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APFGEEK
August 29th, 2007, 01:20 PM
Backbreaker Associate Producer Matt Sherman is featured on the latest
edition of 1UP's Sports Anomaly Podcast. The link is below along with highlights of the podcast…

http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3158196

1. Euphoria engine utilizes power of CPU’s on next gen consoles. Simulates live and real time interactive characters which is perfect for football.

2. Current football games use canned animation and pretty much same thing every year with little improvements.

3. It will be a sim game, not arcade! Will be very slightly futuristic.

4. Engine runs live and simulates fully interactive tackles, body speed, velocity of limbs, personal characteristics such as strength, what your reaction times are, how muddy the field is. This means every contact is unique based on these factors.

5. No canned animations, gang tackling will be in the game. They want to bring the real life experience of playing defense and making big hits – no matter how many other players are involved in the tackle.

6. Videos posted on Back Breaker site were taken from next gen consoles.

7. Game will be a little different regarding imagery & sounds. They are not trying to duplicate other football games on the market.

8. Camera angles will be different in order to intimately capture the on field experience. For example on the road during a 4th down you may not be able to audible due to crowd noise. They want the user to feel what it’s like to have 300 pound monsters trying to break your head. They want you to see what it’s like to be a running back and hit the gaps. They are aware of past failures in other games regarding poor camera angles but are focused on creating the on field atmosphere.

9. They want to simplify controls and bring new ideas to the table.

10. This technology would look great in a Madden game but could not confirm if they will use the engine in the future.

11. Thinks APF2K8 was unique and well done without the NFL license. They will bring “Something else to the table.”

12. No exact release date – “Some time in 2008.”

13. Current football games need revolutionary change, we are trying to answer that. Are trying to achieve balance – need a deep, realistic experience but one in which anyone can pick up and play.

14. Did not confirm which console the game will be released on. “It will be on a next gen console.”

15. Tackles will be simulated in 90 frames per second. No jumps in animation, real fluid.

So here are my predictions based on the above interview:

1. It will be 11 on 11 football. He mentioned the Euphoria engine is “Perfect for creating 22 players on a football field.”

2. There will be no announcers. They seem focused on making you feel like a player on the field. Instead you will probably hear the crowd along with the QB, center and defensive players shouting calls or taunts. Hearing drunken hecklers in the crowd would be great as well.

Talked a lot about hard hits and tackles with little mention of AI or other problems which football games have had a hard time overcoming. I predict the first version will be a bit on the “arcadey” side unless they hire some top notch AI programmers.

ScottyP
August 29th, 2007, 01:24 PM
Sounds like they have the physics and general atmosphere that they are going for handled pretty well.

The AI is a major thing and will make or break the game.

borbafett
August 29th, 2007, 01:53 PM
that all sounds great.

but.

i didn't like the character models at all. they looked like comic book super heroes. but the 2k fan base took a chance on 2k way back in 99, and it will be fun to give this game a shot when and if it comes out.

Cryomaniac
August 29th, 2007, 02:18 PM
I'll definatley give this a shot when it comes out.

Codenamemighty
August 29th, 2007, 02:29 PM
Sounds really cool..I belive they have the general idea of what a football should consist of Now if they can deliver then it would be great. I am sure if this game does come out it will be on Xbox360 and PS3

Lacarious
August 29th, 2007, 02:46 PM
i sure hope this game has great gameplay... can't wait for it to hit.

Stiler
August 29th, 2007, 02:47 PM
Sounds interesting, however I really hope they work on making the players look real, and not like the rag dolls that they looked like in that Teaser video. It was like they had no bones and once they got hit they went "limp."

In real life people just wouldn't do that usually, they'd try to catch themselves, hang on to the ball, etc.

ScottyP
August 29th, 2007, 02:51 PM
Since it's an entire physics engine, they should be able to tweak the ragdoll movements any way they wish.

