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gosharks
June 26th, 2008, 06:19 PM
The following is a long, yet accurate list of what should be fixed for NHL 2K9. Hopefully, Visual Concepts has addressed or fixed a majority of these issues. The ones in bold are absolutely key issues that I hope will be addressed for 2K9. All I am looking for is a simulation game of hockey that runs smoothly and is as realistic as can be.

1) AI does not play smart or react properly to situations, so this must be fixed
2) Skating engine must be improved (It looks like the players are floating)
3) Bad player models (Joe Thornton looks nothing like himself)
4) Suctioning (The puck suctions into goalies' gloves and sucks on to players' sticks)
5) Sticks and pucks going through other players, the net, and the boards (Bad collision)
6) Bad animations in between whistles (Players skating around the rink, warming up)
7) No Delay of Game Penalty for flipping puck out of play in defensive zone? :confused:
8) Fans do not react properly or at the right times
9) Fans chanting at wrong times (Fans chant "Nabby" when Turco makes a save)
10) Hitting needs to be toned WAY down
11) More dump and chase play
12) Dump-ins going high and rimming around the glass
13) Fans jump wildly up and down for NO reason at all and sit down for home team goals
14) Hats shower down from rafters for hat tricks (The fans are not even wearing hats!)
15) All players on the game have extremely bad face hair
16) No hand passes called? :confused:
17) Reviewable and disallowed goals
18) High sticking the puck (Goals waved off on high stick deflections)
19) 2 referees and 2 linesmen
20) Add netting around the rink
21) First 3 players to go in the shootout should not be preset (Pick them when SO starts)
22) Icings never get waved off, but in the real NHL linesmen sometimes wave them off
23) Bigger rink size
24) Referees need to have microphones
25) Referees need to do proper penalty signals (Better signal animations)
26) Referees must not bob their arm up and down on delayed penalties
27) Referees need to be near the play and looking at the play at all times
28) Referees should be smart enough to stay out of the players' ways :thumbsdow
29) Let the visiting team put their stick down first on face-offs
30) Players should not take 10 seconds to stop (Players should be able to stop on a dime)
31) Better response when passing and shooting
32) Goalies need to not make dumb plays or passes
33) Goalies need to have the right facemasks
34) Goalies should not sprawl out in a seizure-like fashion on the ice
35) Goalies should not gain superhuman strength and ability on penalty shots or in a SO
36) CPU should not always be successful on poke checks
37) It should not be impossible to poke check the puck from the CPU
38) CPU should not make impossible passes or pass 4 times in 0.1 seconds
39) No players should be able to do the impossible backhand shot
40) Players should do REALISTIC passes and shots
41) The referees should actually blow their whistles (How does the whistle make a sound?)
42) The referees should not magically end up with a puck after it goes out of play
43) Put a guy in each penalty box to open the doors (Penalty boxes magically open)
44) Water bottle should not fall off net and magically end up back on in the same position
45) Hitting the post needs to sound more realistic (LOUDER!)
46) Fix the offside bugs (AI stands offside and never clears, Offsides called for no reason)47) Why do the players come out from the benches at start of the game? :confused:
48) BETTER commentating! (Randy Hahn and Drew Remenda would be nice)
49) Why do players' sticks slice through the middle of the puck? :confused:
50) Goal judges box should not shake way more than the glass on big hits
51) Goal judge box should not have a large control panel in it
52) Why are there only 7 or 8 players on the bench?
53) Why are there only 8 extra sticks on the bench?
54) Where are the assistant coaches and trainers?
55) Why do players hold their wrist when they injure their leg?
56) Why do players not get injured on blocked shots (90+ mph) to the face or body?
57) Players get hurt so easily (Players get hurt taking face-offs)
58) Players should sometimes get tossed from face-off circle without any warnings
59) Referees should have their own personalities
60) Fans should complain and boo referees
61) Fix the faceoff bug where referee refuses to drop puck after a Faceoff Delay of Game
62) In Season Mode, why do teams play 4 days in a row, or 8 games in 10 nights?
63) Why do teams play on Christmas in Season Mode?
64) The pegs stay in place when the nets come off, when they should move with the net
65) Puck should not magnetically stick to players' sticks (Just because they are called sticks does not mean the puck should
stick to them)
66) How come the CPU never gets penalties? (CPU gets maybe 1 penalty every 10 games)
67) How come the CPU team never plays tired when they have no energy?
68) You should be able to lift opponents sticks
69) Fighting engine should be improved
70) While in a fight, why could you lose the fight from one punch from the CPU player
71) Get rid of the health meter in fights! (This is not an action or a wrestling game!)
72) Fix the glitch where the opposing team celebrates for the other team's goal
73) Road team Stars of the Game should not come out onto the ice
74) Why does the losing team receive the Stanley Cup first when the other team wins it?
75) Why are there large piles of snow in front of each post?
76) Player models are way to small and too hard to see
77) Why are the players as fat as the goalies? (Players' pads are bigger than goalie pads)
78) PA announcers should sound better and meaner (This is HOCKEY!)
79) Why don't the coaches ever talk to players on the bench?
80) Commentators and PA announcers should not mispronounce players' names!
81) Commentators should talk about stuff relevant to the game and the play!
82) Arenas need to look more authentic!
83) Why don't the jumbotrons work?
84) Get rid of cut scene celebrations! Also, add more realistic and authentic celebrations!
85) Broken sticks, or at least dropped sticks!
86) Rookies and 4th liners should not be able to be able to do veteran moves!
87) Fix the fatigue system!
88) Put in a Create-A-Play Mode like EA
89) Please update players' equipment for 2K9
90) Bank passes off the boards
91) Defenders should be able to ride players into the boards (This would reduce hitting!)
92) Players should cross over when skating backwards!
93) Make the CPU AI way smarter! (The CPU does not even pull their goalie down by 1 in the 3rd period final minute)
94) Improve the Stanley Cup win celebration, and include an award ceremony
95) Have zambonis resurfacing the ice at intermissions
96) Actually have intermission reports
97) Overall improve defensive play and controls
98) Improve graphics (Make it feel next gen)
99) Physics based hitting would be nice
100) Include more than 2 variations of penalties in the game, not just hooking & roughing
101) Have fans leave games early during blowouts, and improve playoff atmosphere

