Quick snapping to prevent defensive adjustments

[AlexJones27]

I am a big adjuster on offense and defense trying to play matchups versus just running the same tired play so I was wondering has anyone everplayed someone that just sets and snaps the ball. I heard if you hold down right bumpers and move your secondary back and forth the QB doesnt set and just looks at everybody. Is this cheese or is this a tactic to prevent quick snapping? I have never tried this but have had it done to me when I found a hole in someones game plane and was no-huddling to keep getting that matchup. It stopped me thats for sure I was unable to set and get the play off.

[acoosticant]

There is a way to do it but I think it only works against the hurry up offense and I am not really sure exactly how to do it.

[Hotsuma]

Everyone in this game quicksnaps..

except the vets..

[nepharius4]

lmao at the vets part, either way quick snapping is part of the game, if theyre doing it and you see a hole in your defense then call a timeout.

[Hotsuma]

lmao at the vets part, either way quick snapping is part of the game, if theyre doing it and you see a hole in your defense then call a timeout.


quick snapping is part of the NFL..

Not part of FOOTBALL VIDEO GAMES..

because their is a huge difference

get your weight up ********

[Njake.]

I strongly dislike the quicksnap.

[nepharius4]

hot you should probably calm down, in the end as you said its a videogame.

Still nothing wrong with quick snapping, if you call the right d your fine if not youre ****ed, if the offense calls the right play their fine if they don't their ****ed.

Now what i think is not right is no huddling and then quick snapping, but coming out of the play call screens its fine.

[twosilk]

i usually only quick snap against d-line glitchers, but how long is a good amount of time to be sim, but yet not give you all day to adjust all 11 of your guys, then if i audible do i have to let you adjust again, normally i give you until i have read your d, and then i am snapping the ball, the longer i give you to adjust your defense doesn't that put you at the advantage

[BofaDeezNutts]

Quick snapping is garbage. It is funny how I did a poll a couple weeks ago and everyone said that they never quick snap.

Yet, 90% of my opponents quick snap.

[Njake.]

Bofa, how did your Redskins do?

[AlexJones27]

Bofa, how did your Redskins do?


LOL how did my PATS do?

[Njake.]

I dont care about your pats. All I care about is the Packers.

[totalownership]

If I see something to exploit I will snap quick. Sorry fellas but thats football. It's no different than the NFL when they see something they'll snap fast. Usually though there's nothing to see in the NFL because pros are calling the plays. But I wont quicksnap all game long. If I see santa I'm quick snapping cause I want christmas early. lol But quicksnapping just to quick snap is stupid.

[GoodSense]

Nothing wrong with quick snapping.
I've used it on occassion, but not every play.
If someone is glitching or playing that ONE defense that you know requires them doing a bunch of settings on each play then I will quick hike.

Why should I allow you to setup that perfect defense?
I haven't had to do that yet because I don't play 100 games online a month.
Heck I only got in 6 over two weeks. :lol:

It is easy to see if they are doing it because everyone is in the same position and all the flickering of the player button icons that goes on.
People keep talking about SIM, which I'm for, but be honest with yourself.
Many know they are setting up that ONE defense and will stick with it until it is broken.

I don't care if you quick hike on me. Again, no negative feedback.
The only thing they need to add for 2k9 are more plays preset to double various positions and include spy plays for similar plays.
In other words, Cover 1 Blaze, should be just that, but have a similar play that makes a blitzer a spy player.

I would also like to see more screen plays.
- TE's with delay releases.
- FB's

Anyway, snap it how ever you like as long as it doesn't involve a glitch.

Peace!

[kod68]

I played a guy the other week where HE was always in the stuck QB animation at the line. Doing some kind of strange swaying thing. He did the hurry-up every play, the whole game. I was hoping everytime he was going to get a delay of game penalty, but at at least 4-5 seconds to go, he came out of it. I got stuck in it once or twice. I send a message asking him about it, but he didn't say anything.
And AJ, I did play you, and I posted here the day after the game. So, come on, do you not think you are just being a jerk rapidly cycling through your defense when people are trying to kick a FG. I thought it was a good game, but to me, the cycling thing is for morons.

