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soonersam
March 2nd, 2008, 11:56 AM
Ok offical thread for the new player draft since the other thread is full of so much B.S.
Here's the new player list/draft order. Ok dispite previous statments made by me the draft will start at 2:00 PM central
It's not to late to join just leave your gamertag and your feedback.
Storm1580
The Truth 808
awesome/carriar2
KingOfTheBeasts (ecology on forums)
LeHoTheToad
xTh3Phenomx
M CARDOSO
DirtyPersian
WreckersTM
anoles5
dirtypeewix
Here is a list of returning owners and their teams
Coljack - Ravens
ColtonS - 49ers
LSU - Jags
Mr. Cheese Bills
turtle - Giants
Soonersam - browns
maize and blue - Colts
bobbit - Vikings
Hitman - Seahawks
NY KIA31 - Jets
ranger/raider - Raiders
manning - Chargers
So the open teams are by Divison
AFC East
New England Patriots
Buffalo Bills
AFC North
Cinncy Bengals
Pittisburgh Steelers
AFC South
Tenn. Titans
Houstan Texans
AFC West
Denver Broncos
Kansas City Cheifs
NFC East
Dallas Cowboys
Washington Redskins
Philly Eagles
NFC North
Chicago Bears
Green Bay Packers
Detriot Lions
NFC South
Tampa Bay Bucs
Atlanta Falcons
New Orleans Saints
NFC West
Arizona Cardinals
Current players if there any faults in my post please notify me ASAP, and I will correct them.
Thank You and Good Luck Everyone.
soonersam
March 2nd, 2008, 12:29 PM
Storm1580 - Skipped MAKE PICK ASAP!
The Truth 808 - OTC untill 3:00 central
awesome/carriar2
KingOfTheBeasts (ecology on forums)
LeHoTheToad
xTh3Phenomx
M CARDOSO
DirtyPersian
WreckersTM
anoles5
dirtypeewix
nyknicks33
March 2nd, 2008, 12:31 PM
I'm sticking with my jets
soonersam
March 2nd, 2008, 12:34 PM
Thank you, the first posted has been edited to reflect that.
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 12:39 PM
Thanks soonersam.
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 12:54 PM
Open up the Rams, I'm taking the Chargers.
Smook23
March 2nd, 2008, 12:56 PM
Open up the Eagles im sticking with my raven boys
soonersam
March 2nd, 2008, 01:02 PM
Ok updates have been made.
Storm1580 - Skipped MAKE PICK ASAP!
The Truth 808 - Skipped MAKE PICK ASAP!
awesome/carriar2 - Packers
KingOfTheBeasts (ecology on forums) - OTC untill 3:30 central
LeHoTheToad
xTh3Phenomx
M CARDOSO
DirtyPersian
WreckersTM
anoles5
dirtypeewix
eckology
March 2nd, 2008, 01:14 PM
Ahh...who to take..who to take?
Can I get a list of teams that have NEVER been used in the XFL before?
soonersam
March 2nd, 2008, 01:18 PM
^ Falcons, Saints, Broncos, Dolphins, Bills. I think thats it.
ferozkq
March 2nd, 2008, 01:25 PM
is smook coljack?? in that case I'll take over the eagles I want eagles.
soonersam
March 2nd, 2008, 01:27 PM
is smook coljack?? in that case I'll take over the eagles I want eagles.
Yes but it is not your turn to pick, please look on the first page for the draft order and wait till that time to make your pick. Thank You.
eckology
March 2nd, 2008, 01:28 PM
Even though I am a JETS FAN... I am going to go with the Dolphins
soonersam
March 2nd, 2008, 01:32 PM
^ Thank You and good luck. On a side note I will be leaving the computer so can somebody keep the draft going?
Ok updates have been made.
Storm1580 - Skipped MAKE PICK ASAP!
The Truth 808 - Skipped MAKE PICK ASAP!
awesome/carriar2 - Packers
KingOfTheBeasts (ecology on forums) - Dolphins
LeHoTheToad - OTC until 4:00 central
xTh3Phenomx
M CARDOSO
DirtyPersian
WreckersTM
anoles5
dirtypeewix
eckology
March 2nd, 2008, 01:34 PM
Jason Taylor, Tedd Ginn, Ronnie Brown, Ernest Wilford, Jason Ferguson, Channing Crowder, Joey Porter, Will Allen, Renaldo Hill and McCown or Beck...I think I can make that work....
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 01:38 PM
I got it soonersam.
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 01:43 PM
HOW MUCH TIME IS IT BETWEEN PICKS????
awesome
March 2nd, 2008, 01:46 PM
Cardoso seriously calm your a s s down god damn.
Hey Manning, who are gold eligible for the Pack?
I was thinking Al Harris, Aaron Kampman, Brett Favre, and Greg Jennings?
The Galloping Ghost
March 2nd, 2008, 01:59 PM
Damn, I was going to take the Dolphins. Skip me for now, I'll pick as soon as I can.
The Truth 808
March 2nd, 2008, 02:07 PM
I want the Saints
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 02:24 PM
Storm1580 - Skipped - Pick ASAP!
The Truth 808 - Saints
awesome/carriar2 - Packers
KingOfTheBeasts (ecology on forums) - Dolphins
LeHoTheToad - Skipped, make pick ASAP
xTh3Phenomx - OTC until 5:00 central
M CARDOSO
DirtyPersian
WreckersTM
anoles5
dirtypeewix
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 02:25 PM
Cardoso seriously calm your a s s down god damn.
Hey Manning, who are gold eligible for the Pack?
I was thinking Al Harris, Aaron Kampman, Brett Favre, and Greg Jennings?
Those would be the big four.
You have to have Favre though :D
ferozkq
March 2nd, 2008, 02:30 PM
Those would be the big four.
You have to have Favre though :D
favre doesnt have to be his gold barnett would be considered a gold
The Galloping Ghost
March 2nd, 2008, 02:30 PM
Give me the Broncos.
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 02:33 PM
Storm1580 - Skipped - Pick ASAP!
The Truth 808 - Saints
awesome/carriar2 - Packers
KingOfTheBeasts (ecology on forums) - Dolphins
LeHoTheToad - Broncos
xTh3Phenomx - OTC until 5:00 central
M CARDOSO
DirtyPersian
WreckersTM
anoles5
dirtypeewix
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 02:52 PM
7:30 MORE MINS UNTILL I MAKE MY PICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 02:54 PM
^^^ Yay!!!
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 02:58 PM
1 more min
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 03:03 PM
Storm1580 - Skipped - Pick ASAP!
The Truth 808 - Saints
awesome/carriar2 - Packers
KingOfTheBeasts (ecology on forums) - Dolphins
LeHoTheToad - Broncos
xTh3Phenomx - Skipped - make pick ASAP!
M CARDOSO - OTC until 5:30 central
DirtyPersian
WreckersTM
anoles5
dirtypeewix
ferozkq
March 2nd, 2008, 03:15 PM
he's all eager to pick and now he still hasn't picked.
eckology
March 2nd, 2008, 03:19 PM
I'd say Donald Driver would be considered a Gold...and I don't know about Harris.
Plaxico merked him out bad in that playoff game. Choke city...
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 03:25 PM
he's all eager to pick and now he still hasn't picked.
actually the teams i had in mind were picked. and i dont want to make a stupid decision.
Loreno Bobbit said he wants to drop the Vikings and pick his team after everyone else has picked
My pick is the Vikings and does this sound good
GOLD- Adrian Peterson - HB
GOLD- Steve Hutchinson - LG
SILVER- Pat Williams - DT
SILVER- Kevin Williams - DT
SILVER- Darren Sharper - SS
BRONZE- Antoine Winfield - CB
BRONZE- Tarvaris Jackson - QB
BRONZE- Bernard Berian - WR
BRONZE- Sidney Rice - WR
BRONZE- Jim Kleinsasser - TE
BRONZE- Chester Taylor - HB
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 03:27 PM
actually the teams i had in mind were picked. and i dont want to make a stupid decision.
