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darth revan 666
November 14th, 2007, 06:25 PM
Earl Campbell is overpowered, unbalance and cheesy. Any serious leagues should force their participants from using it

I want to know your opinion because I know a guy who believes there is nothing wrong with Campbell and he told me to post that in the forums to prove me that there's no way in the world Earl Campbell is overpowered in this game and everybody agrees with him... my thoughts: :rotfl:

Titans_Matt
November 14th, 2007, 06:32 PM
Um no, he is perfact, the only thing wrong is that Barry Sanders, and Walter Payton aren't better, but he is accurate.

buckdaddy
November 14th, 2007, 06:36 PM
was before the patch but don't know post patch I guess the best advice is get up on the team so the run is not the best option least that's what ill try. but how about a league where everyone uses they same exact players that would show who has more skill at this game at least.

Get Crazy
November 14th, 2007, 06:42 PM
Here's the truth:

I'm playing against mr revan and majority of the game I'm passing, I ran earl 12 times...his complaint wasn't about my running, but the fact that I had him on my team. I'm going to post his messages and my responses, you'll see that his point was about crying more than game play

redbull75
November 14th, 2007, 06:45 PM
Earl is not cheese. He can be contained. He is a bit too fast, but that's about it. Deal with it. Anyway this has been talked about a thousand times.

LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
November 14th, 2007, 06:48 PM
Earl was fast in real life.

Phillip A Bole
November 14th, 2007, 06:52 PM
I don't even care about Campbell. Sayers kicks my ***. He's lanky, he cuts, he has speed, and the last guy I played returned two kickoffs for TD's against me with him. I hate Sayers. Seriously, F. U. C. K. Campbell.

redbull75
November 14th, 2007, 06:54 PM
Never said he wasn't. He's a bit too fast within the context of this game, though. No big deal. Silver and gold safeties or CB's often can not get an angle on him in this game, and often will not catch him from behind. Sanders, Payton, maybe. Not Earl. But like I said it's not to the point of being cheap and unstoppable.
Earl was one of my favorite players.

redbull75
November 14th, 2007, 06:55 PM
I don't even care about Campbell. Sayers kicks my ***. He's lanky, he cuts, he has speed, and the last guy I played returned two kickoffs for TD's against me with him. I hate Sayers. Seriously, F. U. C. K. Campbell.
Sayers has my number, too. lol. I'd rather play against Earl.

darth revan 666
November 14th, 2007, 06:58 PM
well when 3 guys get smashed in the face by him with ease on a single run, dont come and tell me this is sim

Someone
November 14th, 2007, 07:01 PM
Go watch old clips of him running. HE was a beast. He was fast, and he could break tackles(from what I can tell from the old clips because I'm only 17)

darth revan 666
November 14th, 2007, 07:03 PM
Go watch old clips of him running. HE was a beast. He was fast, and he could break tackles(from what I can tell from the old clips because I'm only 17)

Who cares? We are talking about balance

Gameplay>Realism

Phillip A Bole
November 14th, 2007, 07:07 PM
People don't even pretend to remember the old campbell. He was fast, hit people in the face, and ran over them. Sometimes he ran over a few guys. That's just a fact. And frankly, it's not like the Oilers back then had anyone else. I used to watch them play..because of Campbell. I don't use him. However, he did do that much damage. He was mean. I still say Sayers does more damage to me, maybe it's my defense, because I don't care about Cambpell much...but Sayers eats me alive.

dtrain053
November 14th, 2007, 07:14 PM
I don't have an issue with Cambell, Is he alittle skewed maybe MAYBE, but I'll tell you this if Cambell didn't have the health issues he had (Medical reasons are why he retired after only 8 seasons) he could very well be the best RB the game had ever seen. The man was a phenom. He distributed punishment. That's what he was known for.

I'm in the same league as you two. I can't say what WYZA did in your game, but in ours he played fair balanced football. At the end in the 4th Quarter he started grinding with him. He had a lead and wanted to take control of the clock. He did exactly what I would have done with him.

Fact is I couldn't stop him either, but I'm well aware it's the setup of my team not that Cambells Cheese. I have teams setup to stop him and some that simply can't.

redbull75
November 14th, 2007, 07:17 PM
I've had Campbell run literally THROUGH my DL, buck Derrick Thomas, buck McDaniel, then buck Tatum, outrun the rest of my team to my 10 yd line, drag Lloyd into the endzone and score, all without slowing down.
You just gotta chalk it up.
He's gonna get his at some point. But he can be contained.

