Run Reader Is Making My CAP Gold MLB Stupid

[nyknicks33]

I'm playing in an NFL sim League with the Jets, and one of the attributes that my LB-David Harris is Run Reader.

Let me tell you, the dude is bloody awful. First of all, he comes of of the field after 2-3 plays, and then I dont see him again for about 4.

Second, I have seen the guy just make the flat out worst plays in the running game that I have ever seen.

He'll start towards the hole, and if the running back bounces out, or cuts back, he wont attempt to follow..he'll just keep on going towards the hole that the running play began.

He wiffs on tackles constantly, and always steers himself right into Linemen. I have never, ever seen a LB of any tier, CAP or no CAP, do the crazy things that he is doing.

His attributes are: Run Reader, Run Coverage, pass Rush, Wrap up Tackler, Ball Strip.
I'm wondering if I just lucked into a really bad build.

He's so bad that I am probably going to have to control him myself at all times, rather then my safety

[Birdman1702]

I was having the same problem with Patrick Willis on my 49er team...I think their abilities are similar. Through my first game and a half, Willis had 0 tackles and 1 assist, so I manually controlled him in the 2nd half. I think he finished with like 6 tackles, 2 assists and a 1 PD, so it looks like I might have to manually control him most of the time.

[jasonel]

I Think this was discussed before and we agreed on that Run Coverage is better for LBs they track the ball carrier down.
Run Reader is more for DBs like Safeties cause then they shoot the hole and they dont get taken out of the play since they are much more far away

[nyknicks33]

I Think this was discussed before and we agreed on that Run Coverage is better for LBs they track the ball carrier down.
Run Reader is more for DBs like Safeties cause then they shoot the hole and they dont get taken out of the play since they are much more far away


You may have something there. I guess I'm going to have to control the guy myself, and control the generic safety on obvious passing situations..

what a waste of an attribute though..the man plays like a total buffoon.

[M CARDOSO1]

i think closing speed for linebackers is amazing try having that instead of run reader and watch him fly to the ball

[zhaoyun707]

i think closing speed for linebackers is amazing try having that instead of run reader and watch him fly to the ball
I totally agree, that skill is very important, he does fly sidelines to sidelines.

[Scooter53]

For Keith Bullock I have
Big Hit
Run Coverage
Speed
Sack Master or Pass Rush
Footsteps
He does great. The only problem is he cant shake blocks that well. He hits the runners or whoever has the ball like a freight train though.

[J_Frank]

I have 3 Bronze Lbs with closing speed and Elvin Bethea on the line, they play great and attack the ball very good.


,peace

[twosilk]

i think closing speed for linebackers is amazing try having that instead of run reader and watch him fly to the ball
quit telling my secrets!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

[GoodSense]

I Think this was discussed before and we agreed on that Run Coverage is better for LBs they track the ball carrier down.
Run Reader is more for DBs like Safeties cause then they shoot the hole and they dont get taken out of the play since they are much more far away

Great Assessment!

[XRated]

Yo the best attributes Ive seen on a LB is the one xXLegendXx and I have,and it seems their all over da damn place:
Quick Feet(prolly da best attribute for a LB)
Run Coverage
Wrap Up Tackler
Speed Burner
Strength Bonus
when he gets his hands on you,its over...if u only have 3 to work with,make sure you have Strength Bonus and Quick Feet as 2 of your attributes.Try them out and Holla Back

[nyknicks33]

I swear, my CAP David Harris is going to make me smash something.

Just endured a game where he came off the field tired after every 2nd play..not reacting to pursue ball carriers, not making tackles..and being an overall liability.


I have no choice but to control him at all times now. He's the worst LB I have ever seen.

[nflhitman]

I swear, my CAP David Harris is going to make me smash something.

Just endured a game where he came off the field tired after every 2nd play..not reacting to pursue ball carriers, not making tackles..and being an overall liability.


I have no choice but to control him at all times now. He's the worst LB I have ever seen.

That is funny!!

:rotfl:

[jasonel]

Quick Feet is beneficial also

[Scooter53]

Try this
Speed Bonus
Run Coverage
Footsteps
Big Hit
Quick Feet/ Sack Master
Thats what my Keith Bullock has and he is the Best LB I have created.

[Valdarez]

Run Reader makes them stand there, as they read the play, and many times allows them to get blocked. Surprisingly, it's really a horrible attribute for a LB.

For a Run Coverage LB, who can Blitz, I think the preferred attributes should be:

Quick Feet - Allows the LB to pick up speed faster
Run Coverage Gives the LB a Speed Boost when going after Ball Carrier on a Run Play.
Closing Speed - Supposedly gives a LB a Speed Boost when chasing down any player with the ball (I personally can't see it)
Pass Rush Bonus - Speed Increase when rushing the QB (pretty sure the player has to be targeted to Rush the QB in order to get the bonus, not 100% certain on this though)
Speed Burner - Increases a players top Speed, but not their acceleration, and is not context sensitive.
Sack Master - Ensures the player will sack the QB, and the QB will go down if hit (instead of just sliding off the QB), better ability if you don't plan on manually controlling the LB.

The other attributes appear to have a lower rate of return on them.

[ballin5692]

actually it is possible to break a tackle when the player has sack master. i broke tackles once in a while when i used randall cunningham against players with sack master.

[nyknicks33]

Run Reader makes them stand there, as they read the play, and many times allows them to get blocked. Surprisingly, it's really a horrible attribute for a LB.



Great. And I'm stuck with this turkey for NFLP and NSL.

Now I have to control him every dang play and hope my generic safety doesnt have brain cramps out there.

[nflhitman]

Great. And I'm stuck with this turkey for NFLP and NSL.

Now I have to control him every dang play and hope my generic safety doesnt have brain cramps out there.

