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FLAxWLESS
October 24th, 2008, 10:37 PM
Here they are!!! These are what we're slated to use, but I'm open to any feedback especially if you guys compare it you other completed leagues you have been in (I just used NSL season 3 as a guideline).

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Player Progression Guidelines

There are two types of progressions in this league:

1) Automatic Progression
- Anytime a player breaks an NFL season record listed below the player MUST BE ELEVATED to GOLD status.

Official NFL Season Records
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RB - Season Rushing Yards = 2105
RB - Rushing Season TD's = 28
RB - Total Season TD's via Rush&Catch = 31
QB - Season Rushing Yards = 1039
QB - Season Passing Yards = 5084
QB - Season Passing TD's = 49
WR - Season Yards = 1936 **DeSean Jackson NFLP 3**
WR - Season TD's = 23
TE - Season Yards= 1344
IDP - Season Sacks = 23
IDP - Season Interceptions = 14
Punt Returner - Season TD's returning punts = 4
Kickoff Returner - Season TD's returning KO's = 4

- Any time a player ranks in the Top 3 in ALL relevant categories, the player MUST BE ELEVATED to GOLD status:

QB – ALL categories + INTs < 20
RB – ALL categories + TDs > 10
WR – ALL categories + TDs > 10
TE – ALL categories + TDs > 8

- Any time a BRONZE player meets GOLD player guidelines, the player MUST BE ELEVATED to SILVER status.

2) Optional progression – if you earn the guidelines set you can move you player up a tier the following season if you choose:

Statistics of Relevance:
QB: Passer Rating, Completion %, Yardage, TDs
RB: Attempts, Yards, YPC, TDs
WR: Receptions, Yards, YPC, TDs
TE: Receptions, Yards, YPC, TDs

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Offense
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QB Standards
Gold: Any 3 of QB Rating: 120.0 or better, Completion %: 60% or better, Yardage: 3100 or better, TDs > 32 AND MUST HAVE INTs < 20 or Top 3 the league in passer rating
Silver: Any 3 or – QB Rating: 100.0 or better, Completion %: 55% or better, Yardage: 2500 or better, TDs: 25 or better AND MUST HAVE INTs LESS THAN TDs
Bronze – Everyone else

RB Standards
Gold: Any 3 of carriers: 200 or better, Yards: 1300 or better, YPC: 7.0 or better (minimum 100 carries), TDs: 15 or better AND AT ALEAST 10 rushing TDs or Top 3 in the league in rushing yardage
Silver: Any 3 of carriers 125 or better, Yards: 1000 or better, YPC: 5.5 (minimum 100 carries) or better, TDs 8 or better
Bronze – Everyone else

WR Standards
Gold: Any 3 of Receptions: 60 receptions or better, Yards: 1200 or better, YPC: 20.0 or better (minimum 25 catches), 12 TDs or better AND AT LEAST 10 TDs or Top 3 in the league in receiving yardage
Silver: Any 3 of Receptions: 40 receptions or better, Yards: 950 or better, YPC: 15.0 (minimum 25 catches) or better, TDs: 8 or better
Bronze – Everyone else

TE Standards
Gold: Any 3 of Receptions: 50, Yards: 1100 or better, YPC: 18.0 or better, 12 TDs AND AT LEAST 8 TDs
Silver: Any 3 of Receptions: 30, Yards: 850 or better, YPC: 13.0 or better, 8 TDs or better
Bronze – Everyone else

A player can only move up 1 tier per year (so no bronze to gold) UNLESS

(1) Breaks an NFL/NFLP record listed above with Bronze Player
(2) Ranks in Top 5 in 3 categories + stipulation

Regression
Regression is NOT optional, it is mandatory.