He's consistently better in this game than he was in real life, but he's not cheesy. He just presents a problem sometimes, like any great RB should.

Gold ratings in this game often speak to how other players fail to make plays on those golds, rather than how those golds make plays themselves. Thats just how the game is.

Get Crazy
November 14th, 2007, 07:24 PM
well when 3 guys get smashed in the face by him with ease on a single run, dont come and tell me this is sim

Its called learn to tackle manually, if you let the cpu tackle for you, EARL's GONNA PUNCH THEM IN THE FACE. When you was running on me, it was b/c I wasn't fast enough to get to your HB that was running thru the tackles of my cpu controlled defenders...did I complain or say the guy was overpower? No, I know that I can't depend on the cpu to make tackles no matter what zone I have out there, I have to manually stop him myself and hope the cpu helps

**** happens, I didn't even run with him much...so are you saying I abused him? Or are you saying its cheese to have him on my team b/c since you have to key on him, you can't defend the pass...which one is it?

Titans_Matt
November 14th, 2007, 07:25 PM
Never said he wasn't. He's a bit too fast within the context of this game, though. No big deal. Silver and gold safeties or CB's often can not get an angle on him in this game, and often will not catch him from behind. Sanders, Payton, maybe. Not Earl. But like I said it's not to the point of being cheap and unstoppable.
Earl was one of my favorite players.

He did outrun Safties all the time though, not CB's, but he did outrun safties, he was very fast once he put on pads.

Valdarez
November 14th, 2007, 07:28 PM
Campbell is steal mean, and hard to contain with a player that knows how to run, but then, any player is... I don't see anything wrong with using Campbell at all.

Phillip A Bole
November 14th, 2007, 07:29 PM
I don't have an issue with Cambell, Is he alittle skewed maybe MAYBE, but I'll tell you this if Cambell didn't have the health issues he had (Medical reasons are why he retired after only 8 seasons) he could very well be the best RB the game had ever seen. The man was a phenom. He distributed punishment. That's what he was known for.

Off topic, but if you talk about health issues, what about Bo Jackson. He would have been the best running back we ever saw.

Phillip A Bole
November 14th, 2007, 07:31 PM
I've had Campbell run literally THROUGH my DL, buck Derrick Thomas, buck McDaniel, then buck Tatum, outrun the rest of my team to my 10 yd line, drag Lloyd into the endzone and score, all without slowing down.
You just gotta chalk it up.
He's gonna get his at some point. But he can be contained.

He's consistently better in this game than he was in real life, but he's not cheesy. He just presents a problem sometimes, like any great RB should.

Gold ratings in this game often speak to how other players fail to make plays on those golds, rather than how those golds make plays themselves. Thats just how the game is.

Solid post man. When I play against campbell I know he's gonna get his. It's like any great player. I key my D on him and hope he doesn't totally explode. In the meantime, you just contain the other guys, and hope your offense is good enough. Your post was very well thought out, and I totally agree. Totally. Containment, but he's gonna get his. Well said.

Titans_Matt
November 14th, 2007, 07:33 PM
Guys this is the only thing that is not accurate about Campbell.


He was great at breaking tackles, but the unrealistic part is that every play on this game is like a highlight reel. In real life if you stacked the box with about 9 or so, then you could bring him down, but on this game you can't. Yes, he could break 3 tackles a play at least, but he couldnt do it if 4 guys were in the backfield instantly. Thats the only thing thats unrealistic about this game, because he did get caught in the backfield sometimes.

Phillip A Bole
November 14th, 2007, 07:33 PM
He did outrun Safties all the time though, not CB's, but he did outrun safties, he was very fast once he put on pads.

It don't matter, once Campbell got into the backfield, does anyone really think a CB or a Safety is gonna tackle him? Let's be real. I saw him run in real life. I don't think so.

Phillip A Bole
November 14th, 2007, 07:36 PM
Guys this is the only thing that is not accurate about Campbell.


