View Full Version : nhl 2k9 vs nhl 09
thafutureiz
June 1st, 2008, 06:01 PM
can we get a better game then nhl 09 this year and do u think this is even possible?
IBBALLIN33
June 1st, 2008, 06:07 PM
na, 09 makes way better animations, and by the way, since when are you a hockey fan, flashy, lol>
KillingEdge
June 1st, 2008, 07:06 PM
it could happen, ea seems to half *** their nhl games, but idk..... If 2k9 is gonna be a whole different game than the other 2k nhl games, i really dont think 2k stands a chance, thats why 2k8 for 360 and ps3 were so bad.... way too much change.
RoadDoggFL
June 1st, 2008, 11:02 PM
Well 2K8 was better than 08 in many ways. Don't see how it's even too unlikely.
More liked by the masses? Don't hold your breath. But the average person doesn't know a damn thing about quality anyway.
Hank
June 2nd, 2008, 05:48 AM
Judging from the press release that 2K9 is being built from the ground up, I'd say 09 has the edge at this point.
That's not a shot at VC or this series, but anytime you start something from scratch it's going to have some 1st-year issues.
Saying that, I'm still very geeked to see what VC can do. The 2K series has felt so stale for the past 3-4 years, that a new start will be welcomed.
And remember, NHL07 was a first-year game and despite some obvious flaws it was a crap load of fun to play.
I'm looking forward to NHL09 as well. I thought 08 and 2K8 both had some excellent qualities, but both had some issues too.
Here's to hoping we can get a fun experience out of both.
KillingEdge
June 2nd, 2008, 09:28 AM
NHL 07 fun?
ok maybe u can say nhl 08 is fun, but 07 might be the worst hockey game i ever played, next to nhl 2005. hockey games arent the same anymore, i liked it when they were simple, now seems like everyone is trying to hard to put all this fancy crap in the game >_<
Hank
June 2nd, 2008, 01:42 PM
NHL 07 fun?
ok maybe u can say nhl 08 is fun, but 07 might be the worst hockey game i ever played, next to nhl 2005. hockey games arent the same anymore, i liked it when they were simple, now seems like everyone is trying to hard to put all this fancy crap in the game >_<
Yup. I never said it was uber-realistic but it was fun.
I loved the controls.
yambag021
June 2nd, 2008, 08:06 PM
07 was TERRIBLE imo. 08 wasnt AS bad, but 2k is def king of the mountain. i want an old 2k2 style game with updated grphics and rosters.... and online franchise...
Hank
June 3rd, 2008, 05:16 AM
07 was TERRIBLE imo. 08 wasnt AS bad, but 2k is def king of the mountain. i want an old 2k2 style game with updated grphics and rosters.... and online franchise...
IMO, 2K3 was the best hockey game they made.
I loved the AI, the puck physics and the goalies (PS2 goalies - COMPLETELY different from the stonewalls in the xbox version).
That game really felt like hockey.
Savoie06
June 3rd, 2008, 08:25 AM
If the guys at Visual Concepts are indeed correctly implementing all the things they have been asking about at 2KHockey.net and the gameplay is similar to what it was,but with smarter AI;I think 2K9 could definately give 09 a run for it's money.I think they would be smart to price it at $30 right away as well.
Hank
June 3rd, 2008, 02:36 PM
I honestly think 2Khockey.net does more negative than good.
You have a handful of fans (that make up maybe .001%) of the buying public demanding some ridiculous things.
For me, if they can clean up the graphics/models, get the presentation to at least NHL2005 standards and simplify the controls, it'll be a great start.
But the CPU AI needs a lot of work and the hitting must be toned down.
I love how in NHL08, not everyone can flatten anyone on the ice. Try to hit Chara while controlling Alex Tanguay and see how you make out.
RoadDoggFL
June 3rd, 2008, 03:04 PM
Well nobody has any idea what VC is and isn't going to deliver on. So let's say that AI is in huge need of improvement, well atmosphere could use a boost, too. So not asking for better atmosphere until they fix the AI could be a mistake because maybe they just won't be able to get the AI where it needs to be for 2K9. Well at least they worked on atmosphere, then 2K10 might have improved AI but it already has the atmosphere down pat from 2K9, rather than us having to wait until 2K11.
Savoie06
June 3rd, 2008, 03:14 PM
Well nobody has any idea what VC is and isn't going to deliver on. So let's say that AI is in huge need of improvement, well atmosphere could use a boost, too. So not asking for better atmosphere until they fix the AI could be a mistake because maybe they just won't be able to get the AI where it needs to be for 2K9. Well at least they worked on atmosphere, then 2K10 might have improved AI but it already has the atmosphere down pat from 2K9, rather than us having to wait until 2K11.
We do have a pretty good idea what they are working on from what We Want The Cup has asked for input on.As I said though,if they at least toned down the checking they can slowly mend the different aspects of the AI year after year.If they take it in stages,similar to what EA has done,they should have an excellent game in about 5 years.A good game in three.Only time will tell though.
