Americas Game II

[nflhitman]

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&l=32555&n=1915

NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

Bowdown - 1999 Broncos:

G: Terrell Davis RB
G: John Elway QB
S: Shannon Sharpe TE
S: Steve At water FS
S: Braxton SS
B: Rod Smith
B: Bill Romonowski ILB
B: Crocket CB
B: Gordon CB
B: Ed McCaffrey WR
B: John Mobley OLB

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Rip, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 2000 Baltimore Ravens:

G: Ray Lewis LB (Leadership Bonus, Quick Feet, Ball hawk)
G: Rod Woodson FS
S: Shannon Sharpe TE (Route god, speed burner)
S: Jamal Lewis RB (Strength, BaB)
S: Trent Dilfer QB (Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
B: Chris McAlister CB (Ball Hawk)
B: Qadry Ismail WR (Soft hands)
B: Duane Starks CB (Quick Feet)
B: Matt Stover K (Accuracy)
B: Kim Herring S (Closing Speed)
B: Peter Boulware OLB (Pass Rush Bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1991 Buffalo Bills:

G: Thurman Thomas RB
G: James Lofton WR
S: Jim Kelly QB - Quick Release, Laser Arm
S: Andre Reed WR
S: Darryl Talley OLB - Ball Hawk, Speed Burner
B: Pete Metzelaars TE
B: Shane Conlan ILB - Strength Bonus
B: Cornelius Bennett OLB - Wrap up Tackler
B: Nate Odomes CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Mark kelso FS/SS - Leadership Bonus
B: Kirby Jackson CB - Closing Speed


Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

[amid]

tjspeaks - 2000 Baltimore Ravens

G: Ray Lewis LB (Leadership Bonus, Quick Feet, Ball hawk)
G: Rod Woodson FS
*S: Shannon Sharpe TE (Route god, speed burner)
S: Ben Coates TE
S: Trent Dilfer QB (Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
B: Chris McAlister CB (Ball Hawk)
B: Jamal Lewis RB (Strength)
B: Duane Starks CB (Quick Feet)
B: Matt Stover K (Accuracy)
B: Kim Herring S (Closing Speed)
B: Peter Boulware OLB ( Pass Rush Bonus )

*using in game abilities for the CAP

[Bowdown]

I am still druged never mind

[FLAxWLESS]

tjspeaks - 2000 Baltimore Ravens

G: Ray Lewis LB (Leadership Bonus, Quick Feet, Ball hawk)
G: Rod Woodson FS
*S: Shannon Sharpe TE (Route god, speed burner)
S: Ben Coates TE
S: Trent Dilfer QB (Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
B: Chris McAlister CB (Ball Hawk)
B: Jamal Lewis RB (Strength)
B: Duane Starks CB (Quick Feet)
B: Matt Stover K (Accuracy)
B: Kim Herring S (Closing Speed)
B: Peter Boulware OLB ( Pass Rush Bonus )

*using in game abilities for the CAP

At least Ray Lewis is a gold this time.

Still disagree Dilfer is a silver on the team... he spilt games with Tony Banks and everyone knows all this team did was... run, run, run with Jamal Lewis. Dilfer is a bronze QB.

Jamal Lewis rushed for 1364 yards and had 6 TDs (total 1660 yards from scrimmage.. 2x than #2 Shannon Sharpe with 810).... he should be silver over Ben Coates as well. Ben Coates only had 9 rec/84 yards that year? He is rostered why?

Team should look like:

G Ray Lewis
G Rod Woodson
S Shannon Sharpe
S Jamal Lewis


S Boulware/McAllister

Bronze: Dilfer
everyone else you had.

The Ravens were the #1 defensive team that year and compared to #14 on offense. The Gold/Silvers should be 3 D/ 2 silver offense, IMO.

Just wanted to throw that out there. It was the one team in America's game that I thought was constructed further from how the real 2000 Ravens were.

[Bowdown]

99 broncos

HB T. Davis
QB J. Elway
TE Sharpe
FS A****er
SS Braxton
WR R. Smith
OLB B. Ramonawski
CB crocket
CB gordon
WR McCafferty
OLB Mobley

[ElGreazy78]

At least Ray Lewis is a gold this time.

Still disagree Dilfer is a silver on the team... he spilt games with Tony Banks and everyone knows all this team did was... run, run, run with Jamal Lewis. Dilfer is a bronze QB.

Jamal Lewis rushed for 1364 yards and had 6 TDs (total 1660 yards from scrimmage.. 2x than #2 Shannon Sharpe with 810).... he should be silver over Ben Coates as well. Ben Coates only had 9 rec/84 yards that year? He is rostered why?

Team should look like:

G Ray Lewis
G Rod Woodson
S Shannon Sharpe
S Jamal Lewis


S Boulware/McAllister

Bronze: Dilfer
everyone else you had.

The Ravens were the #1 defensive team that year and compared to #14 on offense. The Gold/Silvers should be 3 D/ 2 silver offense, IMO.

Just wanted to throw that out there. It was the one team in America's game that I thought was constructed further from how the real 2000 Ravens were.
I've already tried making a case for this as well, but it was shot down for non-concrete reasons of any kind. I even showed statistical proof.

