Whats with all the crying!!

[soleshark]

First off i dont get on here very much and post, but
dayum everytime i get on here most are crying about
what plays you can or cannot do.
God forbid if you stop their money plays or take them out
of their comfort zone~then you become cheese, just
because they are talented enough to move the ball or stop you.

you cant run post patterns:rotfl:
you cant run the same defense :rotfl:
you cant run with randall :rotfl:
you cant use campbell :rotfl:
my favorite: you cant use 2 gold players on offense( thats a good 1)
you cant cant cant cant cant cant :rotfl:

my logic is this! if some1 runs the same play over & over
its your fault for staying in your same defense or not
adjusting your defense to stop it~ plain & simple!!!!!!:thumbsdow

post routes are stoppable:thumbsup:
campbell is stoppable:thumbsup:
and just about everything in this game can be stopped.:thumbsup:

One more thing as far as a clean cut best player ~ there isnt
a best player in this game ! some players are better at others
in certain areas of the game ` defense offense ect!
Just because you are ranked high, dosent mean you are better
than some1 a lower rank (period) 95 % of the rank in based
on wins, dosent matter if you have 800 wins you can have 250 disconnects
and be in the top 10~ wtf!
some get on here in the top 20 with 400 wins & 75 losses & 200 discon or quits
bragging like their a top player(unbelievable)!!!!!

So stop the crying , ******ing ! bragging , cause at the end of the
day your still just a gametag!! 99 % of people on here donot
know each other, so whats all the bragging about anways?
Does it really mean that much for some1 to post a gametag
saying your the best, its not like any1 know what you look like
to give you props anyway.

peace the shark:D

[GoodSense]

First off i dont get on here very much and post, but
dayum everytime i get on here most are crying about
what plays you can or cannot do.
God forbid if you stop their money plays or take them out
of their comfort zone~then you become cheese, just
because they are talented enough to move the ball or stop you.

you cant run post patterns:rotfl:
you cant run the same defense :rotfl:
you cant run with randall :rotfl:
you cant use campbell :rotfl:
my favorite: you cant use 2 gold players on offense( thats a good 1)
you cant cant cant cant cant cant :rotfl:

my logic is this! if some1 runs the same play over & over
its your fault for staying in your same defense or not
adjusting your defense to stop it~ plain & simple!!!!!!:thumbsdow

post routes are stoppable:thumbsup:
campbell is stoppable:thumbsup:
and just about everything in this game can be stopped.:thumbsup:

One more thing as far as a clean cut best player ~ there isnt
a best player in this game ! some players are better at others
in certain areas of the game ` defense offense ect!
Just because you are ranked high, dosent mean you are better
than some1 a lower rank (period) 95 % of the rank in based
on wins, dosent matter if you have 800 wins you can have 250 disconnects
and be in the top 10~ wtf!
some get on here in the top 20 with 400 wins & 75 losses & 200 discon or quits
bragging like their a top player(unbelievable)!!!!!

So stop the crying , ******ing ! bragging , cause at the end of the
day your still just a gametag!! 99 % of people on here donot
know each other, so whats all the bragging about anways?
Does it really mean that much for some1 to post a gametag
saying your the best, its not like any1 know what you look like
to give you props anyway.

peace the shark:D
AMEN! I don't mind people discussing necessary improvements.
That is fine, but that is where I draw the line unless it is something like that FG glitch before the patch.

Off Subject. You still driven that gas guzzler in your avatar or is that just a picture of one because you like the vehicle?

[soleshark]

AMEN! I don't mind people discussing necessary improvements.
That is fine, but that is where I draw the line unless it is something like that FG glitch before the patch.

Off Subject. You still driven that gas guzzler in your avatar or is that just a picture of one because you like the vehicle?
yes, that's my H3~ not to bad on gas!
but i have a H2 also, now that's the gas guzzler:lol:

[Khan Lives]

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I got an idea. Instead of you getting on here crying about what others are crying about. Why don't you give the info that they are looking for inorder to stop them from crying? I think that kinda post would be better than another post about crying. Just my opinion.