Gold players regresses to silver if they DO NOT meet 2 of their tier standards OR

QB – more INTs than TDs
RB – Are not their teams leading rusher, 5 or more fumbles, or YPC < 5
WR - Are not their teams leading receiver*, 10 or more drops, or YPC < 15
TE – Are not their teams leading receiver*, 10 or more drops or YPC < 13

If a Gold player does not meet Top 20 standards or hits one of the guidelines THEY MUST BE DEMOTED to silver.

(*unless there is another Gold WR/TE on the team)

Silver players regress to bronze if they do not meet AT LEAST 1 silver standard:

QB – Throws > 25 INTs with more INTs than TDs
RB – Is not their teams 2nd leading rusher, 5 or more fumbles, or YPC < 5
WR - Is not their teams 2nd leading receiver^, 10 or more drops, or YPC < 15
TE – Is not their teams 2nd leading receiver,^ 10 or more drops or YPC < 13

(^ - unless there is a player of a higher/equal tier, if there is than if they are not their teams #2 receiver, unless there is a 3rd player of higher or equal tier, if so then if player is not #4)

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Defense
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Progression/Regression

Coverage Plays - Pass Defended + INT
Big Plays - Sacks + INT + FF + FR


Gold LB– If player records 70 or more total tackles, coverage plays at least 16 coverage plays, or 6 or more INTs, 8 or more sacks, 12 or more big plays
REGRESSES to silver if they do not have at least 50 total tackles (tackles + assist) OR at least 10 coverage plays (Passes Defended + INTs).

Silver LB– If the player records 60 or more tackles, 13 or more coverage plays, or 3 or more INTs, 8 or more big plays
REGRESSES to bronze if they do not have at least 35 total tackles or at least 7 coverage plays (Passes defended + INTs).

Gold DB – If player records 70 or more total tackles, coverage plays at least 19 coverage plays, or 11 or more INTs, 16 or more big plays
REGRESSES to silver if they do not have at least 50 total tackles (tackles + assist) OR at least 12 coverage plays (Passes Defended + INTs).

Silver DB – If player records 60 or more total tackles, coverage plays at least 15 coverage plays, or 9 or more INTs, 12 or more big plays
REGRESSES to bronze if they do not have at least 35 total tackles or at least 8 coverage plays (Passes defended + INTs).

Gold DE – If player records at least 38 tackles or records 18 sacks
REGRESSES to silver if they do not have at least 15 sacks or at least 28 total tackles

Silver DE – If player records at least 26 tackles or records 10 sacks
REGRESSES to bronze if they do not have at least 10 sacks or at least 20 total tackles

Gold DT -If a player records 26 tackles or records 12 sacks
REGRESSES to silver if they do not have at least 28 tackles or at least 15 sacks

Silver DT - If a player records 20 tackles or 8 sacks
REGRESSES to bronze if they do not have at least 22 tackles or 10 sacks

Player Ability Guidelines

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Offense
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QB
- Laser Arm - The QB must have a completion percentage at or above 60% the previous season.

RB
- Workhorse - The RB must have at least 250 carries over the course of the year (average of 15.6 carries per game). A true workhorse in the NFL carries the rock 20 times per game.

WR/TE
- Route God - Must have 1500 yards for 2 consecutive season AND meet gold or silver standards to earn Route God. Need 1,200 or more to keep.
- Soft Hands - Must have fewer than 8 drops at the end of the season.


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Defense
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Sack Master - Must have at least 9 sacks
Ball Hawk - Must have at least 3 INTs or 15 coverage plays (INTs+PD)


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PLAYER AGING
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As of NFLP4 NFL players will have +1 years added to their 2008 NFL season. NFLP5 will be +2 years, NFLP 6 +3, etc...

1) Any gold or 36 years old or older vet that regresses to bronze through mandatory regression - MUST retire regardless of YRS of experience

2) Players with 28 years old or older CAN NO LONGER progress after they have REGRESSED by optional or mandatory regression.
RATIONALE: After 7 years the player has likely reached his potential

3) Players 31 years of age or older CAN NO LONGER PROGRESS NO MATTER WHAT and regress when Golds do not meet 3 out of 4 statistics (instead of 2) or Silvers (2 instead of 1) or 2 for defense legends (instead of 1).
RATIONALE: after 30 years players must worker hard to maintain performance.

