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acoosticant
June 29th, 2008, 08:49 PM
I and quite a few others have expressed concern about this issue in the General Discussion forum but I wanted to make it known here as well (just in case this is the only forum being read for addressing problems in the game).

The issue is that a player can move out to a position on the base line wider than the default position and, from there, pull off a serve that virtually makes it impossible for the returner to get into position for a second shot. Even if you can get back to get your racket on it, you are so far out of position due to the realistic momentum that you will almost certainly not return another shot.

At times, if the guy using this serve isn't very good, you can win a point or two but breaking serve against a guy using this is pretty much impossible. You pretty much just have to hope you can hold serve and then get lucky in a tie-breaker--it's the only way you're going to beat a guy using this.

PLEASE, PLEASE, FIX THIS. It makes online competition almost unplayable because you never know when you are going to run into someone using this glitch.

Some of the mentioned remedies that you could possibly implement are:

1) make an invisible barrier during singles matches that prevent the server from moving any wider than the default position (a line similar to the one you use to prevent the returner from moving too far up the court on service return),

2) apply severe, escalating accuracy penalties the wider you get on the service line (this would actually keep with "real" tennis as the wider you get, the more difficult the service box is to hit),

3) improve the "Return" attribute so that someone with a high return can just blast this serve down the line with a good amount of consistency which would make people less likely to attempt this serve.

I don't know anything about coding a video game so some or none of these suggestions may work. Maybe you guys have an even better solution. Just please do something. I REALLY want to like this game!

Also, could an admin or someone please post and acknowledge that you guys are aware of the problem and working on fixing it? If there is no hope of this getting fixed, I would like to go ahead and trade in while I can still get some value for the game. If you need someone to replicate the issue for one of the developers please feel free to send me a PM and I can meet you on Live. Or you could just play 5 or so online ranked matches and you're sure to come across someone using it.


Links to Threads Regarding this Issue in the General Discussion:
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177948
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177728

candy2500
June 30th, 2008, 03:07 PM
take away there ability to hit the shot by taking away the superman trigger

zooz
July 2nd, 2008, 03:33 AM
I totally agree.
They´ve got to fix this!

stonewithu
July 2nd, 2008, 12:27 PM
I don't think this is an important issue, coz you can use risk shot or shape shot to return serves. I ve met alots of exploiters during WT, they have no way to beat you by only "100 power" if you manage how to use risk/shape shot.
Im currently rank no1 at WT women part. my suggestion is go to TS school and practise risk/shape shot to make sure every risk shot to be "unrisk"

Slengteng
July 2nd, 2008, 12:56 PM
This is definitely a problem with the game. The problem is that even when you know it is coming and set up wide to receive the serve you have no way to punish as you would be able to in real tennis. People defend the wide serves by saying you can do them in real tennis, but in real tennis if someone does the same serve to me over and over I can then anticipate it and easily make them pay. It should be easy to make a player pay for hitting the same serve to you over and over. Instead in Top Spin 3 in order to punish the shot you have to leave the serve up the middle open by setting up wide and hit a risk shot which is harder than a normal shot. In real tennis if you know exactly where the serve is going it's easy to hit a massive return, that's why people never would serve to the same spot over and over like this.

Having said all this I have found that the best way to handle these wide serves is to immediately hold LB to sprint back to cover the open court after hitting your return. It at least gives you a shot at getting your racquet on the next shot instead of just giving up the automatic winner. If the server is really nailing the wide serves there's nothing you can do, but if they don't get them all to go quite as wide the LB can give you a glimmer of hope.

Slengteng
July 2nd, 2008, 01:07 PM
A simple solution would be to make risk serves harder to hit. Right now it's so easy that risking on first and second serve is little worry.

Jori
July 3rd, 2008, 08:35 AM
I hope this problem will be fixed....

I've played against many people using wide serves and it's a freaking joke!!!

when the opponent use the wide serve, i'm not silly and i do too xD
the game is reduced to:

game for him, game for me , game for him , game for me, game for him, game for me...
and finally.. in tie break... Win the lucky man! xD

yeahh... this is real tennis! :rotfl:


it's really really ridiculous xD