[GoodSense]

I played a guy the other week where HE was always in the stuck QB animation at the line. Doing some kind of strange swaying thing. He did the hurry-up every play, the whole game. I was hoping everytime he was going to get a delay of game penalty, but at at least 4-5 seconds to go, he came out of it. I got stuck in it once or twice. I send a message asking him about it, but he didn't say anything.
And AJ, I did play you, and I posted here the day after the game. So, come on, do you not think you are just being a jerk rapidly cycling through your defense when people are trying to kick a FG. I thought it was a good game, but to me, the cycling thing is for morons.


Sounds like someone was either audibling or faking an audible over and over until the last second.

In the other game are you saying someone you played locked you from being able to hike by cycling through players?
Sounds like an old 2k5 glitch to me.

[kod68]

I don't THINK the guy was audibling constantly, but I could be wrong.
And hiking the ball wasn't the problem when I played Alex Jones. He was trying to be distracting on my FG goal attempts by rapidly cyclying through his defense. To me, that is just bush league, for jerks.
Played you about two weeks ago or so GoodSense. GG.

[GoodSense]

I don't THINK the guy was audibling constantly, but I could be wrong.
And hiking the ball wasn't the problem when I played Alex Jones. He was trying to be distracting on my FG goal attempts by rapidly cyclying through his defense. To me, that is just bush league, for jerks.
Played you about two weeks ago or so GoodSense. GG.

Ok. Your one of my only six games I was able to play and all were great games.
I had to have my FIOS router replaced, but I didn't know this Rev C version had a problem with the 360 Xbox, so I'm stuck offline for now.

I gave everyone 100% ratings and good feedback win or lose.
I enjoyed the games.

Being offline though is allowing me to work some other things into the game that I didn't have in there before. Hopefully, fios will work this out.


I don't believe in all that cycling through stuff unless I'm trying to get to a player to control and someone I skipped over him by mistake or I'm trying to shift my DB's and need to get back to who I'm trying to control.


I'll look for you when this patch for the router comes out in a week or two from what I've heard. It is being tested for now by Version and Microsoft or something like that.

[totalownership]

I don't THINK the guy was audibling constantly, but I could be wrong.
And hiking the ball wasn't the problem when I played Alex Jones. He was trying to be distracting on my FG goal attempts by rapidly cyclying through his defense. To me, that is just bush league, for jerks.
Played you about two weeks ago or so GoodSense. GG.
LOL, I agree with you but to me it's SOOOO bush league that it isn't even worth mentioning. When I see that it makes me laugh cause it's so old school, no skill , "bush" league as you put it that it's funny.

[AlexJones27]

OK the guy who says I cycle through players is just a goon. I mean if you can't make a FG then your not a good player. It's not like i blocked it. Just trying to distract the kick. That is ledgit. There are people that send guys early and block FG and thats not me. Pick your poison dueshbag

[AlexJones27]

check out my feedback compared to this idiot. I am 97% versus this cheeser. I shouldn't have to defend myself on this one. I am one of the most honest players in this game. If your that good you shouldn't be kicking FG anyway. Im serious. Don't be mad cause I beat you. I don't use EARL, I don't use MARINO, I don't create players. Your messing with the wrong person.

[kod68]

You lost, moron.

[kod68]

And, I did make the field goals, both of them.
So, now people suk because they kick FG's, lol.
I've never claimed to be the best. I actually think of myself as just average, but what you get from me is a good online experience. Some of the people that post here are really good at the game. If I can get a win from some people here, I consider it an achievement.
As far as feedback, mine is probably just as good as yours.
Played GoodSense, Digital Android, & NJake. Lost to Digital Android bigtime, but doubt you will hear any complaints at all about my game.

[BofaDeezNutts]

Quick snapping a few times a game should be fine. But, doing it the entire game is just bull crap. Atleast let the defender pick his guy.

I understand alot of people play the d-line, so it doesn't matter to you.

But, it would be nice to atleast see how the offense lines up. Especially when 90% of the people I play anymore sub TE's @ WR and WR's @ TE. Then on top of that they quick snap it, so you you don't have time to adjust to a player that should not even be on the field.

I always allow my QB to say "down", "set" before I hike it. It would be nice if others had the courtesy to do this. Rus h to the line thats fine but, atleast allow the the opponent time to pick his defender.

[Numbski]

The only "stuck" glitches I've seen with the QB are not being able to snap after an audible, and my personal "favorite" - trying to run up and spike the ball, and the QB politely waits for the defense to set up first, and burns 20 seconds waiting. :(

[Numbski]

Quick snapping a few times a game should be fine. But, doing it the entire game is just bull crap. Atleast let the defender pick his guy.