[soleshark]

I got an idea. Instead of you getting on here crying about what others are crying about. Why don't you give the info that they are looking for inorder to stop them from crying? I think that kinda post would be better than another post about crying. Just my opinion.
well Khan~ that has been tried before with no success:thumbsdow
also for your info partner~ im not crying at all, im just making a point!!!

i guess i must have hit a nerve w/ you since your crying about my post.

[Khan Lives]

well Khan~ that has been tried before with no success:thumbsdow
also for your info partner~ im not crying at all, im just making a point!!!

i guess i must have hit a nerve w/ you since your crying about my post.


I think you're right about hitting a nerve....... cuz i am a lil tired about reading post that people are saying what you can and can't do. Some of it is fine, but now it's just getting to be too much. Then the post comes crying about how everyone is crying and their crying in their post too. So yeah... u did hit a nerve, cuz a post just like this was out a couple days ago. Matter of fact, it just finished today so it must be on page 2. Something about Routes being banned. So am i cryin... i think not... but what i do is... ask questions about how to stop such and such... or how to do such and such to get better at the game. I'm tryin to move to the elite level players tier and that requires knowledge. So if u got some, then share it.

[soleshark]

I think you're right about hitting a nerve....... cuz i am a lil tired about reading post that people are saying what you can and can't do. Some of it is fine, but now it's just getting to be too much. Then the post comes crying about how everyone is crying and their crying in their post too. So yeah... u did hit a nerve, cuz a post just like this was out a couple days ago. Matter of fact, it just finished today so it must be on page 2. Something about Routes being banned. So am i cryin... i think not... but what i do is... ask questions about how to stop such and such... or how to do such and such to get better at the game. I'm tryin to move to the elite level players tier and that requires knowledge. So if u got some, then share it.
people are on here all the time posting what defenses shop certain plays ect!
my reason for starting this post was because of everything you seem to do
is this game some1 gets on here to say it isnt sim or its cheese!!!!
Knowledge of this game is posted everyday by some good players on here,
but its mostly down graded because some1 cant stop a certain player
on certain plays & its un sim!!! which is BS>

I TAKE IT ThAT YOU ARE 1 OF THE CRYING ONES> If you aren't then you
should know where i am coming from........

[Khan Lives]

people are on here all the time posting what defenses shop certain plays ect!
my reason for starting this post was because of everything you seem to do
is this game some1 gets on here to say it isnt sim or its cheese!!!!
Knowledge of this game is posted everyday by some good players on here,
but its mostly down graded because some1 cant stop a certain player
on certain plays & its un sim!!! which is BS>

I TAKE IT ThAT YOU ARE 1 OF THE CRYING ONES> If you aren't then you
should know where i am coming from........


you not gonna see a post on here created by me saying what's sim or unsim, what's a glitch or an exploit. instead you'd see something informative..... so me and crying.... you're reaching

I don't think u understand what i am asking for.... You posted this thread. I'm asking you if YOU have info about the above topics that YOU originally posted in this thread. Since u say all things can be stopped in THIS thread... then please explain how IN THIS thread. I'm not asking what someone else posted. I read those. I want to see what YOU know.. or don't know. Can you handle that or what?.

[Valdarez]

I think he's saying, instead of crying about people crying about the routes you listed. Post the defenses that effectively contain each route.

[SIMON x BELMONT]

I kinda feel the same exact way as the OP. I'm just glad he said it. I never want to start big thread wars. I do feel how he feels ona lot of things though.

1 example:

People talk consistently on here about how using Lee Roy Selmon, Bethea, Lett, and Manley is cheese because of their swim move. But then at the same time EVERYBODY is always slamming how pointless and wastes of picks Offensive Linemen are.

You end up getting people who choose not to use O-Linemen (so they can beef their offense even more) and then they make rules that you can't use Swimming D-Linemen. It's a total case of having their cake and eating it too.

If I don't want Selmon in my grill, I use one of my (oh so precious offensive slots) to put a Tackle in there to block him.

I just think it's a case where too much micro managing of cheese become cheese itself.

Now again, I don't want to start a war, but the OP has a big accurate point here.

[SIMON x BELMONT]

I got an idea. Instead of you getting on here crying about what others are crying about. Why don't you give the info that they are looking for inorder to stop them from crying? I think that kinda post would be better than another post about crying. Just my opinion.

This post makes no sense. Give them the info???

Guy A thinks act A is cheese, guy B thinks act A is not cheese. What can guy B do to change guy A's opinion, when it's set in stone? That's kind of the reason he said what he said. Making a counter point thread to their list of "can't uses" would just start an argument that would never end. So instead he opted to express how he thinks "can't leagues" are also cheese.

[Khan Lives]

This post makes no sense. Give them the info???

Guy A thinks act A is cheese, guy B thinks act A is not cheese. What can guy B do to change guy A's opinion, when it's set in stone? That's kind of the reason he said what he said. Making a counter point thread to their list of "can't uses" would just start an argument that would never end. So instead he opted to express how he thinks "can't leagues" are also cheese.

You know what?... with all your A and B talk... it's waaayyy to smart for me. So i'm gonna say things basic. If a player is saying the Out route is Cheese... then tell him what plays stop the out. Whether it's wide side of the field or what. If a player says having Route God Wrs run double post patterns Out or In, is Cheese... then tell him how to stop it. If it's written in stone or not.. doesn't matter. The point is now the player knows what to do. Knowledge is power. If a player says the FG Glitch or the DLine Glitch is cheese... because No matter what... the player comes in untouch because of the AI of the game... then you know what... sometimes stuff is Cheese, but if u have the remedy... then share it. That way people can prevent it from happening. Once people know what to do.. then they can start making better teams.. which will take them to the next level of this game. Stick control on D and strategy.

Still waitin from the author.

[jackpot_6902]

i agree with your post completely!

i disagree with my 71%. i play real!!!!! LOSERS are preventing people from playing me.

[SIMON x BELMONT]

You know what?... with all your A and B talk... it's waaayyy to smart for me. So i'm gonna say things basic. If a player is saying the Out route is Cheese... then tell him what plays stop the out. Whether it's wide side of the field or what. If a player says having Route God Wrs run double post patterns Out or In, is Cheese... then tell him how to stop it. If it's written in stone or not.. doesn't matter. The point is now the player knows what to do. Knowledge is power. If a player says the FG Glitch or the DLine Glitch is cheese... because No matter what... the player comes in untouch because of the AI of the game... then you know what... sometimes stuff is Cheese, but if u have the remedy... then share it. That way people can prevent it from happening. Once people know what to do.. then they can start making better teams.. which will take them to the next level of this game. Stick control on D and strategy.

Still waitin from the author.


Dude, look...if you need to know how to stop an out-route you're either...

A: Not too knowledgeable about football in the first place, therefore you have no authority on what is cheese to go on a message board to declare it. Learn football first and then decide on what is cheese.

Or you're...

B: Too lazy to use the practice mode for 15 minutes to find out for yourself.


You can reply (it's your right) but I'm done on this thread. There's nothing more for me to say on the subject.

[FootballSchemer]

No Post??

who the hell would make that a rule?

[Valdarez]

Cheeze is such a cheezy word. This is the only community I have ever seen it used. Other online communities break things down based on skill, or no skill. We should put together a list of all of the routes, and list the complexity associated with completing a pass utilizing the route.

Rate the Routes as Short, Medium, Long, and Easy, Average, Difficult to get open / complete.

And drop all the cheeziness.

[soleshark]

their shouldnt be any routes in this game that's chees IMO!!!!
most people on here just want to stay in a one defense all game instead
of changing defenses up~ mix it up sometimes,,,,
everyone cries about the out slant route~ but it's no different than
the slant in route or the out route ect.... all i was saying is that it can be stopped~ maybe not on every play, but it can be stopped!

[soleshark]

one more thing~ people that dont use the slant route
they either throw outs or the throw to the middle slant!!!
that's the truth, i guess we are all cheese.....
campbell~ hard to tackle
marino ~ quick throwing
rice ~ catches every thing
montana ~ completes to many passes or makes his generics better (lol)

theirs alot more people cry about ~ this is just a few
come on