Goodbye Brett Favre [Archive]

walliworld

March 4th, 2008, 09:55 AM

He will be missed, his personality made him even better than average hall of famer. At least we don't have to hear "is he retiring this year?" ALL off-season.

I created a CAP for him once,

Rocket Arm
Clutch
Scrambler
And I would add Tough as Nails and Leadership if I could give him 5

Kdrontle

March 4th, 2008, 09:57 AM

I'd throw Leadership on top of that, Numbski (his charisma! :))

Also maybe finesse and power and break away burst...... kidding

Numbski

March 4th, 2008, 10:03 AM

I think you're right about leadership. Favre isn't a scrambler so much as he is elusive. He's not looking to run the ball, he just evades sacks VERY well. Then again, he's good at throwing on the run...which the Scrambler ability gives. Dunno. I think this game lets pretty much ANY Gold QB throw on the run, so QB Evade is more appropriate.

So:

Tough as Nails
Rocket Arm
QB Evade
Clutch
Leadership

You think?

brownster14

March 4th, 2008, 10:05 AM

Has anyone got any CAPS n Ratings for Brett..I kno hes a gold..

QB Brett Favre- Rocket Arm, Laser Arm, Durability Bonus, Clutch, Leadership Bonus

courtesy of NFLHitman

Numbski

March 4th, 2008, 10:09 AM

Ah - now this raises some other questions. I don't think Laser Arm fits. I'm not saying he's inaccurate, I just mean that it's not his trademark. He's known for his arm strength, not squeezing the ball into tight spots (that's more of a Marc Bulger/Kurt Warner (y2k) type thing).

Durability Bonus instead of Tough as Nails....how about combined with?

Rocket Arm
Tough as Nails
Durability Bonus
Clutch
Leadership

You lose QB Evade though. :\ I still contend that Favre isn't a scrambler, just good at evading sacks.

The things you immediately think of when you hear Brett Favre:

He just doesn't get injured, or he keeps playing hurt (Tough as Nails/Durability).
He breaks receivers fingers, or jams them (Rocket Arm).
He's excellent under pressure.

Leadership ability - I have to be fair, I've not followed Favre THAT closely. Does his mere presence make rookies and other young players do better? After this last season I'd say yes, but beyond this last season?

brownster14

March 4th, 2008, 10:17 AM

It would be great if APF picked up Favre for this coming year.....

throw him on the cover......;)

Valdarez

March 4th, 2008, 10:17 AM

Look good Numbski, but I'd probably give him 4th Quarter Comeback over Clutch. Doesn't he hold the record for 4th Quarter Comebacks?

sockcornnoodles

March 4th, 2008, 10:42 AM

Even though Brett was tough as nails, that ability doesn't fit him. That ability is for QBs who didn't care if or how often the pocket collapsed. When Farve's pocket collapsed, he took off running. I'd say:

Durability
Rocket Arm
4th Quarter Comeback
Leadership
Scrambler

Higgus

March 4th, 2008, 10:42 AM

1.) I agree with 4th Qtr comeback over clutch. He was really only clutch that one superbowl season.
2.) Nothing wrong if you give him laser arm. Yes he was inaccurate at times, but it was because he did try to squeeze the ball in there too much.. just decision making was poor at times. When he made the smart throws, he was as accurate as there is.
3.) Quick Release - Can't believe no one's mentioned this. He has a super fast release when he needs to.

Higgus

March 4th, 2008, 10:44 AM

Durability
Rocket Arm
4th Quarter Comeback
Leadership
Scrambler
I agree with these too..

Bottom Line: 5 abilities isn't enough for Brett :thumbsup:

Valdarez

March 4th, 2008, 10:58 AM

I can't think of another QB that exemplifies Leadership more than Favre. He's been the leader in Green Bay for years, for the team and the fans.

Durability - 17 years - started every game - league record
Rocket Arm - One of the hardest throws (broke guys fingers!)
4th Quarter Comeback - Holds League record
Leadership - He's the face of the packers, and exemplifies leadership

Tough as Nails = Tough under pressure, not phased by sacks.
Scrambler = Talented at throwing the ball outside of the pocket.

Which really describes Favre best? I'd have to go with Tough as Nails, not to say he doesn't scramble, but he definitely takes a beating and can still bring his A game.

ulose22

March 4th, 2008, 01:06 PM

It would be great if APF picked up Favre for this coming year.....

throw him on the cover......;)
I was thinking the same thing... Call it Brett Favre Legend Football or something like that and it will probably sell better too

YungFresh

March 4th, 2008, 01:23 PM

Leadership
Rocket Arm
Laser Arm
Pocket Presence
Tough as Nails

Tuboware67

March 4th, 2008, 01:24 PM

Yea I think the most accurately created Brett Favre is:

Rocket Arm
Durability Bonus
Tough As Nails
4th Quarter Comeback
Leadership Bonus

Higgus

March 4th, 2008, 01:24 PM

I was thinking the same thing... Call it Brett Favre Legend Football or something like that and it will probably sell better too
OMG I've been saying this since the game was released. Should've been Jerry Rice 2K8. Now that Favre's no longer in the NFL, scrap the Rice idea. Favre 2K9 would sell at least double APF 2K9 just off the name alone.

