V O T E : 2K10 cover

[amid]

The final 4...

most votes Saturday at noon receives a $50 Gamestop gift card


Official contest song
by Ebineezer!
http://www.myspace.com/2kgridironleague
(listen while voting)



http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc73/tjspeaks/contestfin.jpg

comments? post below...

(sing along 2K nation)

chorus

We making this song just for 2K sports,
The Big Wigs in the suits always reading reports,
Throw a dog a bone, so we can get off that porch
And watch us come out like election day and show our support
We nominate you to be the chief in command-----
All Pro is proof, you can supply the demand-----
So I give you a hand----, in fact a standing ovation
Wont you give us 2K10 for your 2k nation

verse 1

I just want to vent but don't know where to begin,
I got a dream like MLK that you'll make 2k10,
If you make 2K10, then 2K wins,
The proof is in the pudding here's the case I present,
A customizable game, you get undeniable fame
Where online you can play in the snow or the rain,
And for the football phenes, that once had football dreams,
You can make your own teams and even stadium scenes,
Give us nice options like Flavor of Love,
Where we can manage a franchise and pricing for grub
With all the above, there's no need for a license
That’s a thing of the past just like Mike Tyson
It's a useless piece of paper that we really don't need,
I'd rather make my own Ray Lewis and Ed Reed,
So please proceed to give us what we need,
Because we itching for a hit, so we can be at ease-----

chorus

verse 2

Excuse my grammar, Don't take it as slander,
But we need your programmers, working in their ba-jam-as
To give us a gift like their nickname is Santa
And make another football game that's crazy bananas,
You know we're the fans of---, the sideline cameras---
Three dimensional crowd that when you score they stand up---
Linebackers ripped like they did time in the slander---,
This game for grown men not babies in pampers--,
2K's the grizzly bear of games, and EA is the panda
And their commentaries dry just like Dandruff--
I thought that was a crime, why aren't they in handcuffs?
We need them out the way so the king can stand up---,
I see their games and laugh, though I'm feeling the grass,
Other than that; John take your game, and shove it straight up your !@#
Give us those classic graphics, that’s sharp like a cactus,
So I can pop a QB like springs in a mattress

chorus

verse 3

I conclude your honor I think our case has been made,
The gameplay's ingenious by 2k---,
Presentations the best thing since pants with pockets,
If they make a generic game then they keep more of the profit,
And make a few additions like tailgating fans,
More company logos around the field and the stands,
Before you dismiss this, My star Witness,
The All-Pro fans willing to give them business,
Here's the logistics, its real simplistic,
Don't turn your back on us like those AIG misfits
Football is America's most popular sport,
If you want to call me out I can provide the support,
Yall took the time out to publish tennis and ping pong,
I'm ready to rampage like Godzilla and King Kong,
We don't want you to fail us like execs at Enron
We just want 2K10 so we can get our sim on.

LAST CHORUS-

We making this song just for 2K sports,
And here's a few dude's willing to show their support,
The whole GRIDIRON league, Amid, and Valdy
twosilk, Funky resident, El Greazy and Numbski,
NFLHitman, Hibachi, and Brownster
The medicine we need we can get over the counter
At any EB games, or our local Gamestop
But we don't understand why you made the game stop
2k is the epitome, Listen to me Lyrically
Repeat
Repeat
2K is the epitome listen to me Lyrically
Everybody in the forums know that they are feeling me
2K is the epitome
repeat
repeat
.
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[ShadowMaster101]

I considered entry #6 one of the best... He didn't rip the logo like all the other ones did

[ElGreazy78]

There is no number 6.

[mmasajo]

There is no number 6.

He's talking about this one:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc73/tjspeaks/1ct-2.png

[amid]

There is no number 6.
He is referring to the original thread. #6 did not make final 4.

[mmasajo]

I think a red flag needs to be thrown. The call on the field needs to be reviewed :rotfl:

[ShadowMaster101]

I think a red flag needs to be thrown. The call on the field needs to be reviewed :rotfl:

ha i dunno, i thought urs and mine would be the only to qualify seeing how all these have clear players on it, thought that was against the rule...

[brownster14]

ha i dunno, i thought urs and mine would be the only to qualify seeing how all these have clear players on it, thought that was against the rule...

My guy was a staged actor. He's working *BROADWAY* during the evening. Great actor!!!


He also earns extra money working at Pizza Hut on the weekends. That smile helps with good customer service. :D

[ElGreazy78]

I thought the rules were that there could be no specific players & NFL rights. In my case, I removed the team logos, NFL logos & changed the colors of all uniforms.