Here are a few more things that I though of after finishing another game of NHL 2K8.
102) Why does the AI always go for the cross-check or hit from behind? Then, these hits aren't even called!
103) I would really, really, like to see 2 on 1, 2 on 0, 3 on 0, 3 on 1, and 3 on 2 plays. I hate constant breakaways!
104) Players should criss-cross each other and cover for each other's positions on the ice.
105) Fans wearing teams new jerseys with the new logos.

Savoie06
June 26th, 2008, 06:46 PM
Pretty detailed list,even if a bit picky.Wanting so many little things out of a hockey video game I think is a bit unrealistic.Think about how much of this is really necessary for a video game.Honestly alot of those little details mean nothing if the gameplay is rotten.

joker07
June 27th, 2008, 01:15 AM
GOSHARKS ITS A definitely GREAT POST ! THANKS FOR YOUR TIME ! :dance:

Openquarters15
June 27th, 2008, 09:24 AM
great list! They should look at your list. And it's not unrealistic if you truly want to better your game.

NTq
June 29th, 2008, 04:15 PM
Am I the only one who read that entire list and didn't agree with it all (like it should be) there are some things you want that is just too ridiculous for a video game (yet realistic, I.E. the 2 linesmen 2 refs. It would be too crowded. Maybe add a 2nd ref or 21 linesman but not 3 or 4) most of that stuff is not needed and for the rest, half of it is already in the game.

Also, Thornton doesn't look exactly like Thornton, but since your a sharks fan, i'm sure you've seen how realistic Cheechoo and Grier look for example.

Savoie06
June 29th, 2008, 09:36 PM
No I agree with you,in fact I even asked how much of that was REALLY necessary for a video game.

Hextall27
July 4th, 2008, 08:17 AM
I have to agree with you on all but the 75. I am a goalie and I push snow to my post to slow down wrap-a-rounds. Thats why thats there, sometimes (at least on 2k7) you'd see goalies put it there.

NTq
July 7th, 2008, 04:28 PM
Sorry Savoie, missed it.

KobeBryant24
July 8th, 2008, 01:01 PM
Great list...reviewable goals is a big one. I could have sworn they had this in the NHL games a while back, so I don't know why they haven't been in any of the newer versions.

pairunoyd
July 8th, 2008, 02:45 PM
I hate when you swing your stick on defense and then change players and the newly controlled player also swings his stick. When you change players, all prior controller inputs should not apply to him.

I posted a good while back, but I'd like to see pivot controls, a way of anchoring yourself to the ice so you can more easily pivot and also more easily protect the puck. This would allow most of the checking/bumping to remain but give the puck handler more resources to combat it.

goonitup
July 11th, 2008, 07:00 AM
I have to say great list. But you missed so real key fixes that need to be looked at, but Im not sure if you were just posting quick game or season stuff..

Let me start by saying I only play FRANCHISE. so here goes

I like all the suggestions but the 1 major fix is definately the TRADE problem. I love to see all the teams make trades. I love to make trades.. I trade every player on my team once just to see if I could do it.

I must also say that I do love this game and dont mind a few "little" bugs like equiptment problems although when you create a guy he has on a really set of girly gloves(RAINBOW). I dont get that. anyway....

I also must say that the CPU AI must get better.

Those in my opinion are the 2 major fixes...

Great Job

Later

GOON

dutch401
July 11th, 2008, 09:18 AM
One of the things I have been dying to see on your games is online co-op play! I have several brothers who live out of state. Whenever we get together, we try to play a 2K sports game (whichever one is in season) together playing on the same team. We can only do that when we all get together in person, though. I'd love to be able to do that online, but your online play only allows you to play against each other and we do not like that.

If four of us get online (from separate systems), I'd love to jump on the 2K Sports servers and be able to decide which team we want to play on... whether that is 2-on-2, 3-on-1, or four of us taking on the computer.

Are there any plans for this? Why limit online play to where you can only play against one another?

Aaron