just stood their and waited for time to expire. I could have scored but I just let his guys tackle me out of bounds just to let the last few second tick down.

See, I find people that call time outs in situations like that (when they've lost and are just prolonging the game) to be annoying as well.

I also don't mind if someone runs a play because they're not sure if you are going to use your time outs. It's just that when it's obvious you're not, end the game already.

Sorry - It really just sounds like you are a sore loser. Next time, wait a few hours after losing to heal before you post. Post when the anger wears off and you realize that ultimately, its just a video game.

Are you sure you're responding to the right thread?

[NJake]

xagoth I know your a dumb a/ss because you are a bears fan...


GO PACK GO! GO PACK GO!

YES I AM A CHEESEHEAD

[ScottyP]

Ok, if im up by 21 in the 3rd quarter, I should take a knee, just because i have a big lead... ok great idea

And BTW: I do take a knee in that situation, but i wouldnt get mad at someone who does.

and here is another question, if the guy your playing has no timeouts with 45 seconds left its fouth down you are up by 1 do you punt immiedietly or do you wait till there is 2 seconds left on the game clock so he has no time for an offensive play or two.

Does that show no class?

In the 3rd??? Obviously you keep playing. The OP said with under 2 minutes left in the game.

Up by 1 and punting, of course you take the clock down as far as you can. Nobody is going to fault anyone for that. That's just playing smart and using clock management.

Trying to get into the endzone with under 1 or 2 minutes left and a big lead is not the same as either of those situations.

[Phenomegirl]

Ok, if im up by 21 in the 3rd quarter, I should take a knee, just because i have a big lead... ok great idea

Holy crap you're dense! I'm only talking when there are 2 minutes or less left in the game (IE, you can end the game). This truly is complicated to some, isn't it?

[Xagoth]

xagoth I know your a dumb a/ss because you are a bears fan...


GO PACK GO! GO PACK GO!

What a well thought out reply.

You know someone has lost a debate when they start:

1. Making fun of your screen name.
2. Making fun of your team affiliation.
3. Making fun of your post total.

I could go on, but you get the idea.

I have less posts than you do, want to use that as an argument as well? :D

[Xagoth]

Holy crap you're dense! I'm only talking when there are only two minutes left in the game. This truely is complicated to some, isn't it?

Apparently to some, its astrophysics...

[NJake]

Im just saying, I think you SHOULD take a knee, but it doesnt matter to me

[Kdrontle]

I personally love kneeling because I KNOW I won for sure, and I personally LOVE it when they DO NOT kneel because that means I have a shot at a big defensive play!!! Also, if the guy is up and kneeling that means i probably couldn't figure something out regarding his offense so the extra reps with a calmer more objective mind is a luxury to me. I've actually came back and won games because kids were stupidly aggressive when they should have took time off the clock, or even knelt.

I think you bring a good point in complaining about people not kneeling, but really it is to YOUR advantage, I mean you get to see more of their offense and you get more opportunities to make a play yourself! What if next play you big hit their RB with your big gold ILB and take it to the house?! I'd much rather have the opportunity for that than milking the clock to that inevitable defeat. A change in perspective might change your attitude towards those situations.

[Galaxy CDS]

If I'd seen more than 3 or 4 fumbles TOTAL in more than 50 games I'd agree with that to some extent. ;)

[Kdrontle]

Well, it is still football and it is still a possibility! :)

I always found 3 and outs fun too!

[Darkheath]

Wow... this is a great:

Who to play...

Who NOT to play thread.

It should be stickied. Heh..

For the record, I'm in the "good sportsmanship" camp on this one.

[kcxiv]

Is Njake really that clueless? lol

[GettinJuggy90]

your all a bunch of babies if stuffl iek this hrutsy our feelings.

you guys say "its about good sportsmanship"

well hoenstly, maybe no one should really have good sportsmanship on a video game.

when im up by a lot i admit i try to run up the score. I even take timeotus at teh endo ft he game when im up 14+ just to score again.

try to stop it if you dont like it.

[Galaxy CDS]

Thanks for adding youself to my "do not play" list! ;)

[NJake]

Yeah, Im really clueless.

Im clueless because i dont have a problem with not kneeling... Sorry, forgot for a second it was a federal offense.

And how many time do I have to say that I DO kneel when I know the game is over

And as for you "xagoth" im playin around, I like to have a little fun with Bears fans, because ive been a die-hard Packer fan my whole life

[GettinJuggy90]

wow its a game if you lose by 3 or 50 its teh same thing. grow up, get over it.

i score as much as possible within the time given.

[totalownership]

I see some of my peoples up in here putting there knowledge down. LOL
Well honestly I'm only kneeling when I KNOW it's mathematically impossible for you to get the ball back. I've actually lost a game (on NFL 2K5) behind kneeling and the other guy putting the fake on me by not calling his timeouts at first. NEVER AGAIN. That doesn't mean I'm going for gusto but a good running play up the middle eats a considerable amount of time with them getting back to the line and taking time to pick the next play. If I see no attempt at timeouts then I'll knee. Otherwise it's a run up the middle.

[micranes]

I'd have to disagree, well, with the 2 minutes deal. I've seen a lot of crazy stuff happen inside of 2 minutes on 2k5. I haven't played enough 2k8 yet to decide if its the same in that respect. I say 40 seconds is a good rule of thumb. 21 points is do-able in under 2 minutes I bet. I know it is on 2k5. It's all in how the ball bounces sometime. Not trying to be argumentative here, but if it was the same situation and I'm losing, I'm still trying to get the ball back and win right up to the end. And some people will let you take a knee a couple times and then star using the TOs. Better safe than sorry.