He was great at breaking tackles, but the unrealistic part is that every play on this game is like a highlight reel. In real life if you stacked the box with about 9 or so, then you could bring him down, but on this game you can't. Yes, he could break 3 tackles a play at least, but he couldnt do it if 4 guys were in the backfield instantly. Thats the only thing thats unrealistic about this game, because he did get caught in the backfield sometimes.

What you said is totally untrue. In real life when Campbell played for the Oilers, they totally sucked, through his whole career. No good QB, no good WR's. EVERYONE stacked the line on him. You act like it's unfair in the game...well in real life he had huge big fat dudes wanting to crush him, stacking the line, every single play, watch the video...they knew he was getting the ball...and he ran by them or over them. That's just a fact.

dtrain053
November 14th, 2007, 07:40 PM
Off topic, but if you talk about health issues, what about Bo Jackson. He would have been the best running back we ever saw.

Ahhh yes another great that had his career cut short. Problem with Jackson was he couldn't pick a sport. He split both seasons. People forget he never played the first few weeks of the season. (He was playing Baseball) Thats why I can't say he woulda been the best. He would never be and everydown back.

Big M
November 14th, 2007, 07:41 PM
Campbell isn't cheese for this reason (and it's not that I have him; I could have any other gold RB on my team and be happy): I know from experience that people can shut him down bad. I've have been shut down with Earl more times than I've had 100 yd games with him. Might be me, might be who I'm playing, but Earl Campbell can be shut down if someone can call the right plays on D.

I just watched some of the clip on youtube and he is a BEAST.

Valdarez
November 14th, 2007, 09:07 PM
Earl in action...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdvVaTbwMrE

Titans_Matt
November 14th, 2007, 11:13 PM
What you said is totally untrue. In real life when Campbell played for the Oilers, they totally sucked, through his whole career. No good QB, no good WR's. EVERYONE stacked the line on him. You act like it's unfair in the game...well in real life he had huge big fat dudes wanting to crush him, stacking the line, every single play, watch the video...they knew he was getting the ball...and he ran by them or over them. That's just a fact.

First off, the Oilers didn't suck, he played in many playoff games, and it wasn't just him who got them there, he did contribute a lot, but it was the Oilers who made it to the playoffs. Also the Oilers when he played had an excellent OL.

Have you even seen him play.

I have seen multiple seasons of his, and let me tell you, people stacked the line pretty much every single play, he got through 50-50, not all the time, he got through the defense about half the time (with the exception of his 1980 season). In the game he gets through every time, not half the time.

Now Earl is my favorite player of all-time, and I think he would have been along with Jim Brown in the discussions for the greatests player of All-Time if his health didn't fall. But he wasn't invincable, in the 1979 playoffs the Pittsburg Steelers stacked the line every play, and held him to only 15 yards because they were in the backfield every play.

You need to find a full season of film on Earl at least, before you make empty statements like that

Get Crazy
November 14th, 2007, 11:34 PM
people stacked the line pretty much every single play, he got through 50-50, not all the time, he got through the defense about half the time (with the exception of his 1980 season). In the game he gets through every time, not half the time.

Not true at all and I'll explain why in the next...

But he wasn't invincable, in the 1979 playoffs the Pittsburg Steelers stacked the line every play, and held him to only 15 yards because they were in the backfield every play.

Same thing applies for the game, stack the line or try to stop him in the back field. Its the same as with EVERY HB in the game, once you let them get their motor running and they get out the back field that's when their attritubes kick in...if you stop them before they can use the attributes, well, then you have damn near a generic HB

But every once in a while Earl will break one of those tackles in the backfield...and that to me actually is realism

JHova1982
November 15th, 2007, 12:22 AM
earl is not fast on this game and definitely not faster than barry oj or gale. i have no problems stopping earl. them other 3 running backs i name them the ones i have trouble stopping because they are too fast for there own good

Gunther
November 15th, 2007, 02:16 AM
Ahhh yes another great that had his career cut short. Problem with Jackson was he couldn't pick a sport. He split both seasons. People forget he never played the first few weeks of the season. (He was playing Baseball) Thats why I can't say he woulda been the best. He would never be and everydown back.

