why does roger craig suck?

[Hotsuma]

Seriously he was a Running back.. and he could run the ball.. But in this game he sucks.. I mean you cant really break tackles with him.. and if you do.. its random..

But he makes one hell of a WR..

But i still use him :( lol trying to force the run with him

[Gunther]

Why Does Roger Craig Suck?


He is from San Fran isnt he?

[Changeup]

Craig was the first RB I had on my first team but he really sucks unless your in love with throwing RB dump offs all the time.
He's too slow can't break tackles , can't juke , can't shoulder charge, all he can do is catch.

[Tuboware67]

I dunno why they made him suck so bad. He was a pretty decent running back IRL.

[TheRainboWarior]

... He is my favorite silver back. Talk a bout a lot of 100 100 games, he is my man. A great reciever and not a bad finesse back imo. I use him on my team with:

Gem QB.

Rob Moore
Rocket Ismail
Mack Strong (FB) Leadership!

[TheRainboWarior]

Use him correctly, and he wins games for ya :)

[Tuboware67]

Use him correctly, and he wins games for ya :)

You can say that about any player in the game. Im sure its not that he isnt using him right, it just that Roger Craig isnt that good in this game. Not when you can get gold backs like Billy Sims, Otis Anderson, Rickey Watters, Chris Warren, Curt Warner, and a few others.

[TheRainboWarior]

... I have used Billy Simms, Ottis, and Warner, so much, always switchign them out, Craig runs just as fast as Sims, gets tired less then Anderson, and has a nasty spin, he is a great reciever, he is not that.

[Hotsuma]

Alot of the running backs in this game suck. They go down with one hit. I dont know why because usually a running back needs more then one person to bring him down especially if he was a legend....

[TheRainboWarior]

Did you ever watch Craig play? It didnt take much to take him down, he was shifty,small, and had a nice spin move, but if someone hits him, he is going down. He had great hands andwas top two for his team in Recps and Recp yards many years, he was a great recieving back, and yes he could run the ball, but his average was always near a four, and he didnt have ton of 1000 yard rushing years, but he was not a bad back, and I think 2k did a GREAT job of representing him ins this game. Did you choose him and run him like he was a workhorse? Use him in Flex sets where he is lined up at WR he makes HUGE Plays. I just played a game with him he had 111 Recieving yards, 121 rushing yards, 3 TDs total. This was against a guy ranked in 200s.

[FLAxWLESS]

Just like Marcus Allen. I love Allen but he sucks compared to other golds. He is a way better runner than in the game.

[LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS]

Marcus Allen is actually really good in this game.

How good a HB is depends on your style of play. You can't pick Marcus Allen thinking that he can just truck everybody over. He was a cutback kinda guy.

[FLAxWLESS]

Marcus Allen is actually really good in this game.

How good a HB is depends on your style of play. You can't pick Marcus Allen thinking that he can just truck everybody over. He was a cutback kinda guy.

He hardly ever breaks the 1st tackle... he's performs like a bronze WR if you split him out wide and is practically money coming out of the backfield, but as a RB he is not a game changing RB like other golds.

[butterknife26]

I agree he's mediocre at running. I'd rather have Natrone Means.

[Bl00d h0und Gang]

Anyone that uses Craig should have these two formations in their playbook:

Gun: Base Open

Empty: Base

These formations will have your RB line up as a WR. If your opponent is in a base defense then you'll have Craig matched up against a LB.

[TheRainboWarior]

There are a bunch of other formations where he is lined up at WR also.

[theshiznetno1]

When I made my WCO team, Craig was the shiznet. He would rush for at least 80 and catch for at least 100.

[nyknicks33]

No problem using Roger Craig at all either. Roger Craig wasnt a "workhorse" type back..he got his ground yardage after the 9ers would establish their short passing game...they'd then use roger once this had softened up the D and established a lead.

Roger Craig wasnt a 25 carry a game and run play action off of him type back.

A typical Roger Craig game was 75 yards rushing 40 yard recieving stat line, with the ocassional 110 yard explosion mixed in.

[Hotsuma]

I know he is not a every down type of back.. But he broke Tackles..


Rams vs 49ers game anyone????


He broke tackles. Maybe not liek Earl Campbell But he did break tackles off of corner backs.


Thats my only real problem with him I cant break a tackle off Cbs or Generic Safties

[ToyDingo]

I don't know about this game, but back in Tecmo Bowl for the NES Roger Craig was the shiznet...

[LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS]

He hardly ever breaks the 1st tackle... he's performs like a bronze WR if you split him out wide and is practically money coming out of the backfield, but as a RB he is not a game changing RB like other golds.

