I will not buy this game if it doesn't use total punch control!!

[Carebare]

If I have to press a button to punch I will refuse to buy this game. One thing the Fight night series got right was the use of total punch control. This requires true skill to master (even throwing haymakers). Also make it so you can fight a guy that you know is using all analog...as I hate fighting others who button mash...I find it unfair and silly.

I dont even have to say the long parry's, judge jab, sinister cross crap has to go...thats a given.
This ought to be interesting....I'm skeptical on how this game is going to turn out. DON"T ***K IT UP!

[Ant from Gville]

Face buttons are good for boxing IF USED RIGHT!!! So don't say buttons aren't the way to go.

[Carebare]

I want the option though to only fight people that use 100% analog. Buttons can be in the game cuz some like it...and that all cool but I wanna see what configuration others are using.
I dont want to use all analog and lose to someone mashing the hook buttons with their eyes closed.
If the developers are reading this PLEASE GIVE US THE OPTION TO FILTER OUT BUTTON MASHERS! Thats all I ask.

[FighterforJC]

If I have to press a button to punch I will refuse to buy this game. One thing the Fight night series got right was the use of total punch control. This requires true skill to master (even throwing haymakers). Also make it so you can fight a guy that you know is using all analog...as I hate fighting others who button mash...I find it unfair and silly.

I dont even have to say the long parry's, judge jab, sinister cross crap has to go...thats a given.
This ought to be interesting....I'm skeptical on how this game is going to turn out. DON"T ***K IT UP!
Uhm, no it does not take skill to use total punch control. Once you get used to it, it works just like the buttons, it's just a gimmick control scheme very much like the Wii's. "Requires true skill to master." That is just pathetic. And for the last time, BUTTON MASHING HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONTROL SCHEME. YOU CAN STILL BUTTON MASH WITH THE TPC. BUTTON MASHING HAS TO DO WITH THE GAME MECHANICS THAT ALLOW THE PLAYER TO THROW PUNCHES IN AN UNREALISTICALLY FAST MANNER THAT DEFIES PHYSICS AND HAS ABSOLUTELY NO AFFECT ON STAMINA. Even with the TPC, you can still button mash, albeit with the analog sticks. THE SOLUTION TO BUTTON MASHING IS NOT A GIMMICK TPC, BUT A REALISTIC STAMINA SYSTEM. Why don't real boxers "button mash" in real life? Because 1) They'll spend all their energy if they do it often enough. 2) They'll leave themselves wide open for a sucker punch.

[Carebare]

Uhm, no it does not take skill to use total punch control. Once you get used to it, it works just like the buttons, it's just a gimmick control scheme very much like the Wii's. "Requires true skill to master." That is just pathetic. And for the last time, BUTTON MASHING HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONTROL SCHEME. YOU CAN STILL BUTTON MASH WITH THE TPC. BUTTON MASHING HAS TO DO WITH THE GAME MECHANICS THAT ALLOW THE PLAYER TO THROW PUNCHES IN AN UNREALISTICALLY FAST MANNER THAT DEFIES PHYSICS AND HAS ABSOLUTELY NO AFFECT ON STAMINA. Even with the TPC, you can still button mash, albeit with the analog sticks. THE SOLUTION TO BUTTON MASHING IS NOT A GIMMICK TPC, BUT A REALISTIC STAMINA SYSTEM. Why don't real boxers "button mash" in real life? Because 1) They'll spend all their energy if they do it often enough. 2) They'll leave themselves wide open for a sucker punch.

Thats your opinion. Button combos come off much faster than TPC. This game can use buttons as long as their is the option to use TPC and to fight other fighters that use the same config! I want my fights to be as evenly matched up as possible. If you like buttons then I'm sure this game will satisfy your needs.
I agree with you 100% that this game needs a realistic stamina system. I have been wanting that for a looong time. The Fight night stamina system sukks.

[Ant from Gville]

You can have a realistic and great fight with just face buttons, it's all up to 2K whether the face buttons are used right....Real gameplay=Controller layout won't matter!