Bo was the best ever.... He played on a team coached by Art Shell. Playing for that idiot should count for something, he is the worst coach ever. Marcus Allen a hall of famer would be averaging 3 maybe 4 yards a carry and Bo would come in after baseball and start running for well over 5 yards a pop. In pads he was faster than any DB and could run over anyone on the field. IF he had played a full 10 years 160 games he would have crushed all the records and probably broke over 40 runs of 80 yards or more. No one could sniff Bo's physical talent at RB. Its not even close. He was destined to get hurt though. He ran so hard and fast with such force he would have probably ended up in a wheel chair or paralyzing someone else in a head on. I was always waiting for him to hit head to head and break a helmet in two.

dtrain053
November 15th, 2007, 06:27 AM
Bo was the best ever.... He played on a team coached by Art Shell. Playing for that idiot should count for something, he is the worst coach ever. Marcus Allen a hall of famer would be averaging 3 maybe 4 yards a carry and Bo would come in after baseball and start running for well over 5 yards a pop. In pads he was faster than any DB and could run over anyone on the field. IF he had played a full 10 years 160 games he would have crushed all the records and probably broke over 40 runs of 80 yards or more. No one could sniff Bo's physical talent at RB. Its not even close. He was destined to get hurt though. He ran so hard and fast with such force he would have probably ended up in a wheel chair or paralyzing someone else in a head on. I was always waiting for him to hit head to head and break a helmet in two.

I'm just saying he only broke 1000 yards in one season, he never played more then 11 games, and was never the full time starter. Did he have the talent to be the best ever? Yes. I wasn't saying that. Just saying he was never gonna be an everydown back in the NFL by his own choosing. I think that has to factor in. The great ones want the rock every down every minute, every game. Bo didn't.

darth revan 666
November 15th, 2007, 02:31 PM
Same thing applies for the game, stack the line or try to stop him in the back field. Its the same as with EVERY HB in the game, once you let them get their motor running and they get out the back field that's when their attritubes kick in...if you stop them before they can use the attributes, well, then you have damn near a generic HB

But every once in a while Earl will break one of those tackles in the backfield...and that to me actually is realism

I stacked players all over the place and I MANUALLY tried to stop him, Im actually pretty good at stopping the run. Remember the great player that was Numa Takeda back in the 2k5 days? I was playing him in a league and he average over 150 yards a game with L.Tomlinson and was dominating the league. Well I played him and I contained him with 85 yards on the ground. Dont come and tell I don't know how to stop the run, look at my V.I.P. and I have no problem aginst the run. Its actually the thing Im best at. But still, Campbell managed to break tackles in the backfield many times. Im gonna to correct myself, he might not be cheesy BUT from a gameplay(like I early said Gameplay>Realism) point of view he is without a question unbalanced.

Darkheath
November 15th, 2007, 04:08 PM
I played two games against Earl last night and did pretty well. He was held to about 20 yards in 13 carries in the first game (though to be fair, I got a good lead early and he started passing a lot) and probably 50-60 in the second game. But I have had as much success against him as I do against other gold backs. The word "containment" can apply to any RB.

I don't find him "cheesy" at all. Yeah.. he busts a few.. and had a few good hard runs against me... but I got 200 yards with Billy Sims in the same game last night (93 on one play though) so other backs can have great games, too.

Get Crazy
November 15th, 2007, 04:25 PM
I stacked players all over the place and I MANUALLY tried to stop him, Im actually pretty good at stopping the run. Remember the great player that was Numa Takeda back in the 2k5 days? I was playing him in a league and he average over 150 yards a game with L.Tomlinson and was dominating the league. Well I played him and I contained him with 85 yards on the ground. Dont come and tell I don't know how to stop the run, look at my V.I.P. and I have no problem aginst the run. Its actually the thing Im best at. But still, Campbell managed to break tackles in the backfield many times. Im gonna to correct myself, he might not be cheesy BUT from a gameplay(like I early said Gameplay>Realism) point of view he is without a question unbalanced.

Again, you're saying it as tho I ran all day on you...you're whole arguement was that you couldn't stop the pass b/c you had to keep an eye on Earl...that right there is jus crying. Its YOUR fault that you choose to key on Earl while I passed all happy in the game. Its YOUR fault that you showed passing defenses when you thought the pass was coming...so that's when its time to run

A wise man (tpat) once told me, "if you're not predictable in your play calling, it will open up holes for the run game"...well, it seems like that worked in this case lol

darth revan 666
November 15th, 2007, 06:09 PM
Again, you're saying it as tho I ran all day on you...you're whole arguement was that you couldn't stop the pass b/c you had to keep an eye on Earl...that right there is jus crying. Its YOUR fault that you choose to key on Earl while I passed all happy in the game. Its YOUR fault that you showed passing defenses when you thought the pass was coming...so that's when its time to run

A wise man (tpat) once told me, "if you're not predictable in your play calling, it will open up holes for the run game"...well, it seems like that worked in this case lol

Remember the 4th quarter? You were running all the time while I kept bringing 8 guys in the box. Still, it didn't worked . Also, I never said you abused of Campbell, I said he is UNBALANCE and its cheap and lazy to play with him because it requires no skill to smash the Y button.