Loreno Bobbit said he wants to drop the Vikings and pick his team after everyone else has picked
My pick is the Vikings and does this sound good
GOLD- Adrian Peterson - HB
GOLD- Steve Hutchinson - LG
SILVER- Pat Williams - DT
SILVER- Kevin Williams - DT
SILVER- Darren Sharper - SS
BRONZE- Antoine Winfield - CB
BRONZE- Tarvaris Jackson - QB
BRONZE- Bernard Berian - WR
BRONZE- Sidney Rice - WR
BRONZE- Jim Kleinsasser - TE
BRONZE- Chester Taylor - HB
actually can i change pat williams and steve hutchinson around
ferozkq
March 2nd, 2008, 03:31 PM
I'll take Eagles.
awesome
March 2nd, 2008, 03:34 PM
These are currently the two teams I am contemplating:
Gold-Al Harris, Aaron Kampman
Silver-Brett Favre, Ryan Grant, Greg Jennings
Bronze-AJ Hawk, Charles Woodson, Donald Driver, James Jones, Donald Lee, Atari Bigby
Gold-Brett Favre, Greg Jennings
Silver-Al Harris, AJ Hawk, Aaron Kampman
Bronze-Ryan Grant, Donald Driver, Charles Woodson, Donald Lee, Atari Bigby, James Jones
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 03:35 PM
^^^ Aren't the Eagles taken?
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 03:35 PM
^^^ Aren't the Eagles taken?
Smook released them for his Ravens.
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 03:35 PM
Storm1580 - Skipped - Pick ASAP!
The Truth 808 - Saints
awesome/carriar2 - Packers
KingOfTheBeasts (ecology on forums) - Dolphins
LeHoTheToad - Broncos
xTh3Phenomx - Skipped - make pick ASAP!
M CARDOSO - Vikings
DirtyPersian - Eagles
WreckersTM - OTC until 6:15 central
anoles5
dirtypeewix
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 03:37 PM
Ooh. Smook is going to the dark side.
awesome
March 2nd, 2008, 03:39 PM
I tried playing with the Ravens but I just could not convert on third and long. I had Gold McGahee, Silver Heap, Bronze McNair and Mason and it was brutal on anything above 3rd and 7.
ferozkq
March 2nd, 2008, 03:43 PM
wreckers is choosing the steelers
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 03:46 PM
Storm1580 - Skipped - Pick ASAP!
The Truth 808 - Saints
awesome/carriar2 - Packers
KingOfTheBeasts (ecology on forums) - Dolphins
LeHoTheToad - Broncos
xTh3Phenomx - Skipped - make pick ASAP!
M CARDOSO - Vikings
DirtyPersian - Eagles
WreckersTM - Steelers
anoles5 - OTC until 6:15 central
dirtypeewix
eckology
March 2nd, 2008, 03:46 PM
Just finished the Miami Flippers...
Gold - Ronnie Brown, Jason Taylor
Silver - Tedd Ginn, Joey Porter, Channing Crowder
Bronze - Ernest Wilford, Will Allen, Renaldo Hill, Jason Ferguson, John Beck, Jay Feely
eckology
March 2nd, 2008, 03:48 PM
Anybody wanna run one?
awesome
March 2nd, 2008, 03:49 PM
Eckology, I definetely will later tonight after I eat dinner if I have the time.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 03:50 PM
^^^ eckology, I'll play you in like 10 min
But, IMO, Tedd Ginn doesn't deserve silver. 420 yards, and 2 tds is bronze.
Tell22
March 2nd, 2008, 03:51 PM
I didnt know you were KingoftheBeasts.............good game yesterday
ferozkq
March 2nd, 2008, 03:52 PM
dirtypeewiz picks the cards. just taking a shower so I won't be here.
awesome
March 2nd, 2008, 03:53 PM
Yeah and I don't think Joey Porter is a Silver either.
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 03:57 PM
tell me if this is good abilities for adrian peterson
finesse and power
branching tackles
break away burst
workhorse
do those sound good and im not sure what i want to give him as his last ability any suggetions?
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 04:00 PM
Speed, Battering ram, ankle breaker, cutback, BT.
That was what soonersam had him at, and hes such a BEAST!!!
awesome
March 2nd, 2008, 04:00 PM
Not workhorse, atleast at this point in his career. He splits carries with Chester Taylor, and in my opinion a workhorse is someone with 25+ carries a game.
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 04:03 PM
what about
finesse and power
BAB
branching tackles
cutback
quick feet
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 04:04 PM
I thought 5 ability guys couldn't give finesse and power?
awesome
March 2nd, 2008, 04:05 PM
I dunno I heard they were thinking about not allowing it.
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 04:08 PM
No F&P on five ability golds. Players with 3 abilities can use it however.
The Galloping Ghost
March 2nd, 2008, 04:12 PM
Would someone mind giving me a hand in setting up my Broncos team. Thanks.
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 04:13 PM
ok i think im gonna go with LSU'S adrian petersons abilities
eckology
March 2nd, 2008, 04:22 PM
Ginn was the number one threat on offense after Ronnie Brown went down and Chambers was traded away. And he is the return specialist. Booker is gone...can you name another receiver on the Dolphins? Ginn is the only GAMEBREAKER left on the team that isnt named Ronnie Brown. If you take away Booker (who is no longer with the team) Ginn has the highest totals in all receiving statistics out of wide receivers last season...he will be the number one wideout this year.
Joey Porter was second in tackles this year for the Dolphins as well as sacks.
Star Levels should be on a TEAM BY TEAM basis. That is to say, the Dolphins stars are few and far between.
I've done my research, and watched my fair share of the Dolphins last year. What would your team be?
The Galloping Ghost
March 2nd, 2008, 04:40 PM
You're right about the Dolphins. Since Thomas is now with the Cowboys they really only have one legitimate gold tier player (if you are comparing them to other teams).
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 04:48 PM
Would someone mind giving me a hand in setting up my Broncos team. Thanks.
Tell22's team from the NSL:
CB - Champ Bailey (Bump Master, Speed Burner, Coverage Bonus, Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Brandon Marshall (Soft Hands, Breakaway Burst, Strength Bonus, Possession Receiver, Tough in the Middle)
ILB - D.J. Williams (Run Coverage, Quick Feet)
QB - Jay Cutler (Scrambler, Rocket Arm)
HB - Travis Henry (Branching Tackles, Workhorse)
DE - Elvis Dumervil (Pass Rush Bonus)
CB - Dre Bly (Ball Hawk)
SS - John Lynch (Leadership)
WR - Javon Walker (Soft Hands)
TE - Tony Scheffler (Soft Hands)
OLB - Ian Gold (Closing Speed)
eckology
March 2nd, 2008, 04:52 PM
You're right about the Dolphins. Since Thomas is now with the Cowboys they really only have one legitimate gold tier player (if you are comparing them to other teams).
I mean not even, I'd say Taylor and Brown are legitimate Gold Stars.
My point is that some teams have more players to choose from while others have fewer all-pro players. The Cowboys are a perefect example...
You could argue Gold Stars for the cowboys...Terrell Owens, Jason Witten, DeMarcus Ware, Tony Romo with a handful of Silver Star players mixed in with the players that don't make the Gold Cut...Terrence Newman, Roy Williams, Marion Barber...and then you factor in the offensive lineman.
Then you have teams like the Dolphins, who really don't have a legitimate 11 star worthy players. Do I think 420 receiving yards and two touchdowns is a legitimate cause for the title of second tier talent in the NFL? Absolutely not. But when you factor in what the Dolphins have to offer, and what Ted Ginn means to that team in terms of explosiveness (he is the sole piece of TNT) I have no problem giving JR. a Silver star.