And why are the rules being bent again for Sharpe to have Route God? Yes I understand it's based on his in-game CAP but couldn't I do the same by making another CAP with the same in-game Abilities myself? Say maybe a Silver Marino with a much deserved Rocket & Laser Arm? Or a Silver Jerry Rice for a 2000's Oakland team with Route God & Clutch/Leadership? The rules should either be the same for everyone or no one, not just exceptions to match those who it'll benefit.

[ElGreazy78]

1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

I created a similar team (I believe 1972 or 77 team) but had G Cliff Harris and a Bronze Randy White, needless to say, the team was pretty physical and would cave in o-lines! :cool:

[nyknicks33]

I really enjoyed this league, I thought it was a great great idea.

Im going to go with the 85 Bears

Defense:

LB: Mike Singletary
LB: Otis Wilson
DT: William Perry
DT: Dan Hampton
DE: Richard Dent-Rip, Club
S: Dave Duesron- Ball Hawk, Run Reader
CB: Leslie Frasier: Ball Hawk
CB: Mike Richardson: Ball Hawk


Offense:

QB: Jim Mcmahon-Rocket Arm
HB: Walter Payton
WR: Willie Gault


Offense is going to be a royal pain the behind obviously, but I'm more interested in seeing how a base 46/4-4 will play out.

[amid]

I have elevated Ray Lewis to gold based on making Sharpe a silver reusing his in game abilities (I believe the rules state to reuse their abilities).

As far as Dilfer goes, I will never play another game with a bronze CAP QB. HITMAN can make the call, I will have to opt out of this league and any league if I have to use a bronze CAP QB (they are almost worthless IMO).

fun > realism

[nyknicks33]

I have elevated Ray Lewis to gold based on making Sharpe a silver reusing his in game abilities (I believe the rules state to reuse their abilities).

As far as Dilfer goes, I will never play another game with a bronze CAP QB. HITMAN can make the call, I will have to opt out of this league and any league if I have to use a bronze CAP QB (they are almost worthless IMO).

fun > realism

CAP Bronze QB's will make you pull your hair out. Rocket Arm gives them a fighting chance, other then that, they suck on ice. I hate bronze QBs.

[nflhitman]

If it wasn't for the amount of of suckability that comes with a CAP Bronze QB I would understand this but I have no problem with someone wanting at least a Silver QB since the difference from Bronze to Silver is Huge! I would however amid like to see Ben Coats moved to Bronze if you want to use him since he had very little impact on that team.

[nflhitman]

I created a similar team (I believe 1972 or 77 team) but had G Cliff Harris and a Bronze Randy White, needless to say, the team was pretty physical and would cave in o-lines! :cool:

I am not a fan of Cliff Harris since I manually use the FS I can go with out a legend and I hardly ever see anyone use Randy White so I will see how he does :)

[amid]

tjspeaks - 2000 Baltimore Ravens

G: Ray Lewis LB (Leadership Bonus, Quick Feet, Ball hawk)
G: Rod Woodson FS
S: Shannon Sharpe TE (Route god, speed burner)
S: Jamal Lewis RB (Strength, BaB)
S: Trent Dilfer QB (Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
B: Chris McAlister CB (Ball Hawk)
B: Qadry Ismail WR (Soft hands)
B: Duane Starks CB (Quick Feet)
B: Matt Stover K (Accuracy)
B: Kim Herring S (Closing Speed)
B: Peter Boulware OLB (Pass Rush Bonus)

[turtl83]

can i get in on this?

[nflhitman]

can i get in on this?

Sure just post a superbowl team you want to use. You can't use one who has been used though.

[turtl83]

I'll take the 2004 Eagles.I'll post up a team later on tonight.

[FLAxWLESS]

I have elevated Ray Lewis to gold based on making Sharpe a silver reusing his in game abilities (I believe the rules state to reuse their abilities).

As far as Dilfer goes, I will never play another game with a bronze CAP QB. HITMAN can make the call, I will have to opt out of this league and any league if I have to use a bronze CAP QB (they are almost worthless IMO).

fun > realism

Realism = fun

That's kinda of the point is a bronze QB sucks. You think Dilfer was as good as Stabler, Dawson, Archie Manning, Cunnigham?

Sure you can't make every pass in the book. That's the point. If Dilfer is a bronze then you won't be able to throw deep every play, you actually have to be smart when passing the ball, you'll have to lean on Jamal Lewis and rely on your defense to make plays.

Wow, that's exactly how the 2000 Ravens played. Defense and clock control offense.

I've used bronze QBs it can be done. You just have to be smarter and more careful and make sure you don't get in 3rd and longs.

[nyknicks33]

hmmm...im racking my head here with how to build this.

I'm trying to figure out which 1 of these 3 would be better:

85 Bears Option 1

Defense:

LB: Mike Singletary
LB: Otis Wilson
DT: William Perry
DT: Dan Hampton
DE: Richard Dent-Rip, Strength
S: Dave Duesron- Ball Hawk, Run Reader
CB: Leslie Frasier: Ball Hawk
CB: Mike Richardson: Ball Hawk


Offense:

QB: Jim Mcmahon-Rocket Arm
HB: Walter Payton
WR: Willie Gault


85 Bears 2

Defense:

LB: Mike Singletary
LB: Otis Wilson
DT: William Perry
DT: Dan Hampton
S: Gary Fencik- Ball Hawk, Closing Speed
S: Dave Duerson- Ball Hawk, Run Reader
CB: Leslie Frasier: Ball Hawk
CB: Mike Richardson: Ball Hawk


Offense:

QB: Jim Mcmahon-Rocket Arm
HB: Walter Payton
WR: Willie Gault


85 Bears 3

Defense:

LB: Mike Singletary
LB: Otis Wilson
DT: Fridge
DT: Dan Hampton
S: Dave Duerson- Ball Hawk, Run Reader
CB: Leslie Frasier: Ball Hawk
CB: Mike Richardson: Ball Hawk


Offense:

C: Jay Hilgenberg: Stone Wall, Bulldozer
QB: Jim Mcmahon-Rocket Arm
HB: Walter Payton
WR: Willie Gault

[amid]

Wow, that's exactly how the 2000 Ravens played. Defense and clock control offense... don't get in 3rd and longs.
That's how I play with this team... my pass plays are short/mid range. I have no one to throw long to.

