Wanted: 2 unique positive ratings

[Numbski]

:D

I need to 2 more positives to FINALLY get back up to a 70% rating. Sheesh. The last week I've had nothing but positives/neutrals, and still at 69%. I ran the math this morning, and I'm 178/255. That's 69.8%. Another positive puts me at 179/256, or 69.9%, and the second one finally puts me over the top at 180/257 - almost exactly 70%.

Side note: everyone is hung up on percentages around here, but did it ever occur to some of you guys to pay attention to the number of unique people played?

178 people thought I was okay, and 77 did not. Faced with looking at it that way, would you still think I was cheese vs. seeing a 69%? Just a thought.

[ritter rott]

I completely agree. I was about to post about how my rating is BS. I'm at 68% right now. The reason is because I usually play guys with losing records (I'm not good at this game and I like to win when I play). The only problem is that when I win I always get a negative or neutral when I'm playing fair.

Even Don v White trash or whoever he is refused to play me b/c of my rating (he is a 73%). Its starting to **** me off.

[Gunther]

Very few ratings are not an indication of the player I would say one in 1000 maybe.

numbski is a good player and doesnt glitch and his rating is not a good indication of his playstyle. But having said that I have heard this story 100 times and it always turns out the guy is a complete jack *** and is rated poorly for a reason. Jay Deisel now Dr Pain XXXX is one of these people that would come to the forum say ratings are a joke and he just gets negs for no reason and because of sore losers. Then I played him and whats the first thing he does? Lines up in goal line to shoot the gap on an extra point try. I bout died laughing.

My point?

Numbski is legit in his play and got rated bad from quiting. LankyLegs is another that has a bad rating just from playing quick matches but plays a fair game. Other than those two everyone else can stay the hell off this thread with their claims of unfair ratings.

Thanks and have a nice day

[ritter rott]

Very few ratings are not an indication of the player I would say one in 1000 maybe.

numbski is a good player and doesnt glitch and his rating is not a good indication of his playstyle. But having said that I have heard this story 100 times and it always turns out the guy is a complete jack *** and is rated poorly for a reason. Jay Deisel now Dr Pain XXXX is one of these people that would come to the forum say ratings are a joke and he just gets negs for no reason and because of sore losers. Then I played him and whats the first thing he does? Lines up in goal line to shoot the gap on an extra point try. I bout died laughing.

My point?

Numbski is legit in his play and got rated bad from quiting. LankyLegs is another that has a bad rating just from playing quick matches but plays a fair game. Other than those two everyone else can stay the hell off this thread with their claims of unfair ratings.

Thanks and have a nice day

Good thing for me you don't own the internet. What I'm saying is true. However, I don't care enough about this stuff to argue about it. Just don't act like an tough guy by saying "Everyone else can stay the hell off this thread". Makes you sound like a ******* yourself. I will have a good day, its Saturday. You do the same.

[Numbski]

I'll be honest, I have tons of quits, and in fact, I would say the majority of those came off quits. Since the reset I have 33 quits, and all but 2 of those were because I was facing total garbage, one was against Gunther here and the other was against hibachiii.

So 77-31: 44. Those other 44 are either because I won (happens very frequently, sadly), or came on quits before the reset. Several prior to the rest were because I went through a very lousy funk ( there's a thread around here someplace documenting that one).

That's not what I started this thread for though! :P

Two people, step right up. :) I need two unique positives. Anyone around here I haven't played yet that minds playing legit for an hour and not rating me down?

[LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS]

Numbski, I'll play you later today, after I'm done with my Homework

[Fre@k of $atan7]

I'll be honest, I have tons of quits, and in fact, I would say the majority of those came off quits. Since the reset I have 33 quits, and all but 2 of those were because I was facing total garbage, one was against Gunther here and the other was against hibachiii.

So 77-31: 44. Those other 44 are either because I won (happens very frequently, sadly), or came on quits before the reset. Several prior to the rest were because I went through a very lousy funk ( there's a thread around here someplace documenting that one).

