Ive never seen such Run blocking AI

[Hotsuma]

the Run blocking in this game is horrid.

Its like they program the run blocking AI NOT TO BLOCK


I had a chance to break a big run.. But Dwight Clark thought it would be a good idea to follow rob moore and block Terry Mcdanial Instead of the FS Robinson


Joe Jacoby Thought it was a good Idea to run right pass the DE and double team a CB..

[theshiznetno1]

team work.....

[nepharius4]

blocks are alwas blown in real life, if blockers in this game always picked up the right person, then we'd be running big runs all day.

[LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS]

Sometimes, the FB will just run to the other side of the field.

[Someone]

I never seem to have that much of a problem with run blocking AI.

[Hotsuma]

blocks are alwas blown in real life, if blockers in this game always picked up the right person, then we'd be running big runs all day.



Buddy.. when the ball is hike.. The FB wont run in a different direction..

[nepharius4]

if he didn't know the play...

:)

either way, i have never seen that happen (the FB thing) now thats AI problem thats different compared to YOUR example where it could just have been a blown block.

[kcxiv]

Its better then blocking no one at all like in 2k5. lol-

[Tuboware67]

The blocking is just fine. Sure it could be better, but lets be honest, the running game is already way too easy in the game the way it is. If the run blocking was any better there would be no reason to ever pass the ball.

[theydidntnameme]

sometimes they need to slowdown.. it seems like if they run past everyone near them they will just run straight up field even if you stop and start running sideways or something.. they wont come back and help block. i intercepted with terry mcdaniel and i was running the sideline and all i saw was TOUCHDOWN. there was one guy to beat (an O-lineman) and i had one of the LB's about 10 yards ahead of me. my LB ran RIGHT PAST the o lineman and didnt even bother to slow down or anything while he came by and tackled me.


also draw plays are the worst... i think they are supposed to fall back anyway and act like they are pass blocking.. but they run forward and often times run RIGHT PAST most of the d lineman to block the Lb's and by the time my hb gets the ball the d lineman are there to stop him

[Valdarez]

Blocks are going to get blown, that's football. I think the real problem is with the animations. With guys just running up the field. It looks silly. They need to have guys fight, and miss the block (the guy just gets past them), instead of 2 blockers running up field on their own, with no defenders in site.

[kod68]

The blocks the WR's throw kill me. Impossible to break until the HB runs past for a big gain.

[LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS]

Only some WRs block well, Lenny Moore, for example blocks really well

[ElGreazy78]

I dont' know what you guys are talking about at all when you complain about the run blocking, in fact, I think it's realistic. I played o-line ever since I was in pop warner all the way up through high school (my playing days have long passed) and although I wasn't the best physically gifted player (at the time too fat, too slow, but slightly strong lol) I was smart and was a starting fixture all that time. I've always watched line-play in games because you see a lot of action going on there and I love commentators like Maas, Madden, Schlerneth, etc who really get into the intricacies of line-play.

Anyway, if you understand the fundamentals, assignments, gap rules, run-types (draw, iso, leads, counters, etc), etc you can really dominate or at least keep the ground game honest on this game. Many players don't take into account the defensive line's positioning and player shifts (moving the FB or TE over) that are meant to be read & adjusted to before the snap. Certain plays aren't meant to be run at certain fronts and sometimes it's best to actually go after a Gold Legend to wear them down over a game but people don't take this into account.

I use Natrone Means yet I can perform with him at the same level of most Gold Power RBs simply because I know which holes to follow, who's going to be blocking who and who is going to be the man to beat in that play. I can't tell you how many times I've been able to eat up a drive with just 3-4 yard runs.

[ElGreazy78]

Blocks are going to get blown, that's football. I think the real problem is with the animations. With guys just running up the field. It looks silly. They need to have guys fight, and miss the block (the guy just gets past them), instead of 2 blockers running up field on their own, with no defenders in site.
I'll give you that, blockers do a horrible job of "sealing" the play whenever they get into the 2nd level resulting in an o-linemen being 10 yards down the field near no one.

I'd really love to see more blocking animations like you stated above and also the possibility of double team, shed blocking (player double teams one person then sheds off to go after a LB), o-line pushing piles, and my favorite, running at piles & clipping off defensive players from the top of them (lineman runs at a player and dives just at one player to slide them off the pile).