[twosilk]

count me in, not sure on the team yet, but will post later. Just so I am clear are we basing the teams off of their play/stats, or just any setup will do???

[ElGreazy78]

Realism = fun

That's kinda of the point is a bronze QB sucks. You think Dilfer was as good as Stabler, Dawson, Archie Manning, Cunnigham?

Sure you can't make every pass in the book. That's the point. If Dilfer is a bronze then you won't be able to throw deep every play, you actually have to be smart when passing the ball, you'll have to lean on Jamal Lewis and rely on your defense to make plays.

Wow, that's exactly how the 2000 Ravens played. Defense and clock control offense.

I've used bronze QBs it can be done. You just have to be smarter and more careful and make sure you don't get in 3rd and longs.

That's how I play with this team... my pass plays are short/mid range. I have no one to throw long to.

But the thing is you dont have to because the combination of unrealistic Abilities for your QB force the defender to stretch the field completely. No one feared the deep threat with that offense to the point where the Giants basically forgot to even cover Stokley in the Super Bowl.

Anyway it's one thing to say you have him as a Silver because he warrants it when the issue was brought up, now it's you need a Silver QB because Bronze's aren't good enough, when really maybe you should be saying you can't win without that build at QB? Joe Flacco in a different league has the exact same attributes as a Silver, no less. The way you have Dilfer set up makes it so that you can be a little more careless with your throws because the double charge on the pass will more than not aid any player, be it Generic or Legend to catch and make a big play. That wasn't the Ravens of then, they were abysmal at passing, not highly efficient.

[twosilk]

would like to be the 91 bills

gold
thurman thomas tb
james lofton wr

silver
jim kelly (cap) qb- laser arm, quick release
andre reed wr
darryl talley(cap) olb- ball hawk, speed burner

bronze
pete metzelaars-te
shane conlan (cap) ilb- strength bonus
cornelius bennett(cap) olb- wrap up tackler
nate odomes(cap) cb coverage bonus
kirby jackson (cap) cb closing speed
mark kelso (cap) fs/ss- leadership

[amid]

maybe you should be saying you can't win without that build at QB?

I have played in several DDD league with a bronze (legend) QB and did fine. Bronze CAP QBs are far worse than the erratic bronze legend QBs. What I am saying is that bronze CAP QBs are so bad that I would not play this game at all if that's what I had to play with.

So... playing with a bronze CAP QB is not an option. Here are the options:

1) Allow the silver QB CAP for this league.

2) I can pick a different team. The different team will probably be one of those gold/silver WRs teams.

.

[twosilk]

gotta agree I have never had real success with a bronze qb, so I understand that would probably not play with one either. if you wanna make dilfer a silver then i would understand that, I mean if we nitpick everybodies team then we should do that, that is why I asked the question that i did about team setup, I know that in your nfl league it is basicially a free for all, but that is established from the get go, so that is what i wanna know about this league

[FLAxWLESS]

gotta agree I have never had real success with a bronze qb, so I understand that would probably not play with one either. if you wanna make dilfer a silver then i would understand that, I mean if we nitpick everybodies team then we should do that, that is why I asked the question that i did about team setup, I know that in your nfl league it is basicially a free for all, but that is established from the get go, so that is what i wanna know about this league

It's Hitman's league but I just annoyed me because it's so unrealistic IMO.

We all know bronze QBs suck but the point of the league is to recreate Super Bowl teams.

[nflhitman]

count me in, not sure on the team yet, but will post later. Just so I am clear are we basing the teams off of their play/stats, or just any setup will do???

They have to be starters on the team and you have to have the face of that team on your team. Like Lawrence Taylor has to be on the Giants and so on.

[nflhitman]

I have played in several DDD league with a bronze (legend) QB and did fine. Bronze CAP QBs are far worse than the erratic bronze legend QBs. What I am saying is that bronze CAP QBs are so bad that I would not play this game at all if that's what I had to play with.

So... playing with a bronze CAP QB is not an option. Here are the options:

1) Allow the silver QB CAP for this league.

2) I can pick a different team. The different team will probably be one of those gold/silver WRs teams.

.

It is my league but I like to feel that everyone has a say in how it is ran including you. I would suggest maybe using a different team. When I did my team selections I made sure I used a team that had a Silver or Gold QB that was already in the game. I personally think if Dilfer was worth a Silver pick they wouldn't have released him to make room for Elvis Gerbac right after they won the superbowl. His longest pass play came from a quick slant to Shannon Sharpe and Sharpe did the rest by out running the defense.