Savoie06
June 3rd, 2008, 03:22 PM
I honestly think 2Khockey.net does more negative than good.
You have a handful of fans (that make up maybe .001%) of the buying public demanding some ridiculous things.
For me, if they can clean up the graphics/models, get the presentation to at least NHL2005 standards and simplify the controls, it'll be a great start.
But the CPU AI needs a lot of work and the hitting must be toned down.
I love how in NHL08, not everyone can flatten anyone on the ice. Try to hit Chara while controlling Alex Tanguay and see how you make out.
While some can be overly critical at 2KHockey.net,alot of them have been putting up with the series since its inception,so I can kind of understand.
Canuck16
June 3rd, 2008, 11:01 PM
I hated 08, and 2k8 wasnt that great either, but better than 08. I dont want 2k to try and copy ea because ea is terrible at making a realistic game.
yambag021
June 4th, 2008, 05:03 PM
umm charge $30??? EVERYTHING that they have being asked of them and then asking them to cut the price in half????? you're nuts....
joker07
June 5th, 2008, 02:17 AM
NHL 08 its HITFEST , 2-3 hits per minuttes , easy scores , easy passes, easy games , unrealistic easy online play , stupid dynasty without atmosphere = FIFA 08 , NBA 08 = EA sports systems for easy players ! I want 2k hard core style , I want same good game as NBA 2k8 on the ICE !!!
MapleLeaf16
June 5th, 2008, 07:22 PM
It'll tell you right now, 09 will be 08 just with 1 extra bonus feature. 2K9 is going to be awesome!!
RoadDoggFL
June 5th, 2008, 08:13 PM
It'll tell you right now, 09 will be 08 just with 1 extra bonus feature. 2K9 is going to be awesome!!
According to crashthenet.ca, EA has a lot of things in store for 09. The people who've seen it are excited.
That being said, 09's not even on my radar. Can't wait for more info about 2K9.
Savoie06
June 7th, 2008, 10:39 PM
umm charge $30??? EVERYTHING that they have being asked of them and then asking them to cut the price in half????? you're nuts....
No,what's nuts is everything that is being asked of them,especially since the game is being completely rebuilt.Since NHL 09 is sure to wow even more people this year than 08 did last year,I think it would be wise of them to sell the game at half price to have some sort of leg up on them.
ArnoFR
June 8th, 2008, 02:44 AM
NHL 2k* are more realistic than NHL 0*.
Personally, I can't play NHL08 more than 20 minutes (PS3)...that really sucks, that goes too fast, it's not real, I really prefer NHL2k8 which has a better gameplay, which is a real simu-game compared to NHL08...
joker07
June 8th, 2008, 06:31 AM
I love NHL 2k8 ONLINE league and offline seasons... I believe that 2k (VC) make not any big mistake with everything change of gameplay 2k8 ! I believe in excellent 2k9 with 2k8 gameplay ! I believe that NHL 2k9 will absolutely different from NHL 09 ! Peace.
Please 2k or VC listen me ! I dont want any "surprise" , I want only NHL and International HOCKEY VIDEO GAME WITH EVERY RULES AND AUTHENTICITY OF THE GAMES ,ARENAS AND PLAYERS . I dont need BE and PRO MODE , I want CREASE RULES when players bodycheck goalies in the crease ... I dont need 6v6 online players , I want online smooth play and online settings pre-game ... I dont need Forsbergs cheats , I want better control of the shooting system and better skill my stick in my hands ... I dont need excellent graphics presentation , I want ice resurfacer (Zamboni) after periods , cameras in the net , coach with assistants on the bench , 4 referees (+1 video judge) , really every penalties on the ice with game misconduct and co.... I WANT COMPLETELY SIMULATION OF HOCKEY GAMES , NOT KINDER SURPRISE !
If you try my game style _ CZLIGA GOLD (Hall of Famer 3x7 min ) , Its best of gameplay online !
yambag021
June 8th, 2008, 09:11 PM
No,what's nuts is everything that is being asked of them,especially since the game is being completely rebuilt.Since NHL 09 is sure to wow even more people this year than 08 did last year,I think it would be wise of them to sell the game at half price to have some sort of leg up on them.
the ONLY wow that came from 08 was "wow, this game is pure junk. guys fly 5 feet to their left or right to make a hip check. then when made, my my practically dies".
ea 6 years ago = great sports games, garbage with every other game
ea now= GREAT non sports games, TERRIBLE sports games....