If I were to have known that wouldn't work I would have gone in a completely different direction. Also, if I would have known people would nit-pick over the use of the official APF logo I would have made a much easier one to incorporate myself.

If you folks want to you can disqualify mine to make it easier for everyone else.

[mmasajo]

ha i dunno, i thought urs and mine would be the only to qualify seeing how all these have clear players on it, thought that was against the rule...

I know, Patrick Willis was a problem but you can clearly tell who those guys are on the 2nd one.

[amid]

I think a red flag needs to be thrown. The call on the field needs to be reviewed :rotfl:

the ruling in the forum stands

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc73/tjspeaks/ref-2.jpg

[stlrs95]

I see Joey Porter. :lol:

[ShadowMaster101]

the ruling in the forum stands

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc73/tjspeaks/ref-2.jpg

hahahahaha

[mmasajo]

I see Joey Porter. :lol:

Yeah must be Ed Hochuli, on the field.

http://www.courant.com/media/photo/2006-10/25809855.jpg

[Gunther]

Ronde Barber
Joey Porter
Takeo Spikes

:)

[mmasajo]

No love for PS3 covers either.

[amid]

No NFL logos present. You can replicate appearance and numbers as a CAP. The lawyers said it was a go. Press on...

[mmasajo]

No NFL logos present. You can replicate appearance and numbers as a CAP. The lawyers said it was a go. Press on...

So why did I get an email about changing patrick willis? He was in his college uni, and no logos were present.

[amid]

it was a close up undeniable photo of him.

[mmasajo]

What about the nfl shield, joey porter, spikes and barber?

[amid]

generic shield, far away guys with helmets covering their heads (can hardly see their face), no logos

[mmasajo]

Did you guys consider looking at how 2k does the covers for their recent games? They look something like this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41eJupfmSjL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CXW4mD0ML._AA280_.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g306/merv-illest/APF2k10.gif?t=1224612360

[turtl83]

Ronde Barber
Joey Porter
Takeo Spikes

:)

Ronde Barber wishes his arms looked like that.
It's Brian Dawkins

[stlrs95]

I'll put in a write in vote for: Football the way it was meant to be

Not sure how that one didn't make the cut.

[brownster14]

Not sure how that one didn't make the cut.


Probably because those Baltimore boys are a bit different that most people.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/image/2006/10/15/016232075.jpg

Obviously the Ravens played New Orleans the week before and this guy expressed himself ALOT!

[amid]

that's DRAIN53!! he likes jewery

[ElGreazy78]

Here ya go, now hater proof::rolleyes:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c273/el_greazy/apf2k10-haterproof.jpg

[amid]

Your first one is fine El Greazy.

[mmasajo]

No one is hating on you, it's just the rules weren't applied when they looked at yours oppose to others.

Here's one I made for fun...

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g306/merv-illest/APF2K10-1.jpg

[ShadowMaster101]

Did you guys consider looking at how 2k does the covers for their recent games? They look something like this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41eJupfmSjL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51CXW4mD0ML._AA280_.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g306/merv-illest/APF2k10.gif?t=1224612360

thats my point, these other covers are ripped logos...

[ElGreazy78]

Your first one is fine El Greazy.
I was just joshin' around a little. It was no big deal, plus I had some free time to mess with it.

[amid]

nothing in the rules against duplicating the game logo... companies often use the same format year after year.

[mmasajo]

I'll put in a write in vote for: Football the way it was meant to be

Not sure how that one didn't make the cut.

I'm baffled as well. I'm not saying mine is the best one, but why not have 5 entries. Where was it mentioned that there would only be 4 picked :confused:

[amid]

This is what was stated:

"Based on the criteria above, several will be selected and voted upon."

http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191015

[mmasajo]

This is what was stated:

"Based on the criteria above, several will be selected and voted upon."

http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191015

can u post the criteria that was above?

[stlrs95]

Football the way it was meant to be and Real is Better are good.

The other three that are up for voting are cheesy as hell. If a game company put out covers like those, the game wouldn't even get a look.

[mmasajo]

Football the way it was meant to be and Real is Better are good.

The other three that are up for voting are cheesy as hell. If a game company put out covers like those, the game wouldn't even get a look.

I wasn't gonna go there, but well said and my thoughts exactly. Green with envy is clean but that guy just looks like a chump trying to act hard, the others are just sloppy.