The Galloping Ghost
March 2nd, 2008, 04:53 PM
Thanks for the input.
soonersam
March 2nd, 2008, 04:58 PM
Speed, Battering ram, ankle breaker, cutback, BT.
That was what soonersam had him at, and hes such a BEAST!!!
Yes and no on the beast part early in season he didn't really play like a gold with branching tackles. Then after Sharper went down he's seemed stronger and faster, it might just be in my mind but maybe when Sharper went down he's picked up his play like he has to carry the team more since I only have one gold.
For example the first play after Sharper got hurt, he slipped out a bronze lb, then trucked a saftey and out ran Polumao for a 60 some yard TD. Then recently he's been running harder.
Really the most realistic Peterson from what I seen of all his college games and 8 NFL games I've seen of him is this.
Speed Burner (sub 4.4 speed)
Break Away Burst (has a second gear when he hits the hole)
Cut Back Ability (Cuts back with ease)
Battering Ram (He refuse to go out of bounds and will throw his body at defenders)
Branching Tackles (No sissy arm tackle will bring him down)
But I doubt you can convice manning to add on break away burst cause I couldn't last year.
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 05:12 PM
hey manning is it ok if i have steve hutch a silver, pat williams a silver and darren sharper a gold
soonersam
March 2nd, 2008, 05:18 PM
Heres a suggestion for the vikings cause I'm bored
Gold
AD - Speed, Battering ram, ankle breaker, cutback, BT
Sharper - Closing Speed, Ball Hawk, Leadership, Wrap Up Tackler, Run Coverage
Silver
Hutch - Bulldozer, Leadership
Kevin Williams - Pass Rush Bonus, Rip
Pat Williams - Run Coverage, Strentgh Bonus
Bronze
Jackson - Speed Burner
Wade - Soft Hands
Berrian - Deep Threat
Henderson - Run Coverage
Winfield - Ballhawk
Griffin - Coverage Bonus
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 05:20 PM
and for adrian peterson can i give him
power
quick feet
break away burst
cutback
strength bonus
soonersam
March 2nd, 2008, 05:23 PM
Peterson has little to no stiff arm so battering ram is more like AD.
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 05:26 PM
Peterson has little to no stiff arm so battering ram is more like AD.
what??? he stiff armd a ton of people
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 05:26 PM
and for adrian peterson can i give him
power
quick feet
break away burst
cutback
strength bonus
No strength bonus for AD.
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 05:33 PM
how no strenght he can bench like 400 pounds
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 05:35 PM
also he breaks a ton of arm tackles how would he not get strenght???
nflhitman
March 2nd, 2008, 05:37 PM
how no strenght he can bench like 400 pounds
Strength Bonus in the football sense is way more than a bench press. It is all about Football strength. The attributes I would give AD is.....
Speed Burner
Cutback Ability
Cyclone
Break Away Burst
Quick Feet
turtl83
March 2nd, 2008, 05:40 PM
manning i wanna change my team to the Bears.that means the Giants are open
nflhitman
March 2nd, 2008, 05:40 PM
I dont see AD with Branching Tackles, Strength Bonus, or anything with power. He is like Barry Sanders without BT. He just out runs, spins, and jukes out of Tackles. He doesnt really break tackles he just doesnt get touched.
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 05:44 PM
also he breaks a ton of arm tackles how would he not get strenght???
Branching Tackles :)
Even BT is a stretch for AD, but I can see it.
OUsooners1828
March 2nd, 2008, 05:46 PM
woah woah patriots are open? can i have them?
Smook23
March 2nd, 2008, 05:48 PM
U CAN HAVE THEM B****ES
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 05:48 PM
Watch the 1 min. mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSSHm9rYwQQ
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 05:49 PM
Go for it OU.
Chargers:
GOLD
LT - Speed Burner, BT, Soft Hands, BAB, Possession Receiver
Jamal Williams - Strength Bonus, Club, ???
SILVER
Philip Rivers (60% completion, 3000+ yards, 21 TDs, 15 INT) - Quick Release, ???
Shawne Merriman - Quick Feet, Leadership (May add Sack Master)
Antonio Gates - Route God, ???
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 05:52 PM
ok how about
BRANCHING TACKLES
BREAK AWAY BURST
QUICK FEET
SPEED BURNER
POWER
OUsooners1828
March 2nd, 2008, 06:00 PM
actually nvm, they lost wayyy too many people in the FA, are the Skins still open?
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 06:06 PM
actually nvm, they lost wayyy too many people in the FA, are the Skins still open?
Yep.
M Cardoso, battering ram is more suited than power for AD.
OUsooners1828
March 2nd, 2008, 06:08 PM
i wont be putting sean taylor on my team then i dont think its fair rly
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 06:12 PM
GOLD- Adrian Peterson- BAB,BT,quick feet, Speed burner, battering ram
GOLD- Darren Shapper- Ball Hawk, Closing, Leadership, WT, Quickfeet
SILVER- Steve Hutchinson- LEADERSHIP, BULLDOZER
SILVER- Kevin Williams- PASS RUSH BONUS, STRENGTH BONUS
SILVER- E.J. Henderson- WRAP UP TACKLER, QUICK FEET
BRONZE- Tarvaris Jackson- PLAY FAKE
BRONZE- Chester Taylor- QUICK FEET
BRONZE- Bernard Berian- ACROBATIC CATCHES
BRONZE- Sidney Rice- MR. 3RD DOWN
BRONZE- Pat Williams- STRENGHT BONUS
nflhitman
March 2nd, 2008, 06:16 PM
Chargers:
GOLD
LT - Speed Burner, BT, Soft Hands, BAB, Possession Receiver
Jamal Williams - Strength Bonus, Club, Run Coverage, Run Reader, Bull Rush
SILVER
Philip Rivers Quick Release, Tough as Nails
Shawne Merriman - Quick Feet, Closing Speed
Antonio Gates - Route God, Tough in the Middle
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 06:18 PM
HB Fred Taylor (Breakaway Burst, Quick Feet, Finesse, Strength, BT)
DT John Henderson (Run Coverage, Strength, Bull Rush, Leadership, Rip)
QB David Garrard (Leadership, Rocket Arm)
SS Reggie Nelson (Closing Speed, Coverage)
CB Rashean Mathis (Quick Feet, Closing Speed)
WR Reggie Williams (Soft Hands)
WR Matt Jones (Acrobatic Catches)
OG Vince Manuwai (Quick Feet)
MLB Mike Peterson (Run Coverage)
OLB Daryl Smith (Quick Feet)
FS Sammy Knight (Leadership)
ferozkq
March 2nd, 2008, 06:18 PM
would dawkins be considered a gold?
Tell22
March 2nd, 2008, 06:19 PM
then I will take the Niners.....
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 06:20 PM
Chargers:
GOLD
LT - Speed Burner, BT, Soft Hands, BAB, Possession Receiver
Jamal Williams - Strength Bonus, Club, Run Coverage, Run Reader, Bull Rush
SILVER
Philip Rivers Quick Release, Tough as Nails
Shawne Merriman - Quick Feet, Closing Speed
Antonio Gates - Route God, Tough in the Middle
Thanks for the help hitman.