4) Golds @ 33 years old = 4 abilities, Gold @ 35 years old= 3 abilites
RATIONALE: The older the player gets, the fewer things they can do that they did in the past.

5) Physical Skills decline No speed burner = 33 years, No BAB or Speed Burner > 35 years of age.
Hops and strength are gone @ 35 years old.

RATIONALE: Self-explanatory

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Gold Player Regression
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Ok everyone.

I've decided on an easy system that will make my life easier and yours regarding gold players who are regressing.

If you have a regressing gold you have two ways to fill that void.

1) Trade for a gold (which is already in place)

2) You keep your gold as is BUT HE WILL GET NO ABILITIES. So what's the downside to this if your player keeps his gold status? The player will be on "Retirement Watch" as he can no longer play at the level he is used to and no one wants him (as you are unabale totrade him away). The next time he faces REGRESSION (mandatory or optional - basically he cannot regress anymore) the player will be retired and can no longer be used. On the roster they will be marked with [RW]. Once RW status is earned it sticks with the player even if they are traded... so basically even on a new team they cannot regress and face retirement.

RATIONALE: This makes it easier to track and less work for me. I don't have to sift through rosters looking who is the next best candidate for Gold status on each team. Also this doesn't allow freebie progressions.. again the only way to progress is to EARN it. It's simple and fair.

3) If you cannot fill a gold spot at anytime you may use a GOLD KICKER or PUNTER with 1 ability in that place.

twosilk
October 30th, 2008, 06:29 AM
hey flaxwless, just a question about the wr/te progression, that ypc average is a little high dont you think?? I mean 15 yards a catch just to make it to silver?? I mean that is a little hard if you run a possession type offense. I don't throw deep alot because that is not my style of offense like to throw quick passes, but because of this I will never have a wr/te progress because for every 5 yard catch they make that means they need 2 or 3 20 yard catches, and that is not likely. I know that there are several that are reaching that goal, but at what cost, sometimes that statisical goals in this league change your whole strategy, I mean I have a reciever on pace for 60 catches this season, but because I dont use him as a deep threat, he will never be more than a bronze. Just my vent for today.

FLAxWLESS
October 30th, 2008, 10:29 AM
hey flaxwless, just a question about the wr/te progression, that ypc average is a little high dont you think?? I mean 15 yards a catch just to make it to silver?? I mean that is a little hard if you run a possession type offense. I don't throw deep alot because that is not my style of offense like to throw quick passes, but because of this I will never have a wr/te progress because for every 5 yard catch they make that means they need 2 or 3 20 yard catches, and that is not likely. I know that there are several that are reaching that goal, but at what cost, sometimes that statisical goals in this league change your whole strategy, I mean I have a reciever on pace for 60 catches this season, but because I dont use him as a deep threat, he will never be more than a bronze. Just my vent for today.

I look into it but if you can't meet the YPC you still have rec, total yardage, and TDs. It takes some work but it can be done. The YPC is high but if you look many of the top receivers in the game average more than 20 ypc.

However, I'll take a look into and see what's going down.

dtrain053
October 30th, 2008, 10:38 AM
Speaking of the standards Flaxwless, can you take a look at QB rating for Golds? I think 120 is a tad high. Looking through past seasons I think Brady is the only QB to do it multiple times, and only 5-8 total times has that happened over a course of a season, and not all of those QB's played all 16 games.

I think 110 or 115 is a better benchmark. I'm not just saying that because I'm below 120 right now, because even though thats the case I am on pace to reach 3 other catagories (Yardage: 3100 or better, TDs > 32 AND MUST HAVE INTs < 20 or Top 3 the league in passer rating)

FLAxWLESS
October 30th, 2008, 10:52 AM
Speaking of the standards Flaxwless, can you take a look at QB rating for Golds? I think 120 is a tad high. Looking through past seasons I think Brady is the only QB to do it multiple times, and only 5-8 total times has that happened over a course of a season, and not all of those QB's played all 16 games.