He isn't a run you over type back, I hope you know that. He cuts back through the holes, and just branches the tackles.

It seems like some of you guys' only move with a HB is the shoulder charge. You have to run with him just like he ran in real life.

Its just like people trying to shoulder charge with Barry Sanders online.

[saviour2k8]

He isn't a run you over type back, I hope you know that. He cuts back through the holes, and just branches the tackles.

It seems like some of you guys' only move with a HB is the shoulder charge. You have to run with him just like he ran in real life.

Its just like people trying to shoulder charge with Barry Sanders online.


Bingo. Some people cant run the ball unless the can break tackles. If you follow your blockers you can run with every running back in this game. (Maybe not Dave Meggett because he is a softy and goes down on first contact)

The breaking tackling style running is so "arcadey" its a shame because it kills the sim element. Its not realistic in any manner to see open tackles missed with the regularity that you see in the 2k games. You rarely see that in the NFL and when you do its a great play. You have wrap up tacklers missing wrap up tackles!!!! I hope they change this to reward the defense at some point as the tackling mechanics in this game leaves alot to be desired.

[mcgtady]

he is pretty damn good when i played someone good with him

[Hotsuma]

Bingo. Some people cant run the ball unless the can break tackles. If you follow your blockers you can run with every running back in this game. (Maybe not Dave Meggett because he is a softy and goes down on first contact)

The breaking tackling style running is so "arcadey" its a shame because it kills the sim element. Its not realistic in any manner to see open tackles missed with the regularity that you see in the 2k games. You rarely see that in the NFL and when you do its a great play. You have wrap up tacklers missing wrap up tackles!!!! I hope they change this to reward the defense at some point as the tackling mechanics in this game leaves alot to be desired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI-xUCMwUGk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIMO57AZK0I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND3MiXW98qE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_P8DGTpAs


Buddy it is not easy to tackle a running back ONE on ONE...

I dont wanna break 50 tackles with him..

I wanna break off atleast 1 tackle with him when a Generic Corner comes to tackle me...

[saviour2k8]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI-xUCMwUGk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIMO57AZK0I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND3MiXW98qE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX_P8DGTpAs


Buddy it is not easy to tackle a running back ONE on ONE...

I dont wanna break 50 tackles with him..

I wanna break off atleast 1 tackle with him when a Generic Corner comes to tackle me...

A highlight reel is just that....A HIGHLIGHT REEL. Anyone can string together a highlight reel but that does not mean that a tackle is broken or missed on every play. The majority of Linebackers are bigger than the majority of Halfbacks and they usually take the guy down on contact. There maybe on play a game in which a LB misses an open field tackle but it was usually a great move by the runner. 2K players run directly at the defender because this game awards the offensive player by allowing him to run over guys directly in front of him. 2k8 is nowhere near as bad as 2k4, and 2k5 though.

If plays like the Jamaal Lewis play was common he would still be in Baltimore and he would average 500 yds a game. The reason he was released is because he couldnt make people miss any longer. Show me a hightlight reel of an entire game and see how many plays a running back runs over people. I can assure you it wont be many.

Most big runs are due to GREAT blocking in front of the runner, not a bunch of broken tackles. Ofcourse there is the occasional play in which a defense plays soft and doesnt use great technique when tackling but that is not the norm and would get a player kicked out the league if he is getting run over everytime. Tackling is a skill that is taught and practiced and it is not applied well in 2K games. Cornerbacks are taught to tackle RB's low to get them off their feet. In 2k games they tackle high in order to create the hightlight run. And the branching tackles option is a bit cheap as well. If you guy does a high tackle animation and the branching takes over the runner is gaining yards while your so called wrap up tackler is sliding down his body. Again, the offense is getting rewarded. It would be better if the runners would atleast fall off balance and not gain yardage while this is going on but that wouldnt be fun for someone looking to create a highlight reel now would it.

[TheRainboWarior]

Seriously he was a Running back.. and he could run the ball.. But in this game he sucks.. I mean you cant really break tackles with him.. and if you do.. its random..

But he makes one hell of a WR..

But i still use him :( lol trying to force the run with him

I have broken tackles with him, not shoulder charge, but I have definitely banched a ton with him, stop saying he sucks and learn how to use him for what he is. You use him to establish the pass game, (JUST LIKE THE 9ers did), then you run him when the D is tired out. Please, if you want a running back who can break tackles, take Ottis Anderson or Curt Warner, HELL just take Campbell. I am so sick of people saying he cant break tackles and he sucks, learn how to use the back how they should be used ;)

And no, Craig did not BREAK tackles, when being tackled on the legs from behin, yeah he shed some, other than that not really.