[nflhitman]

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&l=32555&n=1915

NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

Bowdown - 1999 Broncos:

G: Terrell Davis RB
G: John Elway QB
S: Shannon Sharpe TE
S: Steve At water FS
S: Braxton SS
B: Rod Smith
B: Bill Romonowski ILB
B: Crocket CB
B: Gordon CB
B: Ed McCaffrey WR
B: John Mobley OLB

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Rip, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 2000 Baltimore Ravens:

G: Ray Lewis LB (Leadership Bonus, Quick Feet, Ball hawk)
G: Rod Woodson FS
S: Shannon Sharpe TE (Route god, speed burner)
S: Jamal Lewis RB (Strength, BaB)
S: Trent Dilfer QB (Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
B: Chris McAlister CB (Ball Hawk)
B: Qadry Ismail WR (Soft hands)
B: Duane Starks CB (Quick Feet)
B: Matt Stover K (Accuracy)
B: Kim Herring S (Closing Speed)
B: Peter Boulware OLB (Pass Rush Bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1991 Buffalo Bills:

G: Thurman Thomas RB
G: James Lofton WR
S: Jim Kelly QB - Quick Release, Laser Arm
S: Andre Reed WR
S: Darryl Talley OLB - Ball Hawk, Speed Burner
B: Pete Metzelaars TE
B: Shane Conlan ILB - Strength Bonus
B: Cornelius Bennett OLB - Wrap up Tackler
B: Nate Odomes CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Mark kelso FS/SS - Leadership Bonus
B: Kirby Jackson CB - Closing Speed


Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

[nflhitman]

99 broncos

HB T. Davis
QB J. Elway
TE Sharpe
FS A****er
SS Braxton
WR R. Smith
OLB B. Ramonawski
CB crocket
CB gordon
WR McCafferty
OLB Mobley

I posted your team but I need attributes that you will use on your players listed.

[amid]

np... I'll work on another team.

[nflhitman]

np... I'll work on another team.

Thanks for your understanding!!

[nflhitman]

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&l=32555&n=1915

NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

Bowdown - 1999 Broncos:

G: Terrell Davis RB
G: John Elway QB
S: Shannon Sharpe TE
S: Steve At water FS
S: Braxton SS
B: Rod Smith
B: Bill Romonowski ILB
B: Crocket CB
B: Gordon CB
B: Ed McCaffrey WR
B: John Mobley OLB

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Rip, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers:

G: Willy Wood FS
G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops)
S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet)
S: QB Bart Starr
S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed)
B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches)
B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands)
B: Don Chandler K (power)
B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk)
B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed)
B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1991 Buffalo Bills:

G: Thurman Thomas RB
G: James Lofton WR
S: Jim Kelly QB - Quick Release, Laser Arm
S: Andre Reed WR
S: Darryl Talley OLB - Ball Hawk, Speed Burner
B: Pete Metzelaars TE
B: Shane Conlan ILB - Strength Bonus
B: Cornelius Bennett OLB - Wrap up Tackler
B: Nate Odomes CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Mark kelso FS/SS - Leadership Bonus
B: Kirby Jackson CB - Closing Speed


Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

[amid]

1967 Green Bay Packers

S Willy Wood
WR Boyd Dowler (soft hands, speed burner, hops)

LB Dave Robinson (coverage bonus, quick feet)
QB Bart Starr
CB Bob Jeter (ball hawk, closing speed)


WR Carroll Dale (acrobatic catches)
TE Marv Fleming (soft hands)
K Don Chandler (power)
CB Herb Adderley (ball hawk)
S Tom Brown (closing speed)
LB Lee Roy Caffey (pass rush bonus)

[FLAxWLESS]

Toss me in again as the 2002 Oakland Raiders

[Benedictine]

I would like to make the 96 steelers if there is room.

[FunkyRezident]

I'll try 98 broncos again. With some minor modifications. Post team soon.

[amid]

Toss me in again as the 2002 Oakland Raiders post your team FLAx so i can check out some stats and compare 4u :cool:

[nflhitman]

I need team build before I post you have joined.

[turtl83]

2004 Philadelphia Eagles

QB Donovan McNabb(Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?)
WR Terrell Owens(Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster)

RB Brian Westbrook(Soft Hands,BAB)
DE Jevon Kearse(Pass Rush,Rip)
S Brian Dawkins(Big Hit,Leadership)

LB Jeremiah Trotter(Closing Speed)
CB Lito Sheppard(Coverage Bonus)
S Michael Lewis(Run Coverage)
LB Dhani Jones(Run Coverage)
WR Todd Pinkston(help, anyone???)
CB Sheldon Brown(Wrap up tackler)

[nflhitman]

2004 Philadelphia Eagles

QB Donovan McNabb
WR Terrell Owens

RB Brian Westbrook
DE Jevon Kearse
S Brian Dawkins

LB Jeremiah Trotter
CB Lito Sheppard
S Michael Lewis
LB Dhani Jones
WR Todd Pinkston
CB Sheldon Brown

Thanks for the team build but I also need the attributes you will have for each player.

