Dante Hall

[mike6]

How can you update this guy to make him a better punt/kick returner. I already increased his apeed and agility a bit but he doesnt do even close to what he can in real life.

[Onyx]

you need to make illegal blocks for him so he can run all the way(don't worry even though the refs are standing right there they will not call it)

:x

[mike6]

hahahah...not funny. they werent illegal blocks. dante hall made 11 guys miss just by running 2 times back and fourth...i wouldnt blame it on the refs, id blame it on the missed tackle and the broncos bunching up

[Onyx]

watch inside the nfl on HBO the penelty is very obvious it was the only guy standing there that could have stopped hall and he was smacked down.


id blame it on the missed tackle and the broncos bunching up


I would blame it on the fact that they punted it to him instead of out of bounds

[mike6]

quit your whining. he shouldnt have even got there in the first place. 11 players and all of em went straight at him. they knew coming into the game that Dante Hall was going to kill them if the kicked it to him, and still the gave him the ball and did a **** job covering him

[MeanJoeGreene]

One guy would not have stopped Hall anyway.

MJG :shock:

[Bigry]

One guy would not have stopped Hall anyway

not true. the guy was RIGHT behind him when he was pushed in the back. IN fact the push in the back took out TWO broncos while the ref stood and watched.

[MeanJoeGreene]

The Avs have too much money. its sick. :shock:

[sonnycrockett30]

onyx, actually if you watch the three "clips" were on people who would not have made the play anyway. In all three incidents the "clipped" players were moving in the opposite direction of the "human joystick". Yes they were clips though, and it should not have been a td, but then again the Broncos were retarded for kicking it to him. :o

[Onyx]

I dont know sonny, I think cole would have had him if he wasnt clipped and the ball would have been down on the 2.



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[ZigZag]

Sorry pal, but that's legal. He's pushing him in the side, not in his back.

[MarkII]

I thought that to be a legal block you have to be able to see the numbers on the front of his jersey.

[cody]

IS there a clip of what happened that game.

I wanna see what really happened!

[Onyx]

I may have just got a bad screen shot but he is pushing him in the back and then cole falls down on another player that had a chance at hall.If you have IRC cody i can send you the clip


http://home.comcast.net/~creep00/pics/KCDB.jpg

[MeanJoeGreene]

There is a Bronco right in front of the Bronco who is being pushed, and even HE did not have a chance to stop him. Let alone the guy who was pushed, even without any blocks right there, he would of still burned both of thos guys like toast.

You are living in a dream world if you think those 2 broncos had a chance to stop Hall.


MJG :twisted:

[Onyx]

of course they had a chance the were right there and hall would have had no place but the enzone to run to.The chiefs did win and nothing will change that but the refs have to start watching closer when hall makes returns.


by the way joe i cant wait for the broncos to get another win this week against the steelers. :lol:

[MeanJoeGreene]

There is TWO OTHER Broncos in that picture who are closer to Hall than the One guy who is being pushed. What are those other 2 guys doing? Knitting a pair of socks?



MJG :roll:

[Onyx]

are you talking about 23 and 59?

23 would have had him but was pushed in the back when he was about to get hall

[KINGPIZI86]

i'm not even a broncos fan and when i saw that return, i couldn't beleive a penalty wasn't called. i could understand a blown call 30 yds away, but this was as close to a play an illigal blocking penalty could be. what was even worse the ref was on top of it all...almost seems like they wanted to see Hall return another one for a td...what a shame. mjg, whether or not they would have made the tackle is irrelivant; the point is the refs blew a huge call that greatly impacted the broncos loosing that game. i personally think those two broncos taken out by the block would have made the tackle... if not it they would have slowed Hall down enough for the others to make the play before Hall gets upfield. either way the cheifs should have started inside the 2-7 yd line...period

go vikings!

[Seawolf1]

So what he didnt get a clipping call, boohoo. How about a real bogus call when they called "stepping" or whatever the hell it is on Simeon Rice monday night during the first missed field goal. If that wasn't BS I dont know what is.
I'm getting tired of seeing big games decided by referees wanting to be super stars. Keep your flag in your pocket unless its obvious and let them play ball.

[Onyx]

that call was not a bogus call but it is a wacky rule

I'm getting tired of seeing big games decided by referees wanting to be super stars. Keep your flag in your pocket unless its obvious and let them play ball.


you dont get anymore obvious than all the clipping that was going on in that return.