This stuff is so damn funny LOL! Glad its you and not me. I don't like ILB in general because they get blocked way too easy IMO.

[nyknicks33]

This stuff is so damn funny LOL! Glad its you and not me. I don't like ILB in general because they get blocked way too easy IMO.


When you play in NFLP, you'll see what I am talking about.

I wont control him for the 1st posession and you can sit back and watch him act a fool all over the field.

[twosilk]

When you play in NFLP, you'll see what I am talking about.

I wont control him for the 1st posession and you can sit back and watch him act a fool all over the field.

i personally think he is a great player lol lol!!!!

Great game yesterday!!! too bad any body had to lose that game.

[Valdarez]

I don't like ILB in general because they get blocked way too easy IMO.Agreed, although I always have an ILB on my team. Here's the types of ILB I would look for when playing.

1st - Quick / Hard Hitter - The guy that can get in position to make the play, whether it's a tackle or a hit on the receiver to knock the ball loose.
2nd - Towering Giants / Pass Coverage - The tall guys that can reach up and knock a pass down from anywhere on the field. These guys are great at covering the middle of the field and helping stop the QB to TE slants / in patterns.
3rd - Quick / Pass Rusher - This is the guy that I'm going to use either manually or let the AI use to rush the QB fairly often during the game. If this was an OLB, this type of player would be my 2nd option as the OLB won't give up the center of the field like the ILB does when he rushes the QB.

As with everything, individual results may vary. :)

[nyknicks33]

i personally think he is a great player lol lol!!!!

Great game yesterday!!! too bad any body had to lose that game.

haha..yeah it was a good game. What was hilarious to me was that my run defense IMPROVED on the downs that my generic was subbing in for him, That's how atrocious he was lol

[nyknicks33]

latest "performance" from mr. David Harris vs Juics' Patriots:

0 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 pressures, 0 passes defensed :eek: :thumbsdow :confused: :o :( :rotfl:

[nflhitman]

latest "performance" from mr. David Harris vs Juics' Patriots:

0 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 pressures, 0 passes defensed :eek: :thumbsdow :confused: :o :( :rotfl:

Maybe everyone is running away from him :rotfl:

[nflhitman]

Agreed, although I always have an ILB on my team. Here's the types of ILB I would look for when playing.

1st - Quick / Hard Hitter - The guy that can get in position to make the play, whether it's a tackle or a hit on the receiver to knock the ball loose. Dave Wilcox, Karl Mecklenburg, Carl Banks, Van Pelt, Brazile, John Offerdahl are all great at ILB and the only players IMO that do any good there at ILB
2nd - Towering Giants / Pass Coverage - The tall guys that can reach up and knock a pass down from anywhere on the field. These guys are great at covering the middle of the field and helping stop the QB to TE slants / in patterns.Dave Wilcox, Karl Mecklenburg, Carl Banks, Van Pelt, Brazile, John Offerdahl are all great at ILB and the only players IMO that do any good there at ILB
3rd - Quick / Pass Rusher - This is the guy that I'm going to use either manually or let the AI use to rush the QB fairly often during the game. If this was an OLB, this type of player would be my 2nd option as the OLB won't give up the center of the field like the ILB does when he rushes the QB.Dave Wilcox, Karl Mecklenburg, Carl Banks, Van Pelt, Brazile, John Offerdahl are all great at ILB and the only players IMO that do any good there at ILB

As with everything, individual results may vary. :)

Only 2 ILB's in general that have been anygood for me and they are highlighted but the best at ILB is an OLB subbed in as an ILB.

[Valdarez]

Nice break down Hitman (though some of those are OLBs). You left one important ILB off the list though.

The best bang for your ILB buck is Peppar Johnson, a Bronze ILB. He moves fast, even without quick feet. Has Ball Strip, Pass Rush, and Wrap Up tackler. He's great for playing coverage or rushing the QB when manually controlling him, and he makes turn overs. Sure, maybe not a LOT of turn overs, but he still will knock the ball loose here and there, and turn overs in any game are always helpful.

[nflhitman]

Nice break down Hitman (though some of those are OLBs). You left one important ILB off the list though.

The best bang for your ILB buck is Peppar Johnson, a Bronze ILB. He moves fast, even without quick feet. Has Ball Strip, Pass Rush, and Wrap Up tackler. He's great for playing coverage or rushing the QB when manually controlling him, and he makes turn overs. Sure, maybe not a LOT of turn overs, but he still will knock the ball loose here and there, and turn overs in any game are always helpful.

I have used Pepper Johnson on my 3-4 teams and he hasn't impressed me. He is too heavy to be that good while Offerdahl has Wrap up Tackler & Run Coverage and is 6'3" and 228 pounds makes him a better ILB IMO.

[nflhitman]

latest "performance" from mr. David Harris vs Juics' Patriots:

0 tackles, 0 assists, 0 sacks, 0 pressures, 0 passes defensed :eek: :thumbsdow :confused: :o :( :rotfl:

On my Seahawks team I always had Lofa Tatupu as one of my Gold picks at ILB. His attributes were....

Run Reader, Coverage Bonus, Big Hit, Leadership Bonus, Closing Speed

He sucked really bad just like your ILB. I just think a ILB in this game AI is horrible. Sad Because when I first got this game I wanted Singletary and Lott on my team but Singletary sucked bad also. When I make an ILB from now on I make him an OLB and than sub him in at ILB and they are much better.

[nyknicks33]

I just tested probably the best ILB I have used to date, on a new Tampa-style team: Joe Schmidt. He gets reaLly deep on middle coverage on his own, he can change directions..and he actually DOES SOMETHING...plus he has leadership to boot.

He's basically a better version of Scott Studwell