Titans_Matt
November 15th, 2007, 06:19 PM
Remember the 4th quarter? You were running all the time while I kept bringing 8 guys in the box. Still, it didn't worked . Also, I never said you abused of Campbell, I said he is UNBALANCE and its cheap and lazy to play with him because it requires no skill to smash the Y button.


You sound very ignorant to the game of football.


So in your mind, "Oh Tom Brady is cheating because it requires no skill to throw the ball 40 yards up to Randy Moss."

:rolleyes:

Get Crazy
November 15th, 2007, 11:30 PM
Remember the 4th quarter? You were running all the time while I kept bringing 8 guys in the box. Still, it didn't worked . Also, I never said you abused of Campbell, I said he is UNBALANCE and its cheap and lazy to play with him because it requires no skill to smash the Y button.

Earl had a total of what, 14 carries? He probably ran the ball what 5 times in the 4th? Check the play by play, I was still passing in the 4th and only ran the ball when the game was over to drain the clock. So now you're saying that its not me that played unfair...its the fact that earl is on my team that has you upset? Like seriously, rethink your arguement

nepharius4
November 16th, 2007, 01:54 AM
Earl will be in the game today, was in the game yesterday and will remain in the game tomorrow, just play the game.

darth revan 666
November 16th, 2007, 11:44 AM
Earl had a total of what, 14 carries? He probably ran the ball what 5 times in the 4th? Check the play by play, I was still passing in the 4th and only ran the ball when the game was over to drain the clock. So now you're saying that its not me that played unfair...its the fact that earl is on my team that has you upset? Like seriously, rethink your arguement


I NEVER said you ran too much with Campbell Idiot. Its like the 4th Im telling you now that Campbell is UNBALANCED and is way too easy to play with,. thats all Im ****ing saying. But still you doesn't seem to get the point yet.

Get Crazy
November 16th, 2007, 04:04 PM
I NEVER said you ran too much with Campbell Idiot. Its like the 4th Im telling you now that Campbell is UNBALANCED and is way too easy to play with,. thats all Im ****ing saying. But still you doesn't seem to get the point yet.

Ok, so now we resort to name calling when you decide that the point of you making this thread was outdone...nice

Your message to me (after I sent you a GG) was, "cambell is cheesey, you don't deserve my respect"...but now I didn't run too much with him? Make up your mind. What about him is cheesey if I didn't use him much? Oh, he breaks tackles...WELCOME TO FOOTBALL everyone breaks tackles. Your guy break a ton of tackles with his BT ability...your point is weak...jus give it up

Phillip A Bole
November 16th, 2007, 05:35 PM
I would like to give my opinion, take it or leave it. I think we've all had games where he runs for tons of yardage, and games where he seems to be shut down. The difference is in the quality of opponents, what formations they use, etc. It isn't Campbell, in my opinion. If someone runs for 200 yards with Campbell, they most likely would have ran up close to 200 with another gold back as well. That has been my experience. There are some good--no, great--running players in this game and there are some really weak running players. There are players who mix it up, and players who run almost exclusively; players who throw screens, others who throw outs, others who run up the midde, some who run tosses, and still others who use a jumbo package. That is what makes him so hard to stop...the way in which he is used.

No matter how good you are, you can't be great at stopping every type of play in every type of formation every single time. So players tend to remember Campbell running for 150 plus yards, and that's what they remember...but they forget the last time they faced Campbell and he only ran for 50 (because in that game they got torched by Rice and that week Rice was overpowered).

theshiznetno1
November 16th, 2007, 06:02 PM
No matter how good you are, you can't be great at stopping every type of play in every type of formation every single time. So players tend to remember Campbell running for 150 plus yards, and that's what they remember...but they forget the last time they faced Campbell and he only ran for 50 (because in that game they got torched by Rice and that week Rice was overpowered).