[amid]

V O T E !

Polls close Sat. at noon.

[Slant81]

No one is hating on you, it's just the rules weren't applied when they looked at yours oppose to others.

Here's one I made for fun...

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g306/merv-illest/APF2K10-1.jpg

WOW this one is sick!!! That would really catch my attention on store shelves.

[Slant81]

I wasn't gonna go there, but well said and my thoughts exactly. Green with envy is clean but that guy just looks like a chump trying to act hard, the others are just sloppy.

LMAO yeah dood you got screwed. I don't even think the ones that were picked would pass quality control.

[ElGreazy78]

In all due repsect, we were given a day or two to put them up. Also, I'd like to see you make anything better than the one's posted. Don't rip people for actually trying while you didn't put forth any effort.

I could care less about winning, just happy to see people participating instead of hating.

mmasajo is the only one who has a legitimate beef. His cover is nice but it's still clearly Patrick Willis' face, even with the picture set to invert.

[Slant81]

If i had known about this, i would have gone with this......

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq315/slant81/2K10.jpg

Thanks for the template mmasajo!

[mmasajo]

If i had known about this, i would have gone with this......

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq315/slant81/2K10.jpg

Thanks for the template mmasajo!

Nice use of my template. I'm digging the background.

[dtrain053]

You guys are missing the point.

Rule # 1. This limited budget game will not feature a paid athlete or coach. A generic athlete may be used or any other non athlete.

Also while Cushing isn't paid, he couldn't be a cover boy at this point because of NCAA regulations.

So neither of your covers would qualify, and the Cushing one isn't even legal.

[Slant81]

You guys are missing the point.

Rule # 1. This limited budget game will not feature a paid athlete or coach. A generic athlete may be used or any other non athlete.

Also while Cushing isn't paid, he couldn't be a cover boy at this point because of NCAA regulations.

So neither of your covers would qualify, and the Cushing one isn't even legal.

Who is Cushing? And did that cover make the final four?

[dtrain053]

Who is Cushing? And did that cover make the final four?

My fault I ment Rey Maualuga. Not sure why I was thinking of Brian Cushing. My point is the same.

[Slant81]

My fault I ment Rey Maualuga. Not sure why I was thinking of Brian Cushing. My point is the same.

Ok so why did Joey Porter make it? You can tell it's him even with his helmet on. This one was submitted and has no one on the cover.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g306/merv-illest/APF2k10.gif?t=1224612360

mmasajo has a point.

[mmasajo]

Ok so why did Joey Porter make it? You can tell it's him even with his helmet on. This one was submitted and has no one on the cover.

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g306/merv-illest/APF2k10.gif?t=1224612360

mmasajo has a point.

It's all good man, I don't even care. I'm just a fan of the game and would love to see another one. Just not a fan of how this contest was handled.

[amid]

Those guys are far away. With the helmets on, you can barely see their face. There are no team logos. I can recreate players that appear as all those guys in APF. They pass as generics. A close up unmistakable photo of a NFL player was ruled out. He could have been replaced with a generic player and that entry would have made the finals. The entry above that was submitted doesn't qualify.

This is a close election for the prize...

VOTE ON !

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[trueshotcaller]

mmasajo wuz robbed....

[ShadowMaster101]

This is to the statement that 2K sports uses the same logos year after year...

http://www.media-assault.com/gamereviews/images/nfl2kbox.jpg
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/dreamcast-games/119-1.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/611KR81E69L._AA280_.jpg
http://www.tycromedia.com/images/PS2-NFL-2K3.gif
http://media.gamestats.com/gg/image/ESPNNFLFootball2k4_PS2Boxboxart_160w.jpg
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JQA30D1WL._AA280_.jpg
http://keehack.com/images/PS3%20%20All-Pro%20Football%202K8.jpg

After seeing all these, there is not one year 2k reproduces a certain logo. Something new is put in every year. Thats why I didn't like people ripping the logo. Its not very creative...

[mmasajo]

Yeah they usually go with the theme of the rest of their sports titles that year. Which is very similar to this:

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g306/merv-illest/2K10-Template.jpg

[sportsman312000]

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/afroholic315/2k10.jpg

[mmasajo]

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u311/afroholic315/2k10.jpg

Now that's freak'n awesome afro!!

[ElGreazy78]

This is to the statement that 2K sports uses the same logos year after year...