That's not what I started this thread for though! :P

Two people, step right up. :) I need two unique positives. Anyone around here I haven't played yet that minds playing legit for an hour and not rating me down?

Numbski, I'll play you later today, and rate you accordingly.....If I seen you in the lobby with that 69% I wouldn't even give you the time of day....Is your gamertag Numbski?

[Numbski]

Yup. I usually will hit Legend for a bit to see if I can catch someone, but that's a rarity.

[LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS]

I'll give you a positive.

You'll probably beat me down though, cause I'm not that good.

[Numbski]

So I was curious how many positives in a row I'd have to get to get back to 80%....let's just say it's not even worth making a goal out of it...

1: 179/256 = 0.69921875
2: 180/257 = 0.700389105058366
3: 181/258 = 0.701550387596899
4: 182/259 = 0.702702702702703
5: 183/260 = 0.703846153846154
6: 184/261 = 0.704980842911877
7: 185/262 = 0.706106870229008
8: 186/263 = 0.707224334600761
9: 187/264 = 0.708333333333333
10: 188/265 = 0.709433962264151
11: 189/266 = 0.710526315789474
12: 190/267 = 0.711610486891386
13: 191/268 = 0.712686567164179
14: 192/269 = 0.713754646840149
15: 193/270 = 0.714814814814815
16: 194/271 = 0.715867158671587
17: 195/272 = 0.716911764705882
18: 196/273 = 0.717948717948718
19: 197/274 = 0.718978102189781
20: 198/275 = 0.72
21: 199/276 = 0.721014492753623
22: 200/277 = 0.72202166064982
23: 201/278 = 0.723021582733813
24: 202/279 = 0.724014336917563
25: 203/280 = 0.725
26: 204/281 = 0.725978647686833
27: 205/282 = 0.726950354609929
28: 206/283 = 0.72791519434629
29: 207/284 = 0.72887323943662
30: 208/285 = 0.729824561403509
31: 209/286 = 0.730769230769231
32: 210/287 = 0.731707317073171
33: 211/288 = 0.732638888888889
34: 212/289 = 0.73356401384083
35: 213/290 = 0.73448275862069
36: 214/291 = 0.735395189003436
37: 215/292 = 0.736301369863014
38: 216/293 = 0.737201365187713
39: 217/294 = 0.738095238095238
40: 218/295 = 0.738983050847458
41: 219/296 = 0.739864864864865
42: 220/297 = 0.740740740740741
43: 221/298 = 0.741610738255034
44: 222/299 = 0.74247491638796
45: 223/300 = 0.743333333333333
46: 224/301 = 0.744186046511628
47: 225/302 = 0.745033112582781
48: 226/303 = 0.745874587458746
49: 227/304 = 0.746710526315789
50: 228/305 = 0.747540983606557
51: 229/306 = 0.748366013071895
52: 230/307 = 0.749185667752443
53: 231/308 = 0.75
54: 232/309 = 0.750809061488673
55: 233/310 = 0.751612903225806
56: 234/311 = 0.752411575562701
57: 235/312 = 0.753205128205128
58: 236/313 = 0.753993610223642
59: 237/314 = 0.754777070063694
60: 238/315 = 0.755555555555556
61: 239/316 = 0.756329113924051
62: 240/317 = 0.757097791798107
63: 241/318 = 0.757861635220126
64: 242/319 = 0.758620689655172
65: 243/320 = 0.759375
66: 244/321 = 0.7601246105919
67: 245/322 = 0.760869565217391
68: 246/323 = 0.761609907120743
69: 247/324 = 0.762345679012346
70: 248/325 = 0.763076923076923
71: 249/326 = 0.763803680981595
72: 250/327 = 0.764525993883792
73: 251/328 = 0.765243902439024
74: 252/329 = 0.765957446808511
75: 253/330 = 0.766666666666667
76: 254/331 = 0.767371601208459
77: 255/332 = 0.768072289156627
78: 256/333 = 0.768768768768769
79: 257/334 = 0.769461077844311
80: 258/335 = 0.770149253731343
81: 259/336 = 0.770833333333333
82: 260/337 = 0.771513353115727
83: 261/338 = 0.772189349112426
84: 262/339 = 0.772861356932153
85: 263/340 = 0.773529411764706
86: 264/341 = 0.774193548387097
87: 265/342 = 0.774853801169591
88: 266/343 = 0.775510204081633
89: 267/344 = 0.776162790697674
90: 268/345 = 0.776811594202899
91: 269/346 = 0.777456647398844
92: 270/347 = 0.778097982708934
93: 271/348 = 0.778735632183908
94: 272/349 = 0.779369627507163
95: 273/350 = 0.78
96: 274/351 = 0.780626780626781
97: 275/352 = 0.78125
98: 276/353 = 0.781869688385269
99: 277/354 = 0.782485875706215
100: 278/355 = 0.783098591549296
101: 279/356 = 0.783707865168539
102: 280/357 = 0.784313725490196
103: 281/358 = 0.784916201117318
104: 282/359 = 0.785515320334262
105: 283/360 = 0.786111111111111
106: 284/361 = 0.786703601108033
107: 285/362 = 0.787292817679558
108: 286/363 = 0.787878787878788
109: 287/364 = 0.788461538461538
110: 288/365 = 0.789041095890411
111: 289/366 = 0.789617486338798
112: 290/367 = 0.790190735694823
113: 291/368 = 0.790760869565217
114: 292/369 = 0.791327913279133
115: 293/370 = 0.791891891891892
116: 294/371 = 0.792452830188679
117: 295/372 = 0.793010752688172
118: 296/373 = 0.793565683646113
119: 297/374 = 0.794117647058823
120: 298/375 = 0.794666666666667
121: 299/376 = 0.795212765957447
122: 300/377 = 0.795755968169761
123: 301/378 = 0.796296296296296
124: 302/379 = 0.796833773087071
125: 303/380 = 0.797368421052632
126: 304/381 = 0.797900262467192
127: 305/382 = 0.798429319371728
128: 306/383 = 0.798955613577023
129: 307/384 = 0.799479166666667
130: 308/385 = 0.8

[LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS]

DANG!!! 180 positives just to get to 80%?

[amid]

Good thing for me you don't own the internet. What I'm saying is true. However, I don't care enough about this stuff to argue about it. Just don't act like an tough guy by saying "Everyone else can stay the hell off this thread". Makes you sound like a ******* yourself. I will have a good day, its Saturday. You do the same.

yea gunther is pretty much the forum bully (he picks on me all the time). he lives in oregon with about 32 other people, so there's no one there for a playground bully to pick on... so he comes on here... sad.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc73/tjspeaks/cb1-2.jpg

[Gunther]

yea gunther is pretty much the forum bully (he picks on me all the time). he lives in oregon with about 32 other people, so there's no one there for a playground bully to pick on... so he comes on here... sad.
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/uncle-sam/images/stop-whining.jpg

[amid]

shut up gunther, u too KATZ

[Get Crazy]

Numbski...make another GT, call it numbskiER, play on that for 2 months free, then your "numbski" gt should be clear of all games and percentages

[Gunther]

the rating never goes away just the ranking and win loss record.

even if there is a 2k9 your rating will carry over.

Atleast it does on the other 2k sports games.

[illmatic32]

Wow..you worry too much..But i guess you cant any game can you with that rating..lol..

[BenRThaG.O.A.T]

I'd gladly change that neg I gave you a couple a months ago... if somehow you can repay me that hour I wasted playing you....

[nflhitman]

yea gunther is pretty much the forum bully (he picks on me all the time). he lives in oregon with about 32 other people, so there's no one there for a playground bully to pick on... so he comes on here... sad.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc73/tjspeaks/cb1-2.jpg

I live in Oregon also so there must be 33 people now.

[Numbski]

@Ben

????

[amid]

I live in Oregon also so there must be 33 people now.

NFLHITMAN,

i WAS counting you and my buddy 96vegas. does gunther and vegas96 really hang out all the time out there in oregon?