Prince_RIP4eVa
August 29th, 2007, 03:56 PM
has potential... idk how the first version will be, but they seem to have a good idea of what it would take to make a great game. Down the line, maybe...

eldogg
August 29th, 2007, 04:53 PM
i think these guys are mad no one wants to use their engine for a football game. i don't like how they get limp when hit. everyone knows when you are airborne and about to get hit or land you always brace for impact. not all those tackles look like they would happen. no player gets limp like they do in the vid.

now i remember them saying that you could have scripted animations as well. like they showed with indiana jones awhile back. plus why do think people think these guys are gonna come in and perfect something that has taken others longer to attempt to do.

APFGEEK
August 29th, 2007, 05:07 PM
In any case Backbreaker - along with an APF2K9 will wake up the fat, sleeping dog named Madden. Time to make a better game guys....

chestnutz6
August 29th, 2007, 05:12 PM
8. Camera angles will be different in order to intimately capture the on field experience. For example on the road during a 4th down you may not be able to audible due to crowd noise. They want the user to feel what it’s like to have 300 pound monsters trying to break your head. They want you to see what it’s like to be a running back and hit the gaps. They are aware of past failures in other games regarding poor camera angles but are focused on creating the on field atmosphere.

That sounds sweet.

Lacarious
August 29th, 2007, 05:26 PM
i think these guys are mad no one wants to use their engine for a football game. i don't like how they get limp when hit. everyone knows when you are airborne and about to get hit or land you always brace for impact. not all those tackles look like they would happen. no player gets limp like they do in the vid.

now i remember them saying that you could have scripted animations as well. like they showed with indiana jones awhile back. plus why do think people think these guys are gonna come in and perfect something that has taken others longer to attempt to do.

by employing developers that have worked on a football game. I'm sure when EA bought the NFL license there were a ton of 2K football devs that needed work.

It's not hard to buy up talent in the gaming community however as EA has proven it is very easy to throw away talent and destroy a football game franchise.

Red Ronin
August 29th, 2007, 08:04 PM
I'll give it a chance. As long as it isn't published by EA.
...

Red Ronin

SIMSAHOY
August 30th, 2007, 05:53 AM
i hope it has a franchise mode or it will get boring. no announcer nothing but limp hits i hope they give more than what is said.

manster54
August 30th, 2007, 07:46 AM
In any case Backbreaker - along with an APF2K9 will wake up the fat, sleeping dog named Madden. Time to make a better game guys....

the sad truth is that as long as Madden keeps receiving these glorified, over the top previews and reviews from "professional" gaming sites and magazines...and as long as folks blindly purchase the game on release day (guilty here-friggin' "DOH"!)...Madden/EA really don't need to wake up at all. It's automatic for them.
Just come up with some stupid "Ring accomplishment" angle each year and....voila!
Cha-ching!!!!:(

thePLAGUE
August 30th, 2007, 08:36 AM
I dont know about this game yet...Its sounding like blitz the league...They need to get their minds right and release a pure sim game...Get some announcers for crying out loud...I have a feeling they want to sell euphoria to EA by the way they keep sucking up to them...

Gwar
August 30th, 2007, 08:40 AM
The only bad thing about a new football game is I'm getting tired of being the beta tester for yet another new game. I get tired of the mantra wait till next year. I've been playing football since the begining... the first football game with X's and O's as graphics and had a trackball and one button for a controller, Madden the original of course, Joe Montana football, Mike Ditkas Power football, TV Sports Football on and on and on... I get extremely tired of a Football games with little innovation and basically just roster updates (Madden) and new games with no features. Enough is enough already!

Red Ronin
August 30th, 2007, 06:28 PM
TV Sports Football...? GWAR, did you notice that Garner (DE 95) and Albright (WR 19) are in APF2K8...?
:D

Red Ronin

Gwar
August 30th, 2007, 06:56 PM
TV Sports Football...? GWAR, did you notice that Garner (DE 95) and Albright (WR 19) are in APF2K8...?
:D

Red Ronin


Yeppers someone actually pointed that out in another thread....