After seeing all these, there is not one year 2k reproduces a certain logo. Something new is put in every year. Thats why I didn't like people ripping the logo. Its not very creative...
Coming from a graphic design and marketing stand point this is one reasons APF didn't sell too well. There is no brand recognition because 2K feel like they need to change the format of the cover art and logos consistantly; just now have they started to make each sports games' covers look similar (as seen with the NBA & MLB 2k games). They relied too much on the "face" or player of the game selling the product instead of the gameplay and game itself. Think about it, they used guys like Allen Iverson & Randy Moss as the "faces of the game" then started flip-flopping to other players (TO, Urlacher, etc). Madden could get away with changing players every year because everyone knew "Madden" as a brand name game, but people didn't know "2k football" at all. In marketing you learn that from the beginning: make a recognizable logo that will stay the same all the time.

How would it be for Pepsi to compete against ***e (it filters out the ___a Cola?) if they changed their bottle & logo every year? How would Burger King compete with McDonalds if they changed their signature foods every year? 2K needs some continuity and a whole new marketing approach. In all honesty, I think many of the APF home-made covers we've posted look way better than the actual APF2K8 cover.

[ElGreazy78]

By the way, this is the best review I've seen on the game. It completely did it justice in everyway. Too bad the review sites didn't even give it a chance.

http://www.spike.com/video/all-pro-football-2k8/2886456

[mmasajo]

Coming from a graphic design and marketing stand point this is one reasons APF didn't sell too well. There is no brand recognition because 2K feel like they need to change the format of the cover art and logos consistantly; just now have they started to make each sports games' covers look similar (as seen with the NBA & MLB 2k games). They relied too much on the "face" or player of the game selling the product instead of the gameplay and game itself. Think about it, they used guys like Allen Iverson & Randy Moss as the "faces of the game" then started flip-flopping to other players (TO, Urlacher, etc). Madden could get away with changing players every year because everyone knew "Madden" as a brand name game, but people didn't know "2k football" at all. In marketing you learn that from the beginning: make a recognizable logo that will stay the same all the time.

How would it be for Pepsi to compete against ***e (it filters out the ___a Cola?) if they changed their bottle & logo every year? How would Burger King compete with McDonalds if they changed their signature foods every year? 2K needs some continuity and a whole new marketing approach. In all honesty, I think many of the APF home-made covers we've posted look way better than the actual APF2K8 cover.

Meh...Had they not lost the ESPN license their title logo would have been similar every year and would have been the "BRAND RECOGNITION" of their game. ESPN 2K was gaining popularity and IMO would be the football game everyone would be playing right now just like NBA 2K is vs. Live. Also if one of those home-made covers were to pass, I would think exactly that..."That looks like a home-made cover, WTF!!!".

[ElGreazy78]

Here is the cover I originally wanted to make based off the original ads which I though were a million times better than the actual game cover:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c273/el_greazy/Football/apfad-aikman-thumb.jpg http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c273/el_greazy/Football/apfad-rice-thumb.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c273/el_greazy/Football/apfad-singletary-thumb.jpg http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c273/el_greazy/Football/apfad-soundtrack-thumb.jpg

Here is the "remixed" version I made: ;)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c273/el_greazy/Football/apf2k10-remix-1.jpg

[Gunther]

Here is the cover I originally wanted to make based off the original ads which I though were a million times better than the actual game cover:


Thats awesome!
I gotta admit. The first time I saw the actual game cover I literally cringed and felt really disappointed.
By that I meant I knew that it would never catch anyone's eye and cause them to look at the game unless they were already interested in it. I remember looking at it and thinking "Who did this its awful..."
At the very least it should have had the real players pictures on the cover instead of some god awful drawing of them. That in my opinion was one of many major mistakes they made when marketing the game.

[ShadowMaster101]

By the way, this is the best review I've seen on the game. It completely did it justice in everyway. Too bad the review sites didn't even give it a chance.

http://www.spike.com/video/all-pro-football-2k8/2886456

seein that video makes me wonder wat the heck 2k is doing...

[xylocaine]

Just make a game, I don't care what they call it.
2k wussed out this year in my opinion, but may have had to do with EA offering to buy them out...

[amid]

This is a very close election for the prize.

Polls are open until Saturday at noon.


V O T E !

[MiXeD HaTz]

u suck!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wolfman23]

I liked Merv's entry, but wasn't able to vote for it. Ah, the land of the free!!!

[amid]

The forum has spoken...

Congrats to El Greazy for the winning entry. PM me your address and I'll get the prize in the mail by Monday.