[Numbski]

FYI - never mind. I got two negatives in a row instead. Maybe next year... :(

[SD21]

I completely agree. I was about to post about how my rating is BS. I'm at 68% right now. The reason is because I usually play guys with losing records (I'm not good at this game and I like to win when I play). The only problem is that when I win I always get a negative or neutral when I'm playing fair.

Even Don v White trash or whoever he is refused to play me b/c of my rating (he is a 73%). Its starting to **** me off.

This is why I like the PS3. Way less kids on. Most mature adults will leave a positive feedback even upon losing a game as long as you played fair. With 360, there are just way too many kids. I noticed the kids are the ones that have a hard time giving credit where it is due after a loss. My feedback is @ 92% and that's with a good wins to losses ratio.

[amid]

FYI - never mind. I got two negatives in a row instead. Maybe next year... :(

Numbski, if it will make you feel any worse, i need 5 unique positive/neutral ratings to have 95%. we really had a good game going yesterday until the game unregistered, i'll look for you online. gt:tjspeaks

[Jgigs]

I'll play anyone. I've slightly about avg. Ranked between 800-1000 with a record of 16-11-0-0. 98% positive feedback and a nice green smiley face.

I'm avil anytime from 4:30 EST and after. XBL Gamertag Arkain01

[amid]

I'll play anyone. I've slightly about avg. Ranked between 800-1000 with a record of 16-11-0-0. 98% positive feedback and a nice green smiley face.

I'm avil anytime from 4:30 EST and after. XBL Gamertag Arkain01
so many "lowly noobs"... so little time :cool:
(3 of us actually have jobs)

[Jgigs]

so many "lowly noobs"... so little time :cool:

But I'm sure you can't touch my ranking. :p

[amid]

i'm sure i can't

[Gunther]

Go ahead touch his ranking you know you want to....

[Numbski]

LOL

I'm snowed in today. I'm going to jump on and see if I can get a game. ;)

[Numbski]

Well that sucks. Was playing Gunther and lost my connection to 2K. :(

[Numbski]

Ah, no wonder. Ma Bell was outside futzing with the line. I should be good now.

[Fre@k of $atan7]

:D

I need to 2 more positives to FINALLY get back up to a 70% rating. Sheesh. The last week I've had nothing but positives/neutrals, and still at 69%. I ran the math this morning, and I'm 178/255. That's 69.8%. Another positive puts me at 179/256, or 69.9%, and the second one finally puts me over the top at 180/257 - almost exactly 70%.

Side note: everyone is hung up on percentages around here, but did it ever occur to some of you guys to pay attention to the number of unique people played?

178 people thought I was okay, and 77 did not. Faced with looking at it that way, would you still think I was cheese vs. seeing a 69%? Just a thought.

So how you doing with getting that 70%???? Probably not to good considering I got to give you a negitive today....You don't quit league games, I don't care if you were losing 21-7....I was losing by almost the same identical score to intensiD earlier today, but I didn't run off and quit. I stayed in their and made comeback in the 4th qtr to win the game.

I will say this...You are not cheese.....BUT...you are one of the biggest babies I've seen on this game, and well deserving of that 65% feedback

[Numbski]

I quit because I have more important things to do than sit there and ISO, ISO, ISO, punt, since anything else I do is considered being a poor sport. You got your win, what is your problem?

[Fre@k of $atan7]

I quit because I have more important things to do than sit there and ISO, ISO, ISO, punt, since anything else I do is considered being a poor sport. You got your win, what is your problem?

Maybe you could learn from your losses and take them like a man....You seriously act like a 8 year old when playing. I don't know if you are new to leagues, or not...but you don't quit league games....Go ahead and quit all the lobby games you want....but when you sign up for a league, you play your scheduled games and you take your an@l rapings like a man.

[Fre@k of $atan7]

since anything else I do is considered being a poor sport.?

Lets clear this up real quick.... i don't recall who it was that you had quit/gave up on earlier....but when you come out and just down the ball every possession to start the third qtr, people will call you a poor sport. When you drop back with your QB and then take a dive with him every down, that is considered a poor sport.