[ToyDingo]

I really don't understand why Fight Night was so popular. To me it was one big commercial with all the advertising that was in it. And I seriously want to strangle the guy who thought that getting parried should result in your boxer standing there for five seconds looking stupid.

[Carebare]

I really don't understand why Fight Night was so popular. To me it was one big commercial with all the advertising that was in it. And I seriously want to strangle the guy who thought that getting parried should result in your boxer standing there for five seconds looking stupid.

Yeah...that 5 second parry garbage was one of the WORST ideas ever put in a video game period! I and so many other people HATED that. Since when do you see boxing matches where a boxer's jab get's parried and eats to hooks or uppercuts everytime?
Fight night is all about parrying punches, landing uppercuts/ hooks of your own to win the fight. Stamina is a non issue cuz EA made that haymaker invincible stamina boost so many people abuse.
It makes me want to vomit when I think of how bad EA dropped the ball. Fight night 3 had sooo much potential and some great ideas but failed miserabley as a boxing sim.

Total punch control for me is one of the best things ever. I get into my fights more and couldnt imagain if I had to push buttons again. It's all about the "feel". I hope 2K incorporates punching using the sticks. Or at least give us the option too.

[Carebare]

Ohh, and i see that nobody agrees with me that total punch control is a must. You all must be button users. Oh well, I must be the minority. Don't any of you dare play me in Fight ight round 3 all anaolg! I would knock your heads right off your body.
True skill baby....true skill. Just remember, a monkey could press a button to punch and throw combos...but a true master and skilled fighter uses the analog to put together combo's that few others could pull off.
Don't fugg this up 2K!!!!!! DON"T FUGG THIS UP!!!! LISTEN TO ME!

[Ghetto Phenom]

I'm all about some type of TPC. I NEVER use the buttons anymore. TPC is one of the things FN got right. And I agree that it takes skill to be able to mix up your punches with TPC. Most people just go left hook, right hook all day with it. It takes skill to throw double and triple jabs or throwing three left hooks in a row followed by a right cross. TPC is amazing and the reason I forgave FN for all it's other mistakes. I'd be really disappointed if Prizefighter didn't have some type of analog punching system.

[robbro66]

Uhm, no it does not take skill to use total punch control. Once you get used to it, it works just like the buttons, it's just a gimmick control scheme very much like the Wii's. "Requires true skill to master." That is just pathetic. And for the last time, BUTTON MASHING HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONTROL SCHEME. YOU CAN STILL BUTTON MASH WITH THE TPC. BUTTON MASHING HAS TO DO WITH THE GAME MECHANICS THAT ALLOW THE PLAYER TO THROW PUNCHES IN AN UNREALISTICALLY FAST MANNER THAT DEFIES PHYSICS AND HAS ABSOLUTELY NO AFFECT ON STAMINA. Even with the TPC, you can still button mash, albeit with the analog sticks. THE SOLUTION TO BUTTON MASHING IS NOT A GIMMICK TPC, BUT A REALISTIC STAMINA SYSTEM. Why don't real boxers "button mash" in real life? Because 1) They'll spend all their energy if they do it often enough. 2) They'll leave themselves wide open for a sucker punch.
Amen! Real Stamina is what we need. Have you ever heard "He punched himself out". Real Stamina, Real Stamina, Real Stamina, Real Stamina!

[CzanMan]

"I will not buy this game if it doesn't use total punch control!!"

Good, then don't buy the game. TPC is vastly overrated and hitting a button is a lot more like shooting out a punch than wiggling a stick is...

[King-Of-Kings]

carebare you sound like a trailbreaker

[TENNESSEESLIM]

sorry but buttons are the way to go ,they should just get rid of the tpc altogether that way the playing field is even, and you suck because you suck not because someone is a button masher.

[Ant from Gville]

Button mashers can be blocked and parried, so what's wrong with using the buttons???

[FighterforJC]

Ohh, and i see that nobody agrees with me that total punch control is a must. You all must be button users. Oh well, I must be the minority. Don't any of you dare play me in Fight ight round 3 all anaolg! I would knock your heads right off your body.
True skill baby....true skill. Just remember, a monkey could press a button to punch and throw combos...but a true master and skilled fighter uses the analog to put together combo's that few others could pull off.
Don't fugg this up 2K!!!!!! DON"T FUGG THIS UP!!!! LISTEN TO ME!