The Galloping Ghost
March 2nd, 2008, 06:21 PM
DENVER BRONCOS:
CB - Champ Bailey (Bump Master, Speed Burner, Coverage Bonus, Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Brandon Marshall (Soft Hands, Breakaway Burst, Strength Bonus, Possession Receiver, Tough in the Middle)
ILB - D.J. Williams (Run Coverage, Quick Feet)
QB - Jay Cutler (Scrambler, Rocket Arm)
HB - Travis Henry (Branching Tackles, Workhorse)
DE - Elvis Dumervil (Pass Rush Bonus)
CB - Dre Bly (Ball Hawk)
SS - John Lynch (Leadership)
WR - Brandon Stokley (Soft Hands)
TE - Tony Scheffler (Soft Hands)
OLB - Nate Webster (Run Coverage)
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 06:21 PM
Chargers:
GOLD
LT - Speed Burner, BT, Soft Hands, BAB, Possession Receiver
Jamal Williams - Strength Bonus, Club, Run Coverage, Run Reader, Bull Rush
SILVER
Philip Rivers Quick Release, Tough as Nails
Shawne Merriman - Quick Feet, Closing Speed
Antonio Gates - Route God, Tough in the Middle
I don't think that CAP QBs can get Tough as Nails anymore after the patch.
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 06:22 PM
HB Fred Taylor (Breakaway Burst, Quick Feet, Finesse, Strength, BT)
DT John Henderson (Run Coverage, Strength, Bull Rush, Leadership, Rip)
QB David Garrard (Leadership, Rocket Arm)
SS Reggie Nelson (Closing Speed, Coverage)
CB Rashean Mathis (Quick Feet, Closing Speed)
WR Reggie Williams (Soft Hands)
WR Matt Jones (Acrobatic Catches)
OG Vince Manuwai (Quick Feet)
MLB Mike Peterson (Run Coverage)
OLB Daryl Smith (Quick Feet)
FS Sammy Knight (Leadership)
Hey, what do ya know? My team for season 2! :D
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 06:23 PM
Hey, what do ya know? My team for season 2! :D
Yup, just made a few changes :D
Of course I would make it the same as yours, you went 18-0 in the first season!
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 06:25 PM
MANNING FOR ADRIAN PETERSON CAN I GIVE HIM CUT BACK INSTEAD OF SPEEDBURNER
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 06:27 PM
Yup, just made a few changes :D
Of course I would make it the same as yours, you went 18-0 in the first season!
I don't know if you're man enough to handle such a team... you see how the warm up before games.
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 06:30 PM
MANNING FOR ADRIAN PETERSON CAN I GIVE HIM CUT BACK INSTEAD OF SPEEDBURNER
YES BECAUSE CUTBACK PROPERLY REFLECTS ADRIAN PETERSON'S RUNNING STYLE
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 06:30 PM
I don't think anyone's man enough to handle this!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iAN9qsRGQts&feature=related
Tell22
March 2nd, 2008, 06:30 PM
ill take the niners
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 06:31 PM
Got it Tell, and nice team Galloping Ghost.
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 06:33 PM
would dawkins be considered a gold?
As the cool kids say, "fasho"
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 06:40 PM
hey does anyone want to play a game with their nfl team?
OUsooners1828
March 2nd, 2008, 06:51 PM
GOLD
ILB London Fletcher - Run Coverage, Leadership, Closing Speed
HB Clinton Portis - Breakaway, Branching Tackles, Finesse and Power
SILVER
WR Santana Moss - Speed Burner, Soft Hands
QB Jason Campbell - Laser arm, ???
TE Chris Cooley - Route God, Soft Hands
BRONZE
DE Andre Carter - Sack Master
WR Antwaan Randle El - Possession Receiver
CB Fred Smoot - Coverage Bonus
OLB Marcus Washington - Run Coverage
CB Shawn Springs - Ball Hawk
SS LaRon Landry - Closing Speed
Little rough draft what do you think?
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 06:52 PM
Switch Campbell and Andre Carter.
Carter had like 10.5 sacks this year, and Campbell is good, but not quite a silver yet
OUsooners1828
March 2nd, 2008, 07:02 PM
Is Campbell an acceptable silver though, cause im a big fan of his and would like a good QB to throw to these great receiving threats.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 07:04 PM
I dunno, youd have to ask manning?
He has a rocket of an arm too (but overthrows somtimes), so maybe rocket arm?
awesome
March 2nd, 2008, 07:14 PM
GOLD
ILB London Fletcher - Run Coverage, Leadership, Closing Speed
HB Clinton Portis - Breakaway, Branching Tackles, Finesse and Power
SILVER
WR Santana Moss - Speed Burner, Soft Hands
QB Jason Campbell - Laser arm, ???
TE Chris Cooley - Route God, Soft Hands
BRONZE
DE Andre Carter - Sack Master
WR Antwaan Randle El - Possession Receiver
CB Fred Smoot - Coverage Bonus
OLB Marcus Washington - Run Coverage
CB Shawn Springs - Ball Hawk
SS LaRon Landry - Closing Speed
Little rough draft what do you think?
I go to all the Skins games, so I think I can give a fair assessment.
1)Santana Moss is not a silver, and giving him soft hands is like giving Tom Brady speed burner. He has bricks for hands. He should be a bronze with speed burner.
2)Jason Campbell is a bronze with rocket arm, and cannot be a silver or have laser.
3)Andre Carter should be a bronze with Sack Master and Pass Rush.
4)Fred Smoot should have speed burner, not coverage.
5)You could move Landry up to Silver with Closing Speed and either Footsteps or Run Coverage.
awesome
March 2nd, 2008, 07:18 PM
Here are my two teams I am considering:
Gold-
Aaron Kampman-Club, Closing Speed, Strength, Pass Rush, Sack Master
Al Harris-Bump Master, Speed, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk, Coverage
Silver-
Brett Favre-Rocket, Leadership
Ryan Grant-Speed, Finesse
Greg Jennings-Route God, Speed
Bronze-
Charles Woodson-Coverage
Donald Driver-Hands
James Jones-Speed
AJ Hawk-Run Coverage
Donald Lee-Possession
Atari Bigby-Ball Hawk
Gold-
Brett Favre-Rocket, Leadership, Quick Release, Scrambler, Clutch
Greg Jennings-Speed, Deep Threat, Route God, Breakaway, Hands
Silver-
Al Harris-Bump Master, Coverage
Charles Woodson-Coverage, Speed
AJ Hawk-Run Coverage, Run Reader
Bronze-
Ryan Grant-Speed
Aaron Kampman-Sack Master
Everything else is the same as the other team
xManning1018x
March 2nd, 2008, 07:18 PM
Is Campbell an acceptable silver though, cause im a big fan of his and would like a good QB to throw to these great receiving threats.
He fumbled 13 times, and had a sub 80 passer rating... I think that there are more qualified silvers on your team. If you want a solid QB, get Campball @ rocket arm, and an OL with stonewall.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 07:20 PM
Here are my two teams I am considering:
Gold-
Aaron Kampman-Club, Closing Speed, Strength, Pass Rush, Sack Master
Al Harris-Bump Master, Speed, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk, Coverage
Silver-
Brett Favre-Rocket, Leadership
Ryan Grant-Speed, Finesse
Greg Jennings-Route God, Speed
Bronze-
Charles Woodson-Coverage
Donald Driver-Hands
James Jones-Speed
AJ Hawk-Run Coverage
Donald Lee-Possession
Atari Bigby-Ball Hawk
Gold-
Brett Favre-Rocket, Leadership, Quick Release, Scrambler, Clutch
Greg Jennings-Speed, Deep Threat, Route God, Breakaway, Hands
Silver-
Al Harris-Bump Master, Coverage
Charles Woodson-Coverage, Speed
AJ Hawk-Run Coverage, Run Reader
Bronze-
Ryan Grant-Speed
Aaron Kampman-Sack Master
Everything else is the same as the other team
Greg Jennings needs quick feet. Hes soo agile, and thats why he runs good routes and is so good after the catch.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 07:22 PM
And as for your Packers, I'd do a combo.
One gold offensive player, one gold defensive player.
Gold
Favre
Kampman
Silver
Harris
Jennings
Grant/Bigby/Hawk
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 07:24 PM
y r u guys putting jennings above driver? driver is the #1 receiver on the team
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 07:25 PM
Oh, I forgot.