I think 110 or 115 is a better benchmark. I'm not just saying that because I'm below 120 right now, because even though thats the case I am on pace to reach 3 other catagories (Yardage: 3100 or better, TDs > 32 AND MUST HAVE INTs < 20 or Top 3 the league in passer rating)

Yah I think QB stats are ones that have to be re-done. When I originally did that we had some better QB passers out that that maybe skewed the totals as they were killing it with SIlver QBs and Bronze QBs.

dtrain053
October 30th, 2008, 11:28 AM
Yah I think QB stats are ones that have to be re-done. When I originally did that we had some better QB passers out that that maybe skewed the totals as they were killing it with SIlver QBs and Bronze QBs.

That was what I was getting at the end of last season. If Ben hadn't regresses I still would have brought it up. I copied and pasted your standards, and put what I think each mark should be considering the league averages in parenthesis...

QB Standards
Gold: Any 3 of QB Rating: 120.0 (110.0) or better, Completion %: 60% or better, Yardage: 3100 (2700) or better, TDs > 32 (28) AND MUST HAVE INTs < 20 or Top 3 the league in passer rating
Silver: Any 3 or – QB Rating: 100.0 or better, Completion %: 55% or better, Yardage: 2500 (2300) or better, TDs: 25 (22) or better AND MUST HAVE INTs LESS THAN TDs

ballin5692
October 30th, 2008, 12:55 PM
WR Standards
Gold: Any 3 of Receptions: 60 receptions or better, Yards: 1200 or better, YPC: 20.0 or better (minimum 25 catches), 12 TDs or better AND AT LEAST 10 TDs or Top 3 in the league in receiving yardage
Silver: Any 3 of Receptions: 40 receptions or better, Yards: 950 or better, YPC: 15.0 (minimum 25 catches) or better, TDs: 8 or better
Bronze – Everyone else



Question.

Since I have 2 receivers say there stats look like this

DeSean Jackson 13 TDs 1100 yards and 60+ receptions
Randy Moss 10 TDs 1300 yards 60+ receptions.

Do they both stay gold?

FLAxWLESS
October 30th, 2008, 01:49 PM
Question.

Since I have 2 receivers say there stats look like this

DeSean Jackson 13 TDs 1100 yards and 60+ receptions
Randy Moss 10 TDs 1300 yards 60+ receptions.

Do they both stay gold?

Yes. Golds need 2 out of 3 to stay gold... but player's age also affects more.

dtrain053
November 1st, 2008, 07:34 PM
2) Players with 28 years old or older CAN NO LONGER progress after they have REGRESSED by optional or mandatory regression.
RATIONALE: After 7 years the player has likely reached his potential

I think this rule needs to be thought about.

What if a team has 2 or more mandatory Golds which forces a Gold to be regressed?

It is possible this season that Gates, Watson, and Roethlisberger will all be mandatory golds at seasons end.

Effectively your forcing me to choose who will be a gold, and who would be a silver based on age.

Maybe something like this;

2) Players with 28 years old or older CAN NO LONGER progress after they have REGRESSED to bronze by optional or mandatory regression.

All Gold players 28 years old or older can no longer progress after they have regressed through mandatory regression.

Tell22
November 4th, 2008, 06:36 AM
Two Questions FLAx....

#1. did you add a year to the ages of the players or are they all current now.

#2. Willis and Gore are [RW] players but can i stll optionall regress them if I wanted to

dtrain053
November 4th, 2008, 09:58 PM
Someone asked this last season but I didn't see your response:

Are tackles for a loss considered big plays? If not, why not? Just curious either way.

FLAxWLESS
November 4th, 2008, 10:20 PM
Dtrain....