[nflhitman]

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&l=32555&n=1915

NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

Bowdown - 1999 Broncos:

G: Terrell Davis RB
G: John Elway QB
S: Shannon Sharpe TE
S: Steve At water FS
S: Braxton SS
B: Rod Smith
B: Bill Romonowski ILB
B: Crocket CB
B: Gordon CB
B: Ed McCaffrey WR
B: John Mobley OLB

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Rip, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers:

G: Willy Wood FS
G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops)
S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet)
S: QB Bart Starr
S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed)
B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches)
B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands)
B: Don Chandler K (power)
B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk)
B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed)
B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1991 Buffalo Bills:

G: Thurman Thomas RB
G: James Lofton WR
S: Jim Kelly QB - Quick Release, Laser Arm
S: Andre Reed WR
S: Darryl Talley OLB - Ball Hawk, Speed Burner
B: Pete Metzelaars TE
B: Shane Conlan ILB - Strength Bonus
B: Cornelius Bennett OLB - Wrap up Tackler
B: Nate Odomes CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Mark kelso FS/SS - Leadership Bonus
B: Kirby Jackson CB - Closing Speed

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders:

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

turtl83 2004 Philadelphia Eagles:

G: Donovan McNabb QB (Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?)
G: Terrell Owens WR (Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster)
S: Brian Westbrook RB (Soft Hands,BAB)
S: Jevon Kearse DE (Pass Rush,Rip)
S: Brian Dawkins FS (Big Hit,Leadership)
B: Jeremiah Trotter ILB (Closing Speed)
B: Lito Sheppard CB (Coverage Bonus)
B: Michael Lewis SS (Run Coverage)
B: Dhani Jones OLB (Run Coverage)
B: Todd Pinkston WR ( Quick Feet )<-- He was a horrible WR so only attribute I would give him is quick feet.
B: Sheldon Brown CB (Wrap up tackler)


Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

[turtl83]

we're allowed to use 5 abilities for our golds,right?

[nyknicks33]

Duerson Attributes: Run Reader, Ball Hawk

[nflhitman]

we're allowed to use 5 abilities for our golds,right?

Yes................

[turtl83]

my team post is updated

[FLAxWLESS]

post your team FLAx so i can check out some stats and compare 4u :cool:

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

2002 Oakland Raiders stats @ Pro-Football Reference (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2002.htm)

[nflhitman]

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

2002 Oakland Raiders stats @ Pro-Football Reference (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2002.htm)

FLAxWLESS if your going to use a legend that is already in the game than you can only use the attributes of that player. Rod Woodson does not have Coverage Bonus as 1 of his attributes. He does have ball hawk so please change him.

[dtrain053]

how many games is the season?

[amid]

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

2002 Oakland Raiders stats @ Pro-Football Reference (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/rai/2002.htm)

C Barret Robbins made the pro bowl that year. It just wouldn't be realistic for me to be playing the 2002 Oakland Raiders without him on the team. I would suggest silver... and where's Sebastian Janikowski?

shame :thumbsdow

.

[FLAxWLESS]

C Barret Robbins made the pro bowl that year. It just wouldn't be realistic for me to be playing the 2002 Oakland Raiders without him on the team. I would suggest silver... and where's Sebastian Janikowski?

shame :thumbsdow

.

Ok.

Where was Johnathan Ogden on your Ravens squad?

[nflhitman]

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&t=APF2K8&l=34585

NFLHITMAN - 2001 New England Patriots:

G: Adam Vinatieri K ( Leadership Bonus, Special Teams Demon, Clutch, Kicking Power, Kicking Accuracy )
G: Ty Law CB ( Ball Hawk, Quick Feet, Hops, Speed Burner, Coverage Bonus )
S: Lawyer Milloy SS ( Ball Hawk, Footsteps )
S: Tom Brady QB ( Clutch, 4th Q Comeback )
S: Troy Brown WR ( Possession Receiver, Soft Hands )
B: Otis Smith CB/FS ( Ball Hawk )
B: Willie McGinest OLB ( Run Reader )
B: David Patten WR ( Tough in the Middle )
B: Return Specialist RB ( Quick Feet )
B: Mike Vrabel OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Tedi Bruschi ILB ( Run Coverage )

Birdman1702 - 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs:

G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus
G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip
S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence
S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle
B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk
B: John Lynch FS - Footsteps
B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage
B: Mike Alstott RB - Power
B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver

Bowdown - 1999 Broncos:

G: Terrell Davis RB
G: John Elway QB
S: Shannon Sharpe TE
S: Steve At water FS
S: Braxton SS
B: Rod Smith
B: Bill Romonowski ILB
B: Crocket CB
B: Gordon CB
B: Ed McCaffrey WR
B: John Mobley OLB

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Rip, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers:

G: Willy Wood FS
G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops)
S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet)
S: QB Bart Starr
S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed)
B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches)
B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands)
B: Don Chandler K (power)
B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk)
B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed)
B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1991 Buffalo Bills:

G: Thurman Thomas RB
G: James Lofton WR
S: Jim Kelly QB - Quick Release, Laser Arm
S: Andre Reed WR
S: Darryl Talley OLB - Ball Hawk, Speed Burner
B: Pete Metzelaars TE
B: Shane Conlan ILB - Strength Bonus
B: Cornelius Bennett OLB - Wrap up Tackler
B: Nate Odomes CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Mark kelso FS/SS - Leadership Bonus
B: Kirby Jackson CB - Closing Speed

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders:

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

turtl83 2004 Philadelphia Eagles:

G: Donovan McNabb QB (Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?)
G: Terrell Owens WR (Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster)
S: Brian Westbrook RB (Soft Hands,BAB)
S: Jevon Kearse DE (Pass Rush,Rip)
S: Brian Dawkins FS (Big Hit,Leadership)
B: Jeremiah Trotter ILB (Closing Speed)
B: Lito Sheppard CB (Coverage Bonus)
B: Michael Lewis SS (Run Coverage)
B: Dhani Jones OLB (Run Coverage)
B: Todd Pinkston WR ( Quick Feet )<-- He was a horrible WR so only attribute I would give him is quick feet.
B: Sheldon Brown CB (Wrap up tackler)


Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

[nflhitman]

how many games is the season?