[saviour2k8]

I have broken tackles with him, not shoulder charge, but I have definitely banched a ton with him, stop saying he sucks and learn how to use him for what he is. You use him to establish the pass game, (JUST LIKE THE 9ers did), then you run him when the D is tired out. Please, if you want a running back who can break tackles, take Ottis Anderson or Curt Warner, HELL just take Campbell. I am so sick of people saying he cant break tackles and he sucks, learn how to use the back how they should be used ;)

And no, Craig did not BREAK tackles, when being tackled on the legs from behin, yeah he shed some, other than that not really.


Word. He is the man when I used him. The only runner I had a hard time with is Dave Meggett because you breathe next to him and he goes down. My new project is Floyd Little. I love that quick cut ability.

[Hotsuma]

I have broken tackles with him, not shoulder charge, but I have definitely banched a ton with him, stop saying he sucks and learn how to use him for what he is. You use him to establish the pass game, (JUST LIKE THE 9ers did), then you run him when the D is tired out. Please, if you want a running back who can break tackles, take Ottis Anderson or Curt Warner, HELL just take Campbell. I am so sick of people saying he cant break tackles and he sucks, learn how to use the back how they should be used ;)

And no, Craig did not BREAK tackles, when being tackled on the legs from behin, yeah he shed some, other than that not really.

roger craig sucked period.. if your going against someone who can actually play.. he is shut down because he cant run the ball at all in this game..

This also proves that the ability and tier system is flawed..

Because a Silver RB and not break a tackle off a GENERIC CB....


Rarely do i break a branching tackle.. But Other RBs i can.. Warner, Even Megget i break more tackles with him then Craig

[TheRainboWarior]

I have played against people ranked lower than 100 with him one of them is Iamnumber123and5, he is ranked 57 I think, he didnt shut Craig down, for the 3089374 time learn how to use him. HE IS NOT AN EVERYDOWN BACK! Pass first run when the team expects passes, thats what the 9ers did, thats how he is used in this game. God damn he is fine in this game, 2k did a fine job on him. Please stfu.

[Hotsuma]

I have played against people ranked lower than 100 with him one of them is Iamnumber123and5, he is ranked 57 I think, he didnt shut Craig down, for the 3089374 time learn how to use him. HE IS NOT AN EVERYDOWN BACK! Pass first run when the team expects passes, thats what the 9ers did, thats how he is used in this game. God damn he is fine in this game, 2k did a fine job on him. Please stfu.



why do you keep using the ranking system.. Who cares... i could easily be ranked number 1 in this game if i wanted to.. Its not about skill..


Any game with a leaderboard the top players are not that good buddy...

I repeat playing someone Good

[Tuboware67]

... I have used Billy Simms, Ottis, and Warner, so much, always switchign them out, Craig runs just as fast as Sims, gets tired less then Anderson, and has a nasty spin, he is a great reciever, he is not that.

Otis Anderson never gets tired for me, and the teams that I use him on I do nothing but run. He gets me 5 yards every run, but never gets tired. Maybe you throw to him too much? I just try to run him inbetween the tackles and he rarely gets tired.

[TheRainboWarior]

Maybe? Ottis is good, he got tired on long drives for me though, interesting. But what do you think about this craig thing?

[LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS]

Shaun Alexander doesn't break many tackles in real life either, but he uses his amazing vision to see holes that not many guys can see.

[Hotsuma]

Shaun Alexander doesn't break many tackles in real life either, but he uses his amazing vision to see holes that not many guys can see.


shaun alexander is overrated

[TheRainboWarior]

shaun alexander is overrated

This is true, he is overrated, and its showing now without Mack Strong ;)

[Tuboware67]

I personally dont like Roger Craig in this game. Id much rather use Rickey Watters who has the same abilities, plus he BREAKS more tackles, and I dont mean with the shoulder charge move, I mean period. He spins off more, he branches more, and he throws more tacklers off naturally. Plus he can catch just as well as Craig.

Also, like I said on the good forums, there are so many other silver backs that are way better, so why not use them instead?

[saviour2k8]

This is true, he is overrated, and its showing now without Mack Strong ;)

Alexander is overatted now but he was good a few years back. But as LSU said, he used his vision and had a great fullback and oline in front of him to break big runs. He was never a tackle breaker even though he always broke off big runs. Same for Tiki Barber

[LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS]

Hes not the kind of back that can make something out of nothing, he needs good blocking, and with it, he excells because of his vision.

[TheRainboWarior]

Every back needs good blocking my friend, and his vision, has been sub-par this year, I have watched about 4 of this games, and it was horrific, he couldnt hit any holes, and couldnt do anything even with decent blocking.