Great post. Agree 100%:thumbsup:

Get Crazy
November 16th, 2007, 06:55 PM
I would like to give my opinion, take it or leave it. I think we've all had games where he runs for tons of yardage, and games where he seems to be shut down. The difference is in the quality of opponents, what formations they use, etc. It isn't Campbell, in my opinion. If someone runs for 200 yards with Campbell, they most likely would have ran up close to 200 with another gold back as well. That has been my experience. There are some good--no, great--running players in this game and there are some really weak running players. There are players who mix it up, and players who run almost exclusively; players who throw screens, others who throw outs, others who run up the midde, some who run tosses, and still others who use a jumbo package. That is what makes him so hard to stop...the way in which he is used.

No matter how good you are, you can't be great at stopping every type of play in every type of formation every single time. So players tend to remember Campbell running for 150 plus yards, and that's what they remember...but they forget the last time they faced Campbell and he only ran for 50 (because in that game they got torched by Rice and that week Rice was overpowered).

I love it 321

amid
November 16th, 2007, 07:10 PM
I love it 321

re: Who agree with that statement

what that numbers mean

Get Crazy
November 16th, 2007, 09:09 PM
re: Who agree with that statement

what that numbers mean

Lol finally someone asks...

Those numbers are basically spot fillers since each message needs to me a minimum of 10 characters

darth revan 666
November 16th, 2007, 09:36 PM
Ok, so now we resort to name calling when you decide that the point of you making this thread was outdone...nice

Your message to me (after I sent you a GG) was, "cambell is cheesey, you don't deserve my respect"...but now I didn't run too much with him? Make up your mind. What about him is cheesey if I didn't use him much? Oh, he breaks tackles...WELCOME TO FOOTBALL everyone breaks tackles. Your guy break a ton of tackles with his BT ability...your point is weak...jus give it up

Ok, when you write on xbox live its hard for me and you to elaborate on the why and on the what, I thought "campbell is cheesy" was the fastest way to show you my point. So obviously, I haven't expressed myself well.

Anyway, I think Campbell is very unbalanced and heres the proof: Have you seen ANY leagues out there without having Campbell being the leader in the rushing yards?

Get Crazy
November 16th, 2007, 09:47 PM
Ok, when you write on xbox live its hard for me and you to elaborate on the why and on the what, I thought "campbell is cheesy" was the fastest way to show you my point. So obviously, I haven't expressed myself well.

Anyway, I think Campbell is very unbalanced and heres the proof: Have you seen ANY leagues out there without having Campbell being the leader in the rushing yards?

What does any of this have to do you saying that I don't deserve respect?

amid
November 16th, 2007, 09:54 PM
Lol finally someone asks...

Those numbers are basically spot fillers since each message needs to me a minimum of 10 characters

Get Crazy - you know i had a few postings that were less than 10 characters, but i just said forget it... i like the way you handled it... brilliant! i guess you are not afraid of the Big Cheese? this does seem like 'getting around the 10 character minimum' cheese to me.

hey anyway,

speaking of the 10 character minimum requirement... i did commend titans_matt for blowing right past it!

http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147301


hey thanks for answering my question!

darth revan 666
November 17th, 2007, 09:04 AM
What does any of this have to do you saying that I don't deserve respect?


I dont like lazy people :)

And answer my question plz:)

Get Crazy
November 17th, 2007, 09:51 AM
Please don't fall victum to your own words. Your HB has BT and power, you didn't pull off any move, jus tapped the A button to break tackles...would this make you lazy as well? Do you not like yourself as well? And to answer your question, its my 1st league, and I don't look at other ppl's stuff, so NO, I don't see him leading in rushing in very other league

But look at this amazing stat...that same league...SFL, my last 2 oppenents held me to 70 and 60 rushing yards with Earl, and that was with my TRYING to run the ball

Could you please jus give it up already?

darth revan 666
November 17th, 2007, 10:11 AM
Yes, I give up if thats what please you but don't you think its anormal to see Campbell being number 1 rusher in all the leagues?