[Phenomegirl]

I see some of my peoples up in here putting there knowledge down. LOL
Well honestly I'm only kneeling when I KNOW it's mathematically impossible for you to get the ball back. I've actually lost a game (on NFL 2K5) behind kneeling and the other guy putting the fake on me by not calling his timeouts at first. NEVER AGAIN. That doesn't mean I'm going for gusto but a good running play up the middle eats a considerable amount of time with them getting back to the line and taking time to pick the next play. If I see no attempt at timeouts then I'll knee. Otherwise it's a run up the middle.

Yeah, I don't expect anyone to risk a game. I'm talking about situations when someone is not using their timeouts and taking a knee would end the game.

[Xagoth]

I just dont think some of you understand what Phenomegirl is saying.

So I will give examples.

2 minutes left, I have all my timeouts and down by 7 points and you have the ball. Be my guest, running, passing, whatever to run the time out or put the game out of reasonable reach.

Ok, now....less than 2 minutes left, I have ZERO timeouts and you are up by 21. Kneel the frickin' ball. You have already beaten me. I CANT stop the clock. YOU HAVE WON. Take your win with some dignity.

Just like last night. Played a guy using OJ. He played a great and fair game all the way until the end.

Around 90 seconds to go, I am out of timeouts. He is up by more than 2 TD's and has the ball. Does he just kneel and end what I considered a fun game? Nope, runs OJ twice up the middle which I stop, then he tosses the ball out wide to OJ and runs in for a VERY easy score. No one was even close to him. He could have just ran it out of bounds or dove down before the goal line, but he REALLY wanted that last 7 points. To me its a slap in the face for the honest game I gave this guy.

Hope that seven points was worth the negative I RELUCTANTLY gave to him. I honestly wanted to give the guy a positive. But he showed he had NO RESPECT for me as a player by unnecessarily running up the score, so I had to show no respect for him with my rating.

Play with some CLASS people!

[GettinJuggy90]

lmfao this post is hilarious. If your going to lose you might as well lose big. Im happy when people keep playing unstead of kneeling gives me a chance to get back in the game. I just won a game becuz some stupid f**k didnt kneel it. He ran with campbell and i big hit him with singletary and he fumbled. rotfl

if you dont like having the score ran up on you than dont play me folks

[Xagoth]

lmfao this post is hilarious. If your going to lose you might as well lose big. Im happy when people keep playing unstead of kneeling gives me a chance to get back in the game. I just won a game becuz some stupid f**k didnt kneel it. He ran with campbell and i big hit him with singletary and he fumbled. rotfl

if you dont like having the score ran up on you than dont play me folks

Will do and happily. :D

[Phenomegirl]

lmfao this post is hilarious. If your going to lose you might as well lose big. Im happy when people keep playing unstead of kneeling gives me a chance to get back in the game. I just won a game becuz some stupid f**k didnt kneel it. He ran with campbell and i big hit him with singletary and he fumbled. rotfl

if you dont like having the score ran up on you than dont play me folks

Good for you. But, based on your attitude in this post I would be willing to bet that you you often get and give negative feedback win or lose. So......you missed the whole point, didn't ya?

[GettinJuggy90]

yeah i get and give neg FB often.

thats why im a smiley face with 88% and over 100 games

go play barbie

[ThBeNdS]

Giving negative feedback to anyone for anything other then complete crap play is wrong. I hate people who give negative feedback for no real reason.

[Xagoth]

yeah i get and give neg FB often.

thats why im a smiley face with 88% and over 100 games

go play barbie

You showed your maturity with that last comment.

Oh well, can just ignore whatever else you say, now that I know you cant have a real debate with someone without flaming.

And by the way, I have a green smiley as well with 100% feedback in over 40 games played. Luckily, the majority of people dont think like you.

[GettinJuggy90]

yeah i get and give neg FB often.

thats why im a smiley face with 88% and over 100 games

go play barbie

bends encase you didnt notice, i was beign sarcastic

i dont do that

barbie girls does it to peopel that beat her too bad

[Xagoth]

bends encase you didnt notice, i was beign sarcastic

i dont do that

barbie girls does it to peopel that beat her too bad

Wow, I almost need a translator to understand what you just wrote.

Stay in school, please.

[GettinJuggy90]

okay? i wasnt talkign to you i was talkign to bends lol

tool

[GettinJuggy90]

tool tool tool tool tool

[hooman1844]

Giving negative feedback to anyone for anything other then complete crap play is wrong. I hate people who give negative feedback for no real reason.
Can't agree with that.
I hate how there's stockpile of players (ps3 at least) that are in the 90s but don't deserve to be there. I want to be able to differentiate between the great players and the meh players, and by rating everyone positive even though they aren't you're not helping at all, basically you're saying he's as good as match as you're going to find, which isn't the case. Of course, if that is the case and they deserve a positive give it to them, but not just because they didn't blatantly glitch on every play.

[NJake]

Heres the perfect solution, Take a knee and give positive feedback

[Phenomegirl]

Hmmm....I've been finding out you guys with no sportsmanship get angry when there is a consequence.:D

No suprise there.

[Entiel]

SHE (phenom girl) only wants you to knee so she can catch a glimpse of the QB's bulge in real time
Come on,act like you've talked to a 'girl' before. . .:noagree:

[namhnit]

It's that time of the month again...

Oh yeah, I think I played you Unique on XBOX live. I think we had a pretty good game.