Jennings needs clutch if you make him a gold.
awesome
March 2nd, 2008, 07:39 PM
I'll play a couple games tommorow with both teams then decide.
The Truth 808
March 2nd, 2008, 07:42 PM
i have to pull out of this league because im in two already and school volleyball is going to be starting so i dont think that i will be able to do all three. Im sorry notify me though when there is an XFL season 4 so i can play. thanks and sorry.
M CARDOSO1
March 2nd, 2008, 07:43 PM
a pretty good packer team is
gold
brett favre
aaron kampman
silver
al harris
donald driver
greg jennings
bronze
nick barnett
nick collins
atari bigby
charles woodson
ryan grant
james jones/donald lee
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 07:45 PM
^^^ Yeah, that looks really, really good.
You should try that, awesome.
awesome
March 2nd, 2008, 07:48 PM
Hmmm I may.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 07:50 PM
Solid D and an explosive O.
illmatic32
March 2nd, 2008, 07:51 PM
I putting my money on LSU..lol...Go get em...
OUsooners1828
March 2nd, 2008, 07:51 PM
if i made the falcons could michael turner be a silver? I realize on the chargers he may only get a bronze probly, but what about the falcons
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 07:52 PM
Yeah, IMO, hed definitely be at least a silver on the Falcons. Make Jerious Norwood too!
It would be sweet to have like Turner and Norwood at silver.
OUsooners1828
March 2nd, 2008, 07:58 PM
i was thinking something like this
Gold
Deangelo Hall
Jerious Norwood
Silver
Keith Brooking
john abraham
Michael Turner
bronze
Roddy white
Lawyer Milloy
Byron Leftwich
Michael Boley
Chris Crocker
i have no clue who else
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 08:01 PM
Dang good running game!
Jerious Norwood: Speed, Breakaway, Cutback, Quick Feet,
OUsooners1828
March 2nd, 2008, 08:04 PM
yea i'll finish tomorrow when i get home, Falcons actually look like they'd be fun.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 2nd, 2008, 08:05 PM
IMO, just go with a generic QB and run like every down...lol...
nflhitman
March 2nd, 2008, 08:23 PM
I go to all the Skins games, so I think I can give a fair assessment.
1)Santana Moss is not a silver, and giving him soft hands is like giving Tom Brady speed burner. He has bricks for hands. He should be a bronze with speed burner.
2)Jason Campbell is a bronze with rocket arm, and cannot be a silver or have laser.
3)Andre Carter should be a bronze with Sack Master and Pass Rush.
4)Fred Smoot should have speed burner, not coverage.
5)You could move Landry up to Silver with Closing Speed and either Footsteps or Run Coverage.
Im not a Skins fan but I do watch a lot of football and the NFL Network. When smoot was coming out of college the only reason he didn't go higher in the draft was because of his lack of speed. Maybe quick feet.
OUsooners1828
March 2nd, 2008, 08:26 PM
Gold
Deangelo Hall CB (coverage, speed, ball hawk)
Michael Turner HB (speed burner, BT)
Silver
Keith Brooking ILB (run coverage, wrap up)
john abraham DE (pass rush, sack master)
Jerious Norwood HB (speed, breakaway)
bronze
Roddy white WR (quick feet)
Lawyer Milloy SS (run coverage)
Byron Leftwich QB (rocket arm)
Michael Boley OLB (closing speed)
Chris Crocker FS (ball hawk)
Ovie Mughelli FB (bulldozer)
My new team :)
Tell22
March 2nd, 2008, 08:28 PM
only problem is that Hall maight be traded because he doesnt want to play for ATL no more
ferozkq
March 2nd, 2008, 11:52 PM
I don't think michael turner is a speed burner. 2nd damn looking at those rosters you will have one wr and 2 hb's.
just a quick note, alge crumpler has gone to the titans.
eckology
March 3rd, 2008, 09:28 AM
Leftwich has been cut also...and Turner is one of the fastest backs in the league hence the nickname Michael "Burner" Turner.
Also, Smoot has great hands. He's the alltime interception leader in Skins Franchise history. Just something to keep in mind...
MrCheese77
March 3rd, 2008, 12:07 PM
How is Michael Turner a backup on one team then a gold on another team? yeah he'll be the starter but how does that make him a gold already?
MrCheese77
March 3rd, 2008, 01:14 PM
Yeah his nickname is the Burner but I tried to convince Manning of it in another thread that he deserved Speed Burner but he said no to me when I suggested it so it is unlikely that it will be allowed.
OUsooners1828
March 3rd, 2008, 04:02 PM
Gold
Deangelo Hall CB (coverage, speed, ball hawk)
Michael Turner HB (speed burner, BT, P&F)
Silver
Keith Brooking ILB (run coverage, wrap up)
John abraham DE (pass rush, sack master)
Michael Turner HB (breakaway, BT)
bronze
Roddy white WR (quick feet)
Lawyer Milloy SS (run coverage)
Joey Harrington QB (laser arm)
Michael Boley OLB (closing speed)
Chris Crocker FS (ball hawk)
Ovie Mughelli FB (bulldozer)
MrCheese77
March 3rd, 2008, 04:34 PM
Yeah I know but I'm just saying it doesn't seem like that vaults him to a gold cause he went to a bad team where there are still better gold players. In the playoffs he didn't even have over 100 yds in a game or a TD when filling in for LT in the 3 postseason games. I would say quick feet and breakaway speed but not speed burner cause it doesn't make sense how you would be allowed to have t if I wasn't allowed when I had already made a case for it awhile ago. Just saying.
ferozkq
March 3rd, 2008, 08:53 PM
\i don't know bro, i saw turner in the playoffs and they he ran, he was no where close to running fast, he looked slow. speed burner is someone like westbrook, lt, parker i doubt he's anywhere close to those guys.
OUsooners1828
March 3rd, 2008, 09:02 PM
ok i'll switch him with norwood and switch speed burner for breakaway burst
soonersam
March 4th, 2008, 07:48 AM
I feel sorry for the guy with the Pack, have fun with Aaron Rodgers.
MrCheese77
March 4th, 2008, 12:20 PM
Yeah I think it was awesome who wanted the Pack and now he's gotta use a bronze qb instead of a gold what a bummer
MrCheese77
March 4th, 2008, 12:39 PM
Sorry Manning but Jamal Williams is not a gold tier player and I highly doubt that Rivers is a Silver tier player especially w/ quick release since you complained about it so much when I had it it would be quite hypocritical to give it to him when you have the team and as a silver is very questionable. He can't be a silver because he had better numbers last year than this year and when I had him on my team he had to be a bronze so thats what he'll have to be on your team.
MrCheese77
March 4th, 2008, 12:44 PM
For Chargers Gold I'd say these are acceptable:
Gates, LT, Merriman, Cromartie
Tell22
March 4th, 2008, 01:30 PM
when is the playoffs going to start...ive probablty only played 1 game in the last 2 weeks and that was a loss to soonersam just so we could end the game b/c of lag
MrCheese77
March 4th, 2008, 01:33 PM
I'm looking to get most if not all of my games done tomorrow since I've been out of town the past few days so if I'm on ur schedule try to hit me up on xbox live tomorrow
Tell22
March 4th, 2008, 01:35 PM
no you arent on it....just Mike Williams (Bears) who hasnt played any game and seen 415(cowboys)
MrCheese77
March 4th, 2008, 01:42 PM
I was just talking in general but I haven't seen Mike Williams and seen in a while
soonersam
March 4th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Did anyone see my little season recap I made sunday night on the other XFL thread?
YEAR OF THE RUNNING BACK
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/09/larryjohnsonrappin.jpg
At the midway point running backs like Larry Johnson (above) are running wild.