Here you go...read up on it a bit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportsmanship

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3823970/2/istockphoto_3823970_sore_loser.jpg

[Numbski]

Whatever. You got your precious win. Like it and leave me alone. Just because you don't get the chance to run up the score with your easy-win squad doesn't make me the poor sport. Did I come ok here and complain? Berate your play style? No - I concede victory, and rated you positive. Some people aren't happy if you gift wrap the win and hand it to them on a silver platter.

[kod68]

and you take your an@l rapings like a man.
I don't think that is something that a man would take like a man.

[JHova1982]

I feel freak of satan tho. I don't respect quitters. its more than just a win its like showing some type of class online on the football field

u never know what gone happen u may get 2 int return for td or something. like today I play im number1234 and 5 or somethin like that and I was down 21 to 10 at half and at the end of the game I won 31 to 30 and one of my td was a int return

[Fre@k of $atan7]

easy-win squad

You know, I really wish everyone would put their best teams on the field......Sorry, but I don't need to rely on GOLD Corners to stop the pass....I think you are just upset that I was able to put up 21 pts on your SUPER D and it was only midway thru the 2nd qtr.

[Numbski]

I simply WILL NOT field an offensively stacked squad just to be like everyone else and have last possession win. Sure, I could win that way, but then a brain-dead chimp could too. There isn't skill involved with that team build, which is why just about everyone uses it - it makes for an easy win.

Most common team build (because you don't have to think and you still win):

Gold WR (Usually Jerry Rice)
Gold HB (varies)

Silver WR (Usually Don Maynard)
Randall Cunningham
Silver TE (Usually Ben Coates)

Variation number 1 (which is what Freakish Mind had:

Gold HB (in this case, CAP Adrian Peterson)
Gold QB

Silver WR (Don Maynard)
Silver WR (Dante Lavelli)
Silver TE (Ben Coates)

Both of these team builds have the exact same gameplan - all offense, and totally ignore defense - you technically are putting defensive stars on the field, but they don't matter - because there won't be any punting. You'll put up 7 every time. Run deep outs out of an Ace pattern, and if by some fluke both of the outs AND the post route happen to get covered, then you dump it off to the HB. Run it up gut once in a while just to make for good looks (and in leagues a Gold HB will break a tackle guaranteed every single time regardless of who is around), and you'll win every time. No thought required.

So I'm supposed to sit here and worry about "class". Right. Okay - bye.

[hibachiii]

I simply WILL NOT field an offensively stacked squad just to be like everyone else and have last possession win. Sure, I could win that way, but then a brain-dead chimp could too. There isn't skill involved with that team build, which is why just about everyone uses it - it makes for an easy win.

Most common team build (because you don't have to think and you still win):

Gold WR (Usually Jerry Rice)
Gold HB (varies)

Silver WR (Usually Don Maynard)
Randall Cunningham
Silver TE (Usually Ben Coates)

Variation number 1 (which is what Freakish Mind had:

Gold HB (in this case, CAP Adrian Peterson)
Gold QB

Silver WR (Don Maynard)
Silver WR (Dante Lavelli)
Silver TE (Ben Coates)

Both of these team builds have the exact same gameplan - all offense, and totally ignore defense - you technically are putting defensive stars on the field, but they don't matter - because there won't be any punting. You'll put up 7 every time. Run deep outs out of an Ace pattern, and if by some fluke both of the outs AND the post route happen to get covered, then you dump it off to the HB. Run it up gut once in a while just to make for good looks (and in leagues a Gold HB will break a tackle guaranteed every single time regardless of who is around), and you'll win every time. No thought required.

So I'm supposed to sit here and worry about "class". Right. Okay - bye.
He's gonna win anways. He still has 6 players on D and you only have 2 (3?) players on offense. All he has to do is stop you once, and your game plan is done.

[Fre@k of $atan7]

Numbski, I've played 12 games in the M o C so far and I've given up 215 pts, and that is with 5 bronze stars on Defense, along with a Bronze Kicker.