1) I need to think about player aging. I am still inclined to keep it as is b/c that's the point is a player vary rarely improves after 7 years in the league. The player can still be productive but often times takes a back seat in importance to the team. So you decision as to which gold can no longer progress mimics that.

2) Tackles for loss are not considered big plays because it would double count sacks as well since they are considered TFL. I guess I could subtract sacks for TFL to get tackles not attributed to sacks. More work.... but I'll look at numbers to see if they make a big difference in progressions.

Tell.... all players are +1 years as of the 2008 season (NFLP4). So whatever age you posted for validation by next season it will be +2 for NFLP5.

They cannot be optionally regressed, but that may change a bit. Thinking maybe...

1) Any mandatory regression results in retirement.
2) The player can be optionally regressed BUT 1) can never progress 2) any further regression optional or mandatory results in retirement.

ballin5692
November 5th, 2008, 12:13 PM
After this season I think we should have a vote or something to change the WR standards rule if you have two Gold receivers on your team. I am probably the first person in NFLP to have 2 gold receivers on my team so I am the only one that can say this. Its kind of hard to have both receivers meet the standards at the end of the season having to meet 3 out of 4 standards. In my case I have a fast receiver (DeSean Jackson) and big receiver (Randy Moss). Now obviously most people have been doubling DeSean Jackson since he had 1900 receiving yards and since he is fast people always have a safety there shadowing him making it hard to throw deep. Therefore I cannot throw deep to him so now its hard to get 20 ypc. Now well you say there are still 3 other standards to have. The 1200 receiving yards and 12 touchdowns standard comes into play now. Well when is the last time you have seen 2 receivers on the same team have over 1200 receiving yards plus 12 or more touchdowns each? The only two players i can think of are Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison. Ill show there stats from 2004 until now since reggie waynes first 1200 yard season was in 2004.

Reggie Wayne
2004 1210 yds 12 tds
2005 1055 yds 5 tds
2006 1310 yds 9 tds
2007 1510 yds 10 tds

Marvin Harrison
2004 1113 yds 15 tds
2005 1146 yds 12 tds
2006 1366 12 tds
2007 247 yds 1 td

Now every year besides reggie waynes 2004 season and Marvins 2006 season they either met the receiving standard or the touchdown standard. Both receivers never met both standards in the same season. The closest they came was in 2006. Also Marvin Harrisons stats droped significantly after the signing of reggie wayne which shows you that when you have 2 #1 receivers on the same team your stats drop. Reggie Wayne had his breakout season in 2003. From 1999 until 2002 Marvin Harrison never droped below 1400 receiving yards and had a 1700 yard season in 2002 and a 1500 yard season in 2001. In 2003 when Wayne proved he was a great receiver Marvin Harrisons stats droped to 1200 receiving yards in 2003. Now after 4 consecutive 1400+ yd season as soon as Reggie Wayne comes into the picture his stats drop down to 1200 receiving yards. Also if you notice Reggie Wayne had a 1500 yard season when Marvin Harrison was injured. More proof showing that it is easier to have a great season when you are the only #1 receiver on the team. Now I dont think all of that stuff is a coincidence.

Now I dont know if this is enough proof to you. But this shows that when you have two #1 receivers on the same team it is alot harder to have the great stats you will have when you are the only #1. I think that from what shown here that when you have 2 Gold receivers on the same team the standards should drop to this. 20 ypc, 60 receptions, 1000 receiving yards, and 10 touchdowns. Or you can change so that when you have 2 receivers on the same team they each only need to make 2 of the standards instead of 3.

