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ruffnuts21
October 13th, 2007, 09:42 AM
I cant stop'em. I am a very good defensive player, but te's kill me. I would rather try and stop Jerry Rice than Pete fricken Metzelaars. Dave Wilcox didnt work either. It seems like everybody that has a legend Te throws to him EVERYTIME! Te's in this game are way to good, any1 else agree.

Hotsuma
October 13th, 2007, 09:49 AM
you suck.......

Valdarez
October 13th, 2007, 09:58 AM
Use the TE Dog... it puts man on the TE and keeps the other players in zone.

AlexJones27
October 13th, 2007, 10:04 AM
I cant stop'em. I am a very good defensive player, but te's kill me. I would rather try and stop Jerry Rice than Pete fricken Metzelaars. Dave Wilcox didnt work either. It seems like everybody that has a legend Te throws to him EVERYTIME! Te's in this game are way to good, any1 else agree.


I disagree. I shut them all down with Willcox. Even bronze LB's do a nice job. Maybe it's your play calling.

darkasian
October 13th, 2007, 10:04 AM
Depending on the TE, sometimes you're better off putting a DB on them. You could try that. But then again, my defense has been more break than bend.

xManning1018x
October 13th, 2007, 10:06 AM
You're not a "very good defensive player" if you can't stop Metzelaars man.

Njake.
October 13th, 2007, 11:22 AM
Only problem I have with Metzelaars is that he is so tall. Sometimes hard to stop.

FLAxWLESS
October 13th, 2007, 11:39 AM
Only problem I have with Metzelaars is that he is so tall. Sometimes hard to stop.

Is that why you quit in our game Njake? Cause Christensen was unguardable?

ruffnuts21
October 13th, 2007, 11:42 AM
I shoulda figured i would get the "you suck" response instead of a real response. Anyway yes i am a pretty good defensive player, not great but good.

Hotsuma
October 13th, 2007, 12:27 PM
I shoulda figured i would get the "you suck" response instead of a real response. Anyway yes i am a pretty good defensive player, not great but good.


you suck.....

acoosticant
October 13th, 2007, 12:55 PM
I'll give you a reasonable option to try:

I have always found that man coverage against a TE is a no-no. Most TE routes are run over the middle so if you are playing someone who is trying to dominate you with passes to their TE play like a Cover 4 out of the 4-3. It will still protect against the run reasonably, but it will also cover those deep posts and corners people like to run with TEs.

Phillip A Bole
October 13th, 2007, 01:03 PM
All the you suck people need to look in a damn mirror.

TE's aren't unstoppable however. They are hard, but not unstoppable. They really excel in M2M however. I keep hearing people say it's unrealistic, but in real football if you get a great TE covered by a great LB, the TE still wins in man2man situations more times than not. Look at Jason Witten for the cowboys, look at Kellen Winslow, look at Dallas Clark, Jeremy Shockey, Tony Gonzales, and on and on. People who say they (the TE's) shouldn't be able to beat a corner are also mistaken (Corners are used to covering WR's, not TE's and the routes are totally different). Even in pro football when they put corners on TE's, as they sometimes do with the good ones, the TE still will make the catch and now instead of having to run over a LB they get to run over a small corner and gain extra yards. It happens all the time.

That being said, if you are playing someone with good receivers and a good or great TE, you have to mix in a lot of zones and m2m. You simply can't give them the same look over and over and it's essential to make them feel like someone is always near that TE. You can still man up your corners manually in a zone, and there are LB adjustments to have one of them drop deep zone, mid zone, etc while having the corners cover the out routes to the sidelines.

Everyone's been burned by TE's, even those "you suck" people who have nothing to contribute, but we've all also been burned at times by RB's, WR's, etc. They aren't unstoppable, but the fact is stopping any gold player on offense is going to take some work and practice.

It can be frustrating so I feel what you're saying. You just have to work at it, and frankly there isn't anyone on this forum or anyone I've played (or even lost to) who couldn't use some work, including myself.

Hotsuma
October 13th, 2007, 01:44 PM
umm you still suck

Phillip A Bole
October 13th, 2007, 01:51 PM
Mirror. Kettle. Black. Now we're done.

Hotsuma
October 13th, 2007, 02:06 PM
Mirror. Kettle. Black. Now we're done.


um you still suck

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Valdarez
October 13th, 2007, 02:28 PM
BTW, I hop you didn't think I was using slang there with the TE Dog defense... that's a defensive play you can call out of the 4-3 formation. If someone is abusing their TE, then double team him.

Njake.
October 13th, 2007, 04:46 PM
^ yes, its called a 3 Dog T

GoodSense
October 13th, 2007, 05:07 PM
They aren't unstoppable, but there does seem to be a universal set of abilities applied to them all. Not all of them are as fast as they appear in this game.

I will agree that for most modern day TE's they would be hard to cover with a LB.
Back in the day TE's I don't think they were as fast as the TE's you today.

How you stop them depends on what other weapons your opponent has.

GoodSense
October 13th, 2007, 05:09 PM
^ yes, its called a 3 Dog T

I've only found 2 double team plays.
This one and the one where you double all 3 wideouts.

They should have included a Dog X, Dog Y, Dog Z... or something like that to take care of the 3 wide out positions.

Hopefully in 2k9.