One idiot said "I like All-Pro Football"... really?? Well, he's the only one considering the 10,000 copies it sold.

Tuboware67

March 4th, 2008, 01:27 PM

OMG I've been saying this since the game was released. Should've been Jerry Rice 2K8. Now that Favre's no longer in the NFL, scrap the Rice idea. Favre 2K9 would sell at least double APF 2K9 just off the name alone.

One idiot said "I like All-Pro Football"... really?? Well, he's the only one considering the 10,000 copies it sold.

10,000? Maybe for PS3... It sold close to or more than 200,000 for 360, which aint bad at all...

Also, about my Favre CAP earlier, I think if they do sign him for 2k9, he should NOTICEABLY have the strongest arm in the game.

Higgus

March 4th, 2008, 01:32 PM

Rocket Arm
Durability Bonus - True. But what are the chances of injury in 2K8?
Tough As Nails - True. But a Gold QB with 5 attributes doesn't need to get better after sack.
4th Quarter Comeback - True. But only makes him better when losing in the 4th. Why not make him good all the time?
Leadership Bonus
No doubt those are Favre's top 5 attributes. But if you guys really want a CAP who actually PLAYS like Favre did on the field, I highly recommend not picking the "words" that best describe him. See my notes above.

Pick things that will let you come out and straight up sling it:
1.) Rocket arm
2.) Scrambler
3.) Quick Release
4.) Laser arm (I believe Favre was deadly accurate most of the time, when he didn't force things)
5.) Pocket Presence

Favre was great with a 3 step quick release and a 7 step, see nothing and scramble. If you want to actually go online and rock people on the field like favre did, I recommend these.

Higgus

March 4th, 2008, 01:35 PM

10,000? Maybe for PS3... It sold close to or more than 200,000 for 360, which aint bad at all...

Also, about my Favre CAP earlier, I think if they do sign him for 2k9, he should NOTICEABLY have the strongest arm in the game.
Was being sarcastic. I was implying the game did not sell well.

sockcornnoodles

March 4th, 2008, 02:28 PM

My problem with giving Favre Laser Arm is that he holds the record for most INTs thrown ever. It's hard to justify giving him an accuracy ability when his passes ended up in opponents hands more than anyone else's ever did.

LSUTIGERSPHXSUNS

March 4th, 2008, 02:34 PM

Laser Arm means top notch accuracy.
Did Brett have top notch accuracy?

If you were making him as a CAP, then Laser arm = accurate
If 2k put him in next year, then Laser arm = not too accurate

nflhitman

March 4th, 2008, 04:27 PM

You can't give a created QB tough as nails :( I agree about the Laser Arm. I put that because he is better than Marino who has that ability. His attributes should be....

Leadership Bonus
Durability Bonus
Clutch
Rocket Arm
Pocket Presence

In my league though I would replace Durability because I have Injuries off.

illmatic32

March 4th, 2008, 04:45 PM

Thanks for the memories Brett..I think he should be in the next APF..He is proly the BEST QB of all time..he has to be...He broke almost all the records..lol..

Av3ng3d Ryd3r

March 4th, 2008, 06:08 PM

mabye this thread should be saying hello brett favre, because with any luck he could be in apf 2k9.

s38s38s

March 4th, 2008, 06:25 PM

Alright here's my take....

Brett Favre if I made a CAP

Rocket Arm
Clutch (4th QT. Comeback isn't necessary when you have this)
Leadership Bonus
Pocket Presence
Scrambler

Brett Favre as a Legend

Rocket Arm
Leadership Bonus
Tough as Nails
Clutch
Scrambler (see highlights of all the just made up throws he's had over the years)

DarthClem

March 8th, 2008, 05:53 AM

I was thinking the same thing... Call it Brett Favre Legend Football or something like that and it will probably sell better too

That alone would sell a copy for every man, woman, and child in Wisconsin.

awesome

March 8th, 2008, 04:45 PM

They should make a platinum tier, strictly for the 2 best at every position and you only get one on your team and Brett should be in that tier with 7 abilities.

Rocket Arm
Leadership
4th Quarter Comeback
Quick Release
Durability
Scrambler
Tough As Nails

Njake.

March 8th, 2008, 06:23 PM

I have watched Brett Favre for my entire life. He is my all-time favorite player, and as most of you know, the Packers are my favorite team.

Rocket Arm
Leadership
Tough As Nails
4th Quarter Comeback
Scrambler (The Scrambler ability allows you to throw the ball on the run, it doesn't necessarily mean he should be running out of the pocket constantly)