I understand alot of people play the d-line, so it doesn't matter to you.

But, it would be nice to atleast see how the offense lines up. Especially when 90% of the people I play anymore sub TE's @ WR and WR's @ TE. Then on top of that they quick snap it, so you you don't have time to adjust to a player that should not even be on the field.

I always allow my QB to say "down", "set" before I hike it. It would be nice if others had the courtesy to do this. Rus h to the line thats fine but, atleast allow the the opponent time to pick his defender.

Now this I don't understand at all. People using the D-Line in 2k8. There is not benefit AT ALL that I can see to using the defensive line, unless you're hoping to glitch and get a clean run at the QB. In 2K5 it made sense enough - you could effectively crowd a stretch play from the DE spot, and nail swing pass/screen pass abusers with the DE, but in 2K8 those things just don't work. The only thing I've seen a D-line user do to me is get a clean run off the edge, and I've just countered that by flipping the play or moving blockers. The proof of what they're doing is if I motion a blocker and they immediately switch to the other DE. They're not concerned with run coverage. They just want some quality time on the turf with my QB. :P Forget that...

I might say otherwise if I saw that d-line player laying a hand on my ball carriers occasionally, but it never happens. The only person they ever hit is one of my blockers on a pass play, or a free run at my QB. That's it. To me that takes enough benefit out of controlling the d-line that even *I* have moved back to controlling either a linebacker or a safety, and my brain lives at the line of attack, squelching the run THEN dropping into coverage. I hate to repeat what was said to me repeatedly in 2K5, but I have to - if you're controlling the line, you're either glitching, or you're letting your opponent play vs the CPU. Get off the line and start making plays. Your defense will be better for it. If you're playing 2K5 I still think the DE spot is where you should be starting your plays from. Stomp out the stretch play and swing pass from there, then flip back to your coverage. Just my opinion.

[BofaDeezNutts]

Bofa, how did your Redskins do?


LOL.......thanks for reminding me.

That was an ugly game of football by both teams.

The Redskins beat there selves in this game. The boys from the "U" let the team down.

[AlexJones27]

And, I did make the field goals, both of them.
So, now people suk because they kick FG's, lol.
I've never claimed to be the best. I actually think of myself as just average, but what you get from me is a good online experience. Some of the people that post here are really good at the game. If I can get a win from some people here, I consider it an achievement.
As far as feedback, mine is probably just as good as yours.
Played GoodSense, Digital Android, & NJake. Lost to Digital Android bigtime, but doubt you will hear any complaints at all about my game.


My complaint is that you use profanity in the lobby. YOu call me out for no reason. And your not a very good person East Zion. Don't come in hear and act all honest because we know who you are.

[BofaDeezNutts]

Who is he?

[tpaterniti]

lmao at the vets part, either way quick snapping is part of the game, if theyre doing it and you see a hole in your defense then call a timeout.

I agree. Quick snapping is fine. If you need to regroup that's what your timeouts are for. I rarely quick snap as a courtesy to the other player. It is probably more of a sportsmanship thing than a glitch thing.

[BofaDeezNutts]

Numbski,

The point I was trying to make about controlling the D-line is that to those who do, don't really need to do much other than rush the passer, so to them it doesn't matter if they are being quick snapped.

I have no problem with people using D-line man (unless they use the glitch) but, just saying that there responsibilities are fairly simple. So, they don't need to try and read the offense, thus making the quick snap irrelevant to them.

[tpaterniti]

I thought it was a good game, but to me, the cycling thing is for morons.

LMAO at this. In 2K5 people would flash the adjustment buttons while you were trying to kick a FG so you couldn't see as well. This was the most childish thing I had seen in a long time. If you are a good player, don't flash stuff to try to distract people because you are only embarassing yourself. Oh, and BTW the number of FGs I missed as a result of this in 2K5 is right at 0. Kids should play outside and leave the football to the grownups.

[AlexJones27]

LMAO at this. In 2K5 people would flash the adjustment buttons while you were trying to kick a FG so you couldn't see as well. This was the most childish thing I had seen in a long time. If you are a good player, don't flash stuff to try to distract people because you are only embarassing yourself. Oh, and BTW the number of FGs I missed as a result of this in 2K5 is right at 0. Kids should play outside and leave the football to the grownups.