Savoie06
June 9th, 2008, 06:53 AM
Didn't say 08 appealed to everyone,but it did to most who played a hockey video game.
hockeybacon
June 12th, 2008, 04:43 PM
it wont happen this year as NHL 09 is going to have a be a pro mode(i think its amazing)
Be a pro is basically you create a player and take him through the AHL till he is ready for a call up and get points based on performance to improve your skills
and well 2k games havent beat Ea yet(very close in 07)
Noose#15
June 12th, 2008, 07:47 PM
nhl2k series was the top game till around 2k7/2k8, so bacon I don't know what your talking about. I'm just hoping for realistic goalies, not for everyone on my team to change from an enforcer to a scorer either. I basically put my 2 cents in already, I'm just waiting to see a demo on youtube from 2kbeta guy or on here. Pro mode sounds stupid, I wnat to play a fun game not play an rpg of hockey.
MapleLeaf16
June 12th, 2008, 09:02 PM
Yeah, that 3rd person view in Be A Pro Mode worries me.
joker07
June 14th, 2008, 01:12 AM
nhl2k series was the top game till around 2k7/2k8, I want to play a fun game not play any rpg of hockey.
Yes , I believe in better MVP system in 2k9
ohjtbehaaave
June 14th, 2008, 09:15 AM
I need to know NHL 2K9 has simplified the retarded controls from 2K8 before I even care about it. EA's NHL series is getting so killer NHL 2K is becoming and afterthought. Get the controls fixed 2k!!!! Sports games need SIMPLE controls... not Tekken like crazy combo's. DO IT!!!
ecologo
June 14th, 2008, 09:32 AM
I think it is a game simulator need to have simulation of games
RoadDoggFL
June 14th, 2008, 02:19 PM
I need to know NHL 2K9 has simplified the retarded controls from 2K8 before I even care about it. EA's NHL series is getting so killer NHL 2K is becoming and afterthought. Get the controls fixed 2k!!!! Sports games need SIMPLE controls... not Tekken like crazy combo's. DO IT!!!
Yeah, 2K's trying to make the game easy to pick up and play with as little thinking as possible for you.
With any luck, 2K8's default controls will still be available to those enjoyed them, though.
FSOTG
June 14th, 2008, 02:58 PM
I sure hope they won't change the control for 2K9, I absolutly love it, sure they should keep the old ones for a couple more years maybe, but with some minor adjustment the control should be even better this year.
Gongshow
June 15th, 2008, 02:25 AM
nhl 08 won sports game of the year, well see if 09 can top it. 2k def went backwards sine 2k7, 2k8 was trash hopfully they can get back on track and regain king of the rink once more.
gosharks
June 16th, 2008, 05:12 PM
Others might think different, but I think NHL 09 is going to beat 2K9 this year. However, I'm glad that Visual Concepts took over Kush Games in a chance to make NHL 2K9 better.
Here are some things that I hope won't be on NHL 2K9 that were on NHL 2K8:
Really bad face hair (players have moustaches, beards, neck hair, etc. when they really don't)
Stupid goalies (Goalies sprawl onto the ice and act like they're having a seizure, I hope they change that and a lot more goalie animations. I hate it when goalies go out of the trapezoid and get a Delay of Game penalty)
They want to call their game real? How about having 4 officials on the ice?
I hope they have the Delay of Game penalty (flipping it over the glass in the D zone)
4 minute High Stickings (09 has 5 minute High Stickings, does that happen often in the NHL? I hate that!):confused:
How about broken sticks 2K9 and 09?
Rick Nash says he wants more scoring, the scores are high enough! I get a 5-4 average score at the end of the first playing 10 minute periods with it on Hall of Famer, with the Defense and Goalie Saves at 100 and Offense at 60! Do I need to turn the Offense down to 0?
And for all the other gamers who want the goalies to be dumbed down, you guys don't know how to play! If you guys knew how to play, you'd get higher scores.
So I hope Visual Concepts changes the game totally and makes it just like NHL 2K5 and NHL 09 combined. :dance:
Gongshow
June 18th, 2008, 08:39 AM
ofcourse nhl 09 will beat 2k9, nhl 08 will beat 2k9, 2k sports makes some great games but hockey and boxing isnt one of them anymore.
RoadDoggFL
June 18th, 2008, 09:02 AM
I disagree.
See how that works?
navarz
June 18th, 2008, 02:11 PM
ofcourse nhl 09 will beat 2k9, nhl 08 will beat 2k9, 2k sports makes some great games but hockey and boxing isnt one of them anymore.
I also disagree. EA may always out sell 2k but for me being a customer who is only interisted in the franchise mode Ea blows compared to 2k8 and so does NHL 09. No fantasy draft again this year just to name one. If it wasn't for the freezing do to trades and injuries 2k8 would be for ME the best franchise mode to date bar none
joker07
June 18th, 2008, 02:42 PM
ofcourse nhl 09 will beat 2k9, nhl 08 will beat 2k9, 2k sports makes some great games but hockey and boxing isnt one of them anymore.
ofcourse.... NHL 035 will kill 2k9 (2k10 too) but you will very old for play and Mr.Liar Littman too !
thafutureiz
June 21st, 2008, 06:37 PM
Im hopin we can have better online play then EA... The chevy tourney was a success