You on the other hand with 9 starts on defense 2 gold 2 silvers and 5 bronze, you have given up 218 pts in 11 games

Freaks team w/5 bronze defense 12 / 215 = 17.9 pts per game
Numbskis team with 9 defensive players 11 / 218 19.8 pts per game

[Someone]

Numbski. I inherited your team for the league. My first game I lost in the final 3 seconds because I threw a stupid pick instead of playing to the teams strength and taking it to OT and letting my D win. I shut TJ down to 13 points for the entire game. That team is so defensively stacked its crazy.

[Numbski]

Perhaps on the ppg average, but the stat that's missing there is "points that came from the glitchy fade pattern and the cornerback let the WR run right by without moving" stat. Happens AT LEAST once per game. The good old "keep safety help over the top" is not only useless advice (usually doesn't help), but isn't reasonable when someone has 3 star receiving options and a gold halfback. You MUST bring a safety into the box.

[badasp83]

I for one like a balanced team with 5 stars on Offense & 6 on defense.

[JHova1982]

I simply WILL NOT field an offensively stacked squad just to be like everyone else and have last possession win. Sure, I could win that way, but then a brain-dead chimp could too. There isn't skill involved with that team build, which is why just about everyone uses it - it makes for an easy win.

Most common team build (because you don't have to think and you still win):

Gold WR (Usually Jerry Rice)
Gold HB (varies)

Silver WR (Usually Don Maynard)
Randall Cunningham
Silver TE (Usually Ben Coates)

Variation number 1 (which is what Freakish Mind had:

Gold HB (in this case, CAP Adrian Peterson)
Gold QB

Silver WR (Don Maynard)
Silver WR (Dante Lavelli)
Silver TE (Ben Coates)

Both of these team builds have the exact same gameplan - all offense, and totally ignore defense - you technically are putting defensive stars on the field, but they don't matter - because there won't be any punting. You'll put up 7 every time. Run deep outs out of an Ace pattern, and if by some fluke both of the outs AND the post route happen to get covered, then you dump it off to the HB. Run it up gut once in a while just to make for good looks (and in leagues a Gold HB will break a tackle guaranteed every single time regardless of who is around), and you'll win every time. No thought required.

So I'm supposed to sit here and worry about "class". Right. Okay - bye.

to me it almost sound like u terrified of some of these legends. Maynard, Rice, Coates, and some other probably on offense. there is no broken routes on this game besides that hot route slant glitch so i totally disagree that these deep outs routes and fade routes are broken or cant be stop.

that team setup u mention is only a winning system cause everybody else has that system and trying to stop each other using generics and bronze legends. but if either of then come against someone who plays some defense like myself they cant handle it cause the plays that have worked for the past 15 games cant work against me.

and they shouldnt work on u too with your vicious defense setup but your predictability will be your defense downfall (actually it has been and it shows with your feedback and losing record) cause u cant make it up offensively. thats game i describe earlier where i won 31-30 he had Maynard and Rice and a TE(cant remember) and we both had Turnovers for TD but over all it a good defensive game on my part

[Numbski]

Of give me a freaking break.

You're honestly telling me that the fade isn't busted. I should show you replay, after replay, after replay of CB's standing there doing absolutely NOTHING to cover it. They finally snap out of it after the WR is 5 yards past them and go "oh, maybe I should follow him". I can't have safety help over the top ALL the time either, especially vs a gold halfback. All they'll do is run dives on you until you remove the safety, and they watch the WR run right past you CB for a touchdown. That route *IS* busted. Show me proof of a CB successfully defending that route when NOT being manually controlled, and I'll listen, otherwise it's busted. I'm not saying the AI has to do it right all the time, I'm saying the AI MUST have the capacity to do it AT ALL, and as of right now, that's not what I'm seeing.

Coates catches the ball with defenders draped all over him consistently. Someone can build a game around posts and corners to him all game, ignore the rest of the offense, and be successful, manually covered or not. Combine him with a pair of Route Gods...

Why am I bothering to defend myself here? I'm right. Period.

[JHova1982]

Of give me a freaking break.