TPC is not "True skill." Go back to the ghetto you came from. You're probably a parry *****. A "true master?" Guys are you reading this? This is absolutely pathetic. You must be trying to be funny, I get it.

[ronsaxton]

Thats your opinion. Button combos come off much faster than TPC. This game can use buttons as long as their is the option to use TPC and to fight other fighters that use the same config! I want my fights to be as evenly matched up as possible. If you like buttons then I'm sure this game will satisfy your needs.
I agree with you 100% that this game needs a realistic stamina system. I have been wanting that for a looong time. The Fight night stamina system sukks.

well lets see. . . .

a boxer is training for a fight. or he is in a fight and says to himself.. .

i want to throw my punches a more skillfull way other than just throwing them the way i want to. . .. hmmmmmm so i will throw them this other way because it is available for me to do it and the inventor of the new way to throw puches says that it is " total control"

but when you really look at it is it??

with buttons you cant really determine hord hard the boxer punches with a single type of punch.
with the analog stick you cant either - save the haymaker

so is it really total control?? can my punches and combinations be faster and more accurate then using bottons??

the answer is no. Ea never said that they can be harder or faster using the analog stick. it really is just another way you can throw punches. GET IT??

total punch control means you have the ability to hit either hard, or harder with that same punch. if i use the stick to jab will it make the punch strike faster?? no. if i use the stick to throw a hook will it hit harder then press the button?? no.
if u se the stick to throw a haymaker will my fighter throw a haymaker?? yes
so really it is total haymaker control. not total punch control.

facts from our friends at EA

[sampsonthestrong]

The TPC is lousy anyway. I like the buttons much better. It shouldn't matter to you anyway Carebare, you're like Mayweather, remember? So you should be able to adapt to whatever your opponent is doing, right? So quit whining about the buttons you wimp!

[TyrantT316]

I think TPC was a nice feature, but they blew it with also making button punching an option. If they REALLY wanted to revolutionize and focus on a game of TPC skill, then they would have make TPC the only way to throw punches.

I kept reverting back to buttons. I think TPC kept better pacing for a Boxing game rather than everybody getting off blazing fast combinations.

Then again, I wouldn't mind if PrizeFighter went back to buttons. You just have to do it right.

[Carebare]

carebare you sound like a trailbreaker
Trailbreaker is a good fighter, but I destroy him online everytime we meet. Trail has always claimed to use all analog, but I think he button mashes on ocassion..which makes him a lil ho.
You gunna get smaked up from the ground up Keegan when this game cums out. I hope its not all analog for your sake! I would tear u apart son.

[Sdot927]

Sorry but TPC is da way 2 go just like when live came wit using the analog 2 do cross overs 2k knew dis was da way of future and came up wit iso motion basically using buttons iz so old n easy using da analog is next gen 2 all does dat disagree go play Knockout Kings or sumthin SH*T itz almost 08 already step ur game up ya'll Mutha F****** still Hustling Backwards

[xxOaklandNETSxx]

who cares if u dont buy this game its only 1 person

[eye guy]

I'm all for the TPC scheme... I hated FN3 after one of my first games online. Using the analog sticks was the best idea for a boxing game and that's about it. If I see a haymaker puch or a "special" punch in this game, i'll cry...

[Hank]

If I have to press a button to punch I will refuse to buy this game. One thing the Fight night series got right was the use of total punch control. This requires true skill to master (even throwing haymakers). Also make it so you can fight a guy that you know is using all analog...as I hate fighting others who button mash...I find it unfair and silly.

I dont even have to say the long parry's, judge jab, sinister cross crap has to go...thats a given.
This ought to be interesting....I'm skeptical on how this game is going to turn out. DON"T ***K IT UP!

I disagree. You could be good at this game using TPC and not have any skill at all. How is button mashing any different from stick-mashing?

Besides, I hated TPC. I hated how it took a 3-point effort to fire off an uppercut. Anyone that's ever boxed or watches boxing knows that fighters can throw an uppercut or hook just as effortlessly as a jab or cross.