I disagree with this comment. I was accused of doing this by the retard above. It is a false claim with no substance.

[ToyDingo]

I don't see a problem with quick snapping. If I see that my opponent is taking the time that I use to walk to the line to line up his men effectively, why give him that chance?

If my quick snapping gives me an advantage that is not the result of a glitch, why is that a problem?

[AlexJones27]

I don't see a problem with quick snapping. If I see that my opponent is taking the time that I use to walk to the line to line up his men effectively, why give him that chance?

If my quick snapping gives me an advantage that is not the result of a glitch, why is that a problem?


It's not really a problem. It just messes everyones game adjustments

[kod68]

OK the guy who says I cycle through players is just a goon. I mean if you can't make a FG then your not a good player. It's not like i blocked it. Just trying to distract the kick. That is ledgit. There are people that send guys early and block FG and thats not me. Pick your poison dueshbag

No substance? You didn't cycle through your defenders like a spaz?

[Numbski]

Quick snapping would not bother me, if and only if, we were allowed to select who we would be controlling by default coming out of the menu. If I know for fact I'll be controlling my ILB, or safety, or whatever, and didn't have to quickly cycle through my defenders to get to the right player, then quick snap away. That, and I need to file a bug report that says:


if(the player is trying to double-team && presses X within 50 ms of ball snap){
please do not make my defender hit the deck. kthx;
}

[AlexJones27]

No substance? You didn't cycle through your defenders like a spaz?


No it's a conspiracy theory started by you. LOL

[ToyDingo]

if(the player is trying to double-team && presses X within 50 ms of ball snap){
please do not make my defender hit the deck. kthx;
}


LOL, hilarious...

[tpaterniti]

I disagree with this comment. I was accused of doing this by the retard above. It is a false claim with no substance.

Are you disagreeing with my reaction or with the facts, because it definitely looks like you admitted to doing some sort of blinking switching to distract him from kicking a FG. If you did this, then it was childish. That was all I was saying.

[SD21]

Oh God, so people are complaining about their opponents not waiting for them to do Defense adjustments now? What's next, complaining that your opponent didn't let you win?

Seriously, I am not obligated to wait for 10-15 seconds while you manually assign blitzes, zones, and man coverage. If I see that you are doing well with making manual D adjustments, it is my perrogative to take that away from you, and I will. Call it "quick snapping" so you can give it a gimmicky name and call it cheese if you want, but I'm not going to wait and let you double and triple team my HB if I plan on running the ball.

I take the time to hard count and assess the defense if I can't steal your play. But that only takes a couple seconds to do. After that, it's off to the races, if you can't hang with that then don't play me. If I notice you are having great success making adjustments on the fly with the little time I give you, then I am going to give you less time and make you have to pick good plays from the huddle. Too many whiners playing this game.

[kod68]

AJ, you are a complete fool. You admit to cycling to try to distract me, then your next post you say that you never did it and I'm making it up.
I can't even get to you to clearly state your position on what you think about people who do it. Let's pretend for a second that I never said that you did it. Do you or do you not think that it's just a strategy for irritating morons?

[Hotsuma]

... if cycling through players while you are trying to kick bothers you..
why are you playing video games? you obviously need some intense therapy

[kod68]

The whole point is that I thought that, as him being a poster here, and him purporting to be above moronic stuff like that. I didn't expect to see that. That is just lobby scrub stuff. If you want to do, go ahead. But if I know you want to employ those methods, I'll pass on playing you. It is really bush league.

[brownster14]

what was the score? did u win?

[kod68]

Foget the score, but I won. Win or lose doesn't matter, just how you carry yourself during the game. You want to play like a lobby scrub, ok, I'll learn my lesson the first time.

[brownster14]

i was just curious, calm down.... lol

http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/gifs-animated/calm-down.gif

[kod68]

No, I wasn't getting snippity there, Brownster. Just saying. Sorry if I gave that impression somehow.

[brownster14]

lol..... it's cool, i was just having fun!!!!!

u just have to chalk it up to him being immature(if he did all that) and not bother to play him again and to pic ur games a little more wisely.

[AlexJones27]

Actually I won. You got your comment are you happy? You have been stalking me for a long time. Do you have a life?

[kod68]

Now you won the game?, LOL.
The last time I saw you in the lobby you said "How do you know my play style? I never played you."
I'll agree with you on this, your gamertag should be "Gloryhole Bandit"