You're honestly telling me that the fade isn't busted. I should show you replay, after replay, after replay of CB's standing there doing absolutely NOTHING to cover it. They finally snap out of it after the WR is 5 yards past them and go "oh, maybe I should follow him". I can't have safety help over the top ALL the time either, especially vs a gold halfback. All they'll do is run dives on you until you remove the safety, and they watch the WR run right past you CB for a touchdown. That route *IS* busted. Show me proof of a CB successfully defending that route when NOT being manually controlled, and I'll listen, otherwise it's busted. I'm not saying the AI has to do it right all the time, I'm saying the AI MUST have the capacity to do it AT ALL, and as of right now, that's not what I'm seeing.

Coates catches the ball with defenders draped all over him consistently. Someone can build a game around posts and corners to him all game, ignore the rest of the offense, and be successful, manually covered or not. Combine him with a pair of Route Gods...

Why am I bothering to defend myself here? I'm right. Period.

we have two different styles of defense and with my defensive strategy im not worried about that GOLD RB cause my run defense is ON POINT now since i have generic CB if i run a cover 4 usually i just back them up once and that fade route is defended cause i bring pressure on the QB so he dont have a lot of time to throw that ball.

and i play on my MLB and that TE Mr. Coates is well taking care of and any TE as well except in the gold category. Ditka and mackey and the other TE gold boys are the toughest to cover but i can still hold my own.

[ThunderBird]

I'll be honest, I have tons of quits, and in fact, I would say the majority of those came off quits. Since the reset I have 33 quits, and all but 2 of those were because I was facing total garbage, one was against Gunther here and the other was against hibachiii.

So 77-31: 44. Those other 44 are either because I won (happens very frequently, sadly), or came on quits before the reset. Several prior to the rest were because I went through a very lousy funk ( there's a thread around here someplace documenting that one).

That's not what I started this thread for though! :P

Two people, step right up. :) I need two unique positives. Anyone around here I haven't played yet that minds playing legit for an hour and not rating me down?

Hey, I'll play you as soon as the wireless adapter I ordered comes in and I get all that stuff figured out. You got urself a positive rating.

[Fre@k of $atan7]

Perhaps on the ppg average, but the stat that's missing there is "points that came from the glitchy fade pattern and the cornerback let the WR run right by without moving" stat. Happens AT LEAST once per game. The good old "keep safety help over the top" is not only useless advice (usually doesn't help), but isn't reasonable when someone has 3 star receiving options and a gold halfback. You MUST bring a safety into the box.

All I can say is get off your *** and start playing defense instead of using the D-Line. You wanna drop a safety down in the box, then take control of him and as soon as you know it's not a run, get that safety back to his zone.


Also, you are right, that one stat there is missing about the glitchy fade pattern....you know why, it's because I'm out there working my butt off covering it myself, while you sit on the D-Line and just expect your GOLDS to lock everything down for you.


I'm not sure if you plan on playing me for our 2nd game in the league, but just for the sake of argument, I'll dumb down my offense for you, I'll run with my generic back, and drop 2 out of the 3 receiving threats and my offense will consist of a silver QB and 1 Silver receiver.

[Numbski]

Say WHAT???

I *never* control a d-lineman. Always using a linebacker, usually Studwell. Try again.

You don't have to dumb anything down. You chose that team, go ahead and use it. I don't care. If it turns into a track meet and you win by 60 because my secondary won't do squat, so be it. I'll go watch tv or something until you finish. No big deal.

And what do you want me to do, sit on a cornerback and control them? PLEASE. That has to be the single most braindead position to pick for manual coverage. Don't give me that. The stupid fade route where my CB stands there and goes "duh...maybe I should follow him", is not a reason for me to go control the CB. You have a gold HB in that league. He's going to break a ton of tackles, so I have to focus on him. That means you get to throw the deep ball all day against me because I have to over-compensate for him. My other option is to cover your receivers and your halfback is going to tear me to shreds. There is no stopping it. Heck, I can't even be an effective speed bump. But hey, you chose that team, you get to use it. Go run up the score and have fun doing it. I'll just make sure I have time to sit there and be mindless and have something else to do to keep me occupied while I make sure not to take any delay of game penalties.