Many story lines are abounding in the XFL but the biggest story might be about the many talented running backs that are in the XFL. First there’s the punishing Larry Johnson who is already over 2000 yards and has 26 Touchdowns with 3 games left. He leads a strong Chief team that at times is handicapped but terrible QB play but is still near the top of the league with a 9-4 record.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m129/royce31604/p1_taylor_fred.jpg
But LJ isn’t alone in great running back play with Fred Taylor (above proving to be a dual threat on the ground and in the air with over 23 totals touchdowns and over 1,700 total yards. He’s also not even half way though their season. But a team effort has propelled the defending Jags to a 6-1 record. Unlike last season the Jags aren’t undefeated because the Panthers tripped them thanks to the great play of Star WR Steve Smith. The Panthers are off to a 2-0 start so it’s difficult at this time to project their ending.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/LiLBallout/Adrian_Peterson.jpg
Another great running back resides in Minnesota with Adrian All Day Peterson (above) carrying a poor offensive team to a .500 record while teams are keying on him. Peterson is currently on place for 2,500 yards and 32 touchdowns. But two other teams carry are prime contenders as well.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj16/mustafasayah1/justin_fargas.jpg
The Oakland Raiders have come in like the Autumn Wind to a 6-3 record. Justin “Huggy Bear” Fargas (above) leads the raiders with over a 1,000 yards rushing and 13 touchdowns.
Then the Titans have overcome adversity with the injury to their starting QB, Vince Young but Lendale White has carried the load with 880 yards and 15 touchdowns. The rest of the teams have either not played enough games to factor into the race at this point or are in the giant log jam around the .500 mark.
Some notable stats from those teams are;
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s198/kc_knight3695/chad_johnson.jpg
Bengal’s WR Chad Johnson (above) has already reached the 1030 yard mark for receiving yards and 10 touchdowns.
WR Hines Ward has kept the Steelers a float thanks to 918 receiving yards and 10 touchdowns.
WR Andre Johnson of the Houston Texans, he has recorded 1211 receiving yards and 6 touchdowns for the struggling Texans.
MrCheese77
March 4th, 2008, 01:55 PM
I saw it Sam. Nice work :thumbsup:
Tell22
March 4th, 2008, 01:55 PM
Frank Gore will be on that list nxt season
soonersam
March 4th, 2008, 02:00 PM
Frank Gore will be on that list nxt season
Who knows next season could be the year of the quarterback.
Tell22
March 4th, 2008, 02:04 PM
no Gore is going to crush the numbers put up by LJ
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 02:05 PM
Freddy Taylor will hopefully remain on that list.
OUsooners1828
March 4th, 2008, 02:07 PM
I just got the 3 red lights thing and wont get my xbox back for probaly 3-4 weeks so idk if im gonna be in next season
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 02:08 PM
It might even become the year of the defense!
Champ Bailey, John Henderson, Reggie Nelson, Aaron Kampman, Patrick Willis, etc.
soonersam
March 4th, 2008, 02:09 PM
no Gore is going to crush the numbers put up by LJ
Whats Gore's abilities?
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 02:09 PM
I just got the 3 red lights thing and wont get my xbox back for probaly 3-4 weeks so idk if im gonna be in next season
Man, thats a bummer. Sorry man. :(
Hope you get it resolved.
Tell22
March 4th, 2008, 02:14 PM
Branching tackles, workhorse, soft hands, cutback ability, quick feet....
soonersam
March 4th, 2008, 02:17 PM
Yea I see why BT and workhorse is sick. I hope I don't have to play you more then once with my little defense.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 02:20 PM
If LJ can run for 2000+ yards with only BT & Workhorse, then imagine what Gore can do with 3 more abilities!
Tell22
March 4th, 2008, 02:26 PM
The only reason why LJ has the yards is because Gold TE Tony Gonzalez has leadership which makes the O-Line better + you have to watch for him in the passing game......When Tony was hurt I had some rough games but only one was under 100 yards and that was against Ranger
Tell22
March 4th, 2008, 02:28 PM
I have Travis Henry in the NSL with Branching tackles and workhorse and he has only around 1350 yards and 17-19 TD's (can't remember...not at home)
xManning1018x
March 4th, 2008, 04:02 PM
Sorry Manning but Jamal Williams is not a gold tier player and I highly doubt that Rivers is a Silver tier player especially w/ quick release since you complained about it so much when I had it it would be quite hypocritical to give it to him when you have the team and as a silver is very questionable. He can't be a silver because he had better numbers last year than this year and when I had him on my team he had to be a bronze so thats what he'll have to be on your team.
Rivers is a silver. I don't have to make him a bronze, he had a solid year.
I'm sorry if I told you that he didn't have a quick release, Tpat validated him as so and he knows what he's talking about. He lists about 4 or 5 quick release QBs. Better to admit that I was wrong about it and apologize than to be stubborn and incorrect.
Jamal is surely a gold option on the chargers. He's a better player than Cromartie if anything.
MrCheese77
March 4th, 2008, 04:15 PM
I ha to make him a bronze when he was on my team and he had better stats than this yr so what allows you to make him a silver? And Jamal is not a gold man he had 32 tackles total and 1 FF that does not warrant gold.
awesome
March 4th, 2008, 04:17 PM
Manning, there is no way that Rivers is a silver. The Chargers fans were screaming for his head until around week 12.
xManning1018x
March 4th, 2008, 04:27 PM
I ha to make him a bronze when he was on my team and he had better stats than this yr so what allows you to make him a silver? And Jamal is not a gold man he had 32 tackles total and 1 FF that does not warrant gold.
I certainly didn't force you to make him a bronze, especially after his pro bowl selection.
Jamal had 32 solo tackles, one FF.
Henderson has 28, 2 sacks, 1 FF - he's a gold.
Tommie Harris had 31, 8 sacks - he's a gold.
So Jamal isn't a pass rusher. He's a better run stuffer, which is why he's a gold w/o pass rush or sack master. Have you watched the Chargers play? He stuffs holes, draws double teams, and has a powerful reach tackle. He's easily a top 5 DT.
MrCheese77
March 4th, 2008, 04:29 PM
Exactly. His numbers were better the year before. Jamal had 32 solo tackles and 1 FF. By that logic Kris Jenkins could have been a gold on my team since he had 30 solo tackles and 2.5 sacks
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 04:29 PM
Jamal Williams is definitely a gold. Stats don't always tell how good a player is, especially for 3-4 D-linemen. Their job is to take up the O-line for the LBs to run free. I can definitely say that Jamal did that, and did it amazingly well (except against the Vikings O-line).
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Vince Wilfork IMO is very underrated too, and is also a reason why the Pats linebackers play that well.
xManning1018x
March 4th, 2008, 04:31 PM
Manning, there is no way that Rivers is a silver. The Chargers fans were screaming for his head until around week 12.
Did that stop him from 3,152 yards, 21 TDs, and 60% completion pct? Did that stop him from leading the league in post season passing yards, even though they didn't make the superbowl?
awesome
March 4th, 2008, 04:34 PM
21 TDs in this day and age is really nothing, and with that O-line+Gates+Chambers+LT+Vincent Jackson, I could throw for 3,152 yards. He is a bronze.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 04:38 PM
Whatever tier Manning makes Rivers, you can be sure that he will whoop you with him.
xManning1018x
March 4th, 2008, 04:38 PM
21 TDs puts him at # 12 for all QBs
Are you telling me Garrard, with 18 TDs, is below "nothing"? Explain to me how 21 TDs is nothing.
awesome
March 4th, 2008, 04:44 PM
Who did Garrard have to throw to? If he was swapped with Rivers he would have put up twice the numbers. If Rivers was on the Jaguars, he would struggle.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 04:44 PM
Garrard is definitely a silver though, cause he threw 18TDs and only 3INTS
MrCheese77
March 4th, 2008, 04:49 PM
Well if Williams is a gold then thats gonna open the floodgates for many other people to make cases for golds that shouldn't be. Rivers can't be a silver, at least be reasonable here. Him at a silver is stretching it greatly. He has a quick release and thats pretty much it.