If we're talking about having skill in a boxing game it should translate from counter-punching, working off the jab, taking advantages of openings or getting your opponent off balance.
Unfortunately, Fight Night does almost none of this.
In FN, anyone can score a knockdown or flash KO regardless of who's throwing or taking the punch. It has almost no physics whatsoever.

KO's and knockdowns should take place when a fighter is hit with a hard shot he doesn't see or is caught in a bad position. And then it should depend on the fighters attributes. A guy like Chris Byrd is not going to knock anyone out with a straight left. For him to knock anyone down or out, it has to come from an abundance of shots and even then it's hard for him to do.
On the other hand, a guy like Wlad Klitscho can knock you out fairly easily if he catches you sleeping or with a clean counter.

I've played the Victorious Boxers series and I've played all the FN's. Despite the VB series using buttons, you need a lot more skill in that game than you do in FN.
Just because you're physically moving more using the sticks in FN doesn't mean you're actually more skilled. I've seen plenty of non-skilled, non-boxing fans KO guys by just wagging the stick around as fast as they could.

What Prize Fighter (and FN) need to do is incorporate a better physics engine and gameplay features so that true strategy is needed to defeat your opponent - not gimmicky punches.

[Sdot927]

fam u talkin crazy right now no skill TPC stop it u lookin so transparent right now u hating cuz u trash at it so u want buttons cuz u tired of getting handled

[FighterforJC]

Sorry but TPC is da way 2 go just like when live came wit using the analog 2 do cross overs 2k knew dis was da way of future and came up wit iso motion basically using buttons iz so old n easy using da analog is next gen 2 all does dat disagree go play Knockout Kings or sumthin SH*T itz almost 08 already step ur game up ya'll Mutha F****** still Hustling Backwards

"Dis dat, tada, tada uhuh uhuh, word, yo!"

Go back to the ghetto and shoot somebody or something! Stop trying to act intelligent, you're not fooling anybody. Go play FNR3 with your ghetto basketball shorts and ghetto hip hop garbage.

[Hank]

"Dis dat, tada, tada uhuh uhuh, word, yo!"

Go back to the ghetto and shoot somebody or something!

Stop hating on him FighterforJC. I love guys like Sdot927. They always make sure my fries are served fresh and my gas is pumped right. Trew dat!

[digitalandroid]

I really don't understand why Fight Night was so popular. To me it was one big commercial with all the advertising that was in it. And I seriously want to strangle the guy who thought that getting parried should result in your boxer standing there for five seconds looking stupid.

LOL

Yea, that move reminds me of a martial art move. I've never seen those in real boxing, they don't block like that in real life and then have then stand there forever after a block is just stupid.

FN reminds me of Madden, it might look good but the gameplay is bad.

[Sdot927]

u makin racist comments over da internet u just proving soft!!!

" STOP HATIN ON A ***** DAT IZ A WEAK EMOTION DA LADY OF *****"

[agnthvc]

If I have to press a button to punch I will refuse to buy this game. One thing the Fight night series got right was the use of total punch control. This requires true skill to master (even throwing haymakers). Also make it so you can fight a guy that you know is using all analog...as I hate fighting others who button mash...I find it unfair and silly.

I dont even have to say the long parry's, judge jab, sinister cross crap has to go...thats a given.
This ought to be interesting....I'm skeptical on how this game is going to turn out. DON"T ***K IT UP!


then dont buy it. if that is what u need in a boxing game, that is valid point. i think you are gonna miss out on a fun game. an exciting game. i really believe 2k has been doing track work on this so they debut right on this game. this gameis going to be a series like EA's boxing titles. we are going to get a different view and experiences in this title. so if tcp is all you want then stick to EA. I am going to step up my game with prizefighter.

[Hank]

u makin racist comments over da internet u just proving soft!!!

" STOP HATIN ON A ***** DAT IZ A WEAK EMOTION DA LADY OF *****"

How is it racist? I'm merely suggesting that people who seem to be half illiterate such as yourself make excellent McDonalds and Gas Pump workers.

