Scoring & collision Detection Conected?

[OMHANDS]

Just fought a guy and i made it a point to count his punches that hit in the 4th. He threw a lot but I played a lot of outside fighting and he only hit 6 times. Yet the game says he hit 31 times! Could it be possible since we know that there is a collision detection problem with the game that this may be the cause. Even though punches are obviously missing it still registers as a hit and gets counted even when blocked or avoided? I've had fights where I hit a guy with full stamina using a sig punch and cause no damage at all and on other hit their block get upset cause i wasted a punch and then their bar drops 2/3s. Whatever it is I really hope it gets fixed.

[King-Of-Kings]

Ive tested out punches landed and they are not flawed. If you land a punch then it counts everytime and its not doubled. Punches thrown is something different , power punches thrown is doubled .

Registering punches is the issue because even when you land at times the opponents energy doesnt drop and its frustrating. In real life though at times punches land on opponents and shake it off like it didnt even felt it .

punches landed are not flawed but punches thrown are .

[Knockout]

^^^He's talking about online! Yes the punch totals are screwed sometimes not all the time. It's like it gets to the end of the fight and regardless of what happens during the fight or what the cornermen say it just comes up with complete BS!

[OMHANDS]

King much respect to ya but there is a problem with punches landed as well. I tsalked about it in another post were I had a fight and the game said I threw 222 left hook yet I land 241. How does one land more then he throws. The match I talk about beginning the post I know the guy did not hit me more the 6 times I did not let him get close enough. He continually threw step around hooks to the body and missed yet there are all those hits on me? Guys when I use to do QC work for various companies we would inspect the surface things 1st if all checked out we did not look too much deeper then say one or two critical areas. However, if we found problems on the surface then it was gurented that there were problems everywhere. In short if the game cannot keep an accurate count of some so simple as punches thrown, how can it be trusted to keep track of punches landed.

[King-Of-Kings]

King much respect to ya but there is a problem with punches landed as well. I tsalked about it in another post were I had a fight and the game said I threw 222 left hook yet I land 241. How does one land more then he throws. The match I talk about beginning the post I know the guy did not hit me more the 6 times I did not let him get close enough. He continually threw step around hooks to the body and missed yet there are all those hits on me? Guys when I use to do QC work for various companies we would inspect the surface things 1st if all checked out we did not look too much deeper then say one or two critical areas. However, if we found problems on the surface then it was gurented that there were problems everywhere. In short if the game cannot keep an accurate count of some so simple as punches thrown, how can it be trusted to keep track of punches landed.

oh i wasnt aware of that OMHANDS. I have been testing offline and landing the correct amount that should be landing and the end of the fight they are coming to be exact punches that i did land. Again , the total punches thrown is way off on power punches.

OMHANDS , if you like brother we can test it ....lets just throw 30 punches and i want you to land all of them on me and we shall see what it says at the end. I beleive what your saying but i like to see it for myself...

my gamertag is
KeeganJacobs

[King-Of-Kings]

i keep testing it offline and the punches landed are correct. Maybe its just online its screwed up

[OMHANDS]

Dude that sounds good to me if ya got a mic we can set it up and maybe even perhaps you may find it in your r heart to give me a pointer or 2 on my inside fighting as that is something I have trouble at. I think a seen a youtube vid of you doing combos? am i right? If so, you got some good move better then anything I got. I'm getting on in about 10 min See ya then

[OMHANDS]

Also dude have you noticed that sometime the corners say the same thing to both fighters such as You won 2 to 1 CRoman513 and I noticed it few days back.

[King-Of-Kings]

omhands whats your gamertag ? that youtube was most likely me if it says keegan then yes.

[Mumra]

King-of-Kings that's exactly what I've been trying to tell you the whole time. That online has major flaws and it's almost pointless to even play it.

Which is why I said something about our fight we had. Because no way in hell did you win that fight and even if you believe you did. There is no way you won by that wide margin of a score.

I know we had some close rounds, I know I won some rounds and even big rounds. I know I had you hurt and on the run. I know I landed the bigger shots that fight, And most of you and me both know damn well you did not out boxed me that fight.

Your only excuse is that you had double the punch landed. You tested it out offline which is probley a lot more accrate. But like many had said already it's online where the game flaws really show. So punches thrown and landed are not correct at all. Neither is the wack scoring in this game. And I don't have bad defense like that to begin with.

Last night I got on for run and played someone. The guy boxed a few good rounds but after RD 5 I started to really tag him a lot. Every round I kept beating him to the punch, I landed the bigger shot's. I had his energy low from it, and showed good defense. Yet each round they kept giving him it saying he won.

The game does not register the value of power shot's like it does off line. The way I was landing on him he would have been knockout off line. Anyway I almost came close to knocking him out his health was really low. And the last 4 rounds he was running and not really trying to throw anything.

All because he was trying to last to the end. He may have thrown maybe 6 or 7 punches in RD 9 & 10. Becuase he was on the run knowing if I land a few more good shot's he would have been out of there. When the fight was over the judges gave him every single round, And even listed him throwing and landing double the amount of punches on me.

What's even more crazy, I landed about 7 or 10 hooks on him in RD 10. The game said I landed less, not only from hooks but everything else. The game is so flawed it's not even funny and like I said it's almost pointless to even play online.

It's like playing NBA 2K8 and you hit a 3 pointer. But the game doesnt track it right and only gives you 2 points for it. Just think if it was a game winning shot that you made but it didnt count it as a 3 pointer and you go off to lose. What if you hit seven 3's that game and it only shows up with you hitting two ?

2K we need a patch because this Prize Fighter is unfinnish and should not have been release like this.

[niwde787]

online sucks! mayor arse... i just beat a guy by a mile for 12 rounds... and the gave him the UD...

[King-Of-Kings]

King-of-Kings that's exactly what I've been trying to tell you the whole time. That online has major flaws and it's almost pointless to even play it.

Which is why I said something about our fight we had. Because no way in hell did you win that fight and even if you believe you did. There is no way you won by that wide margin of a score.

I know we had some close rounds, I know I won some rounds and even big rounds. I know I had you hurt and on the run. I know I landed the bigger shots that fight, And most of you and me both know damn well you did not out boxed me that fight.

Your only excuse is that you had double the punch landed. You tested it out offline which is probley a lot more accrate. But like many had said already it's online where the game flaws really show. So punches thrown and landed are not correct at all. Neither is the wack scoring in this game. And I don't have bad defense like that to begin with.

Last night I got on for run and played someone. The guy boxed a few good rounds but after RD 5 I started to really tag him a lot. Every round I kept beating him to the punch, I landed the bigger shot's. I had his energy low from it, and showed good defense. Yet each round they kept giving him it saying he won.

The game does not register the value of power shot's like it does off line. The way I was landing on him he would have been knockout off line. Anyway I almost came close to knocking him out his health was really low. And the last 4 rounds he was running and not really trying to throw anything.

All because he was trying to last to the end. He may have thrown maybe 6 or 7 punches in RD 9 & 10. Becuase he was on the run knowing if I land a few more good shot's he would have been out of there. When the fight was over the judges gave him every single round, And even listed him throwing and landing double the amount of punches on me.

What's even more crazy, I landed about 7 or 10 hooks on him in RD 10. The game said I landed less, not only from hooks but everything else. The game is so flawed it's not even funny and like I said it's almost pointless to even play online.

It's like playing NBA 2K8 and you hit a 3 pointer. But the game doesnt track it right and only gives you 2 points for it. Just think if it was a game winning shot that you made but it didnt count it as a 3 pointer and you go off to lose. What if you hit seven 3's that game and it only shows up with you hitting two ?

2K we need a patch because this Prize Fighter is unfinnish and should not have been release like this.

Like ive mentioned before and ill say again. Punches thrown are off which is no big deal but the PUNCHES BEING LANDED are on point !!

OMHANDS and I did some testing last night as i stand correct, punches being landed are accurate but the punches being thrown are off WHICH DOES NOT EFFECT THE SCORING when i outlanded you by double MUMRA !

Im not gonna sit here and argue anymore with you mumra, testing is the only way to do this and ill be more than happy to show you that the punches being landed are accurate which thats all it counts.

[Knockout]

^^^How did you do any testing online when you don't have a mic? YOU KNOW IT'S BROKE! You KNOW damn good and well in 3 fights you didn't land double the punches and win every round against me.

[King-Of-Kings]

^^^How did you do any testing online when you don't have a mic? YOU KNOW IT'S BROKE! You KNOW damn good and well in 3 fights you didn't land double the punches and win every round against me.

im not gonna sit here and reply to you since your still frustrated from my defeats. Also i dont want the mod to warn us since he has too many times...

Facts are ....

Punches landing are accurate (most important stat)
Punches being thrown are inaccurate(so what)
Punches being thrown from a distance and are missed, they dont count as punches being thrown at all.
Power punches being thrown and MISSED are counted as doubled in the thrown category.

Dont need testing with mic , like i mentioned before OMHANDS and I did some testing and we both agree that punches landing are accurate which is the most important stat.

Maybe in online , the punches that you think are not registering is most likely due to lag. But those punches are counting as punches being landed but not lowering the energy bar of the other fighter which is good because in real boxing not all punches hurt.

Punches being counted are punches that land flush which is a good thing.

[OMHANDS]

Dude, keegan is right on this & is telling the truth we did do some testing last nite and even though we got some really wild #s for punches thrown every punch landed was counted accurately. However, and I do not mean to play devil's advocate here I would like to do much more extensive testing then what we where able to do last nite. After we got done last nite I got to thinking if the game is adding thrown punches who is to say it is not adding connected punches as well. The testing we did was 1 rd at 1 min each basicly throwing abought 10 shots at each other. I'd like to do a 10 rder at 3 min each with a set # of punches of each type as well as blocks and avoided punches. All it takes is 1 # to be off or a little bit of program code to be wrong to really screw things up. Keegan brother I am not saying your wrong at all testing we did indicated that punches landed cleanly are counted correctly. Yet I've had 3 fights in the last two days were I counted how many time I was hit in a paticular round usually the last rd and the count was just plan wrong. Point is much more in depth testing should be done as there is just too much uncertainty in the programs ability to count. The basketball comparison was good. If counting is wrong on one side of the stats how can we be sure it is not wrong on the other. AS for keegan's ability to hit I can tell ya that we play a couple 10 rders after test and Keegan is very good at connecting especially if you let him get close. He easily outscore me on the inside 2-1. Our 1st fight ended in 2nd rd with my ko with credit to a perfectly timed sig punch. I had 3/4 health yet I went down for the count. 2nd fight went distance and he won most of the card and while did not outscore 2-1 on the total he had over 200 more punches connected then I did and that was only because I was doing my best to stay outside. Bottom line is a patch is need to fix the problem. It is hard have complete trust in the judging as it stands right now.

[King-Of-Kings]

Great post OMHANDS ! Our 2 sparring sessions were real good especially the last one, you put on a great show ! I would love to do some more testing when you have time.

[OMHANDS]

probily be next weekend I'm going out of town to see my boys. You know what guys, the sad thing is this, we as gamers/customers should not be the ones who are doing the testing of this product. I may get in a few fights before I leave early mon mourn

[Croman513]

does punch % factor also? if so, punches thrown being OFF would really screw up your stats

[King-Of-Kings]

does punch % factor also? if so, punches thrown being OFF would really screw up your stats

No croman, the punch % doesnt factor. ONly factor is punches landed and nothing else and the punches that land, the compubox stats at the end of the fight is correct for the most part of our testing but again that was 5 fights only 1 rounders. Punches thrown are incorrect but scoring has nothing to do with punches thrown only landing .

[Croman513]

Ok but I dont know, there is something more than meets the eye with the online scoring

Im not the best in the game and FAR from the worst though and I've had fights with OMHANDS where I felt he won, without a doubt and we'll look at the cards and I LOSE ALL TEN RDS?


Last night I was fighting some random dude, good fight, I thought I won, Heck even the guy said " Nice fight, good win" they go to the cards..... There was like 7 TIED Rds and they only gave me credit for winning ONE rd?


ERRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Rounds I feel I had control and managed the tempo, I LOSE


I dunno man, Im not disagreeing with you but I cant quite say I agree


My instincts never lead me wrong and in my gut, as much as i LOVE this game, something aint right with the scoring


Its so bad I cant even trust my corner!!!!


They're all a bunch of yes men right now


YES you won that round


Look at the cards... NOPE I ended up LOSING that rd LOL

[Croman513]

also, when was this confirmed that punch landed % doesnt factor in?


not doubting you , but I live by the motto " Believe half of what you see and NONE of what you hear" LOL

[King-Of-Kings]

Croman, im with you with scoring...It should be whoever controls the rounds or landing the more power punches .

In this game, if you land 30 jabs to my 30 uppercuts then it will be a 10-10 round which is terrible .

The rounds you think u controlled , trust me ive had those feelings before but lost the rounds because its whoever lands the most with any punch .

[1nytech1]

I am proud to say that I am not a victim of this blasphemous would be boxing game.

I did play the demo and I quickly noticed that both Calzaghe and Collazo had the same hunchback of notredame ish fighting stance. That was a quick turnoff, but the real hiccup is in the detection and the rest of its frustrating gameplay.