After all, I'm being a poor sport to concede that you have the better team and that I'm not going to be able to win.

[ThunderBird]

I think this is the perfect place to ask if controlling the d-line is cheese. I don't think it is, as long as you know what you are doing, just controlling that guy to only stand there because you can't get past a guy, but your coverage skills are horrible is cheese. But if you are trying to get to the quarterback, i see it as no difference to using a blitzing LB or S.

[Fre@k of $atan7]

I just want to make this clear.....about 90% of the things you "WHINE" about probably take place on the wide part of the field "outs, fades, Corners" Yet you play MLB.......Just a thought, but maybe you need to start manually protecting the wide part of the field and let the computer take over the middle of the field for you.


You have never heard me in here whining about not being able to stop those plays. I laugh at people who can't stop them. I laugh at one of the new rules in one of my leagues about people overusing outs....Let them, PLEASE.....I love manually picking them off. Same with the hot corner route, go ahead and use it, Sure it will be successful some of the time, but I'll pick it off or bat it down more then not.

[Numbski]

The deep out I don't mind. It's the TE over the middle that becomes somewhat invincible. Corners to the TE for the same reason, manually covered or not. The fade route I've explained, the CB just stands there and lets them go by, be it man coverage or deep zone. Seen it time and again. I can't be in two places at once. The biggest threat you have on the field is your HB. Trust the AI to cover him? Pffft. That's a joke. The AI will open the flood gates and escort him to the endzone. I have to be able to trust *someone*, and I will generally take my chances with the db's. At least WR's don't tend to break too many tackles. If they do what they're told, I can usually minimize the damage. It's when they don't do what they're told is when I "whine". I tell someone to cover a WR, then at least pretend to follow closely THEN let the WR catch the ball. Don't just stand there. If the CPU would at least pretend to care then maybe I'd shut up.

Anyway - point's been made. You went and dug up this thread from months ago because you feel I deserve my rating. You are welcome to that opinion. I disagree, and I'm entitled to that. I did nothing disrespectful to you. I simply said "This game's been decided, no point in continuing.", quit, rated you positive.

You proceed to come on here, dig up an old thread, and tell the world that I deserve the lot I'm given. Fine. You've made your point. Let it die.

[twosilk]

I think this is the perfect place to ask if controlling the d-line is cheese. I don't think it is, as long as you know what you are doing, just controlling that guy to only stand there because you can't get past a guy, but your coverage skills are horrible is cheese. But if you are trying to get to the quarterback, i see it as no difference to using a blitzing LB or S.

i think the charged up move is okay, because if you see you controlling that dline, then i know more or less what is coming, but what i have found out, is that human controlled dlinemen tend to be easier to run against. i think the basis of this thread is that you have to concede something to stop something else. if you wanna stop the run you have to be able to control the inside linebackers, but to stop the passing game you need to at least be able to outside linebacker, of not the safety to the wide side, then you have this question, do you follow the play, or just freelance potentially leaving a huge gap in the defense??? if you listen to everybody on here, they can control all 11 guys at the same time, and they never give up a big play at all.

[FADED]

So how you doing with getting that 70%???? Probably not to good considering I got to give you a negitive today....You don't quit league games, I don't care if you were losing 21-7....I was losing by almost the same identical score to intensiD earlier today, but I didn't run off and quit. I stayed in their and made comeback in the 4th qtr to win the game.

I will say this...You are not cheese.....BUT...you are one of the biggest babies I've seen on this game, and well deserving of that 65% feedback

yeah freak u not alone, he quit on me also in a league game, but check this out he waits until i'm about 2 score the go ahead TD to win tha game. then he hops on the forums saying he quit on me cause i was throwing into coverage. LMAO

thing is though if i was doing that all game why didn't he quit when it was happening all game(as he puts it), no he waits until i'm about to win the game.

u put it best man he's a sore loser/crybaby!!!!

[xManning1018x]

If my Xbox wasn't on the fritz, I'd pay you back for that neg I gave you so long, long ago.