I will put a poll up for it. This last season it was 16 games. I really enjoyed this league as did many others.

[dtrain053]

Damn.... I can't commit the time for a 16 game league.

Don't worry about a poll Hitman, if it was succesful at 16 you should keep it that way.

[turtl83]

how many teams are gonna be in it?

[Birdman1702]

2002 Tampa Bay Bucs:

G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus
G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip
S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence
S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle
B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk
B: Dexter Jackson FS - Closing Speed
B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage
B: Mike Alstott RB - Power
B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver

[dtrain053]

2002 Tampa Bay Bucs:

G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus
G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip
S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence
S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle
B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk
B: Dexter Jackson FS - Closing Speed
B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage
B: Mike Alstott RB - Power
B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver

Well that made my decision easy lol... No Americas Game for Dtrain...

Your killing me not having John Lynch on the team Birdman;)

Good Luck though I'll be rooting for you!

[Birdman1702]

Dude, I completely forgot about John Lynch!!! I'll switch him out for Dexter Jackson and give him Footsteps!!! I only thought of Dexter because of the whole Super Bowl MVP....that was him, right???

If you want the last spot, you can have it. I don't want to jump in and steal it.

[nflhitman]

Dude, I completely forgot about John Lynch!!! I'll switch him out for Dexter Jackson and give him Footsteps!!! I only thought of Dexter because of the whole Super Bowl MVP....that was him, right???

If you want the last spot, you can have it. I don't want to jump in and steal it.

There is no last spot. This league can hold 32 if needed. I will make the change and yes Dexter was MVP because nobody would throw towards Lynch :)

[Birdman1702]

Thanks, Hitman. I just don't want Dtrain to be odd man out....I guess you could use your son's GT to fill a spot to make sure we have an even number of teams.

[amid]

an we have a hearing on my comments concerning FLAxW's team?

[The Overachiever]

Can, I join? this leage

[nflhitman]

an we have a hearing on my comments concerning FLAxW's team?

I will never make someone take a K/P/O-Lineman. He did have a point also that you didn't have Ogden on your squad either. I will say this that I was thinking of using the 2001 Patriots and having Vinatieri and Ty Law as my Gold players. I might even change my team to them LOL.

[nflhitman]

I will change my team to the 2001 Patriots.....

G: Adam Vinatieri K ( Leadership Bonus, Special Teams Demon, Clutch, Kicking Power, Kicking Accuracy )
G: Ty Law CB ( Ball Hawk, Quick Feet, Hops, Speed Burner, Coverage Bonus )
S: Lawyer Milloy SS ( Ball Hawk, Footsteps )
S: Tom Brady QB ( Clutch, 4th Q Comeback )
S: Troy Brown WR ( Possession Receiver, Soft Hands )
B: Otis Smith CB/FS ( Ball Hawk )
B: Willie McGinest OLB ( Run Reader )
B: David Patten WR ( Tough in the Middle )
B: Kevin Faulk RB ( Return Specialist )
B: Mike Vrabel OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Tedi Bruschi ILB ( Run Coverage )

[nflhitman]

Can, I join? this leage

Yes you can join this league. Post a team and if you use CAPs post there attributes as well.

[FLAxWLESS]

an we have a hearing on my comments concerning FLAxW's team?

Wow and I thought you were being sarcastic with that reply.

I provided the link to the 2002 Raiders so if you or anyone would like to use stats to suggest any changes please feel free.

2002 Oakland Raiders Creation Rationale
Tier Breakdown -
Offense: 2 gold, 2 silver, 1 bronze (O-Rank: Yardage #1, Scoring #1, Passing Yardage #1)
Defense: 1 silver, 5 bronze (D-Rank: Yards allowed #11, Scoring #6)

2000 Balitmore Ravens as created in America's Gm #1
Offense: 1 Gold, 2 silver, 1 bronze (Yards # 16, Scoring # 14, Rushing #5)
Defense: 1 Gold, 1 silver, 5 bronze (Yards allowed #2, Scoring allowed #1)

And for fun
SILVER QB Trent Dilfer - 11 games played, 8 games started, 76.6 QB Rating, 59% completion, 1502 yards, 12 TDs:11 INTs and cut the following season for Elvis Grbac.

[nyknicks33]

For the person using the eagles, give Todd Stinkston the least useful attribute possible for a WR.

You can give a CAP WR. brick wall, which I find kind of funny. Why not do that? :D

[amid]

Wow and I thought you were being sarcastic with that reply.
FLAxW,
I was. I could care less about anyone's team build. I didn't care when vegas96 wanted to use 3 TEs. Makes for an interesting game.

[FLAxWLESS]

FLAxW,
I was. I could care less about anyone's team build. I didn't care when vegas96 wanted to use 3 TEs. Makes for an interesting game.