FLAxWLESS
November 5th, 2008, 12:39 PM
After this season I think we should have a vote or something to change the WR standards rule if you have two Gold receivers on your team. I am probably the first person in NFLP to have 2 gold receivers on my team so I am the only one that can say this. Its kind of hard to have both receivers meet the standards at the end of the season having to meet 3 out of 4 standards. In my case I have a fast receiver (DeSean Jackson) and big receiver (Randy Moss). Now obviously most people have been doubling DeSean Jackson since he had 1900 receiving yards and since he is fast people always have a safety there shadowing him making it hard to throw deep. Therefore I cannot throw deep to him so now its hard to get 20 ypc. Now well you say there are still 3 other standards to have. The 1200 receiving yards and 12 touchdowns standard comes into play now. Well when is the last time you have seen 2 receivers on the same team have over 1200 receiving yards plus 12 or more touchdowns each? The only two players i can think of are Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison. Ill show there stats from 2004 until now since reggie waynes first 1200 yard season was in 2004.

Reggie Wayne
2004 1210 yds 12 tds
2005 1055 yds 5 tds
2006 1310 yds 9 tds
2007 1510 yds 10 tds

Marvin Harrison
2004 1113 yds 15 tds
2005 1146 yds 12 tds
2006 1366 12 tds
2007 247 yds 1 td

Now almost every year besides one each they both met the standards for receiving TDs and yards in the same season. Every year they only met one and in 2005 reggie wayne did not even reach the standard for either of them. Also statistically Marvin Harrisons stats droped significantly after the signing of reggie wayne which shows you that when you have 2 #1 receivers on the same team your stats drop. Reggie Wayne had his breakout season in 2003. From 1999 until 2002 Marvin Harrison never droped below 1400 receiving yards and had a 1700 yard season in 2002 and a 1500 yard season in 2001. In 2003 when Wayne proved he was a great receiver Marvin Harrisons stats droped to 1200 receiving yards in 2003. Now after 4 consecutive 1400+ yd season as soon as Reggie Wayne comes into the picture his stats drop down to 1200 receiving yards. I dont think thats a coincidence.

Now I dont know if this is enough proof to you. But this shows that when you have two #1 receivers on the same team it is alot harder to have the great stats you will have when you are the only #1.

First off gold players only need 2 our 4 guidelines to remain gold unless they are affected by player aging. In your case Randy Moss is affected by player aging so:

Randy Moss needs 3 out of 4 categories to remain gold
DeSean Jackson needs 2 out of 4 categories to remain gold

Also the Gold standards will not be changed just because you have 2 gold WRs. They based on the standards ONE WR has to meet to become a gold in this game. That's all they are... they're not supposed to account for 2 gold WRs.

That's the beauty of the NFLP system... you gotta use it or lose it. It helps balance out the game play and team building because you have to play the way you actually build your team. If you got a gold HB and gold WR you better be dam sure you have a balanced attack. If you have a gold TE and gold WR you better be passing the ball. It all balances out.

Also... Randy Moss is on pace to shatter yardage and other markers. You are gaining plenty of yardage to have both of your WRs stay gold. It just so happens they are not allocated equally.

Another thing is while real NFL stats are a great baseline... you cannot use them strictly for All Pro Football purposes. It's comparing apples to oranges.

So really there's no reason to change the Gold WR standards because you have two of them.

ballin5692
November 5th, 2008, 12:42 PM
WR Standards
Gold: Any 3 of Receptions: 60 receptions or better, Yards: 1200 or better, YPC: 20.0 or better (minimum 25 catches), 12 TDs or better AND AT LEAST 10 TDs or Top 3 in the league in receiving yardage
Silver: Any 3 of Receptions: 40 receptions or better, Yards: 950 or better, YPC: 15.0 (minimum 25 catches) or better, TDs: 8 or better
Bronze – Everyone else

That says 3 there not 2 so thats basically where i was going from. You probably changed it and never edited it. I guess it will be alot easier now haha because I was thinking I would need to get 3 standards on both of them.