The fact that you assumed that all McDonalds workers or gas pump attendants are of a different color means that you're the racist one here.

But I highly doubt you'll understand the scope of my argument.

[Sdot927]

half brain what ever you say here you again talking so much ish over the internet but like common did cube i see the Biiiiiiiittttttttcccccccchhhhhhh in you

" stop hating on nig-uh dat iz a weak emotion da LADY of nig-uh"

[patientsnake]

half brain what ever you say here you again talking so much ish over the internet but like common did cube i see the Biiiiiiiittttttttcccccccchhhhhhh in you

" stop hating on nig-uh dat iz a weak emotion da LADY of nig-uh"


:rotfl: Stop playing video games and go to school.

[Sdot927]

yo i'm in college and who is this guy diiiiiicccckkkkkk riding a nig-uh lik a stripper w/o my permission on some ***-ish that's not a good look

[Hank]

yo i'm in college and who is this guy diiiiiicccckkkkkk riding a nig-uh lik a stripper w/o my permission on some ***-ish that's not a good look

Clown College isn't a real school.

[Sdot927]

good 1 hank your jokes r so clever how do u continue to come up with stuff

:thumbsdow

[eye guy]

Clown College isn't a real school.


:eek: :rotfl: hahahahaha....

[rjsuperfly66]

how bout yall get a life and stop trying to act tough by being racist priicks on a sports video game forum

[Hank]

how bout yall get a life and stop trying to act tough by being racist priicks on a sports video game forum

I'm still not sure how anyone's being racist here except for Sdot927.
He assumes that anyone who pumps gas or serves fries is a person of color. He also used the word "nig-uh".

[Sdot927]

To Hank a WISE man once said

"Nobody's think of u so ur beef ain't legit so please stay off of the T.I.P of my DDDDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKK KKKKKKK"


thank u :D

[Hank]

To Hank a WISE man once said

"Nobody's think of u so ur beef ain't legit so please stay off of the T.I.P of my DDDDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKK KKKKKKK"


thank u :D

I'm sorry it took me so long to reply. I had to hire a retarded chimp to translate what you just wrote.

Basically, it sounds like you are sexually attracted to me. Sorry, I don't swing that way. But I'm sure some of the fellow convicts at the prison where you reside do. Have fun.

Thank you. ;)

[GeekofGames]

Ding Ding...Alright ladies and gentlemen that was end of round one I've got Hank ahead on the scorecards winning right now...will Sdot927 come back with somes jokes of his own or will he leave it alone...Ding Ding Round 2 lol :lol: :eek:

[Sdot927]

To Hank i would tell u to jump on my DDDIIICCCKKK and grow up but u seem HHHOOOMMMOO enough to actually try and do it

" some of these slugs is for wanna be thugs they soft B***** made call them summer's eve thugs"

[patientsnake]

To Hank i would tell u to jump on my DDDIIICCCKKK and grow up but u seem HHHOOOMMMOO enough to actually try and do it

" some of these slugs is for wanna be thugs they soft B***** made call them summer's eve thugs"

I can't wait for round three. This thug wannabe language cracks me up.

[Hank]

I can't wait for round three. This thug wannabe language cracks me up.

I'm just hoping the sdot gets his keyboard fixed. It seems to get stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck on certain keys.

And I'm starting to think that Clown College is very expensive as sdot could only afford a keyboard with limited letters. u here wut i sayin yo?

P.S. I found sdot's school photo:

http://sportsagent.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/ilc6.jpg

[ronsaxton]

thus us way iof topic. LOCK IT DOWN!!!

[Sdot927]

Dam nig-uh how old iz 30 36 *** u still using in living color jokes this sshhiitt ain't 92 no more nig-uh u still Hustling Backwards " da rap game changed nowadays either u on sum snap sshhitt or plain ol stuck n a different decade like da brat iz"


"Hank listen i don't play games u better ask Edddie Griffin u gonna lose every time going up against a freight train"

[payton#34]

What happened to this being a message board about Prizefighter? All you guys need to grow up and stop acting like you're in 3rd grade.


As far as the REAL topic of this thread, i totally agree. They have to have the total punch control system in this game.