Oh ok.

We need a sarcasm similie.

[The Overachiever]

2006 Indy Colts

G: QB Peyton Manning

G: WR Marvin Harrison

S: SS Bob Sanders

S: DE Dwight Freeney

S: RB Joe Addai

B: WR Reggie Wayne

B: FS Antoine Bethea

B: DE Robert Mathis

B: CB Nick Harper

B: TE Dallas Clark

More coming soon.

B: LB Cato June

[amid]

i have no preference on 8 or 16 games

[The Overachiever]

Can I get roster breakdown for Colts

[amid]

Can I get roster breakdown for Colts

this is HITMAN's team from another league

Indianapolis Colts - NFLHITMAN
QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm, Pocket Presence)
SS - Bob Sanders (Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Hops, Big Hit, Run Reader)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Route God)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
ILB - Gary Bracket (Quick Feet, Ball Hawk)
HB - Joseph Addai (Break Away Burst)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Freddie Keiaho (Run Reader)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
FS - Antoine Bethea (Quick Feet)

[The Overachiever]

WTF

Dwight Freeney should be there

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Route God, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Run Reader, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Pass Rush Bonus, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Cato June (Run Coverage)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Pass Rush Bonus)

[nflhitman]

WTF

Dwight Freeney should be there

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Route God, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Run Reader, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Pass Rush Bonus, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Freddie Keiaho (Run Coverage)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Pass Rush Bonus)

That team above was not the Colts Superbowl team. That team was a NFL League and Harrison was just coming back from injury, Freeney was out for the year with injury, and Bob Sanders just became defensive MVP. The team you posted is a good reflection of that Superbowl team.

[The Overachiever]

Cato June in replace of Keiaho

[nflhitman]

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&t=APF2K8&l=34585

NFLHITMAN - 2001 New England Patriots:

G: Adam Vinatieri K ( Leadership Bonus, Special Teams Demon, Clutch, Kicking Power, Kicking Accuracy )
G: Ty Law CB ( Ball Hawk, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Clutch, Coverage Bonus )
S: Lawyer Milloy SS ( Ball Hawk, Clutch )
S: Tom Brady QB ( Clutch, 4th Q Comeback )
S: Troy Brown WR ( Possession Receiver, Soft Hands )
B: Otis Smith CB/FS ( Ball Hawk )
B: Willie McGinest OLB ( Run Reader )
B: David Patten WR ( Tough in the Middle )
B: Kevin Faulk RB ( Return Specialist )
B: Mike Vrabel OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Tedi Bruschi ILB ( Run Coverage )

Birdman1702 - 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs:

G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus
G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip
S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence
S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle
B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk
B: John Lynch FS - Footsteps
B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage
B: Mike Alstott RB - Power
B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver

Bowdown - 1998 Broncos:

G: Terrell Davis RB
G: John Elway QB
S: Shannon Sharpe TE
S: Steve At water FS
S: Braxton SS
B: Rod Smith
B: Bill Romonowski ILB
B: Crocket CB
B: Gordon CB
B: Ed McCaffrey WR
B: John Mobley OLB

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Strength Bonus, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers:

G: Willy Wood FS
G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops)
S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet)
S: QB Bart Starr
S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed)
B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches)
B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands)
B: Don Chandler K (power)
B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk)
B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed)
B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1991 Buffalo Bills:

G: Thurman Thomas RB
G: James Lofton WR
S: Jim Kelly QB - Quick Release, Laser Arm
S: Andre Reed WR
S: Darryl Talley OLB - Ball Hawk, Speed Burner
B: Pete Metzelaars TE
B: Shane Conlan ILB - Strength Bonus
B: Cornelius Bennett OLB - Wrap up Tackler
B: Nate Odomes CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Mark kelso FS/SS - Leadership Bonus
B: Kirby Jackson CB - Closing Speed

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders:

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

turtl83 2004 Philadelphia Eagles:

G: Donovan McNabb QB (Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?)
G: Terrell Owens WR (Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster)
S: Brian Westbrook RB (Soft Hands,BAB)
S: Jevon Kearse DE (Pass Rush,Rip)
S: Brian Dawkins FS (Big Hit,Leadership)
B: Jeremiah Trotter ILB (Closing Speed)
B: Lito Sheppard CB (Coverage Bonus)
B: Michael Lewis SS (Run Coverage)
B: Dhani Jones OLB (Run Coverage)
B: Todd Pinkston WR ( Quick Feet )<-- He was a horrible WR so only attribute I would give him is quick feet.
B: Sheldon Brown CB (Wrap up tackler)

2006 Colts - The Overachiever

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Route God, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Run Reader, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Cato June (Run Coverage)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Spin)


Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?[/QUOTE]

[Bowdown]

My fault my team should of be listed as Broncos of 98-99, 99-00 elway retired and they sucked ***!

Question about attributes, I want to create my own John Elway since Cadence is not allowed can I drop it and give him another attribute?

[nyknicks33]

Just a hint, but for creating CAP DLs, dont bother giving them pass rush bonus, run coverage, or sack master unless they are gold.

You are better off giving a silver DL a pass rush move + a physical attribute like strength, quick feet, speed, etc.. or for a bronze, a physical attribute or a pass rush move.

I had a silver simeon rice in americas game I, with speed burner+rip and he led the league with 17 sacks.