[ToyDingo]

It is heartbreaking to watch a big play go down the drain because a blocker missed a block. And I don't mean missed as in he got beat. No I mean missed as in he ran right by the guy to go talk to the cheerleaders on the sideline...

It's tough...:(

[GoodSense]

blocks are alwas blown in real life, if blockers in this game always picked up the right person, then we'd be running big runs all day.

Very good point.
The only time I disagree with this is when you play against a bear formation or cover one.

You get through the front and only have that lone safety downfield with a guard or tackle between you. 9 out of 10 times he will pull and go block someone else. That is not realistic.

If the guy missed the block or wasn't effective that is different, but most of the time the guy goes head hunting on a defender of much lesser significance.

[Darkheath]

I'm actually really impressed with most of the blocking in the game. I've never before been able to slow down and wait while blocks form in front of me. Sometimes it's hard remembering that I don't have to continually mash the "A" button, but once I do, I can usually pick up a few more yards. Heck... in this game, I've even come to a complete stop when I've seen blocks happening and then scoot past. I think they did a great job.

Now, don't get me wrong. I've seen some dumb stuff, too. But I like that that happens occasionally. I've also never gotten a draw play to work. Maybe I need to watch the replay slowly to see what's really going on. If the OL is charging forward immediately, then that is a problem.

[Ro_Diggity]

In my opinion, the blocking could be a little bit better. Show me that you are trying. Don't just fly right by the defense and let them in. There are times when my linemen throw a damn good block( Don't sleep on Anthony Munoz. He throws some good blocks), then on the next play, miss it.

[LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS]

I hate the blocking animation where a D-lineman is double teamed, and all of a sudden just split it.

It happens way, way, too often, and I'm even one of the few people who use legend O-linemen.

[MR Woo KP]

I'm actually really impressed with most of the blocking in the game. I've never before been able to slow down and wait while blocks form in front of me. Sometimes it's hard remembering that I don't have to continually mash the "A" button, but once I do, I can usually pick up a few more yards. Heck... in this game, I've even come to a complete stop when I've seen blocks happening and then scoot past. I think they did a great job.

Now, don't get me wrong. I've seen some dumb stuff, too. But I like that that happens occasionally. I've also never gotten a draw play to work. Maybe I need to watch the replay slowly to see what's really going on. If the OL is charging forward immediately, then that is a problem.
Try to audible your o-line to max defend and see if that helps. I haven't tried it, but I assume it makes the o-line move back.

[wEEman33]

Blockers do way too much stupid stuff in this game, especially along the edges.

On passing plays, it is common for tackles (and sometimes, guards) to just stand completely still and let ends go right by them. Backs and tight ends also do a horrible job of picking up blockers on the edge.

On runs, there are times when lead blockers run out into empty space instead of sealing the edge, or instead, decide to double team a guy on the inside that's already being blocked instead of blocking an open guy on the outside.

Don't even get me started on the blocking AI in open space. Sometimes it seems as if those guys are trying harder not to get hit (or just running in a straight line, oblivious to everything else that's happening on the field) than trying to block somebody.

[wEEman33]

Try to audible your o-line to max defend and see if that helps. I haven't tried it, but I assume it makes the o-line move back.

All max defend does is tell your backs and tight ends to block.

[LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS]

Yeah, sometimes the linemen will just stand there and let the fast DEs just run right by.

In real life they never do that, they never just let the DE just run right by. In real life they at least show some effort, and slow the pass rushers down a little bit.

For example, sometimes on outside runs, when an OLB is coming off the edge to make the tackle, the FB will just run right by him and all the way to the end zone. In real life, blockers would at least hit the OLB and slow him down.

[Hollywood055]

Yeah it's way better then 2K5 but Maddens run blocking is better.

[Hotsuma]

Blockers do way too much stupid stuff in this game, especially along the edges.

On passing plays, it is common for tackles (and sometimes, guards) to just stand completely still and let ends go right by them. Backs and tight ends also do a horrible job of picking up blockers on the edge.

On runs, there are times when lead blockers run out into empty space instead of sealing the edge, or instead, decide to double team a guy on the inside that's already being blocked instead of blocking an open guy on the outside.

Don't even get me started on the blocking AI in open space. Sometimes it seems as if those guys are trying harder not to get hit (or just running in a straight line, oblivious to everything else that's happening on the field) than trying to block somebody.


this is all obviously realistic play considered by some :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[alliance4g63]

this is all obviously realistic play considered by some


Isn't it amazing..