Get Crazy
November 17th, 2007, 10:12 AM
Furthermore, I don't even play with earl anymore. Gale is mUCH better and a lot more fun to play with. I'm getting more yards and pulling off more moves with him

Someone
November 17th, 2007, 10:18 AM
Furthermore, I don't even play with earl anymore. Gale is mUCH better and a lot more fun to play with. I'm getting more yards and pulling off more moves with him

Yeah no joke. You ran all over me, and shut me down completly. :( I made a completly new team because of the beating you put on me. I'm waiting to try them out on TJ.

LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
November 17th, 2007, 10:28 AM
Furthermore, I don't even play with earl anymore. Gale is mUCH better and a lot more fun to play with. I'm getting more yards and pulling off more moves with him

Exactly, IMO Earl may be more effective, but guys like Gale Sayers are much more fun to play with.

Get Crazy
November 17th, 2007, 10:45 AM
Exactly, IMO Earl may be more effective, but guys like Gale Sayers are much more fun to play with.

Not valid til he plays online

LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
November 17th, 2007, 11:01 AM
It is more fun. Back when I had Xbox Live, I played APF online, and I used the right stick to shake and bake, and it was really fun. So it is valid.

Get Crazy
November 17th, 2007, 11:15 AM
It is more fun. Back when I had Xbox Live, I played APF online, and I used the right stick to shake and bake, and it was really fun. So it is valid.

Ok and you had how many games after the patch?

Codenamemighty
November 17th, 2007, 06:56 PM
Earl Campbell is not a cheese..It is how you use him and play with him in your formations. I basically gear my defense to stopped the run and apply pressure on the QB. If I see a Gold HB then I know to focus my defense on the Gold RB. You will just have to beat me passing. and I believe If I pressure the QB all game while blitzing the RB your QB will make a mistake. So I make people go away from there game plans.

AlexJones27
November 18th, 2007, 07:20 AM
I have OJ issues. LOL

Bl00d h0und Gang
November 19th, 2007, 12:19 AM
I think the reason why Earl Campbell is a more effective back than other gold RBs is because his special abilities are better suited for onlin matches. All of Earl's abilities are very relevant to a match played at 5 min quarters. Some abilities just aren't important to a game played at 5 min quarters i.e. Durablilty Bonus, which is more favorable over the course of a whole season. Even Leadership is not so important for online matches. My thinking is that Leadership has a greater effect the more plays a team sees (and offsides/ false start penalties). Also, never have I seen anyone utilize the Goaline Dive w/ Emmit or Walter. Which is great for any 3rd/ 4th down and 1 or less, yardage situation.

Get Crazy
November 19th, 2007, 01:43 AM
I think the reason why Earl Campbell is a more effective back than other gold RBs is because his special abilities are better suited for onlin matches. All of Earl's abilities are very relevant to a match played at 5 min quarters. Some abilities just aren't important to a game played at 5 min quarters i.e. Durablilty Bonus, which is more favorable over the course of a whole season. Even Leadership is not so important for online matches. My thinking is that Leadership has a greater effect the more plays a team sees (and offsides/ false start penalties). Also, never have I seen anyone utilize the Goaline Dive w/ Emmit or Walter. Which is great for any 3rd/ 4th down and 1 or less, yardage situation.

Gale Sayers should be renamed to The GOAT...he's way better than Earl in this game...I'm never using earl again...3 days of Gale, 11 special teams TDs...he breaks tons of tackles, he's stupid fast and he does some nice *** movies...oh oh oh...and and, the man can catch

Bowdown
November 19th, 2007, 01:24 PM
You guys stole my thunder, I was assuming you were talking about Njake league and I was going to say to Darth to wait and play Njake he has a really good running game with OJ but he played him already.

I have played both Crazy and Njake, I felt to be more on my toes with Njake and his running game to focus on stopping his running then when I played Crazy and Campbell. Crazy ran over 100 yrds on me but kept Njake below 100's. So go figuere.

Get Crazy
November 19th, 2007, 04:21 PM
I have played both Crazy and Njake, I felt to be more on my toes with Njake and his running game to focus on stopping his running then when I played Crazy and Campbell. Crazy ran over 100 yrds on me but kept Njake below 100's. So go figuere.

Welp sir, you know I've been a good runner since the 2k5 days, jus as well as I've know you to play great D. 100 yards by me shouldn't surprise anyone...you should see me with Gale, I'm getting better with him by the day

8 kickoff, 1 punt and 1 FG return with Gale and counting