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TyrantT316
December 13th, 2007, 09:25 AM
You know what would be nice? A free roam training mode.

I am talking giving us a large open gym. Maybe two gyms:

GYM 1 = high class, the latest equipment, carpeting, two stories/floors, air conditioning, glass cases, heavy clean/like new heavy bag, speed bag, mitt man etc.

GYM 2 = old school, down and dirty, concrete floor, classic paper fight posters, old hanging heavy bag duck taped, speed bags, free weights, mitt man, etc.

So you simply walk into the gym and everything is up to you. There's no selecting "train power, train speed" from a list.

If you want to train power, you walk up to the heavy bag and actually throw power shots. But that's not the ONLY way to train power. Get a little physical leg and upper-body strength with free weights/weight machines. A bit of punching power will also come from technique, so you would train with the mitt man to work on technique.

If you want to train speed, you may walk up to the speed bag and start going. The better you perform on the speed bag, the more your speed will increase. Speed is also trained through technique and conditioning. So to get max speed training, you need to include more mitt work and some cardio.

In order for your fighter to be effective in training, he will need to be healthy. Train him too hard and you will feel it. He may start getting sluggish in training (you can notice this in the way he moves, etc). Don't train him enough or push yourself in the gym, you will notice that too.

Sparring will tell the tale too. If you haven't trained enough, maybe your energy zaps quickly, letting you know you have more work to do.

This would all be based on a "Weeks to the fight." system. You control when you train. How you train. Whether you decide to push yourself or not. Whether you over-trained to make weight. Etc...

I think this kind of free form training would define "next gen" in sports gaming. If anyone here has played Grand Theft Auto San Andreas and found the gym in that game, you may have an idea of how I envision this.

You start in the morning and have all day (game time) to do what you need. You can leave whenever you want. Once you leave, then your training is done for the day. So this somewhat challenges the gamer to see whether they are willing to put in the time and effort into what goes on between the fights.

I think of this because 2K is looking to really bring out the experience not only IN the ring but OUT of the ring. I think it is something to consider for future installments.

This would be a welcome addition in my eyes. A great departure from "tournament" style career modes found in previous boxing games. Meaning you won't have a 30-0 fighter from 2 (real life) days of playing the game. Make it authentic.

Hartland Gators
December 13th, 2007, 09:37 AM
that'd be hot

gotiye
December 13th, 2007, 11:39 AM
that'd be a great start to any boxing game. I think it'd be better if there were more than 2 gyms but the idea is solid......................
every gym has a different style of training depending on the region and country....................
it might be difficult to pull of to the point where it's interactive and easy to use but it's a great idea......................

switchupsouthpaw
December 13th, 2007, 11:59 AM
I can see it working, esp. if in your early career you fight every 15 to 30 days if you want to. A lot of fighters fresh out of the amatuers or new profesionals fight once a month, sometimes every 15 days. If they have an easy fight they might fight again in 2 weeks, if the fight was more difficult it could be 30 days before thier next fight, and I think if you lose a fight by k.o you have to wait 60 to 90 days before you can get sanctioned to fight. As fighters careers go on over the years they fight less, with older champions fighting once a year for main events against mandatorys, but they could fight more frequently against lessor opponents just to get some paydays and to stay in decent shape.

Training in your youth is easier and more benificial, whereas training in older age takes longer for less reward, unless training with dedication and hard to keep up your stats. If the user doesnt feel like going into training camp and training everday leading up to fights his stats dont go down much, but they shouldn't raise and it should also affect his mentality for the fight. Lowering his heart and desire to win. When a fighters heart and desire is low it leave them suseptable to being beaten by a lesser opponent simply because the other wants it more, they are more hungry for the win.

They really need to have a calander system in the game, which I am sure they will. And a better ranking system. Where you can set a fight against anyone from 20 - 100, and once you get into the top 20 u can fight anyone from 11 - 100. Once in the top 10 you can fight anyone from 2 - 100. Your skills and stats should advance from training and not from the level of fighter you fight. Rather have some other tangible effect from constantly advancing up the rankings. If you always test yourself and fight people ranked higher than you it would add to your popularity ranking, and get you noticed by a champ quicker, open up better corner men and trainers, and bigger fight purses.

As far as the way your fighters skills decline... it needs to be realistic. and if I train hard I want to hold on to my skills. Esp if I have been dedicated to training over my whole career, I dont want to all the sudden just start dropping skill levels and stats. Powers should be the last one to go.

agnthvc
December 13th, 2007, 12:36 PM
that is a great idea. but let hope that 2k has put it in the game before this was posted.

sampsonthestrong
December 13th, 2007, 07:53 PM
That's a brilliant idea! :thumbsup: That would definitely work!

LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
December 14th, 2007, 12:30 PM
I really like the idea, because it would add so much more depth to the game.

TyrantT316
December 22nd, 2007, 12:56 PM
I really like the idea, because it would add so much more depth to the game.

Yes it would. Basically taking that "RPG" like approach.

Ghetto Phenom
December 22nd, 2007, 01:14 PM
As fighters careers go on over the years they fight less, with older champions fighting once a year for main events against mandatorys, but they could fight more frequently against lessor opponents just to get some paydays and to stay in decent shape.

It all sounds great, except this part I quoted. The fact that established champions often only fight once or twice per year is part of what's wrong with boxing. It's realistic, but I think once you reach contender/champion status, you should be able to fight anywhere between once and five times per year (dependent on health). It's rare nowadays for fighters to fight that much, but look at Sam Peter, who fought five times in 2005 or Hasim Rahman, who fought four times in 2007 trying to comeback after he lost his belt to Maskaev.

It'd be great if you could have the options to do commercials or obtain bit parts in movies or even do charity work in between fights and training. An RPC and boxing game wrapped into one. Seems like 2K is headed that way in a sense, but if they can actually pull it off on the first try, I'll be geeked.

CUFreeze
December 22nd, 2007, 01:27 PM
Wow I did not see this before I made my post. This is exactly what I have been talking about since FN 1.

The RPG aspect of this will make the game even better. Throw a left hook on the heavy bag and your left hook rating increases slightly. Combine this with linking it to XBOX Live so you can compete against others the different training routines.

I envision much like the original poster probably that this would be set in 3rd person view and not too zoomed in. A camera angle that would allow you to see your entire boxer and freely move around the gym as well as the equipment. It would be nice to be able to circle, back away and move in towards a heavy bag as opposed to being locked in one position.

CzanMan
December 25th, 2007, 08:12 PM
that would be ill

Carebare
December 27th, 2007, 06:39 AM
Tyrant, I don't know how the training will work, but I do know that you best be gettin ya azz in shape cuz your on my hitlist son.

I'm the truth and a legend in the sport of video game boxing!!

When you get done fighting me you will throw your controller through your T.V. from
anger and rage cuz you know I can't be touched...can't be stopped....can't be rocked.