305nugga
March 4th, 2008, 04:51 PM
GT:da305kid
xManning1018x
March 4th, 2008, 04:51 PM
I'm pretty sure that throwing 21 TDs while sharing the ball with the most talented backfield in the NFL is nothing to scoff at. Rivers is a silver just like Eli and Big Ben are silvers. Young and talented.
305nugga
March 4th, 2008, 04:54 PM
da305kid
id like the Cowboys if possible and if room
awesome
March 4th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Well its 2 against 1...
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 04:57 PM
Ok, Jamal Williams can definitely be a gold!
Shaun Smith, a Cleveland Browns DT had much better stats than Jamal Williams, so you are telling me that hes better than Williams?
Stats don't mean crap for 3-4 D-linemen. Why do you think the Chargers ILBs played well even though they were the third and fourth stringers last season? Why do you think Merriman and Philips get so much pressure? Its cause Jamal demands double and triple teams, and allows the LBs to roam free.
xManning1018x
March 4th, 2008, 04:58 PM
Well if Williams is a gold then thats gonna open the floodgates for many other people to make cases for golds that shouldn't be. Rivers can't be a silver, at least be reasonable here. Him at a silver is stretching it greatly. He has a quick release and thats pretty much it.
Sorry I'm being unreasonable by wanting my top 5 DT to be gold :rolleyes:
Also any way you slice it, Rivers is a top 11 or 12 QB. That's a silver in my book.
soonersam
March 4th, 2008, 05:08 PM
Jamal Williams went to Oklahoma State, so therefor he can't be a gold DT.
ferozkq
March 4th, 2008, 05:12 PM
phillip rivers isn't a silver period. 21 TD's and 15 INT's. he's a bronze. You want to go with stats we are going by stats manning. Those are your own words. You want to talk about percentage 60.2 that puts him at 23rd for best percentage. You put his qb rating a mere 82.4. you say thats a silver that puts him at 18th in the league. Especially with a core of offensive players like that. Then ontop of that you look back at his TD/INT ratio that comes to every TD he scores he gets 1 pick the total ratio of it being 1.4.
Jamal Williams a gold you got to be kidding me. he had 0 sacks. Don't even bring merriman in this, merriman usually gets most of his tackles from the outside. As far as I know merriman gets all of his sacks from the outsides. Jamal Williams is a gold player "career wise" but as you said yourself we're going by season stats and performance and well he's all the way at the bottom with 0 sacks. I'm excluding the fact tackles cause dline don't get much tackles anyways. But he didn't do anything great at all to make him a gold player. I'd say he's a silver.
xManning1018x
March 4th, 2008, 05:26 PM
phillip rivers isn't a silver period. 21 TD's and 15 INT's. he's a bronze. You want to go with stats we are going by stats manning. Those are your own words. You want to talk about percentage 60.2 that puts him at 23rd for best percentage. You put his qb rating a mere 82.4. you say thats a silver that puts him at 18th in the league. Especially with a core of offensive players like that. Then ontop of that you look back at his TD/INT ratio that comes to every TD he scores he gets 1 pick the total ratio of it being 1.4.
Jamal Williams a gold you got to be kidding me. he had 0 sacks. Don't even bring merriman in this, merriman usually gets most of his tackles from the outside. As far as I know merriman gets all of his sacks from the outsides. Jamal Williams is a gold player "career wise" but as you said yourself we're going by season stats and performance and well he's all the way at the bottom with 0 sacks. I'm excluding the fact tackles cause dline don't get much tackles anyways. But he didn't do anything great at all to make him a gold player. I'd say he's a silver.
...Are you kidding me? When did I say that stats are the only factor and that's what I'm using for team validation? In fact, I'm the one who thinks Cromartie isn't a gold despite his 10 interceptions. I'm the one who thinks Williams is a gold, despite his "poor numbers". He's a NT in a 3-4 scheme. He's not expected to get sacks. He stuffs the run, and does it very, very well.
awesome
March 4th, 2008, 05:29 PM
Anyone up for a game with their new team?
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 05:34 PM
awesome, are you bummed that you can't use Brett Favre anymore?
Also, I'm on manning's side, so its 2v2
awesome
March 4th, 2008, 05:39 PM
I'll be ok I think.
awesome
March 4th, 2008, 05:40 PM
Well its me, cheese and feroz so 3v2.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 05:41 PM
So now are you going to use Kampman and Jennings or Kampman and Harris or Harris and Jennings?
ferozkq
March 4th, 2008, 05:49 PM
I agree he is a gold, but not for this season.
xManning1018x
March 4th, 2008, 05:51 PM
Alright then, give me a list of possible gold/silver players for the Chargers if you disagree with mine.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 05:59 PM
Some quotes about Jamal Williams:
Donnie Edwards (Last year)
"When he's on his game, no one can block him," Edwards said. "He's the anchor of our defense. When he's on, our whole defense is on."
Merriman:
"I do get double teams and things like that, but every play you can't double-team me because you've got to double-team Jamal."
ferozkq
March 4th, 2008, 06:04 PM
gold: LT, Gates, Cromartie and Merriman
Silver: Jamal Williams, Phillips, maybe cooper, and jammer
xManning1018x
March 4th, 2008, 06:04 PM
"KUBAN KAOS is my hero!!!"
Is that still true?
MrCheese77
March 4th, 2008, 06:40 PM
My list of golds is the same as ferozkq, Silvers you can go with many different ppl except for Rivers.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 07:18 PM
"KUBAN KAOS is my hero!!!"
Is that still true?
Yeah, cause he gave up his team.
Is there something wrong with that? It was kinda random
Tell22
March 4th, 2008, 07:34 PM
I live in Jacksonville....and its Duval....not Duvall
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 07:36 PM
Oops, I made a boboo
Tell22
March 4th, 2008, 07:46 PM
Manning......if you want to make Williams a Gold then do it because he is clearly better than Shaun Rogers.......I already know what you are going to do (give him leadership)
xManning1018x
March 4th, 2008, 08:19 PM
Manning......if you want to make Williams a Gold then do it because he is clearly better than Shaun Rogers.......I already know what you are going to do (give him leadership)
I wasn't going to - NFLHitman gave me the abilities for Williams.
xManning1018x
March 4th, 2008, 08:28 PM
Strength Bonus, Club, Run Coverage, Run Reader, Bull Rush
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 4th, 2008, 08:41 PM
Does run reader actually do anything for DTs?
If I were you, I'd switch one ability for reach tackle.
MrCheese77
March 4th, 2008, 08:52 PM
He's not a gold
twilight313
March 5th, 2008, 05:53 AM
Hey is there any room for me..I been wanting to join a APF league for awhile..so if so let me kno
Smook23
March 5th, 2008, 12:37 PM
ure ok....whats ure gt? and rating
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 5th, 2008, 12:38 PM
What up smook?
xManning1018x
March 5th, 2008, 02:27 PM
Possible new team build (with 3-4/3-3 Defensive scheme)
GOLD
LT
Cromartie
SILVER
Gates
Jammer
Hart - 68 solo tackles, 5 ints (second among all SS)
Merriman
MrCheese77
March 5th, 2008, 04:06 PM
Whats the list of teams taken by everyone?
xManning1018x
March 6th, 2008, 03:22 PM
I'm liking the 3-3 defense! Just throwing that out there :)
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 6th, 2008, 03:59 PM
I just don't understand defenses in this game.
I've played people who use the 3-3 and 3-2, and sucessfully stop my power running game. (Not in this league)
I just don't get it, its like the 3-3 and 3-2 stop the run better than the 3-4? :confused:
I'm just a lowly noob i guess :o
OUsooners1828
March 6th, 2008, 06:25 PM
well my 360 miraculously started working a couple of min. ago so is my falcons team alright manning?