FLAxWLESS
November 5th, 2008, 12:46 PM
WR Standards
Gold: Any 3 of Receptions: 60 receptions or better, Yards: 1200 or better, YPC: 20.0 or better (minimum 25 catches), 12 TDs or better AND AT LEAST 10 TDs or Top 3 in the league in receiving yardage
Silver: Any 3 of Receptions: 40 receptions or better, Yards: 950 or better, YPC: 15.0 (minimum 25 catches) or better, TDs: 8 or better
Bronze – Everyone else

That says 3 there not 2 so thats basically where i was going from. You probably changed it and never edited it. I guess it will be alot easier now haha because I was thinking I would need to get 3 standards on both of them.

That's for progression.... for progression you need 3 out of 4.

To stay gold and it says at the bottom... you need 2 out of 4 unless player aging.

For silver you need 2 out 4, but you only need 1 out of 4 to stay silver.

FLAxWLESS
November 5th, 2008, 12:50 PM
Also it was never changed.... you just had to read further down:

Regression
Regression is NOT optional, it is mandatory.

Gold players regresses to silver if they DO NOT meet 2 of their tier standards OR

QB – more INTs than TDs
RB – Are not their teams leading rusher, 5 or more fumbles, or YPC < 5
WR - Are not their teams leading receiver*, 10 or more drops, or YPC < 15
TE – Are not their teams leading receiver*, 10 or more drops or YPC < 13

If a Gold player does not meet Top 20 standards or hits one of the guidelines THEY MUST BE DEMOTED to silver.

(*unless there is another Gold WR/TE on the team)

Silver players regress to bronze if they do not meet AT LEAST 1 silver standard:

QB – Throws > 25 INTs with more INTs than TDs
RB – Is not their teams 2nd leading rusher, 5 or more fumbles, or YPC < 5
WR - Is not their teams 2nd leading receiver^, 10 or more drops, or YPC < 15
TE – Is not their teams 2nd leading receiver,^ 10 or more drops or YPC < 13

(^ - unless there is a player of a higher/equal tier, if there is than if they are not their teams #2 receiver, unless there is a 3rd player of higher or equal tier, if so then if player is not #4)

ballin5692
November 5th, 2008, 12:51 PM
O haha i just started reading and saw WR standards and i automatically thought to read that. I think you should like put in bold next to that FOR PROGRESSION so the next time a genious like me comes along and writes a book about it being hard to read the standards lol.

dtrain053
November 5th, 2008, 09:49 PM
Flax I was just looking at my stats on XBL.
It shows Antonio Gates as having 8 rushes for 147 yards a 4 TDs, when he only has 3 carries for about 90 yards an 2 TD's.

The other 5 "carries" were WR screens. Any chance you can apply the catches to his reception total? A TD is a TD, and the yardage is pretty minor, but those receptions matter since he is so close with Simmons in targets (Gold has to lead team)

Also Simmons is eligible for ROY right? He is a real NFL rookie that has never been on a roster so I figured he is, but wasn't 100%

FLAxWLESS
November 5th, 2008, 10:37 PM
Flax I was just looking at my stats on XBL.
It shows Antonio Gates as having 8 rushes for 147 yards a 4 TDs, when he only has 3 carries for about 90 yards an 2 TD's.

The other 5 "carries" were WR screens. Any chance you can apply the catches to his reception total? A TD is a TD, and the yardage is pretty minor, but those receptions matter since he is so close with Simmons in targets (Gold has to lead team)

Also Simmons is eligible for ROY right? He is a real NFL rookie that has never been on a roster so I figured he is, but wasn't 100%

I'm gonna have to say no for the screens/carriers. We'll see if it matters in the end but it's just hard to track those tupe of stats.

As for Chaz Schilliens yes he is eligible.

dtrain053
November 6th, 2008, 09:18 AM
I'm gonna have to say no for the screens/carriers. We'll see if it matters in the end but it's just hard to track those tupe of stats.

As for Chaz Schilliens yes he is eligible.

If need be I could point them out Flax... if they are runs left its a TE end around if it was to the right side it was a WR screen.

Awesome news for Schilens