[Got Skillz]

you need to make illegal blocks for him so he can run all the way(don't worry even though the refs are standing right there they will not call it)

:x
onyx you are retarted your just mad that your punter still kicked to him(bad coaching) and he made his magic work you are ****ing retarted on the broncos game there were no illeagle blocks but the packers one was almost a clip but he his hands on the inside shoulder pad so it wasnt a clip, i mean ive seen a couple posts where youve *****ed about the same thing about the refs shut the hell up you guys lost get over it

[Got Skillz]

they had no chance at hall

[Revengel]

you need to make illegal blocks for him so he can run all the way(don't worry even though the refs are standing right there they will not call it)

:x
onyx you are retarted your just mad that your punter still kicked to him(bad coaching) and he made his magic work you are [***]
retarted on the broncos game there were no illeagle blocks but the packers one was almost a clip but he his hands on the inside shoulder pad so it wasnt a clip, i mean ive seen a couple posts where youve *****ed about the same thing about the refs shut the [***]
up you guys lost get over it

Sorry to say this Skillz but...no.

or in other words:

http://www.aslplz.com/sapics/flame2.jpeg

[Revengel]

Look...

Donte' Hall is an INCREDIBLE returner...and deserves all the credit he gets. However the block in the back was just that. He made the most of what he had to work with...but I gotta call you on this one. Now perhaps he would have gotten away...but the fact is those two guys never had the oppourtunity to either club him or be made a fool of.

[Onyx]

you need to make illegal blocks for him so he can run all the way(don't worry even though the refs are standing right there they will not call it)

:x
onyx you are retarted your just mad that your punter still kicked to him(bad coaching) and he made his magic work you are [***]
retarted on the broncos game there were no illeagle blocks but the packers one was almost a clip but he his hands on the inside shoulder pad so it wasnt a clip, i mean ive seen a couple posts where youve *****ed about the same thing about the refs shut the [***]
up you guys lost get over it

If you cant see those clips then you are brain dead or blind.Hall had no place to go if those 2 guys had not been pushed down and by the way there was another clip in that play that was not called so 3 guys had a chance to get him but they were fouled.

[Got Skillz]

think about it, he was goin back to the 2 anyway he woulda burnt them with speed i guarentee you, but i guess that didnt happen so well never know

[Got Skillz]

Either way that was horrible tackling on the bronocs part, and your comment:
you need to make illegal blocks for him so he can run all the way(don't worry even though the refs are standing right there they will not call it)
was un called for because that isnt even the basis of this thread but hey, dont hate cuz we beat ya.

[Onyx]

Either way that was horrible tackling on the bronocs part, and your comment


what comment?

where the hell was he going to run? into the endzone? I said a while back that the chiefs won and we have to move on but the broncos played a better game and should have won.Its a shame the refs see every little thing but when a foul means something they dont call it.

[Seawolf1]

Explain how a Defensive player jumps up without any help or touching anyone else in order to block a kick and then once the kick is away he comes down on top of his own player and how that is a penalty. Thats insane!
I understand the stepping rule, you cant use another player to boost yourself up into the air, but Rice clearly jumped on his own without touching anyone and only landed on his own player on the way down after the kick was made. How in the hell can he be stepping if he never freakin stepped?!!!!

I'm tired of the Bucs being the ginney pigs for rule changes each year. 3 years ago it was "the catch" in the NFC championship against the Rams, and now this whole stepping thing, also they saw this week that the onside kick that the colts kicked up into the air was illegal and by rule should have been Tampa Bay's football, but the Refs conveniently missed that call as well.

that call was not a bogus call but it is a wacky rule

I'm getting tired of seeing big games decided by referees wanting to be super stars. Keep your flag in your pocket unless its obvious and let them play ball.


you dont get anymore obvious than all the clipping that was going on in that return.

[GreyHoundSteve]

whats funny is in sundays game with the packers and chiefs the oacker who blocked the ot fg did leap off another player and no flag. Then on the Sunday night game the stupid officials kept flagging players for taunting and other stupid judgment call that didnt effect the outcome of plays. Its like the officails only throw flags on NON reviewable plays now cuz they know they cant be overturned. I am ready to take the zebras off the field and put them behind cameras instead. These guys on the field and making bad calls that effect the outcome of games and then breaking up good football action and throwing flags when guys are just trying to play with some emotion.

[a12s34d56]

great picture .

It was definetly a clip , but he was lucky and the ref somehow missed it.

it doesn't matter if he would have faked those guys anyway
thats not the rule - the rule is clipping is clipping.

Hall is pretty good hes got speed , agility and vision , and a lead full back (the other return guy in videogames) , and a bunch of tightend/full back /ofensive lineman type guys that set up a wedge and he knows how to set the defense into the wedge.

[LP44Otacon]

it doesn't matter if he would have faked those guys anyway
thats not the rule - the rule is clipping is clipping.

he just shut u allll down...and tampa fans quit your whining...warren sapp shoulda been given more than a small ***** fine for running into the ref...that ***** is dirty and cheap