Gold
Deangelo Hall CB (coverage, speed, ball hawk)
Jerious Norwood HB (speed burner, quick feet, cutback)
Silver
Keith Brooking ILB (run coverage, wrap up)
John abraham DE (pass rush, sack master)
Michael Turner HB (breakaway, BT)
bronze
Roddy white WR (quick feet)
Lawyer Milloy SS (run coverage)
Chris Redman QB (pocket presence)
Michael Boley OLB (closing speed)
Chris Crocker FS (ball hawk)
Ovie Mughelli FB (bulldozer)
awesome
March 6th, 2008, 07:28 PM
Jerious Norwoods no way in hell deserves Finesse and Power or Branching Tackles. He should have three of the following:speed, quick, breakaway, cutback, or finesse. And Deangelo Hall really isn't that great at covering, he can just run like blazes.
awesome
March 6th, 2008, 07:31 PM
I think this will be my final team
Aaron Kampman-Closing Speed, Sack Master, Pass Rush, Strength, Club
Al Harris-Coverage, Bump Master, Ball Hawk, Speed, Closing Speed
Ryan Grant-Speed, Branching Tackles
Nick Barnett-Run Coverage, Closing Speed
Greg Jennings-Speed, Route God
Charles Woodson-Coverage
James Jones-Speed
Aaron Rodgers-Laser
Donald Driver-Speed
Donald Lee-Possession
Atari Bigby-Ball Hawk
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 6th, 2008, 07:34 PM
Al Harris is not a speed burner, speed is one of his weaknesses. IMO, you should replace speed with strength.
M CARDOSO1
March 6th, 2008, 07:35 PM
awesome i dont want to dis your team but why do u have greg jennings a silver, but donalds a bronze when donald is the number 1 reciever.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 6th, 2008, 07:37 PM
Also, are Donald Driver and James Jones really speed burners? Are they among the fastest WRs in the league?
I think that quick feet or possession reciever or finesse would suit both of them better.
xManning1018x
March 6th, 2008, 07:41 PM
I'm not officially validating teams until the playoffs begin in season 2, but feel free to rip each other's teams apart.
The Truth 808
March 6th, 2008, 07:48 PM
i said i couldnt be in this one
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 6th, 2008, 08:04 PM
James Jones lack of speed:
http://gnb.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=8&c=1&nid=3121419
But hes "quick in all aspects of his game" and is great after the catch. So thats why quick feet or possession would work.
Tell22
March 6th, 2008, 08:43 PM
so when are the playoffs going to start??
xRaider_Nationx
March 6th, 2008, 10:31 PM
i need some help with my team with our aquisitions of late so feel free to post a raiders team for me to work off of. Oak added Javon Walker (overpaid), Gibril Wilson (overpaid), and resigned tommie kelly (WTF Al Davis?). lost warren sapp, jerry porter (thank God) and some others im forgetting.
MrCheese77
March 7th, 2008, 12:30 AM
You could make Walker a silver I think cause he had 230 yds on 20 catches in the first 3 games of the season but then he got injured from week 4-11 and when he came back they didn't use him much since Brandon Marshall had broken out by then.
awesome
March 7th, 2008, 04:00 AM
Did you see Driver completely burn all the Giants d backs in that playoff game even when they had perfect angles? And James Jones was the fastest player on the Packers
xManning1018x
March 8th, 2008, 09:49 AM
Anyone up for a game for season 2?
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 8th, 2008, 10:12 AM
^^^ Edit: "Anyone up for a beating for season 2?"
MikeV5521
March 8th, 2008, 10:45 AM
I'm looking for a leauge.. I just got back into the game and I am very Sim with a rating of 80% with like 60 ratings
Tell22
March 8th, 2008, 10:49 AM
Mike you can take my spot............
MikeV5521
March 8th, 2008, 10:57 AM
I can take spots if the league already started?
Tell22
March 8th, 2008, 11:04 AM
league didnt start yet......season 2 is about to go into playoffs
MikeV5521
March 8th, 2008, 12:23 PM
Ok I am in, I can take tell22's spot
My feedback is 80%
What teams are available? I will post a team and players when i know.
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 9th, 2008, 10:42 AM
I wanna post my Fred Taylor again so that everyone is ready for his wrath!
Breakaway Burst: Had tons of long runs this season (76, 80, 62, 50)
Quick Feet: Self-explanatory
Finesse: Self-explanatory
Strength: "Get his legs, hes mo-fudging too strong" - Champ Bailey
BT: self-explanatory
Go to NFL.com and watch his highlites
soonersam
March 9th, 2008, 10:50 AM
Can I of the admins plese take control and tell us whats happnening?
What teams are open, when the playoffs start, etc?
xManning1018x
March 9th, 2008, 11:03 AM
Sorry I haven't been here in a while, two of my friends died in a car accident monday.
I'll get working on the teams available. I think the open teams are:
Eagles, Patriots, Bengals, Texans, Titans, Bills, Chiefs, Bears, Panthers, Redskins, Rams, Cardinals.
But I may be wrong. Correct me if you find anything off.
xManning1018x
March 9th, 2008, 11:08 AM
Playoffs will start next weekend, so get your games in. Wanna run one now soonersam?
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 9th, 2008, 11:10 AM
Sorry I haven't been here in a while, two of my friends died in a car accident monday.
I'll get working on the teams available. I think the open teams are:
Eagles, Patriots, Bengals, Texans, Titans, Bills, Chiefs, Bears, Panthers, Redskins, Rams, Cardinals.
But I may be wrong. Correct me if you find anything off.
Thats sad man. Sorry, wish you the best.
soonersam
March 9th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Playoffs will start next weekend, so get your games in. Wanna run one now soonersam?
Thats sucks man, good luck with the deathes, sure lets get my *** whoping over with.
xManning1018x
March 9th, 2008, 11:53 AM
MrCheese, as you know it didn't register our win, and it won't allow me to to give you the win from "manage schedule". How about we play and I'll immediately quit, and hopefully it will give you the win.
xManning1018x
March 9th, 2008, 11:55 AM
Thats sad man. Sorry, wish you the best.
Thanks man. Wanna play a league game? I'm not sure if we have any left but it can't hurt to check.
xManning1018x
March 9th, 2008, 12:05 PM
Games left:
NY KIA
NFLHitman
Seen
someone else that i forgot
MikeV5521
March 9th, 2008, 12:26 PM
I'll take eagles
LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS
March 9th, 2008, 01:20 PM
Hey guys, sorry I can't play any games this weekend. I have 2 HUGE tests coming up, and my parents want me to concentrate my weekend on them (I'm still posting on the forums though...hehe).
ferozkq
March 9th, 2008, 04:03 PM
eagles are taken already by me, cards are also taken by my brother DirtyPeewiz
MikeV5521
March 9th, 2008, 04:07 PM
Ok, if Pats aren't taking I will take them.
MrCheese77
March 10th, 2008, 01:13 PM
MrCheese, as you know it didn't register our win, and it won't allow me to to give you the win from "manage schedule". How about we play and I'll immediately quit, and hopefully it will give you the win.
all right well let me know when cause I'll probably be on tomorrow
Smook23
March 10th, 2008, 01:31 PM
guys....sorry i havent been on in a while was up with everything
Bowdown
March 10th, 2008, 01:57 PM
I'll take the Dolphins if they are available.
soonersam
March 10th, 2008, 05:17 PM
I'll take the Dolphins if they are available.
Sorry taken
MikeV5521
March 10th, 2008, 06:05 PM
Are pats taking? If not I can make them now
soonersam
March 10th, 2008, 06:36 PM
Are pats taking? If not I can make them now
Take them, they're open.
MikeV5521
March 10th, 2008, 07:36 PM
ok I got pats