[Mike_Tyson]

Yeah, this thread has gone waaayy off topic! From now on, lets keep it to the topic.....which is THIS GAME WILL BE 100% GARBAGE AND AN UTTER FAILURE IF TOTAL PUNCH CONTROL IS NOT IMPLIMENTED IN SOME FASHION!!!!

I dislike the MAJOR flaws that are in fight night series...but I will give EA props for having a revelutionary control scheme with the sticks. Blocking, bob n' weavin, leaning, haymakers and punching feel so natural with the sticks I could NEVER go back to pushing a suck azz button to punch all the time.

For me this entire game is riding on how the punching, blocking control scheme is set up and the ability to match against other players online with THE SAME configuration.

For all of you that think total punch control is a joke...then come see me on the 360 in FN-3and we'll both switch to all analog config.....I would tear dat azz up so fast you'll be cryin home to ya mommy!! Then you will relize the true power of all analog!

A MONKEY CAN PRESS A BUTTON TO PUNCH!! IT TAKES A TRUE PROFESSIONAL TO USE TOTAL PUNCH CONTROL TO HIS ADVANTAGE!!!

DON"T BE A MONKEY 2K!!!!!!!!!!

[Hank]

Dam nig-uh how old iz 30 36 *** u still using in living color jokes this sshhiitt ain't 92 no more nig-uh u still Hustling Backwards " da rap game changed nowadays either u on sum snap sshhitt or plain ol stuck n a different decade like da brat iz"


"Hank listen i don't play games u better ask Edddie Griffin u gonna lose every time going up against a freight train"

How dare you look down on "In Living Color"! That show was the best!

Anyway, I agree, we'll get back on topic.

Prizefighter doesn't need to have TPC to be good. Just play a game of Victorious Boxers All Stars and you'll see that. That game has the best boxing engine ever created.

[payton#34]

I'm with you Tyson! My 7 year old niece can mash buttons and be effective at Fight Night (which she is, no joke), but the analog stick takes some skill to get the combos down pat.

Prizefighter MUST have this feature! I think it most likely will.

[patientsnake]

Yeah, this thread has gone waaayy off topic! From now on, lets keep it to the topic.....which is THIS GAME WILL BE 100% GARBAGE AND AN UTTER FAILURE IF TOTAL PUNCH CONTROL IS NOT IMPLIMENTED IN SOME FASHION!!!!

I dislike the MAJOR flaws that are in fight night series...but I will give EA props for having a revelutionary control scheme with the sticks. Blocking, bob n' weavin, leaning, haymakers and punching feel so natural with the sticks I could NEVER go back to pushing a suck azz button to punch all the time.

For me this entire game is riding on how the punching, blocking control scheme is set up and the ability to match against other players online with THE SAME configuration.

For all of you that think total punch control is a joke...then come see me on the 360 in FN-3and we'll both switch to all analog config.....I would tear dat azz up so fast you'll be cryin home to ya mommy!! Then you will relize the true power of all analog!

A MONKEY CAN PRESS A BUTTON TO PUNCH!! IT TAKES A TRUE PROFESSIONAL TO USE TOTAL PUNCH CONTROL TO HIS ADVANTAGE!!!

DON"T BE A MONKEY 2K!!!!!!!!!!

I like the analog control scheme, but this is all just opinion. To some, the game may be a failure if buttons aren't included.

P.S. Stop acting like it takes so much skill to use analog punching. The only "TRUE PROFESSIONALS" are real boxers. IT IS JUST A DAMN GAME.

[PeezfoolWARRIAR]

Total Punch Control is a must for me aswell. I mean if its not there, I'll give it a shot, and I suppose it could be possible that they do enough right without TPC, that it could still be a great game, but I'm definatly rooting for a TPC like system.

Would be nice if they expanded on the system and actually made the speed at which you move the stick actually determines how fast and powerful your punches are.

[GeekofGames]

^^^Yea PeezfoolWARRIAR thats a great idea i hope they do something like that with the TPC control system also...but i agree with almost everyone else on this topic...2k should put some kind of TPC system in Prizefighter :cool: :eek: