View Full Version : Petition for Rashidi to be the 2K Insider
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 08:42 AM
This is the position I was born to fill for 2K Sports. It's been a dream of mine, and now that the position actually exists, it's time to make it a reality.
If you aren't aware of the topic...
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/nba2k9/news.html?sid=6197851
First of all, the developers at 2K are entirely aware of the competition. As any hoops gaming fan knows, EA Sports' NBA Live 09 announced its player DNA feature a few months back, whereby in-game player attributes will be updated based on real-life results. 2K understands that Living Rosters might sound like a similar feature, and they're quick to point out its essential differences. The crucial distinction, as they put it, is the "human touch" of the 2K Insider, a hired employee whose job it will be to not just act as the face of the 2K Sports community, but to also have a real impact on the rosters in the game.
As with the competition, you can expect to see roster and attribute changes when you download a new 2K roster in NBA 2K9, all based around what's happening in the real world. However, rather than update things on a daily basis, 2K devs told us that the plan was to change a roster when it was warranted. Naturally big-time injuries or huge trades will be reflected in the game on a timely basis. What seems to set 2K9 apart, however, is how those changes are made and how much they can add to the gameplay experience.
The 2K Insider will be able to communicate important news via a blog on the company's Web site, as well as through calling out specific players via an in-game 2K Insider screen that will highlight the latest news and biggest movers in the NBA. In addition, the 2K Insider will be able to affect the stats of players on a regular basis. If Derrick Rose has had a consistent streak of missing from beyond the 3-point line, you can expect to see his 3-point percentage take a hit in the game, courtesy of the Insider.
But while the 2K Insider can take away, he can also give. If Deron Williams continues his success of last season or O.J. Mayo begins to dominate during his maiden campaign in the NBA, you can expect to see not just attribute bonuses but actual new animations available to that player as the season progresses. These new animation packages will be mo-capped, produced, and added during the course of the season by 2K devs and added to deserving players who have excelled during the season (or perhaps even developed a new signature move). In other words, this is new content developed during and relevant to the 2008/09 NBA season, not merely unlockable animation packages that are already in the game.
So, this 2K Insider seems like he will have a lot of power over how 2K9 plays after the game is released in October. While developers say that a lot of his judgment calls will be based on his opinion (and thus open to argument from 2K fans), none of the really important decisions (such as for attribute changes or animation package additions) will be made in a vacuum. The dev team and the Insider will all be discussing big changes in the game, whether new animations that make their way into a specific player's arsenal of moves, right down to the smallest attribute change. In other words, don't blame the 2K Insider if your favorite player takes a huge ratings hit; blame the entire development team. Or better yet, blame the real-life player who blows it on the court in the first place.
I've been putting out the most accurate ratings for the last six years now, always keeping up to date throughout the season. All of the top downloadable rosters use my ratings as a base. If I told people I were the 2K Insider, they would probably believe me. This season my work will be downloadable via 2K Share at the click of a button, without the need of a transfer kit. With weekly updates. And then we'll get to see how happy the fans are with Mr. Insider : )
My 2k8 player edit guide can be found @ http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/file/939852/52393
There have been many updates since then as I gear up for the release of 2k9.
VirusSnake
September 18th, 2008, 08:49 AM
i dont want you to be the one only because you made this thread
pauliewalnutzz
September 18th, 2008, 08:50 AM
Signs...........
Smith146
September 18th, 2008, 08:55 AM
I would imagine you would have to live in Cali where 2K is based for this job...
Scuba
September 18th, 2008, 08:56 AM
I too would like a position with 2k. That sounds like an awesome position and of course for a great company. No hate from me but if you truly desire this position, please provide back up to why we should agree with you and petition you to become the 2k insider. LIke i said great position and I too would love to get involved with 2k, the game and its community and help better our sim gaming experience but I have nothing on these forums showing why I should be top pick. Maybe you should list why YOU should be our 2k. Just saying because you created a thread just requesting to be it without any reason.
Well if 2k reads this, maybe they could respond back to me and ill gladly send in my resume:lol: :thumbsup:
VirusSnake
September 18th, 2008, 08:57 AM
the position should already been covered...so all the fanboys should stop flaming each other for the job lol
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 08:59 AM
Chris Paul is not a 99.. the screenshot you were referring to was from association so his rating had gone up.. Admin Ron confirmed that Chris Paul is not a 99
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 09:00 AM
I would imagine you would have to live in Cali where 2K is based for this job...
If 2k ever offered me a position, I'd move.
I'd be more than willing to work out of my home office for half of what the 2K Insider is making though.
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 09:02 AM
No hate from me but if you truly desire this position, please provide back up to why we should agree with you and petition you to become the 2k insider.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/file/939852/52393
^This
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 09:09 AM
that just shows you have a lot of free time on your hands.. again not hating or anything..
VirusSnake
September 18th, 2008, 09:10 AM
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/file/939852/52393
^This
wow you made a really long faq that nobody ever reads good job!!!!
you are very good at wasting your time
bxfinest15
September 18th, 2008, 09:16 AM
You got my praise and thumbs up Rashidi!Do your thing!
Scuba
September 18th, 2008, 09:19 AM
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/file/939852/52393
^This
Good stuff. You got my vote..haha.. I've seen your name before and all. Some of your work. But again only seen some. Didnt know you had that much *** you did. I honestly dont know anybody else who puts in the kind of work you do. Again, you got my vote.
Scuba
September 18th, 2008, 09:21 AM
Actually Rashidi, let me be your campain manager..haha..
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 09:26 AM
wow you made a really long faq that nobody ever reads good job!!!!
you are very good at wasting your time
From a post I made on the forum today regarding the Blazers ratings.
Brandon Roy: 89/SG (Pos Rank 7, Ovr Rank 30)
Top offensive player on the team, has PG ability, can defend 3 positions, should see plenty of time at SF or even as "point forward" with Bayless and Rudy around.
LaMarcus Aldridge: 83/PF (Pos Rank 14, Ovr Rank 72)
His rebounding should dip marginally with Oden and Przybilla getting all the center minutes. His scoring will take a hit if it doesn't advance from last year. He has a decent mid-range game for his age but needs to improve his post skills as one of the team's few options down low. Only then will he be "David West status".
Travis Outlaw: 81/SF (Pos Rank 30, Ovr Rank 96)
Perhaps the most underrated player in the league. It should be noted that he wanted to be strictly a SF this year after being mostly a PF last year. However with Frye's injury it doesn't look like that will be the case, as Aldridge needs a backup not named Ike Diogu.
Greg Oden: 81/C (Pos Rank 19, Ovr Rank 100)
I'm not as high on Oden as most. His offense is primarily limited to dunking and he'll need to be careful coming off microfracture. He'll need to show he deserves more.
Channing Frye: 79/PF (Pos Rank: 34, Ovr Rank 143)
Great mid-range game for a big man, a well-balanced player with few weaknesses. Could find himself out of the mix with Oden returning and his own injury to recover from.
Steve Blake: 78/PG (Pos Rank 32, Ovr Rank 156)
Good shooter and passer. A pesky defender. A high quality backup filling the starting role until someone proves more worthy.
Joel Przybilla: 78/C (Pos Rank 29, Ovr Rank 164)
Great defensive center and a big reason why Oden coming back doesn't improve Portland as much as you'd think. He's an upgrade from Prz, but not a big one. He's basically Oden minus any offensive touch (or upside, but we're only talking 2k9 here).
Rudy Fernandez: 78/SG (Pos Rank 35, Ovr Rank 165)
Should be a solid backup but don't expect him to be a star regardless of who he dunked on one time. Best case scenario would be akin to the impact Andres Nocioni and Anthony Parker had with their teams. Worst case? There's a long list.
Martell Webster: 75/SF (Pos Rank 46, Ovr Rank 241)
Needs to have a breakout year but probably won't if Rudy is taking all his minutes. Could be the odd man out in the rotation otherwise.
Sergio Rodriguez: 74/PG (Pos Rank 57, Ovr Rank 270)
The only things keeping him from starting over Blake are his defense and 3pt shot. The only true backup PG on the team.
Jerryd Bayless: 73/PG (Pos Rank: 63, Ovr Rank 296)
Should be noted Bayless rates a 78 as a SG, which should illustrate how ill-suited to backing up Blake he'll be. But with Roy and Rudy set to get most of the SG minutes that won't happen. Bayless/Rudy/Roy lineups with Roy running point could become a staple (which is why I'm not high on Webster this year).
Ike Diogu: 73/PF (Pos Rank: 62, Ovr Rank 300)
Needs to have a good year or he'll be out of the league in two years. He'll need to capitalize on Frye's injury. Undersized PFs like Millsap and Craig Smith have done well with PT but Diogu hasn't been able to get the chances.
Raef LaFrentz: 72/C (Pos Rank: 64, Ovr Rank 351)
Losing his battle with injuries, his career is seemingly over. Would have provided great depth if healthy.
Nicolas Batum: 71/SF (Pos Rank: 70, Ovr Rank 366)
Hopes to show he can be the next Mickael Pietrus, something Portland could use. Too skinny for it to happen this year.
Luke Jackson: 70/SF (Pos Rank: 78, Ovr Rank 405)
Coming to camp with a non-guaranteed deal. Former lottery pick out of Oregon has talent to play in league but would have to outplay Martell Webster to get a roster spot. I expect center Steven Hill to get the 15th spot as injuries leave the Blazers a little thin up front to start the year (while Portland has no shortage of wing shooters at the moment).
It should go without saying that I have a deep knowledge of the NBA and am more than capable of intelligently expressing my views and justifying any rating changes. I have been doing it for 6 years and have a very high understanding of the ratings schemes 2k implements and how they correlate to game play. I don't know how long the current 2K Insider has been doing it, but chances are, nowhere near as long as I have. I've taken my share of criticism for ratings over the years and I know how to handle it - it remains to be seen how this unknown 2K Insider will react, if at all.
Actually, now that I think about it, the 2K Insider is the equivalent of a critic writing under a pen name. Ask who the producer or art design is and you'll find out. The 2K Insider at the moment is a mystery man with no identity - which means no accountability. (Quite the opposite of a public and accessable figure like myself)
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 09:30 AM
you info on Roy is wrong by the way
VirusSnake
September 18th, 2008, 09:32 AM
stop spamming a GAMING FORUM for a job application for a position that is probably already covered...
if you want to apply for a job send your application at the HR department of 2k :rolleyes:
Scuba
September 18th, 2008, 09:34 AM
^^actually sounds pretty goood. With Bayless and Fernandez there, you should see Roy at more versitile positions like running the 1 which he does have capabilities of doing. Handles, great size, scoring is not a problem for him. And of course at the 3, he still be able to defend get past slower and taller defenders, still has the ability to score.
Dont think what he said about Roy is wrong at all.
VirusSnake
September 18th, 2008, 09:36 AM
yes the point forward position is revolutionary
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 09:38 AM
Roy will not play SF this season he will occasionally play PG like he did much of last season but "should see plenty of time at SF or even as "point forward" is completely way off.. not only is Roy too small to defend the 3 he is injury prone and they will not want him to have to play closer to the basket where he could easily land on someone's foot and roll and ankle or something he will play the 1 & 2 just like last year.. with webster outlaw and even jackson assuming he makes the team playing the majority of the SF minutes..
volantPenguin
September 18th, 2008, 09:39 AM
I think Rashidi would be a great 2K Insider :thumbsup:
OkcThunder
September 18th, 2008, 09:41 AM
Why so many haters in here I have used Rashidi edits for years, he isnt just starting this to get a job now he has been doing this.
Smith146
September 18th, 2008, 09:42 AM
Roy will not play the 3, he is too small. He plays the 2 and sometimes the 1.
DOntHAteDaPlAyAHatEDaGAME
September 18th, 2008, 09:45 AM
If I had to choose the only two guys come to my mind is Rashidi and Nogster (From OS) for the person who I feel could perform well at this position. Rashidi u got my vote man, I been using ur ratings as a base to formulate my own ratings for a while so I know u know exactly what ur doing. I know u would keep us very much updated with each player.
ksuttonjr76
September 18th, 2008, 09:46 AM
Signed....:thumbsup:
To quote Katt Williams, "If you have 7 haters, then you need to figure out how to get 3 more before the end of the day."
Embrace the haters, Rashidi.
VirusSnake
September 18th, 2008, 09:47 AM
i dont hate but this isnt how you apply for a job
Scuba
September 18th, 2008, 09:48 AM
Good point about his injury prone and Portland not wanting that of course. But again, he has the capabilities to play 3 positions if needed or if things work out that way. Who knows, he might not need to play too close. He wont be posting or anything. he can simply play off screens and get past his defender by his dribbling skills. But again, the size matters, and he isnt as tall as LBJ or LO but still a threat for the defender if Roy indeed plays teh 3.
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 09:53 AM
Roy will not play SF this season he will occasionally play PG like he did much of last season but "should see plenty of time at SF or even as "point forward" is completely way off.. not only is Roy too small to defend the 3 he is injury prone and they will not want him to have to play closer to the basket where he could easily land on someone's foot and roll and ankle or something he will play the 1 & 2 just like last year.. with webster outlaw and even jackson assuming he makes the team playing the majority of the SF minutes..
1. Roy is listed at 6'6" and 229 lbs. While not the ideal size there are smaller players who have played the SF position. Andre Iguodala is 6'6 and 207.
2, A SF does not necessarily play closer to the basket, just ask Peja Stojakovic, Jason Kapono, Martell Webster, or even athletes like Mickael Pietrus and Kelenna Azubuike. Portland in particular takes far more jumpers than most teams and this would not change regardless of where Roy plays.
3. As I said in the post, Outlaw will be called upon for PF duty to start the year. Roy was already been called upon for similar duty last year in lineups with both Steve Blake and Jarrett Jack. Why would this year be any different? If anything there is an even bigger reason to play him at SF now, as Rudy and Bayless are much better SGs than said Jarrett Jack.
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 09:54 AM
Good point about his injury prone and Portland not wanting that of course. But again, he has the capabilities to play 3 positions if needed or if things work out that way. Who knows, he might not need to play too close. He wont be posting or anything. he can simply play off screens and get past his defender by his dribbling skills. But again, the size matters, and he isnt as tall as LBJ or LO but still a threat for the defender if Roy indeed plays teh 3.
i wasnt simply talking about offensively and of course he could score on 3s because of his speed advantage my main point was on the defensive side as other team would exploit his size disadvantage all day.. i mean if everyone got hurt then yes i guess he could play the 3 but I think that would be a worst case scenario.. As a blazer fan I wouldnt want to play him at the 3 I would much rather have him play the 2 and split time there with fernandez and bayless occasionally since they are both combo guards and then shift over to pg and play with either of those 2 in the back court..
Scuba
September 18th, 2008, 09:55 AM
1. Roy is listed at 6'6" and 229 lbs. While not the ideal size there are smaller players who have played the SF position. Andre Iguodala is 6'6 and 207.
2, A SF does not necessarily play closer to the basket, just ask Peja Stojakovic, Jason Kapono, Martell Webster, or even athletes like Mickael Pietrus and Kelenna Azubuike. Portland in particular takes far more jumpers than most teams and this would not change regardless of where Roy plays.
3. As I said in the post, Outlaw will be called upon for PF duty to start the year. Roy was already been called upon for similar duty last year in lineups with both Steve Blake and Jarrett Jack. Why would this year be any different? If anything there is an even bigger reason to play him at SF now, as Rudy and Bayless are much better SGs than said Jarrett Jack.
Haha good point. Funny, after my last post, i went straight to NBA.com and checked his stats. 6'6" 229lbs. not that big but like i said, good enough size to play the 3 and still be a threat.
Smith146
September 18th, 2008, 09:57 AM
Lets be honest here, how often did that ever happen with Roy playing the 3? Rarely ever and that will not change next season. How often to you see players like Kobe moving to the 3 who is bigger than Roy. Iggy is a hard comparison, the guy is built similar to how Artest can hang with a lot of PFs.
Scuba
September 18th, 2008, 09:59 AM
i wasnt simply talking about offensively and of course he could score on 3s because of his speed advantage my main point was on the defensive side as other team would exploit his size disadvantage all day.. i mean if everyone got hurt then yes i guess he could play the 3 but I think that would be a worst case scenario.. As a blazer fan I wouldnt want to play him at the 3 I would much rather have him play the 2 and split time there with fernandez and bayless occasionally since they are both combo guards and then shift over to pg and play with either of those 2 in the back court..
yeah, i know defensively, it kind of would be a disadvantage. He could also work on his defense and become a great defender and be able to stop taller adn bigger defenders just by his quickness with hands and his feet. But again you gotta look at the cup as being half filled when the defender who will be guarding Roy will have a disadvantage on the other end as well. So in a sense, win/lose situation IF they put Roy at teh 3. But again its just an options they possibly could explore. But yes, you will definatley see more time at the 2 for Roy than 3. Im just saying he has the capabilities to play all 3 positions and be good at it.
jhern87
September 18th, 2008, 10:01 AM
I don't agree with some of your ratings so I don't think you would be well suited for the position. I think once the game drops there will be several differences between your ratings and the ones in 2K9..
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 10:03 AM
well i thought it was you and i think its bull**** that its someone else. we disagree on some ratings but i don't think anyone has done this more consistently over the past 4-5 years than you.
omizie
September 18th, 2008, 10:03 AM
kobe is supposed to play the 3 alot this year actually with lamar playing alot of the 2 position.
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 10:03 AM
Roy by position
http://www.82games.com/0708/07POR5C.HTM
Roy's lineups
http://www.82games.com/0708/07POR5B.HTM
Did we mention James Jones is gone? Someone is gonna have to fill his minutes, and at 6'5 200 it sure ain't gonna be Rudy. The team subtracted a SF and added two guards. If they could play Outlaw exclusively at SF that would fill JJ's void, but they can't with Frye out (unless you're banking on Oden playing PF next to JP).
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 10:05 AM
Last year Roy played the 2 spot 85% of the time, the remaining 15% he split @ the 1 and the 3.. got the stats from 82games.com.. so Roy really has no history @ the 3
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 10:07 AM
luke jackson anyone??
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 10:09 AM
I think once the game drops there will be several differences between your ratings and the ones in 2K9..
Yes, but considering 2k's rating record, this is a good thing.
These are the people that left Brandon Roy and David West rated an 82 all season long. The same people that left Hedo Turkoglu a 77. The same people who haven't updated Jannero Pargo since they added him in NBA 2K5.
I don't agree with some of your ratings so I don't think you would be well suited for the position.
Is there ANYONE that you'd agree with 100%? I don't claim to be perfect, but I generally have the highest approval rating of anyone out there. If 90% of people agree with 90% of my ratings, well, you know...
postah
September 18th, 2008, 10:11 AM
i believe rashidi is the truth when it comes to the rosters. I tend to agree with a high percentage of his attribute update. You would have my vote brotha
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 10:19 AM
Last year Roy played the 2 spot 85% of the time the remaining 15% he split @ the 1 and the 2.. got the stats from 82games.com.. so Roy really has no history @ the 3
According to 82games, Roy played 10% of the Blazers SF minutes last year.
Check the links I posted.
PG
60% Blake
24% Jack
14% Rodriguez
0% Green
0% Roy
SG
59% Roy
34% Jack
4% Webster
1% Wafer
1% Rodriguez
0% Jones
0% Green
SF
48% Webster
30% Jones
10% Outlaw
10% Roy
0% Aldridge
0% Frye
0% Jack
0% Wafer
PF
48% Aldridge
44% Outlaw
4% Frye
1% Jones
0% Webster
0% LaFrentz
0% McRoberts
C
45% Przybilla
28% Frye
17% Aldridge
7% LaFrentz
0% Outlaw
0% McRoberts
Roy played as much SF last year as Travis Outlaw which should say something. Jack has been replaced by Bayless and Jones has been replaced by Fernandez. Fernandez cannot play the 3 (as he is small even for a 2) so it is only natural that Roy plays more minutes there, especially considering how much we are hearing from the coach that Rudy is going to get big minutes this year. He's not gonna get them at Roy's expense.
A player does not have to be at PG to run the offense. The Blazers are obviously not going to go small against LeBron however they can certainly get away with it when Wally Szczerbiak or Pavlovic is the SF as Roy wouldn't have a problem with either. Likewise he isn't likely to match up against Odom but there's no reason why Roy couldn't stick Luke Walton or Trevor Ariza or even Vlad Radmanovic (or Kobe, in Fisher/Vujacic/Kobe lineups). It's effectiveness will vary by the team and situation.
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 10:25 AM
those number are based off of the total of the portland team minutes not roys personal minutes. he played 70% of all the portland game minutes(if that makes sense) so if you adjust to to reflect his personal minutes you would get the numbers i got.. because if u go to the site it adds 59% +10%= 70% which as all the math majors know doesnt add up which means he infact played some time at pg but it was just less than 1% of portlands total pg minutes.. do the math.. im not your typical chump on here man..
VirusSnake
September 18th, 2008, 10:26 AM
HAHAHA you already have a debate about one player....
Steve the BOD
September 18th, 2008, 10:26 AM
Hey Rashidi,
I like your thoughts on Portland...though I would like to hear your thoughs on some other team's rosters that might not be so straight forward...like the Cavs, Indiana, or the Nets. If you can get to it thanks man...
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 10:32 AM
HAHAHA you already have a debate about one player....
He is right its not worth the time to sit here and debate.. But this all would be a moot point if he had played even 20% of his time @ sf.. but his sf times was minimal i dont care if you compare his numbers to outlaw.. you can easily say he played the sf postion 100 times more often than steve blake.. it wouldnt make a difference.. I mean if you drove your car to work 90% percent of the time and took the bus 10% of the time would you tell people you are going to be taking the bus alot this year or would you say i very rarely take the bus.. but i do!! haha
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 10:39 AM
those number are based off of the total of the portland team minutes
Exactly. And they indicate that Roy was the team's PG less than 1% of the time. He was the equivalent of the 5th string PG since all the other players who logged time were natural points. Whereas at SF he was tied with the 3rd string for minutes.
he infact played some time at pg but it was just less than 1% of portlands total pg minutes.
A team plays a minimum of 3,936 minutes per season. How much of that is "less than 1%"?
1% of that would be 39 minutes. Let's give Roy the benefit of the doubt and assume he played 0.7% of the minutes instead of say, 0.2%. That's 27 minutes out of nearly 4,000. Are you sure you did the math here?
do the math.. im not your typical chump on here man..
Roy played as much PG as Channing Frye and LaMarcus Aldridge played at SF. I'm not suggesting you're a chump, but if I told you either of those guys was a combo forward you'd be calling me one.
Roy's a SG/SF, not a SG/PG. He may not do the greatest job on Paul Pierce but he's certainly a lot more likely to face him than he is Rajon Rondo.
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 10:44 AM
once again that is the % of portlands time please adjust it to reflect his time on the court he obviously cant play any position if he is not in the game
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 10:52 AM
He is right its not worth the time to sit here and debate.. But this all would be a moot point if he had played even 20% of his time @ sf
10% is greater than 0%. If he's not a SF, he sure ain't a PG.
In 2006 Roy played 7% of Portland's PG minutes. That certainly wasn't 10%.
PG
62% Jack
19% Rodriguez
11% Dickau
7% Roy
SG
42% Roy
29% Dixon
10% Udoka
8% Jones
2% Rodriguez
1% Webster
I mean if you drove your car to work 90% percent of the time and took the bus 10% of the time would you tell people you are going to be taking the bus alot this year or would you say i very rarely take the bus.. but i do!! haha
And then the following year gas prices go up and you decide to take the bus 15% or 20% of the time. Circumstances change. Rudy and Bayless were not on the team in 2007 or 2006. They are NOW - which is why I say Roy will play more SF minutes. It's not really my opinion either, just the reality of their roster situation. I mean, are you suggesting the Blazers would rather play Martell Webster 35 mpg and play Rudy/Bayless 10 mpg each?
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 10:56 AM
fine man.. brandon roy play 2,792 minutes(espn.com) last year which was 70% of portlands total team minutes..which were atleast 3,936 which actually does work out to 70% roughly.. so lets use the 10% you keep bragging about without adjusting it down to his personal minutes played %.. so 10% of 2,792 = carry the one :) 279.2 minutes total played at the SF position.. which would equal to about 5.8 games (just divide 279.2 by 48 minutes( nba game length)) now lets divide that into the season.. ok are you with me rashidi?? we are going to divide 5.8 by 82 to get the percentage of actual of games he plays the sf position during the season.. and we get a whopping 7%.. so we can safely and mathematically say that Roy does not play the Sf that much.. which of course anyone who follows the blazers coulda told you without the math lesson..
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 11:04 AM
Brandon Roy: 89/SG (Pos Rank 7, Ovr Rank 30)
Top offensive player on the team, has PG ability, can defend 3 positions, should see plenty of time at SF or even as "point forward" with Bayless and Rudy around.
Definition of plenty(dictionary.com): http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plenty
PS i know this is a jerk move, but you said it yourself you arent perfect.. so why all the fuss just say my bad he might see a few more minutes at sf and be done with it.
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 11:09 AM
Rashidi- you started this thread to petition to be the 2kinsider... but i think it may have proven that you can in fact not be the 2kinsider.. the 2kinsider will have to be thick skinned as every 2k wannabe and 12 year old with a computer will be in here complaining about every single change that is made.. so lets just let it go...
Mods close this thread..
the croz 1027
September 18th, 2008, 11:12 AM
Go Future:)
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 11:14 AM
Go Future:)
Seriously man.. i had to do math.. terrible!! haha
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 11:14 AM
Hey Rashidi,
I like your thoughts on Portland...though I would like to hear your thoughs on some other team's rosters that might not be so straight forward...like the Cavs, Indiana, or the Nets. If you can get to it thanks man...
I don't have the time ATM to break each one down like I did Portland. Since you can check my guide for each player's ratings I'll just go over their position depth charts.
Cavs are the toughest to depict position wise. Wally and Sasha are SG/SF who obviously don't get much SF time with LeBron around. LeBron played some PF last year with Marshall hurt and Varejao holding out to start the year but didn't really have to once they brought brought in Wallace and Smith. Delonte West can also log some SG time so I'm not sure where that leaves the team's only natural 2, Tarence Kinsey. The front court is pretty straight forward with a 3 man rotation of Ilgauskas/Wallace/Varejao with Hickson picking up the scraps.
Pacers have a pretty straight forward team, Ford/Jack/Diener at PG with Tinsley riding the inactive list til he gets traded/waived, Dunleavy/Daniels/Rush at SG, Granger/Williams/Graham at SF, Murphy/Baston/McRoberts at PF, Nesterovic/Foster/Hibbert at C. They have some flexibility and will look to employ small ball lineups, with Granger moving over to the 4 spot. O'Brien loves 3's so don't be surprised to see Murphy getting run at center (not sure how plodders like Rasho and Hibbert fit on this team).
Nets are an interesting mix. They could use a 3rd PG as Harris and Dooling are hardly natural points. They are loaded with young bigs who deserve/need to play. Yi/Sean at PF, Brook/Boone at C. That still leaves Stromile Swift who isn't great but is better than Sean Williams right now, and Najera who is the only one that could guard a quicker combo forward type like a Rashard Lewis. And of course they still have Vince who unfortunately would probably have to average 25 for this team to compete. This is a team building for the future and they have no long term committments other than Harris and Carter. Harris PG skills are going to be tested as the team has many players who need to be set up to score.
OkcThunder
September 18th, 2008, 11:16 AM
fine man.. brandon roy play 2,792 minutes(espn.com) last year which was 70% of portlands total team minutes..which were atleast 3,936 which actually does work out to 70% roughly.. so lets use the 10% you keep bragging about without adjusting it down to his personal minutes played %.. so 10% of 2,792 = carry the one :) 279.2 minutes total played at the SF position.. which would equal to about 5.8 games (just divide 279.2 by 48 minutes( nba game length)) now lets divide that into the season.. ok are you with me rashidi?? we are going to divide 5.8 by 82 to get the percentage of actual of games he plays the sf position during the season.. and we get a whopping 7%.. so we can safely and mathematically say that Roy does not play the Sf that much.. which of course anyone who follows the blazers coulda told you without the math lesson..
Just stop goodness Rashidi is better than u get it thru ur head, why hate?
OkcThunder
September 18th, 2008, 11:17 AM
Go Future:)
I think this is Futures alt account lol
DOntHAteDaPlAyAHatEDaGAME
September 18th, 2008, 11:18 AM
Rashidi- you started this thread to petition to be the 2kinsider... but i think it may have proven that you can in fact not be the 2kinsider.. the 2kinsider will have to be thick skinned as every 2k wannabe and 12 year old with a computer will be in here complaining about every single change that is made.. so lets just let it go...
Mods close this thread..
......OUCH!!!
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 11:20 AM
Just stop goodness Rashidi is better than u get it thru ur head, why hate?
Not hating at all... and by no means am i trying to be "better" than Rashidi at player ratings.. I give him credit for taking the time to do all of these things.. they serve their purpose and some like and agree with him and others don't.. this is all just a simple discussion between 2 bright individuals who enjoy basketball enough to even have this "argument"
and no.. croz 1027 or whatever isnt my alt account.. he is actual someone from one of my leagues..
OKC are you rashidis alt account?? haha j/k
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Rashidi- you started this thread to petition to be the 2kinsider... but i think it may have proven that you can in fact not be the 2kinsider.. the 2kinsider will have to be thick skinned as every 2k wannabe and 12 year old with a computer will be in here complaining about every single change that is made.. so lets just let it go...
On the contrary, I'm showing my skin to be quite thick right now! Rather than return your insults, I am showing you where my reasoning came from and why I made the decisions that I have. Listening to what people say and responding has made me a stronger editor over time, and I also believe it's made me more respected as my fans KNOW I have my reasons and they are all well thought out. The truth is I have likely been watching the NBA longer than you have been on the planet Earth. Rather than tell you flat out I know more than you do, I have gone at great length to help you understand where I am coming from (and perhaps even further your own NBA knowledge in the process).
Mods close this thread..
If you don't like the topic, nothing is forcing you to visit it or respond to it. Except my charm, of course. :)
bigfnjoe96
September 18th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Rashidi all the best on your mission to be the 2K Insider... You have my support :thumbsup:
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 11:36 AM
On the contrary, I'm showing my skin to be quite thick right now! Rather than return your insults, I am showing you where my reasoning came from and why I made the decisions that I have. Listening to what people say and responding has made me a stronger editor over time, and I also believe it's made me more respected as my fans KNOW I have my reasons and they are all well thought out. The truth is I have likely been watching the NBA longer than you have been on the planet Earth. Rather than tell you flat out I know more than you do, I have gone at great length to help you understand where I am coming from (and perhaps even further your own NBA knowledge in the process).
If you don't like the topic, nothing is forcing you to visit it or respond to it. Except my charm, of course. :)
whoa whoa.. further my knowledge?? you didnt even prove me wrong let alone show that you know more.. all you have on me is that more people on here know you and give you more credibility and because of this they think i am hating on you.. so as far as showing me how you are right and teaching me.. i still dont see how you are right and infact can argue that i am right all day long.. i dont think either of us are right or wrong in this argument.. you are very opinionated and are assuming alot in regards to myself and probably the people reading this thread.. just because you have more posts doesnt mean that you are a) older than me b) know more about the nba or c) are smarter than i am.
I mean in the end none of this matters people will read and maybe comment after all thats the whole point of this farum.. my main problem was that you started this "petition" yourself for yourself.. wouldnt it look better if the "people of 2k" petitioned on your behalf instead of the other way around..
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 11:40 AM
fine man.. brandon roy play 2,792 minutes(espn.com) last year which was 70% of portlands total team minutes..which were atleast 3,936 which actually does work out to 70% roughly.. so lets use the 10% you keep bragging about without adjusting it down to his personal minutes played %.. so 10% of 2,792 = carry the one :) 279.2 minutes total played at the SF position.. which would equal to about 5.8 games (just divide 279.2 by 48 minutes( nba game length)) now lets divide that into the season.. ok are you with me rashidi??
Okay.... we're talking 27 minutes versus 279 minutes.
Divide 27 minutes into the season.
Two of Rudy's top 10 lineups include him at SF. That's not a lot. But you make it sound like none of his top 10 lineups include him at SF, when that isn't the case.
so we can safely and mathematically say that Roy does not play the Sf that much
In 2007. Without Jerryd Bayless or Rudy Fernandez. Hence why I said he SHOULD play more minutes at SF, not that he DID
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/should
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/did
Sorry, couldn't resist :)
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 11:44 AM
Definition of plenty(dictionary.com): http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plenty
PS i know this is a jerk move, but you said it yourself you arent perfect.. so why all the fuss just say my bad he might see a few more minutes at sf and be done with it.
you just corrected yourself "should not did" thats what i was telling you to change.. thanks for proving me correct
Reading is fundamental ha ha
not spelling!! haha
Detroitgamer
September 18th, 2008, 11:46 AM
all i have to say is that dreams shatter my friend.
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 11:47 AM
Okay.... we're talking 27 minutes versus 279 minutes.
Divide 27 minutes into the season.
Two of Rudy's top 10 lineups include him at SF. That's not a lot. But you make it sound like none of his top 10 lineups include him at SF, when that isn't the case.
In 2007. Without Jerryd Bayless or Rudy Fernandez. Hence why I said he SHOULD play more minutes at SF, not that he DID
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/should
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/did
Sorry, couldn't resist :)
why are you talking about Rudy?? Rudys top lineups?? you make no sense
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 11:48 AM
all you have on me is that more people on here know you and give you more credibility and because of this they think i am hating on you.
1. I've been doing this six years. People know me.
2. If you're not hating, what exactly is your posting agenda? I think mine is pretty clear.
just because you have more posts doesnt mean that you are a) older than me b) know more about the nba or c) are smarter than i am.
So... how old are you, how long have you been watching the NBA, and how smart are you?
my main problem was that you started this "petition" yourself for yourself.. wouldnt it look better if the "people of 2k" petitioned on your behalf instead of the other way around..
You're right. While we're at it, let's wait for Bush to petition to send the troops home. Wouldn't that be swell? :)
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 11:49 AM
why are you talking about Rudy?? Rudys top lineups?? you make no sense
because both jerryd bayless and rudy fernandez will play minutes at shooting guard this year, and since you don't want to put roy on the bench for all of them you can only assume he'll slide over to the 3.
VirusSnake
September 18th, 2008, 11:52 AM
lol rashidi will you be fighting like a kid when you get the job?
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 11:53 AM
haha wow this is what it boils down to??
How old are you?
How smart are you?
How long have you been watching the nba??
Wow... i could answer those.. but people might think i am lying so i will answer in the following manner.
How old are you? old enough
How smart are you? smarter than you! haha
How long have you been watching the nba? Long enough
ksuttonjr76
September 18th, 2008, 11:54 AM
whoa whoa.. further my knowledge?? you didnt even prove me wrong let alone show that you know more.. all you have on me is that more people on here know you and give you more credibility and because of this they think i am hating on you.. so as far as showing me how you are right and teaching me.. i still dont see how you are right and infact can argue that i am right all day long.. i dont think either of us are right or wrong in this argument.. you are very opinionated and are assuming alot in regards to myself and probably the people reading this thread.. just because you have more posts doesnt mean that you are a) older than me b) know more about the nba or c) are smarter than i am.
I mean in the end none of this matters people will read and maybe comment after all thats the whole point of this farum.. my main problem was that you started this "petition" yourself for yourself.. wouldnt it look better if the "people of 2k" petitioned on your behalf instead of the other way around..
Man, you're way overcomplicating this argument. To simplify it, Brandon is projected to play more time at the SF, based on the fact he has played some minutes at the spot, and due to the acquistion of Bayless and Rudy. That's all Rashidi is saying. Brandon's natural position is SG, but can play SF due to his size/speed/skills. In other words, he can potentionally adapt to the position without sacrificing his talents, while drawing on the strengths of Bayless at the SG (he's not ready to play PG full time), and Rudy at the PG (or whoever they decide to go with).
2K Admin Ron
September 18th, 2008, 11:54 AM
Rashidi, I have followed you closely. You do an awesome job with rankings, etc. And maybe next year, I will petition for a 2K Sports community member to become the next insider. But the job is taken, he's ready to roll!
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 11:55 AM
you just corrected yourself "should not did" thats what i was telling you to change.. thanks for proving me correct
Brandon Roy: 89/SG (Pos Rank 7, Ovr Rank 30)
Top offensive player on the team, has PG ability, can defend 3 positions, should see plenty of time at SF or even as "point forward" with Bayless and Rudy around.
Reading is fundamental ha ha
...ohhhhhhhkayyyyyyy
why are you talking about Rudy?? Rudys top lineups?? you make no sense
Typo for Roy. Two of Roy's top 10 lineups were with him at SF, and this is before they added Rudy (and subtracted Jones, for that matter).
VirusSnake
September 18th, 2008, 11:56 AM
Rashidi, I have followed you closely. You do an awesome job with rankings, etc. And maybe next year, I will petition for a 2K Sports community member to become the next insider. But the job is taken, he's ready to roll!
i ve said that the position is covered for the past 6 pages lol :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 11:57 AM
because both jerryd bayless and rudy fernandez will play minutes at shooting guard this year, and since you don't want to put roy on the bench for all of them you can only assume he'll slide over to the 3.
thats not what he was referring to i am pretty sure he meant to put roy, he was talking about roys top lineups.. please read all the posts i already agreed that he was going to play more @ the 3 but not "plenty" i am thinking we will see only a small increase. people are assuming that rudy and bayless are going to play 20 minutes a night or something.. remember they are rookies.. honestly i can see bayless playing 20 maybe but not fernandez.. he has talent but must adjust to the nba game
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 11:57 AM
Lets be honest here, how often did that ever happen with Roy playing the 3? Rarely ever and that will not change next season. How often to you see players like Kobe moving to the 3 who is bigger than Roy. Iggy is a hard comparison, the guy is built similar to how Artest can hang with a lot of PFs.
Whenever the Lakers play Vujacic and Kobe at the same time Kobe IS playing the 3. And that happens all the time.
Smith146
September 18th, 2008, 12:00 PM
Whenever the Lakers play Vujacic and Kobe at the same time Kobe IS playing the 3. And that happens all the time.
No, not at all. I'm a Laker fan and I know plenty about that. That line up didn't happen until the very end of the season and more so in the playoffs. Like I said, Kobe rarely played the 3 and if you look at the whole season as a comparison than it is hardly ever.
leroyhk
September 18th, 2008, 12:01 PM
Sorry dude, I loved your job, and knew that you're talented. But like what Ron said, you are too late this time, come and try again next year :)
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 12:02 PM
Man, you're way overcomplicating this argument. To simplify it, Brandon is projected to play more time at the SF, based on the fact he has played some minutes at the spot, and due to the acquistion of Bayless and Rudy. That's all Rashidi is saying. Brandon's natural position is SG, but can play SF due to his size/speed/skills. In other words, he can potentionally adapt to the position without sacrificing his talents, while drawing on the strengths of Bayless at the SG (he's not ready to play PG full time), and Rudy at the PG (or whoever they decide to go with).
Man I know what you mean and infact told Rashidi that Roy was going to get some more PT at the 3.. but I simply said that playing him @ the 3 would not be for the best and that he should play most of his time in the back court.. everyone also is projecting fernandez to be a contributor this year and i think that is a stretch.. between blake, bayless, roy the pg/sg minutes will be used up with rudy "picking up the scraps" as Rashidi likes to put it
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 12:03 PM
those number are based off of the total of the portland team minutes not roys personal minutes. he played 70% of all the portland game minutes(if that makes sense) so if you adjust to to reflect his personal minutes you would get the numbers i got.. because if u go to the site it adds 59% +10%= 70% which as all the math majors know doesnt add up which means he infact played some time at pg but it was just less than 1% of portlands total pg minutes.. do the math.. im not your typical chump on here man..
yeah but it shows you were wrong about him splitting all his minutes between pg and shooting guard. you must be a republican because you say you checked the stats then it turns out your wrong, and rather then admit it you attack him a different way.
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 12:03 PM
Rashidi, I have followed you closely. You do an awesome job with rankings, etc. And maybe next year, I will petition for a 2K Sports community member to become the next insider. But the job is taken, he's ready to roll!
Thanks for the info Ronnie, that's only going to motivate me for the coming year.
I should make clear that I'm not petitioning to take HIS job, as he obviously has a contract and it's pretty clear that the Insider plan isn't something that the company came up with a few days ago. He's pretty ingrained in the process and deserves to prove he can/can't handle the job before we all crucify him. I have a deep love for this company and will do whatever possible to help it succeed by any means necessary. It's obviously not realistic to expect to be added to the dev team two weeks before launch (nor was I expecting that to happen) but throwing my name in the hat for future purposes certainly can't hurt.
ksuttonjr76
September 18th, 2008, 12:06 PM
thats not what he was referring to i am pretty sure he meant to put roy, he was talking about roys top lineups.. please read all the posts i already agreed that he was going to play more @ the 3 but not "plenty" i am thinking we will see only a small increase. people are assuming that rudy and bayless are going to play 20 minutes a night or something.. remember they are rookies.. honestly i can see bayless playing 20 maybe but not fernandez.. he has talent but must adjust to the nba game
If that's the case, then who's expected to get the majority of the mins at the PG? Either it's going to be two PG sharing the mins, or Bayless will slide to the PG while sliding Brandon to the SG. At that point, you're forcing Bradon to play a lot of overall mins, while running a risk of trying to make Bayless learn two positions.
2K Admin Ron
September 18th, 2008, 12:09 PM
You know what, BL had a really good idea. I'll have you e-mail me your thoughts on ratings on a weekly basis (when I figure out what day he's going to discuss, and I will forward them to the Insider. I am sure he could take some community though on that and maybe it's something you guys can all collaboratively discuss on the forums. What do you all think?
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 12:10 PM
yeah but it shows you were wrong about him splitting all his minutes between pg and shooting guard. you must be a republican because you say you checked the stats then it turns out your wrong, and rather then admit it you attack him a different way.
The fact remains that roy played most of his time @ the guard position pg/sg which is my entire point if you go back and read i wrote that he and the team is better served with roy in the backcourt..
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 12:11 PM
Seriously man.. i had to do math.. terrible!! haha
you're an idiot and your math is faulty, and Rahsidi said Roy should see plenty of minutes at small foward this season. SHOULD see and THIS season being the key words. You said Roy will never play small forward, he said he has, and you used faulty math to prove that he didn't play small forward that much, even though you lied and said he played only SG and PG. Only you and that other moron detroit gamer(if its not you then i'm sorry) think you are winning this argument, when people who understand facts and logic get annoyed reading your posts.
rudeworld
September 18th, 2008, 12:13 PM
hey ron is the Insider Stephen A. Smith? lol
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 12:13 PM
he will not see Plenty of minutes this season @ sf. i never said that he will never play sf..
Also chessboxer.. i used the numbers that rashidi gave in the thread.. go back and read the thread
ksuttonjr76
September 18th, 2008, 12:13 PM
Man I know what you mean and infact told Rashidi that Roy was going to get some more PT at the 3.. but I simply said that playing him @ the 3 would not be for the best and that he should play most of his time in the back court.. everyone also is projecting fernandez to be a contributor this year and i think that is a stretch.. between blake, bayless, roy the pg/sg minutes will be used up with rudy "picking up the scraps" as Rashidi likes to put it
However, Fernandez and Blake are more natural PG than Brandon/Bayless. For team chemistry, isn't it not easier to play new players to one role versus trying to get to learn multiple roles? Bayless may be a combo guard, but his quickness and skills would be better utilized at the SG rather leading the league in turnovers. Only a handful of combo guard players has had success playing PG as a rookie. That's the reason why they got Fernandez in the first place.
wachamp
September 18th, 2008, 12:14 PM
I would like to see you in that position too Rashidi. I have followed your stat adjustments for many years also. Anyone with any sense, knowledge of how much consentration this takes, and has actually followed your work knows that you deserve this position. If not, at least a hand in the project. You have my vote anyday.
bigpearl
September 18th, 2008, 12:16 PM
Tell you the truth when i first heard of the insider i thought it was Rashidi,so i guess i was wrong.
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 12:18 PM
Last year Roy played the 2 spot 85% of the time the remaining 15% he split @ the 1 and the 2.. got the stats from 82games.com.. so Roy really has no history @ the 3
explain
you said you could argue you were right all day, how can people trust what you have to say when you either lied about the above stats or aren't smart enough to read them properly?
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 12:18 PM
No, not at all. I'm a Laker fan and I know plenty about that. That line up didn't happen until the very end of the season and more so in the playoffs. Like I said, Kobe rarely played the 3 and if you look at the whole season as a comparison than it is hardly ever.
Kobe 2008
SG 60%
SF 20%
Top lineups
6. Farmar-Vujacic-Bryant-Odom-Turiaf
8. Farmar-Vujacic-Bryant-Walton-Turiaf
9. Farmar-Vujacic-Bryant-Odom-Gasol
(A quarter of his minutes were at SF, which obviously doesn't constitute "hardly ever".)
Kobe 2007
SG 45%
SF 31%
Top lineups
5. Parker-Evans-Bryant-Odom-Bynum
9. Parker-Evans-Bryant-Cook-Bynum
10. Parker-Evans-Bryant-Odom-Turiaf
(40% of Kobe's minutes came at SF the year prior. One third of his minutes have come at SF over the last two seasons)
Kobe 2006
SG 72%
SF 9%
Top lineups
10. Parker-Vujacic-Bryant-Odom-Mihm
(1/9th is a bit closer to "hardly" than 1/4th or 2/5th).
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 12:18 PM
However, Fernandez and Blake are more natural PG than Brandon/Bayless. For team chemistry, isn't it not easier to play new players to one role versus trying to get to learn multiple roles? Bayless may be a combo guard, but his quickness and skills would be better utilized at the SG rather leading the league in turnovers. Only a handful of combo guard players has had success playing PG as a rookie. That's the reason why they got Fernandez in the first place.
I agree 100% that is why they got fernandez.. but this is his first year.. if you were to ask me about next year then yes i would say that rudy might even start next year.. with bayless backing up roy and occasionally fillin it at pg.. but we are talking about this year and which player is more nba ready now.. and that player is bayless also just because bayless will be playing the pg position doesnt mean he will be handling the ball.. last year jack played the 1 but roy handled the ball and initiated the offense from the 2 spot..
shadio3
September 18th, 2008, 12:19 PM
i dont know..im a bit sketchy of letting a LOCAL call the shots when it comes to ratings and all..hope this all falls in place........and then letting people vote, with these yougins wanting crossovers & off the wall moves makes me a bit nervous..
VC/2k sports fan
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 12:21 PM
last year jack played the 1 but roy handled the ball and initiated the offense from the 2 spot..
Do you mean 2007 or 2008? Because Steve Blake played most of the PG minutes last year and he initiates the offense quite a bit more than Jack. Also, you are not taking into account Sergio Rodriguez, he is going to get some PT during the season also.
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 12:23 PM
Do you mean 2007 or 2008? Because Steve Blake played most of the PG minutes last year and he initiates the offense quite a bit more than Jack. Also, you are not taking into account Sergio Rodriguez, he is going to get some PT during the season also.
i wasnt making a blanket statement about the whole season i was talking to ksutton about rudy's role on the team this year and how bayless could play a similar role to what jack played on the team..
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 12:27 PM
those number are based off of the total of the portland team minutes not roys personal minutes. he played 70% of all the portland game minutes(if that makes sense) so if you adjust to to reflect his personal minutes you would get the numbers i got.. because if u go to the site it adds 59% +10%= 70% which as all the math majors know doesnt add up which means he infact played some time at pg but it was just less than 1% of portlands total pg minutes.. do the math.. im not your typical chump on here man..
lets do the math shall we:
According to the info above Roy played 70% of the Blazers minutes,
so 70% of Portland's minutes = 100% of Roy's minutes.
70/100 = .7 , so to get the % equivalent of roy's minutes from the info above we divide the numbers by .7
example roy played 59% of Portland's sg minutes so he played (59/.7) 84% of his minutes at sg
roy played 10% of Portland's minutes at SF so he played 14% of his minutes at SF.
14+84= 98 ( i know it shouldn't be exactly 98 but basically i'm rounding down which doesn't help my arguement)
so in reality less than 2 percent of Roy's minutes where spent at PG. true he ran the offense alot, but it was from the SG position with a PG on the floor. so you're numbers can possibly be seen as write if you mistakenly(or intentionally) confused his SF minutes for his PG minutes.
JO2TO
September 18th, 2008, 12:28 PM
Rashidi, I really don't think you should become the 2K Inside because I'd simply just stop playing the game knowing that a fat kid that has no grammer is writing the report for my game. You seriously need to lose some weight because I'm guessing you're on the forums all day long. So my persuasion is that you would make a seriously "Garbagio" 2K Insider for this game.
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 12:31 PM
I agree 100% that is why they got fernandez.. but this is his first year.. if you were to ask me about next year then yes i would say that rudy might even start next year.. with bayless backing up roy and occasionally fillin it at pg.. but we are talking about this year and which player is more nba ready now.. and that player is bayless also just because bayless will be playing the pg position doesnt mean he will be handling the ball.. last year jack played the 1 but roy handled the ball and initiated the offense from the 2 spot..
so now confronted with facts and reason you're backing off you're original points?
BrooklynNets24
September 18th, 2008, 12:32 PM
signed because you just took a dump all over future and the haters on this thread
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Last year Roy played the 2 spot 85% of the time, the remaining 15% he split @ the 1 and the 3.. got the stats from 82games.com.. so Roy really has no history @ the 3
Chessbox this is what i got.. but i rounded up
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 12:35 PM
so now confronted with facts and reason you're backing off you're original points?
what?? that has nothing to do with the roy at sf argument.. me and ksutton are talking about something different..
JO2TO
September 18th, 2008, 12:36 PM
If anything, I should become recieve the spot as the 2K Insider because I have a lot of knowledge about basketball and I also live in Canada so I will include the Raptors in my releases as much as any other team no matter how bad or good they are doing.
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 12:37 PM
If anything, I should become recieve the spot as the 2K Insider because I have a lot of knowledge about basketball and I also live in Canada so I will include the Raptors in my releases as much as any other team no matter how bad or good they are doing.
haha, so Jamario Moon would make an appearance at some point?
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 12:38 PM
i wasnt making a blanket statement about the whole season i was talking to ksutton about rudy's role on the team this year and how bayless could play a similar role to what jack played on the team..
And this is the part where you reluctantly agree with me.
Bayless is taking Jack's role. Jack was the primary backup at both guard spots, and in fact played twice as much time at the 2 than the 1.
Rudy Fernandez, he is taking James Jones role as the energy/3pt wing off the bench. Rudy is no SF. The only way Rudy can get the PT he deserves is unless Roy is logging more SF minutes. There is no way with Blake/Bayless/Rodriguez at PG and Roy/Bayless at SG.
Realistic minute allotment
PG: Blake (27 mpg), Bayless (13 mpg), Rodriguez (8 mpg) = 48
SG: Roy (25 mpg), Rudy (18 mpg), Bayless (5 mpg) = 48
SF: Webster (25 mpg), Outlaw (13 mpg), Roy (10 mpg)
PF: Aldridge (30 mpg), Outlaw (18 mpg)
C: Oden (28 mpg), Przybilla (18 mpg), Aldridge (2 mpg)
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't get Rudy close to 20 mpg unless you limit Roy's SG minutes. The only SF on the team right now is Webster because Outlaw is going to log any PF minutes Aldridge doesn't.
JO2TO
September 18th, 2008, 12:42 PM
haha, so Jamario Moon would make an appearance at some point?
yes he will
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 12:43 PM
Chessbox this is what i got.. but i rounded up
my bad, didn't see the 1 and the 3 part i guess you were actually right. you just neglected to say how much of that time was at the 1 and how much was at the 3. Just make sure in the future when you post stats you don't obscure them to make your point, and you have the integrity to say i guess i was wrong about how much he played at this position.
i'm not a rashidi fanboy or anything (no offense rashidi) i just hate when people knowingly fuzz stats to get their point across.
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 12:43 PM
And this is the part where you reluctantly agree with me.
Bayless is taking Jack's role. Jack was the primary backup at both guard spots, and in fact played twice as much time at the 2 than the 1.
Rudy Fernandez, he is taking James Jones role as the energy/3pt wing off the bench. Rudy is no SF. The only way Rudy can get the PT he deserves is unless Roy is logging more SF minutes. There is no way with Blake/Bayless/Rodriguez at PG and Roy/Bayless at SG.
Realistic minute allotment
PG: Blake (27 mpg), Bayless (13 mpg), Rodriguez (8 mpg) = 48
SG: Roy (25 mpg), Rudy (18 mpg), Bayless (5 mpg) = 48
SF: Webster (25 mpg), Outlaw (13 mpg), Roy (10 mpg)
PF: Aldridge (30 mpg), Outlaw (18 mpg)
C: Oden (28 mpg), Przybilla (18 mpg), Aldridge (2 mpg)
This is exactly what I'm talking about. You can't get Rudy close to 20 mpg unless you limit Roy's SG minutes. The only SF on the team right now is Webster because Outlaw is going to log any PF minutes Aldridge doesn't.
rudy is not taking james jones role.. webster will be loggin more minutes this year.. he and outlaw will play most of the minutes @ Sf.. i do agree that bayless is taking jacks role.. but i still do not agree that Roy will get "plenty" of minutes per game at the SF position.. This is a never ending argument.. due to the frye injury he may see more time at the 3 than the team wants him to at the begining of the season, but barring any other injury that will only be temporary.. in the end we will see Roy's sf minutes end up being very similar to this years totals..
Future 23
September 18th, 2008, 12:45 PM
my bad, didn't see the 1 and the 3 part i guess you were actually right. you just neglected to say how much of that time was at the 1 and how much was at the 3. Just make sure in the future when you post stats you don't obscure them to make your points, and you have the integrity to say i guess i was wrong about how much he played at this position.
i'm not a rashidi fanboy or anything (no offense rashidi) i just hate when people knowingly fuzz stats to get their point across.
i feel you its cool, i am not hating on rashidi i guess we are just arguing the same point we both agree he will play sf but dont agree on how much.. he says plenty i say as little as possible.. but if due to injury or foul trouble he has to play sf this year, then he will. just like last year
BrooklynNets24
September 18th, 2008, 12:48 PM
some people just dont give up...
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 12:50 PM
i feel you its cool, i am not hating on rashidi i guess we are just arguing the same point we both agree he will play sf but dont agree on how much.. he says plenty i say as little as possible.. but if due to injury or foul trouble he has to play sf this year, then he will. just like last year
i agree, as far as starting lineups go i'd say Roy at the three is a bad idea. however in real life there are a lot of times when teams play small, big whatever and you do have three guards on the floor or even two PF's (although rarely) on the floor together. if its a matchup problem then know they won't do it, but since Roy plays alot, if they want to play rudy fernandez or bayless significant minutes then it won't be at the expense of sacrificing Roy's.
chessboxer1
September 18th, 2008, 12:51 PM
some people just dont give up...
this is better then a "When is the demo coming out?" complaint post
if we can't argue about sports then what is the point of watching them (besides betting of course)
BrooklynNets24
September 18th, 2008, 12:53 PM
this is better then a "When is the demo coming out?" complaint post
if we can't argue about sports then what is the point of watching them (besides betting of course)meh you got a good point
DARKSPACE
September 18th, 2008, 01:05 PM
I honestly don't care about petitions done online of any kind, unless somehow it eventually involves me in receiving a refund check in my mail box. Other than that I don't care who is doing the 2Kinsider. What I do care about is this will take more than one person solid opinion as you can plainly see within this thread. And like others have already mentioned, I also don't see it fitting you are posting a Hire Me in a NBA forum, instead of going about it in a professional manner. But hey I guess you are doing you. Plus Ron already left his comment, on here. by saying the job is taken, He'll keep an eye out for you if need be, and send him a email or something of that nature. Other than that this should really be moved to the Site & Suggestion forum.
The bottomline is I don't care if they hire this Rashidi guy or someone else like a true NBA official statistician. All I would like is to see is maybe more than one individual or a group of 2K insiders, that can properly behave and have open discussusions on a round table then inturn provide us with the information we sorely need. So in the end this will be a blessing for all of 2Ksports, its consumers and this public 2Ksports website.
KURT2134
September 18th, 2008, 01:05 PM
wow you made a really long faq that nobody ever reads good job!!!!
you are very good at wasting your time
Nobody ever reads? Speak for yourself or better yet, don't speak at all. I can't even count how many times I've used one of Rashidi's FAQs over the years. He's very good at what he does and does it to help us out. Instead of saying stupid sh** you should thank him. I do agree that this could have been handled a little more professional but like I said he does it all to help us out.
brebre82
September 18th, 2008, 01:19 PM
Wow I don't know about other teams, but you did a horrid job on the Raps. I saw your tweaks to CB, TJ and JC and I just stopped looking.
Bosh: No accessories? Sig shot is off, anyone who watches bosh knows he Knock Knees, 3pt 76??
TJ: 85???? LOL
JC: Speed down? Sig shot is Snow, not sideflick
Well, I guess what i am saying is that you are biting off more than you can chew. I want someone who actually watches raptor basketball, not some utility guy who is sporadically accurate. Just cause you did an extensive FAQ doesn't make you the man for the job. And yea, it's pretty shameless to henceforth spam this forum with your 'resume'
BrooklynNets24
September 18th, 2008, 01:27 PM
are you saying Tj diserves more or less than an 85
brebre82
September 18th, 2008, 01:50 PM
I don't even think he deserves an 80
ibe3zy
September 18th, 2008, 02:02 PM
man i like your ratings but some of the star players are overrated.
Like......the typical overrated players over again,The same mistake that 2k makes
man no one should go higher than 97 when it comes to overall since it makes the game unfair and the players like kobe and wade wont be able to miss
Chris Paul 97???
Duncan99?
KG?????a 98???
Dirk shouldnt be rated over amare 96 to 95.Dirk is soft
Lebron 97?96 is more appropriate save that for kobe
Reduce kobe to 97
i like your ratings for the supporting players i just can never agree that a player should be over 97 or the game will not be fair.People can take kobe and shoot at random
hulyan
September 18th, 2008, 02:15 PM
rashidi bro you have my support. did you ever come out with a transcript of rookies ratings?
IVODEM
September 18th, 2008, 02:19 PM
I don't have a problem with you being it at all, but if they can get someone who has been working with the NBA and Video Game Ratings a lot longer than you then If I was 2k I would go that route...
mcgradybunch
September 18th, 2008, 02:20 PM
This is the position I was born to fill for 2K Sports. It's been a dream of mine, and now that the position actually exists, it's time to make it a reality.
If you aren't aware of the topic...
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/sports/nba2k9/news.html?sid=6197851
I've been putting out the most accurate ratings for the last six years now, always keeping up to date throughout the season. All of the top downloadable rosters use my ratings as a base. If I told people I were the 2K Insider, they would probably believe me. This season my work will be downloadable via 2K Share at the click of a button, without the need of a transfer kit. With weekly updates. And then we'll get to see how happy the fans are with Mr. Insider : )
My 2k8 player edit guide can be found @ http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/xbox360/file/939852/52393
There have been many updates since then as I gear up for the release of 2k9.
As a vet in these boards and since using your rosters since 2k3, YOU GOT MY SUPPORT BROTHA...2k, hire this man please.
jayrivera3
September 18th, 2008, 02:23 PM
I thought this thread was for the purpose of getting Rashidi's foot in the door of 2K's empire. It turned out to be a debate on where Brandon Roy did, will, or could have spent his minutes at. I thought that was funny but...
Well...I was going to the 2Ksports website and all of a sudden I see the thread "Petition for Rashidi to be the 2K Insider". I was like what is going on in here? Because I thought Rashidi WAS the 2K Insider. I was like...noooooooooo!!! What about changing it to the 2K Insiders? Na. That doesn't sound as good as the 2K Insider.
I would like to see Rashidi's name on a 2K basketball title in the near future.
Kobe24Ballin
September 18th, 2008, 02:25 PM
THis is getting ridculous, seriously. <<< ALL I GOTTA SAY
Stilesy
September 18th, 2008, 02:31 PM
I'll sign it. Been using Rashidi's edits since 2k5. I don't even try to start a season before I can get the 'real' roster update. When I read about the Insider I actually thought this has Rashidi written all over it.
JAPPASWAT
September 18th, 2008, 02:36 PM
radishi you get a vote from me. from a ps3 user and i think you are legit. keep up the good work regardless because you got supporters
Free bonds
September 18th, 2008, 02:46 PM
Honestly when I heard of the 2k Insider position the first person I thought of was Rashidi. Anybody that actually plays 2k and digs deep into the culture of videogame basketball should know who Rashidi is. On that note, you have my vote.
peterfn216
September 18th, 2008, 02:47 PM
yeah...u have my vote too. Youre probably the most dedicated member of this board. You make the rosters for the 360 or the PS3, I dont recall. Please say 360
Oh...and go Pistons! Stuckey, Maxiell, and Amir for the win baby!
calinks
September 18th, 2008, 03:00 PM
I think you two will go to war this year and if you win, maybe they will hire you.
Varsity
September 18th, 2008, 03:22 PM
You DON'T have my vote. I will let 2k do what they do i mean what if the 2k insider is a guy that got from espn sry roster maker but i'd rather have an NBA sports analyst opinion then a guy who mades rosters for dreamcast.....
Smann54
September 18th, 2008, 03:27 PM
I wouldn't sign this. Soz
Rashidi
September 18th, 2008, 03:56 PM
I honestly don't care about petitions done online of any kind, unless somehow it eventually involves me in receiving a refund check in my mail box. Other than that I don't care who is doing the 2Kinsider. What I do care about is this will take more than one person solid opinion as you can plainly see within this thread.
This I have absolutely no problem with, the more the merrier. I know from experience how much work it is to keep up with 450+ players on a daily basis. As an east coastie, I don't get to see very much of certain teams (like memphis or minny post KG). Im assuming the insider, like most 2k staff, are from the west coast. I have no problem listening to the valid well thought out points of others, and respect the people who put as much time in as I do. Ideally the best way is to have one person for each division and have each one using criteria that was agreed upon in advance.
As currently constituted, I fear the same roster problems that plague 2k will only continue - that they only update the star players and pay little attention to the lesser knowns.
Will the Insider make time to update players when 2k historically takes 2 years to add some missing players? Time will tell.
And like others have already mentioned, I also don't see it fitting you are posting a Hire Me in a NBA forum, instead of going about it in a professional manner.
I didn't realize posting on a public forum was my official application?
And here's the thing. I could have chosen to apply via the website or write a letter. But I don't realistically expect anything would come of it. On paper I don't meet the qualifications. I didn't go to school for video games. I'm a restaurant manager, not a software developer.
Rather, I'm taking the best course of action for myself - by showing 2k sports that there are others who support the idea of taking a chance on this "relative unknown".
But hey I guess you are doing you.
High road taken.
Plus Ron already left his comment, on here. by saying the job is taken, He'll keep an eye out for you if need be, and send him a email or something of that nature. Other than that this should really be moved to the Site & Suggestion forum.
To be honest, I have never used the site suggestion forum, and I think most are in my boat. This is the board most frequented and this is obviously something I wanted people to see and comment on. I am actually a bit surprised at my fairly positive turn out, as I was more expecting closer to 50/50 and only half the current turnout.
My name is in the hat. That's good enough for me right now. I previously contacted an associate 2k producer and he said something to the effect of talking with the 2k team about bringing in top 2k Share contributors, so I was already making plans for daily or weekly updates before I heard anything about the 2K Insider. That they invented a position synonymous with what I'm known for was music to my ears.
In short, until they tell me no, it can't hurt to try.
illsmak
September 18th, 2008, 03:57 PM
I think you do know what you are talking about more than 2k does, to be honest. I agree with your ratings. I would give you that job if I could.
However, dude, you can come in here and say, "I am the one of the best basketball players in the world." And post like 20 youtube videos of you balling people, have guys come in here who have seen you that say you are the most amazing baller... but if you stated the simple line saying "I am the one." especially if it involves elevating yourself over someone else (Which you are, saying that you are more qualified than the 2k insider... dude it might be a real scout or something. You know?), you will ALWAYS get hated on and you are just asking to be flamed.
That being said, even though you deserve this for shamelessly advertising yourself, I understannd where you are coming from and I support you. Seriously, I believe you are ultimately qualitfied.
/ Sign
-Smak
illsmak
September 18th, 2008, 04:03 PM
Further (double post ),
It sounds like people would be bitter if someone on the forum got chosen. Not me... I think someone needs to do it. They NEED at least weekly updates for online play especially.
But it'd be pretty political to pick someone who didn't even post here. Or someone who was, like I said, an actual scout. But... IMO I could do ratings just fine to make the players play more like they do in real life... and make the game less cheesy online. I think you can do the same and you seemingly want to spend the hours (yes everyone HOURS and HOURS on END) it takes to perfect it.
-Smak
Salty
September 18th, 2008, 08:35 PM
Rashidi gets my vote.
Rashidi
September 19th, 2008, 04:56 AM
yeah...u have my vote too. Youre probably the most dedicated member of this board. You make the rosters for the 360 or the PS3, I dont recall. Please say 360
It's 360. Getting a PS3 is on my to do list. Editing for two systems instead of one will not be a pleasant experience though, seeing as it takes approx 8 hours to make all my changes.
Ishmael From Ova Da Hill
September 19th, 2008, 06:15 AM
2k could completely put an end to opinionated ratings and just use formulas for all off their ratings rather than just a few.
Right now, they only use formulas for the rebounding, block, steal, pass and 3-point ratings which works fine...they just need to adjust it a little bit so players can average a little bit more (or less) than currently possible (Rebounding for example, players barely ever go past 12 a game).
If they start using formulas for close and medium shot like they do for the attributes already mentioned, you wouldn't have to worry about fixing the scrub players (Pargo 62 close, 75 med or whatever he was, Buckner at 50 close rating since forever, Songaila at like 60 medium shot, etc.) or having overrated star players (LeBron 91 med, Redd 94 med, Stojakovic 97 close, etc.).
Obviously you can't use stats to determine ratings for attributes like Ball handling, Potential and Defense Awareness (maybe you can) to name a few, but that's where set scales can come into play. Make it look something like...
Ball Handling...
PG - 78-99
SG - 73-96
SF - 68-94
PF - 50/73
C - 50/69
Using scales like the above would even benefit the rookies generated in the Association mode so you won't see PG's coming in with like 70 handle and 70 speed like you do in 2k8...and probably in 2k9.
If you use formulas for the majority of the ratings, you won't really need a team of special "insiders" to come up with ratings for a few attributes.
Rashidi
September 19th, 2008, 06:32 AM
2k could completely put an end to opinionated ratings and just use formulas for all off their ratings rather than just a few.
Right now, they only use formulas for the rebounding, block, steal, pass and 3-point ratings which works fine...they just need to adjust it a little bit so players can average a little bit more (or less) than currently possible (Rebounding for example, players barely ever go past 12 a game).
If they start using formulas for close and medium shot like they do for the attributes already mentioned, you wouldn't have to worry about fixing the scrub players (Pargo 62 close, 75 med or whatever he was, Buckner at 50 close rating since forever, Songaila at like 60 medium shot, etc.) or having overrated star players (LeBron 91 med, Redd 94 med, Stojakovic 97 close, etc.).
Obviously you can't use stats to determine ratings for attributes like Ball handling, Potential and Defense Awareness (maybe you can) to name a few, but that's where set scales can come into play. Make it look something like...
Ball Handling...
PG - 78-99
SG - 73-96
SF - 68-94
PF - 50/73
C - 50/69
Using scales like the above would even benefit the rookies generated in the Association mode so you won't see PG's coming in with like 70 handle and 70 speed like you do in 2k8...and probably in 2k9.
If you use formulas for the majority of the ratings, you won't really need a team of special "insiders" to come up with ratings for a few attributes.
I think the ranges are only a good idea for CPU generated players like the draftees. But really that only works for ball handling, you can't really do that for Awareness because it has more to do with the individual than anything related to their position.
I'm guesing that's also 2k's way of getting you to use their training camps in association, you have to work the rookies to the point of where they're worth using.
mcgradybunch
September 19th, 2008, 07:20 AM
RASHIDI...WHY are cp3 and kg 99s??? whats 2k's motive
Rashidi
September 19th, 2008, 09:55 AM
Based on today's screenshots
Rashidi - 2K9 (2k8 default rating in parenthasize)
76ers
Brand 92 - 92 (92)
Iguodala 86 - 87 (83)
A. Miller 85 - 81 (82)
Dalembert 83 - 81 (77)
L. Williams 75 - 79 (67)
Thoughts: Andre Miller went down? Really? My Bayless note below applies to Lou Williams as well.
Blazers
Bayless 73 - 78 (n/a)
Roy 89 - 88 (82)
Webster 75 - 77 (71)
Aldridge 83 - 84 (75)
Oden 81 - 83 (80)
Outlaw 81 - 79 (72)
Thoughts: It will be interesting to see what they did to get Bayless so high. Bayless rates 73 as a PG for me but 78 as a SG. Does that mean 2k9's Bayless will rate an 83 as a SG?
Bucks
Sessions 76 - 78 (n/a)
Bell 75 - 79 (77)
Alexander 73 - 73 (n/a)
Allen 73 - 75 (68)
Gadzuric 71 - 72 (70)
Thoughts: Charlie Bell? Seriously? And I like Ramon Sessions, but he spent all year in the D-League and his numbers are the result of one monster game where negative 6 defense was played between the teams.
Cavs
M. Williams 84 - 84 (82)
Pistons
Stuckey 77 - 74 (75)
Thoughts: It's a little weird to me that Bayless got a gaudy rating but Stuckey actually went down, considering his hype.
Ishmael From Ova Da Hill
September 20th, 2008, 04:09 AM
I'll tell you now, those ratings that they just released for the Point Guards are ridiculous. Even if you ignore the overall ratings, there is no reason Jerryd Bayless, Ramon Sessions, whatever should even be close to or match up with Andre Miller. Horrible stuff going on there. All those overrated 3-point shooters and everything, so damn gross.
peri
September 20th, 2008, 07:29 AM
After seeing those rankings, I'm backing you Rashidi.
Rashidi
September 20th, 2008, 08:04 AM
I'll tell you now, those ratings that they just released for the Point Guards are ridiculous. Even if you ignore the overall ratings, there is no reason Jerryd Bayless, Ramon Sessions, whatever should even be close to or match up with Andre Miller. Horrible stuff going on there. All those overrated 3-point shooters and everything, so damn gross.
My personal favorite so far is Andre Miller being only marginally better than Jacque Vaughn on offense.
And what happened to CP3's 99 rating being from association progression? I knew that was BS off the bat.
What I want to know is whether ratings like Strength and Vertical are gonna count towards overall rating this year. That would be the biggest change and would at the least justify some of those high overall ratings.
Rashidi
September 22nd, 2008, 03:02 PM
So now that the PG and SG ratings are out
How many of you are happy with the job 2k has done in the ratings department?
Future 23
September 22nd, 2008, 03:05 PM
Stop bumping this just so you can say how your ratings are better :D
chessboxer1
September 22nd, 2008, 03:33 PM
but they are, there is no denying it. 2k talked a big game with the insider then put out some half assed ratings that anyone who watched basketball last year (that know about basketball) know is bullshirt. the ratings so far have been a joke, and rashidi has the no how and the statistical data to back up his work
VirusSnake
September 22nd, 2008, 03:39 PM
why dont you guys wait and see how the actual game PLAYS? if it plays normally number wont matter
Future 23
September 22nd, 2008, 03:42 PM
why dont you guys wait and see how the actual game PLAYS? if it plays normally number wont matter
EXACTLY:thumbsup:
jr2424
September 22nd, 2008, 03:42 PM
You or the Czar have my vote
eye guy
September 22nd, 2008, 03:44 PM
I was going to start a thread saying, "Whats the bet Rashidi's the Inside Man?"... Lol. I didn't even know this thread existed...
I'll sign............................................
thereginator28
September 22nd, 2008, 03:48 PM
Rashidi I think you should really try to accomplish this job. It's almost like they made the 2K Insider to bait you to get that position. You got my vote as I've been using your hardworking rosters for years that you put so much work in them. I also like how you debunk these haters with statistical facts all the time. You really know your stuff. I hope 2K contacts you soon.
*Signs*
Tik-Tok
September 22nd, 2008, 03:49 PM
You kids are sleeping on Rashidi. The man has been putting a lot of work into making accurate rosters for this game for years, and many people have suggested he should be working for 2K just so we could get accurate updated rosters more frequently.
2K sports has traditionally done a terrible job at roster updates in respect to both the timeliness and accuracy. This would have been a PERFECT opportunity to solve both of those issues with the new living rosters, and 2K insider. Well now at least we'll get timely updates, but I'm highly skeptical about the accuracy of them.
It's a shame this role has almost certainly been filled because it's a job tailor made for Rashidi. My only suggestion would be for 2K Sports to step up and let the community, the fans, the people who pay for their product, know exactly who this mystery man is otherwise his credibility will ALWAYS be in question.
I guarantee you this forum will be full of people who actually know what they're talking about complaining about how ridiculously off base the 2K Insider is.
thereginator28
September 22nd, 2008, 03:57 PM
You kids are sleeping on Rashidi. The man has been putting a lot of work into making accurate rosters for this game for years, and many people have suggested he should be working for 2K just so we could get accurate updated rosters more frequently.
2K sports has traditionally done a terrible job at roster updates in respect to both the timeliness and accuracy. This would have been a PERFECT opportunity to solve both of those issues with the new living rosters, and 2K insider. Well now at least we'll get timely updates, but I'm highly skeptical about the accuracy of them.
It's a shame this role has almost certainly been filled because it's a job tailor made for Rashidi. My only suggestion would be for 2K Sports to step up and let the community, the fans, the people who pay for their product, know exactly who this mystery man is otherwise his credibility will ALWAYS be in question.
I guarantee you this forum will be full of people who actually know what they're talking about complaining about how ridiculously off base the 2K Insider is.
Agreed to the fullest. Also, Rashidi I have a question. I don't know if you mentioned yet, but will you download the Living Rosters with the new animations and then tweak the ratings to your style? I been wondering this for a few days now.
Q-Qadgetry
September 22nd, 2008, 04:03 PM
You'd be better off contacting 2K and showing them your resume in private than doing it like this.
Although the job is probably filled already.
Future 23
September 22nd, 2008, 04:19 PM
You kids are sleeping on Rashidi. The man has been putting a lot of work into making accurate rosters for this game for years, and many people have suggested he should be working for 2K just so we could get accurate updated rosters more frequently.
2K sports has traditionally done a terrible job at roster updates in respect to both the timeliness and accuracy. This would have been a PERFECT opportunity to solve both of those issues with the new living rosters, and 2K insider. Well now at least we'll get timely updates, but I'm highly skeptical about the accuracy of them.
It's a shame this role has almost certainly been filled because it's a job tailor made for Rashidi. My only suggestion would be for 2K Sports to step up and let the community, the fans, the people who pay for their product, know exactly who this mystery man is otherwise his credibility will ALWAYS be in question.
I guarantee you this forum will be full of people who actually know what they're talking about complaining about how ridiculously off base the 2K Insider is.
First off.. i am the first one to give Rashidi credit.. he does put a lot of time and effort into his updates.. but at the same time i dont see him as some basketball guru or anything.. i give him respect for his work ethic and sacraficing his time to do all these roster tweaks and updates.. and if he were to become the 2k insider thats great i would be happy for him.. but at the same time i know there are plenty of people on this forum that would do the 2k insider job with as much diligence as Rashidi does his ratings..
Rashidi
September 22nd, 2008, 04:28 PM
You'd be better off contacting 2K and showing them your resume in private than doing it like this.
Although the job is probably filled already.
I've previously mentioned this, but restaurant manager and theatre producer doesn't scream video games or sports.
The job is filled but that doesn't mean I couldn't join and assist the team (or even replace the insider based on the huge amount of backlash)
Rene
September 22nd, 2008, 04:31 PM
I've previously mentioned this, but restaurant manager and theatre producer doesn't scream video games or sports.
The job is filled but that doesn't mean I couldn't join and assist the team (or even replace the insider based on the huge amount of backlash)
You'd be the perfect man for the job, I've looked at some of these ratings (2K's) and some are just atrocious! Kobe Bryant 101? Kevin Garnett 99? LeBron James 99? Lol man save the day, please!
Rashidi
September 22nd, 2008, 04:38 PM
Agreed to the fullest. Also, Rashidi I have a question. I don't know if you mentioned yet, but will you download the Living Rosters with the new animations and then tweak the ratings to your style? I been wondering this for a few days now.
That's the current plan although it will depend on the frequency and quality of their updates.
Rashidi
September 22nd, 2008, 04:44 PM
You or the Czar have my vote
Out of curiosity, who is the Czar?
Rashidi
September 22nd, 2008, 04:50 PM
You or the Czar have my vote
Out of curiosity, who is the Czar?
Rene
September 22nd, 2008, 05:04 PM
Out of curiosity, who is the Czar?
This is the Czar (http://2ksports.com/forums/member.php?u=53116).
Diddy1988315
September 22nd, 2008, 05:18 PM
oh, i though Mike Fratello for a second lmao.
omg did u see tmac's midrange rating?
GIVE RASHIDI A JOB 2k!!!
DARKSPACE
September 22nd, 2008, 05:23 PM
The job is filled but that doesn't mean I couldn't join and assist the team (or even replace the insider based on the huge amount of backlash)
Before you go critizing or labeling yourself as you were born to do this, you might really want to consider on how you approach this. Again you are not the only person that partakes into this kind of public service. There are many like you and others are better equipped or more knowledgeable in certain areas. The 2Kinsider is more than what you or others think. He has alot more avenues to take on. He has presentations and a huge task to live up to. He is going to be the face of what 2K is trying to do. Asking to be of help or simply replacing him without allowing him to showcase his talent really shows me that what you feel you are born to do is just exactly that. But that doesn't mean you are born to get paid for it. Even when putting up the countless hrs of work which I know is tedious work, it should be coming from the pure enjoying of your heart. Not for any other purpose or reason. That reason alone is why you or others do what they do. Then if someone of important notices your talent I'm sure they will try contacting anyone who they fill meets their criteria.
As always One's opinion is will always be left to be challenged, and what you're doing I think it's a little unfair and somewhat unjustly. Personally all I care about is the bottomline. And at this very moment everything is being speculated and hyperthetically speaking. I suggest you take the high road especially since you pretty much poured out your true feelings and intentions from creating this thread and your post replies. Now before you decide on quoting or disecting my post ask yourself is what I'm doing an assest or am I being detrimental to what I enjoy doing. "I hope to leave this thread by saying goodluck, best wishes with your future NBA2K9 endeavor(s) and by placing the ball on your court, you do as you wish"
chessboxer1
September 22nd, 2008, 06:10 PM
B The 2Kinsider is more than what you or others think. He has alot more avenues to take on. He has presentations and a huge task to live up to. He is going to be the face of what 2K is trying to do.
The anonymous face...
mcgradybunch
September 22nd, 2008, 07:13 PM
rashidi, make sure u post your edits on the file share when the game comes out..im using yours for sure..these ratings are ridiculous this year...............
Rashidi
September 22nd, 2008, 07:30 PM
Before you go critizing or labeling yourself as you were born to do this, you might really want to consider on how you approach this.
Good sir,
I have not criticized the 2k insider. Everyone else has.
Again you are not the only person that partakes into this kind of public service. There are many like you and others are better equipped or more knowledgeable in certain areas.
Since there are many, I'm sure you can name some with ease.
The 2Kinsider is more than what you or others think. He has alot more avenues to take on. He has presentations and a huge task to live up to. He is going to be the face of what 2K is trying to do.
In other words, it sounds like he's got his work cut out for him. I have nothing against the guy. It's the community that is calling for his head.
Asking to be of help or simply replacing him without allowing him to showcase his talent really shows me that what you feel you are born to do is just exactly that.
So answer this question then: Is the 2K Insider responsible for the published ratings?
But that doesn't mean you are born to get paid for it.
I already get paid for it. But that's besides the point.
Even when putting up the countless hrs of work which I know is tedious work, it should be coming from the pure enjoying of your heart. Not for any other purpose or reason. That reason alone is why you or others do what they do.
I am not content "settling" for small-time roster editor, nor should I be when I am constantly told I should be doing it professionally. The cruel reality is my bills will eventually overcome my love. I certainly can't imagine working, editing rosters, and say, raising children. Hence a desire to make my life more... compact.
In short, please refrain from chiding me for living in a capitalist society.
illsmak
September 22nd, 2008, 07:58 PM
2k could completely put an end to opinionated ratings and just use formulas for all off their ratings rather than just a few.
^^ Quoting Ish.
"Duhhhh."
It makes no sense that they would do anything else.
-Smak
Bbaklings911
September 22nd, 2008, 08:03 PM
rashidi u definetly shud make the ratings. urs are realistic as it gets
Smith146
September 22nd, 2008, 08:07 PM
Whoever did make the ratings though did not fully look at all the players as so many specific ratings such as athleticism and such do not make any sense when comparing. That is a mistake in simply not doing their job to the fullest but trying to get it done as quickly as they can ending in a sloppy result. If you look at the ratings already out just for guards you can see the inconsistency and lack of work truly put into it.
Future 23
September 22nd, 2008, 09:25 PM
Before you go critizing or labeling yourself as you were born to do this, you might really want to consider on how you approach this. Again you are not the only person that partakes into this kind of public service. There are many like you and others are better equipped or more knowledgeable in certain areas. The 2Kinsider is more than what you or others think. He has alot more avenues to take on. He has presentations and a huge task to live up to. He is going to be the face of what 2K is trying to do. Asking to be of help or simply replacing him without allowing him to showcase his talent really shows me that what you feel you are born to do is just exactly that. But that doesn't mean you are born to get paid for it. Even when putting up the countless hrs of work which I know is tedious work, it should be coming from the pure enjoying of your heart. Not for any other purpose or reason. That reason alone is why you or others do what they do. Then if someone of important notices your talent I'm sure they will try contacting anyone who they fill meets their criteria.
As always One's opinion is will always be left to be challenged, and what you're doing I think it's a little unfair and somewhat unjustly. Personally all I care about is the bottomline. And at this very moment everything is being speculated and hyperthetically speaking. I suggest you take the high road especially since you pretty much poured out your true feelings and intentions from creating this thread and your post replies. Now before you decide on quoting or disecting my post ask yourself is what I'm doing an assest or am I being detrimental to what I enjoy doing. "I hope to leave this thread by saying goodluck, best wishes with your future NBA2K9 endeavor(s) and by placing the ball on your court, you do as you wish"
well said.. give the guy a chance.. i am sure he isnt going to get fired because some people on the forum think rashidi should do the job.. Darkspace is right on the money when he says that there are others who could do the job as well or maybe better than Rashidi.. we are pretty much calling for the 2k insider to get the hook before he even steps on stage..
Rashidi
September 22nd, 2008, 09:47 PM
Darkspace is right on the money when he says that there are others who could do the job as well or maybe better than Rashidi.
Name someone.
I'm serious.
I'm not even being cocky or anything. I know people held in high regard like DT Lindner and Pasta Padre who make NCAA Football rosters every year. When it comes to NBA 2K, who is my quote unquote competition? I'm genuinely interested.
Obama and McCain aren't the best presidential nominees in their parties. There are other people out there who could do just as good a job if not better. This is the equivalent of what you're saying.
illsmak
September 22nd, 2008, 09:53 PM
Rashi, you might be a 'genius of your craft' but you come off as arrogant and condescending. Believe me, I've been labeled the same thing. And lemme tell you something (incase you don't know?), when someone labels you that, they don't care about your credentials or your argument. They just tune you out and say, "This guy is a windbag." Regardless.
As for naming someone, don't you think any advanced scout who has minimal knowledge of the formula that 2k uses for their ratings would be as good or better than you? I don't think it would be hard to get someone who was like that or, even, just on the threshold of being that.
The largest bonus of having you as the insider would be that you are easily accessible. However, how open to suggestion are you? I mean, if 40 people say one of your ratings is wrong are they 40 idiots or do you think maybe you might want to change something?
-Smak
chessboxer1
September 22nd, 2008, 10:12 PM
it shouldn't be about the general consensus , it should be about fact and statistics. 40 people may disagree with you, but it doesn't mean those 40 people are right. would you change a rating that you knew to be right (because you use stats to back up your ratings) just because a lot of people wanted you too?
bhhawks78
September 22nd, 2008, 10:17 PM
/signed been using your gamefaqs stuff since 04 or 05 way back (change a few here and there but ALOT less than the defaults...)
Future 23
September 22nd, 2008, 10:40 PM
it shouldn't be about the general consensus , it should be about fact and statistics. 40 people may disagree with you, but it doesn't mean those 40 people are right. would you change a rating that you knew to be right (because you use stats to back up your ratings) just because a lot of people wanted you too?
chessboxer.. your right someone shouldnt change something they think is right simply because a lot of people want you to. but here we are on these forums with everyone clamoring for the 2k insider to change all these ratings before we even know how the system will work or what formulas and stats they used to get the ratings..
Rashidi
September 23rd, 2008, 12:07 AM
Rashi, you might be a 'genius of your craft' but you come off as arrogant and condescending. Believe me, I've been labeled the same thing. And lemme tell you something (incase you don't know?), when someone labels you that, they don't care about your credentials or your argument. They just tune you out and say, "This guy is a windbag." Regardless.
I realize I sometimes come off as that and just chalk it up to the environment. It's easy to be matter-of-factual typing away at a computer desk - I try to keep my sense of humor while I'm at it. A video game basketball forum in particular is a peculiar balance between trash talking thug and gamer nerd. I think I do a pretty good job handling myself given how often I'm in the line of fire.
As for naming someone, don't you think any advanced scout who has minimal knowledge of the formula that 2k uses for their ratings would be as good or better than you?
Yes and no.
First, I have been watching the NBA for 15 years, and evaluating players for the last 6. I'd consider myself a fairly decent scout.
Second, unlike most NBA scouts, I've also been playing NBA video games for 15 years. I have a better grasp of the mechanics than most of them. I would gander that most professional scouts are only casual gamers, if at all.
Third, professional scouts are a bit too busy with their daily duties to maintain consistent contact with 2k. My guess is NBA teams pay just a bit better than video game studios on a budget.
Fourth, it's more a statistics based job than anything, so I'd look to someone from the Sabrmetric community. The top Sabrmetricians I know are John Hollinger and Kevin Pelton. Hollinger is working for ESPN now so he's obviously not available. Pelton was working for the Sonics but is probably unemployed now since I doubt he made the move to OKC. My guess is he'd prefer to work for another NBA team though, and not a video game company.
The "ideal" candidates are all people who desire full-time employment in the NBA, not full-time employment by a video game studio. We can only speculate at this point on who the Insider really is, but my guess is if it were someone well known they would have released his name already to get better pubilcity.
The largest bonus of having you as the insider would be that you are easily accessible. However, how open to suggestion are you? I mean, if 40 people say one of your ratings is wrong are they 40 idiots or do you think maybe you might want to change something?
I am always been open to suggestion and enjoy expressing my views on a player. If someone has a better perspective than I do, I make a change.
Most of the time any disputes are due to the other person not being as familiar with 2k's system and the rest of the players as I am. When I edit a player I am taking the other 450 into account, as well as all the advanced factors I've come across. I always explain my reasoning with examples which is why my ratings are the most trusted out there.
After 6 years of doing this, not only editing, but also noting 2k's annual changes and adaptations to their rating system, it's all literally become second language to me. It's worth noting that of all the other roster editors out there, I'm really the only one that has made it a point of staying true to 2k's own ratings system rather than inventing my own.
On the other hand, rather than going with what's in place the 2k Insider seems to be inventing his own ratings system. That's really the only way to describe the overhauls to 3pt and PostOff. The 2k community is now left desperately hoping that game mechanics have changed, because these ratings would never fly in 2k8.
Rashidi
September 23rd, 2008, 12:14 AM
it shouldn't be about the general consensus , it should be about fact and statistics. 40 people may disagree with you, but it doesn't mean those 40 people are right. would you change a rating that you knew to be right (because you use stats to back up your ratings) just because a lot of people wanted you too?
Well, if 40 out of 40 people disagreed with me even after I've made my points, I'm definitely wrong.
That has never happened though because basketball fans are not so like minded, they all have different backgrounds and views.
You can't even get 40/40 to agree that Michael Jordan is the best player of all-time. You might get 40/40 Bulls fans to agree but you sure aren't going to get 40/40 Lakers or Celtics fans on the same page.
Future 23
September 23rd, 2008, 12:23 AM
as someone who has both been watching basketball and playing sports video games longer than you i feel you should just let it go.. just let the insider be.. you do your thing and maybe next year you will get your job.. if you plan on spending this upcoming year trying to make the 2k insider look like an A55HOLE (sorry Mods :D ) i highly doubt you will even be considered for the job.. so do your ratings like you always do.. and i am sure you will get people supporting your ratings over those provided by the 2k insider.. (although no one has said that the 2k insider is responsible for the initial 2k ratings) So just let it go, the game isnt even out yet and you are already trying to paint the 2k insider as some amature who doesnt/can't possible be as dedicated as you are to 2k and the nba..
Rashidi
September 23rd, 2008, 01:40 AM
as someone who has both been watching basketball and playing sports video games longer than you i feel you should just let it go.
If memory serves, I asked you how long you've been doing both. You've yet to respond.
You also haven't named one of these numerous people with better ratings than me.
Go figure. Quit trolling while you're ahead.
although no one has said that the 2k insider is responsible for the initial 2k ratings
No one has denied it yet either. It's been 3 days and all we've got are overwhelmed moderators playing damage control.
you are already trying to paint the 2k insider as some amature who doesnt/can't possible be as dedicated as you are to 2k and the nba..
It's everyone else who is saying that. Not me. I'd say "feel free to quote me" but you're also the one who freaked when I casually used the word "plenty".
Finess101
September 23rd, 2008, 02:08 AM
In a way you are painting the guy as some amateur by making this thread. Who petitions for themselves? anyhoo lol it's pretty funny. We haven't seen the guy in action, you don't know anything about dude. Petitions just scream fail, good luck to you though if this doesn't work maybe you could try the professional route about doing this (also i replied because you were coming off....'funny' to me after reading 2 pages or so)
Gator Sauce
September 23rd, 2008, 02:34 AM
Is this jealousy or just hate? As a qualified lurker, I'd say it's laughable regardless. Anyone who has followed this series and/or participated in the forums dedicated to it knows Rashidi is as thorough and passionate as ANYONE out there when it comes to rosters and edits...bar none.
Was his method of gaining consideration for the job by the book professional? probably not...but who gives a !@#%? He took a chance in order to gain support which he has had for years, and frankly I would have done the same thing. This job is essentially this man's passion, and I certainly don't fault him for taking a bold step to try and make it a reality. Why you're trying to cut him down is just strange; we would all benefit greatly from him getting the job, it's not even debatable.
As for the Roy/SF debate -- McMillan said today at Rudy's introductory press conference that he envisions Roy and Rudy playing together when Roy plays point and SMALL FORWARD...so I'd definitely say Rashidi was spot on in his analysis.
NYCDaFuture4sho
September 23rd, 2008, 02:57 AM
Ehh, I've seen rashidi's work for a couple of years now. I will say that he is consistent n puts in work for the ratings... some I don't agree with tho but wateva..
2nd, future 23 who is u b? I been seein u use my name since I think 2k5 n I used dis fo a good min check sig lol. Numba 23 does have a few good points n I also don't think rashidi has da toughness to deal with ppl. Plus wasn't he a laker hater b4? Cuz rashidi I followed ur works n posts we'll on gamefaqs from way bac..
3rd, all of this is pointless since I already know who is almost 95% getting the job. It starts wit an Ra Lol but its not rashidi. Newayz no hate at all n do u Ya Dig
Smith146
September 23rd, 2008, 08:56 AM
I've actually been editing rosters and adding FAs & Rookies (created players) since 2K3. :)
DOntHAteDaPlAyAHatEDaGAME
September 23rd, 2008, 09:04 AM
3rd, all of this is pointless since I already know who is almost 95% getting the job. It starts wit an Ra Lol but its not rashidi. Newayz no hate at all n do u Ya Dig
Are u talking about Razr1275??
Rashidi
September 23rd, 2008, 11:53 AM
Are u talking about Razr1275??
He is, but it ain't him. He's busy working on NCAA football rosters - an EA title.
chessboxer1
September 23rd, 2008, 02:21 PM
chessboxer.. your right someone shouldnt change something they think is right simply because a lot of people want you to. but here we are on these forums with everyone clamoring for the 2k insider to change all these ratings before we even know how the system will work or what formulas and stats they used to get the ratings..
fine, i'll reserve judgement until i get explanations and definitions for each rating. if it doesn't come then i'm going to go back to complaining about ratings. my problem is when one player is rated higher than another when stats and my eyes tell me that these ratings are wrong.
btw, check out today's association screens, and see the end of season 3 pt ratings. kyle korver shoot .556 and deshawn stevenson is like 4th shooting .492
chessboxer1
September 23rd, 2008, 02:23 PM
Well, if 40 out of 40 people disagreed with me even after I've made my points, I'm definitely wrong.
That has never happened though because basketball fans are not so like minded, they all have different backgrounds and views.
You can't even get 40/40 to agree that Michael Jordan is the best player of all-time. You might get 40/40 Bulls fans to agree but you sure aren't going to get 40/40 Lakers or Celtics fans on the same page.
come on that doesn't make you wrong and you know it. if i say the sky is blue and 40 out of 40 people say its red, doesn't make the sky red, just makes those people stupid...
Rashidi
September 23rd, 2008, 02:29 PM
come on that doesn't make you wrong and you know it. if i say the sky is blue and 40 out of 40 people say its red, doesn't make the sky red, just makes those people stupid...
Would 40/40 people ever say the sky is red though? Especially If were talking 40/40 "sky fans"?
Future 23
September 23rd, 2008, 02:30 PM
come on that doesn't make you wrong and you know it. if i say the sky is blue and 40 out of 40 people say its red, doesn't make the sky red, just makes those people stupid...
your right and your wrong.. i mean your right about the sky analogy.. but this is a game so people will see what they want to see.. if they love artest and hist steal is 75 they are going to get ****ed but at the same time if it were 99 then the other half of the people will be ****ed.. now i admit that some of 2ks ratings are based on reputation not on what is seen on the court in terms of player performance.. but i think the 2k insider has to be able to put down what changes he sees fit without caring what people think to an extent. he will never make everyone happy.. so hopefully 2k took this into account and maybe the gameplay doesn't soley rely on ratings like the previous games did.. so shot selection and defensive position might affect shooting % more realistically..
chessboxer1
September 23rd, 2008, 02:43 PM
like i said, keeping my mouth shut on ratings till i play the game. Ron said the ratings posted were wrong in general but he didn't specify whether they were old ratings or just plain wrong. anyway, i still am worried about the 3pt leaders screen, but we'll see.
hopefully the ratings work themselves out, if not...Rashidi to the rescue
dragonsruleme
September 23rd, 2008, 02:55 PM
I thought you were the Insider for a while. It made sense for you to be the insider since you have great knowledge of how the rating system in their games works, you have great knowledge of the NBA and will be dedicated to doing the job.
Whoever the insider is now, we don't know if he will do regular updates or fix any mistakes he makes since he may be arrogant for all we know.
illsmak
September 23rd, 2008, 03:14 PM
lol Chess... basketball isn't so cut and dry like that. Besides, the sky isn't blue everywhere all of the time. :)
Further, I think the 2k rating is a sham. 101 overall? WHAT???? lolol. That's sickening. Wouldn't it be smart to level it off at 99 overall. Even 99 is absurd, but 101? They could easily scale down everyone's rating to make it so that the highest was only 99. We got Sasha @ 80 and Kobe at 101. lol. Are we rating Kobe based on Sasha when we should be rating Sasha based on Kobe at, best case, 99. You see what I mean? So you wanna say Kobe and Bron are the two best (debatable, but whatever)... then you put them at 99. And you use them as the basis for your overall rating. You can't be a 101 overall... it makes no sense.
-Smak
portlandblazer
September 23rd, 2008, 04:47 PM
well i tried reading most of this thread but whoa 20 pages of argument about whether rashidi is qualified for this job? hey rashidi i thought you retired from roster making. haha!!! anyway heres my 2 cents. this is going to be a tough job for anyone to do if its going to be done correctly and given 2ks history i expect this to be a failure. i believe rashidi should be considered for this job or at least a consultant to the insider. for the job to be done right i think we would need a 2k insider committee. the only knock i might have on rashidi is his people skills. if he were the insider he would have to be more considerate of peoples opinions and better in response to peoples ignorance. hes very opinionated and can come off as arrogant sometimes but that aside i tend to agree with him almost always. good luck rashidi, in my opinion you most definitely were born for this type of position.
chessboxer1
September 23rd, 2008, 05:31 PM
lol Chess... basketball isn't so cut and dry like that. Besides, the sky isn't blue everywhere all of the time. :)
Further, I think the 2k rating is a sham. 101 overall? WHAT???? lolol. That's sickening. Wouldn't it be smart to level it off at 99 overall. Even 99 is absurd, but 101? They could easily scale down everyone's rating to make it so that the highest was only 99. We got Sasha @ 80 and Kobe at 101. lol. Are we rating Kobe based on Sasha when we should be rating Sasha based on Kobe at, best case, 99. You see what I mean? So you wanna say Kobe and Bron are the two best (debatable, but whatever)... then you put them at 99. And you use them as the basis for your overall rating. You can't be a 101 overall... it makes no sense.
-Smak
haha, i stand corrected on my sky example.
as far as the ratings this goes back to my point that every rating in the game should be given a set value.
example:
99 vertical = 55 inch vert
99 speed = 4.2 in the 40 yard dash (or whatever the bball speed equivalent is)
99 strength= whatever bench press
etc.
basketball skill ratings should translate to the highest numbers of the modern era
99 pass = john stockton's 14.5 in 89-90
99 rebounds = dennis rodman's 18.7 in 91-92
99 blocks = hakeem olajuwon's 4.6 in 89-90
99 steals = stockton's 3.2 in 88-89
etc.
shooting ratings are based on percentages, and the other ratings that don't fall into either of the above categories are based off unlocking animations, so they're still a little more subjective. this way the great players in the game can still improve, and you don't have sub par players suddenly jumping to crazy high ratings cause they had one good year
Rashidi
September 26th, 2008, 09:21 AM
You know what, BL had a really good idea. I'll have you e-mail me your thoughts on ratings on a weekly basis (when I figure out what day he's going to discuss, and I will forward them to the Insider. I am sure he could take some community though on that and maybe it's something you guys can all collaboratively discuss on the forums. What do you all think?
Hi Ron,
I didn't see this the first time through, and I'm not sure if you were talking to me specifically or the community in general.
While I appreciate the gesture, I'm sure you've heard by now from the moderators that I'm a headache and too difficult to work with. I've started my own blog that will function similar to the 2K Insider idea. I suppose if anyone high up actually wants to hear my thoughts they can just read that.
Blue-Lightning
September 26th, 2008, 09:24 AM
Rashidi, you were given special access to the 2K Insider that no other person was given, and you're going to turn down that offer?
BL
Smith146
September 26th, 2008, 09:25 AM
I'll take it.
mikedeezy
September 26th, 2008, 09:25 AM
Rashidi, you were given special access to the 2K Insider that no other person was given, and you're going to turn down that offer?
BL
lol i think he feels like you guys owe him something
projectskillz
September 26th, 2008, 09:26 AM
well thats just amazing. GUYS GOT konads
Mr. Sig Shot
September 26th, 2008, 09:36 AM
no he doesnt, hes just feeling himself a little too much....hes acting like a superstar....but hes just another member at OS lol
Future 23
September 26th, 2008, 09:39 AM
no he doesnt, hes just feeling himself a little too much....hes acting like a superstar....but hes just another member at OS lol
your right, He thinks he is the only one that has access to site like 82games.com.. he swears he is the only one that can make ratings.. we all have the internet Rashidi we all can look up stats..
Kstat
September 26th, 2008, 09:43 AM
Rashidi...We know you think you're the best in your field.
I'm telling you this because I do respect your contributions to the community over the years...
Take the offer. You're going to be kicking yourself in the *** for a long time if you don't.
I would KILL to have that kind of input in this game, so would a hundred other guys.
Not only do you burn bridges with the people that actually MAKE the game, but you offend the rest of the community by passing up an opportunity that many of us will never get.
Sometimes you gotta swallow your pride, dude. You're going to kill the cred you've spent years earning if you turn them down.
Rashidi
September 26th, 2008, 09:46 AM
Rashidi, you were given special access to the 2K Insider that no other person was given, and you're going to turn down that offer?
BL
When did this happen?
biggestboss
September 26th, 2008, 09:47 AM
we already have the insider? give him a chance.
Future 23
September 26th, 2008, 09:47 AM
Rashidi...We know you think you're the best in your field.
I'm telling you this because I do respect your contributions to the community over the years...
Take the offer. You're going to be kicking yourself in the *** for a long time if you don't.
I would KILL to have that kind of input in this game, so would a hundred other guys.
Not only do you burn bridges with the people that actually MAKE the game, but you offend the rest of the community by passing up an opportunity that many of us will never get.
Sometimes you gotta swallow your pride, dude. You're going to kill the cred you've spent years earning if you turn them down.
Are you kidding.. have you not seen rashidi's posts he is all about himself when it comes to the rating system and his player edits.. he wants to compete with the 2k insider.. i mean if he were to submit his thoughts to help out the insider and the insider didnt take his advice we would hear about it all day.. let him have his blog and we can choose for ourselves.. he cleary wants to do this his own way.
Mr. Sig Shot
September 26th, 2008, 09:48 AM
your right, He thinks he is the only one that has access to site like 82games.com.. he swears he is the only one that can make ratings.. we all have the internet Rashidi we all can look up stats..
only difference is he has the TIME. and im not saying I dont appreciate it, but to have some sense of entitlement b\c you do video basketball ratings is silly. i just find it funny hes doing all this HERE....haha
RapboY
September 26th, 2008, 09:49 AM
why can't there just be a team of 2k Insiders instead? but yeah, tried and tested rashidi gets my vote.. :D
Future 23
September 26th, 2008, 09:53 AM
only difference is he has the TIME. and im not saying I dont appreciate it, but to have some sense of entitlement b\c you do video basketball ratings is silly. i just find it funny hes doing all this HERE....haha
Exactly i mean do i really want to sit here and complain that royal ivey's (3rd string guard for the 76ers) passing is a 65 and that it should be a 72.. :rotfl:
Rashidi
September 26th, 2008, 09:58 AM
Exactly i mean do i really want to sit here and complain that royal ivey's (3rd string guard for the 76ers) passing is a 65 and that it should be a 72.. :rotfl:
Probably. You already sit around complaining about every thing I say.
Future 23
September 26th, 2008, 10:06 AM
Probably. You already sit around complaining about every thing I say.
Riiiiight :rolleyes:
if you go see the other thread where you are promoting your sites grand opening or whatever, you will see that i said that you should have your blog since we/they can choose do use your rosters or not.. its that simple do your thing and let things play out.. dont try to force the issue.. some people already think you are arrogant.. if you are trying to sell your ideas to people you gotta have some sort of rapport with then to the point that they think your a cool guy and make good roster edits.. you think people are going to be backing you if you keep bashing the 2k insider on how he cant possibly be more dedicated than you when it comes to ratings.. please just do your thing and let the other guy be..
Rashidi
September 26th, 2008, 10:10 AM
Rashidi, you were given special access to the 2K Insider that no other person was given, and you're going to turn down that offer?
BL
I think you do a good job around here btw BL. You get the most done and have the most respected voice but that's neither here nor there.
I don't really understand the special access though, I mean from what I understand, everyone will be able to email him and submit their thoughts. If I'm wrong let me know.
Either way it's not likely we'd exchange ideologies regarding rating methods, and it sounds more like it would be a one-way stream of information (i.e. me emailing him to give him advice, not vice versa).
Rashidi
September 26th, 2008, 10:12 AM
please just do your thing and let the other guy be..
Again, says the guy who has more opinions about me on these forums than the actual 2k9 video game.
:rolleyes:
Future 23
September 26th, 2008, 10:20 AM
I am sorry for not liking self serving people.. it gets old really fast.. like Ron said.. you do good work.. you take the time to do it ... congrats, but just because you sit down for a few hours to edit some players on a video game doesnt make you smarter or more knowledgeable about the NBA than anyone else..
mcgradybunch
September 26th, 2008, 10:24 AM
Ill argue for rashidi...he does great work...hes very knowledgable OF EVERY PLAYER in the nba, something 2k is not...they clone players and give them same ratings..i.e..hedo and danilo gallinari...booo
Rashidi
September 26th, 2008, 10:54 AM
I am sorry for not liking self serving people.. it gets old really fast.. like Ron said.. you do good work.. you take the time to do it ... congrats, but just because you sit down for a few hours to edit some players on a video game doesnt make you smarter or more knowledgeable about the NBA than anyone else..
Just because you don't like me, doesn't excuse hours of trolling behavior. It gets old really fast.
Future 23
September 26th, 2008, 10:59 AM
Just because you don't like me, doesn't excuse hours of trolling behavior. It gets old really fast.
oh brother.. i am sorry you cant take any criticism..
kilasteve
September 26th, 2008, 11:01 AM
oh brother.. i am sorry you cant take any criticism..
hey future 23 just be your self
Future 23
September 26th, 2008, 11:07 AM
hey future 23 just be your self
what do you mean? :confused:
VirusSnake
September 26th, 2008, 11:10 AM
Just because you don't like me, doesn't excuse hours of trolling behavior. It gets old really fast.
NOBODY likes you
T-Mac713
September 26th, 2008, 11:13 AM
Like The Anger In Dis Thread... Lol Chillout Rashidi Deserves To Be The 2k Insider... Real Talk
mcgradybunch
September 26th, 2008, 11:16 AM
yup, real talk..i bet you if rashidi was the insider the only ones who would **** and moan are lebron **** riders asking why his mid isnt 91..lol
Mod's Note: Do not bypass the language filter. :nono:
Blue-Lightning
September 26th, 2008, 11:33 AM
I think you do a good job around here btw BL. You get the most done and have the most respected voice but that's neither here nor there.
I don't really understand the special access though, I mean from what I understand, everyone will be able to email him and submit their thoughts. If I'm wrong let me know.
Either way it's not likely we'd exchange ideologies regarding rating methods, and it sounds more like it would be a one-way stream of information (i.e. me emailing him to give him advice, not vice versa).
Ron offered to email any suggestions you have on a weekly basis. There's nothing there to say that you wouldn't get any emails back. You're drawing that conclusion on your own.
Oh well... if you're not interested in having a voice in the official process, that's your call.
BL
chessboxer1
September 26th, 2008, 11:54 AM
NOBODY likes you
you're the worst virus snake, i've never seen you do anything but put people down...you are a posts are nothing but mean spirited garbage
y2kenta
September 26th, 2008, 11:58 AM
IS there any chance that they could consider you (Rashidi) or have you even contacted them show them your work and research. I'm extremely knowledgeable of NBA players and abilities) and have always done them since it was possible because all developers look over a lot of players as well as clone players.
Hey, good luck! I'd sign for you. I'd even like to ride with you be on a Insider team...
mcgradybunch
October 2nd, 2008, 09:29 PM
id still vote for rashidi...dang...this is awful
t is quite clear and convincing that 2k has absolutely no clue what their own layup rating does if they gave Howard a higher rating than 90% of all guards. Tony Parker is an 89 layup this year, for those keeping track of such absurdity at home.
But it gets better
Top 10 Center Layup
86 Howard
72 Noah
71 E. Curry
70 Horford
69 Chandler
69 Biedrins
69 K. Brown
68 Bogut
68 Mourning
68 R. Hollins
68 G. Davis
Yeah, it's that bad.
Handz19
October 2nd, 2008, 09:36 PM
sent a resume in? or applied for an intern? lol
jdiddy_ub
October 2nd, 2008, 09:52 PM
ok..soo..ive stumbled across this thread a couple of times now and I am shocked to see that it has grown into a 20+ page argument...i have seen rashidi's edits on a few sites and places before and i think it is interesting that he wants to become the insider...rashidi..no matter how much effort you've put into player ratings and stuff in the past (which i will admit is pretty impressive) it doesnt not entitle you to a job..what you do is more of a hobby than anything (or some sort of voluntary activity)..now that 2k has decided to pay someone to make roster edits it just seems like you are jealous that he is being paid to do what you have been doing all along...hell, i believe that i am very knowledge about basketball and believe that i can do some of the things that employees of the NBA do..that doesnt mean that SHOULD just get their job..first of the all the INSIDER hasnt even been given a chance to prove himself yet...secondly you have to go through the system...if i were you and i was actually serious about this position i woulda emailed someone at 2k..perhaps in human resources and discussed it with them..maybe even take an internship position (like someone said) because really..resumes for this position don't really exist? (at least in my opinion, im talking about paid positions)..but anyone..just do your thing (on your blog) and then if you truly are better..people will catch on and you will be noticed...telling them to just give you a job i think just really hurt your credibility
NorcalBalla23
October 2nd, 2008, 10:29 PM
I vote for rashidi. He's obsessed and gets it done.
mcgradybunch
October 2nd, 2008, 10:31 PM
LOL...The term obsessed is an understatement my cali bruda...dude KNOWS HIS S H ..
benfitz22
October 3rd, 2008, 12:23 AM
signage...
OVzBaCK
October 3rd, 2008, 01:15 AM
rashidi should get it hands down!!!!!!!
scandgolden2417
October 3rd, 2008, 01:32 AM
Ok i want to ask Rashidi a question,
How would you rate these 4 players?
Just ovr rating:
Kevin Garnett
Kobe Bryant
Tim Duncan
LeBron James
If and after you answer I'll see if you get my vote.
budtokinkilla
October 3rd, 2008, 01:35 AM
i hope its sumone from nba tv, or kevin smith, rick kamlin or sumtin
JFX Music
October 5th, 2008, 07:21 AM
Rashidi is tha man for th 2k insider job
i sign
BubbaTough
October 5th, 2008, 09:13 AM
I don't care if Rashidi is the insider. I do care that the insider has the time / energy to invest in his job that Rashidi does. If I have to sit around waiting for the insider to do his job when Rashidi would obviously be quick and responsive to league changes....that will be annoying. A good example will be my annoyance if there is not an update available on the 7th, when we all know there would be if Rashidi was king.
Krucialist
October 5th, 2008, 03:28 PM
I don't care if Rashidi is the insider. I do care that the insider has the time / energy to invest in his job that Rashidi does. If I have to sit around waiting for the insider to do his job when Rashidi would obviously be quick and responsive to league changes....that will be annoying. A good example will be my annoyance if there is not an update available on the 7th, when we all know there would be if Rashidi was king.
I sign for the reasons listed above