In NFL2k II I have a silver dwight freeney- speed burner+spin, and Bronze Robert Mathis- Spin move, and lead that league in total sacks.

If you have a power pass rusher, give him strength and a club move.

I changed my Richard Dent to that, please update. Thanks!

[Benedictine]

Need help with Neil O'Donnell He is in the game, but has candence. I was thinking of making him a silver am I able to replace Candence?

[The Overachiever]

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Route God, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Run Reader, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Cato June (Run Coverage)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Ball Hawk)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Spin)

[nflhitman]

Need help with Neil O'Donnell He is in the game, but has candence. I was thinking of making him a silver am I able to replace Candence?

Neil O'Donnell is a Bronze and stays as a bronze. He does not have cadence. Only John Elway has cadence in this game. O'Donnell has Leadership and Signal Stealer. You can move a player down a tier with the same attributes but you can not move a player up at all.

[nflhitman]

My fault my team should of be listed as Broncos of 98-99, 99-00 elway retired and they sucked ***!

Question about attributes, I want to create my own John Elway since Cadence is not allowed can I drop it and give him another attribute?

If you are gonna leave a player at the same tier than you can not change him at all. If you want to lower him a tier than you can change him. Elway is still Elway without the Cadence.

[Bowdown]

Would like clarification on CAPS:

This is 1998 broncos funky build:

'98 Broncos

Gold: #87 Easy Ed McCaffrey WR 6-5 215 Stanford (Leadership,Soft Hands,Tough in the middle,Strength,Clutch)
Gold: #30 Terrell Davis RB 5-11 210 Georgia (Speed burner,Strength,Quickfeet,Cutback ability,Power)
Silver:#84 Shannon Sharpe TE 6-2 230 Savannah State(Route god, Speed Burner)
Silver: #80 Rod Smith WR 6-0 200 Missouri Southern (Deep Threat,Breakaway burst)
Silver: #7 John Elway QB 6-3 215 38 16 Stanford (Laser Arm, Strength)

B: #93 Trevor Pryce DE 6-5 295 Clemson (Club)
B: #90 Neil Smith DE 6-4 270 32 11 Nebraska (Rip)
B: #53 Bill Romanowski LB 6-4 245 Boston College (Coverage)
B: #20 Tory James CB 6-1 195 Louisiana State (Coverage)
B: #21 Darrien Gordon CB 5-11 192 Stanford (Speed Burner)
B: #27 Steve A****er SS 6-3 220 Arkansas (Run Coverage)

They do not match the CAP list you created for some of the players on the list.

However no one had an issue with it, only reason I bring it up it takes time and pain in the *** for me to create players and saw this post later in last season thread:

Hitman sucks that Tim Brown can't have Route God.

I guess I'll go with the next best thing and do Possession.

WR Tim Brown - Possession, TIM

I can't wait for this league as well. Always wanted to run with this team.. created it before but no one wanted to play them in lobby play.


However I see some CAPS with route god attribute assign to them, and on your CAP list so I am a little confuse.

Bottom line do we create players based on your CAP list you already have and give them thhose attributes you listed them as?

TD
R Smith
Ed Mccafrey
A****er
Ramanoski

are some of the players on your CAP list do we follow those or create our own like some people did this year and last year?

[nyknicks33]

hmm..trying to replicate the 85 bears, but give myself a fighting chance of actually moving the football, but I do not see anyone I can justify taking off of the defense. The defense was the face of the dang team. Oh well.

[Bowdown]

hmm..trying to replicate the 85 bears, but give myself a fighting chance of actually moving the football, but I do not see anyone I can justify taking off of the defense. The defense was the face of the dang team. Oh well.

My suggestion, dont create a team ur not going to enjoy and have fun playing with.

[nflhitman]

Would like clarification on CAPS:

This is 1998 broncos funky build:



They do not match the CAP list you created for some of the players on the list.

However no one had an issue with it, only reason I bring it up it takes time and pain in the *** for me to create players and saw this post later in last season thread:




However I see some CAPS with route god attribute assign to them, and on your CAP list so I am a little confuse.

Bottom line do we create players based on your CAP list you already have and give them thhose attributes you listed them as?

TD
R Smith
Ed Mccafrey
A****er
Ramanoski

are some of the players on your CAP list do we follow those or create our own like some people did this year and last year?

For this league you can create players off of the list but the attributes that they have that are banned can have a different attribute. Funky's team is not in my list of teams in this league so if that is his team he will have to change it. Tim Brown that FLAxWLESS used had to have Route God removed because it was banned in this league.

The reason some of those attributes have been banned is because with the option of down grading a player to make your superbowl team is because people will down grade a Tim brown to Bronze with Route God. The other banned attributes are for RB's.

Terrell Davis can be Silver or Bronze - ( Breakaway Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Stamina Bonus, Clutch )Pick 2

Rod Smith can be Gold, Silver, or Bronze - ( Tough in the Middle, Strength Bonus, Bull Dozer, Soft Hands, Leadership Bonus, Possession Receiver ) Pick

Ed McCaffrey can be a Silver or a Bronze - (Possession Receiver, Tough in the Middle, Leadership Bonus, Clutch )Pick

Romonowski Silver or Bronze - (Run Reader, Run Coverage, Big Hit) Pick

[nflhitman]

I just noticed that his team was from last season. I must have missed it or was never asked a question like you asked to notice it. Also if you want TD as a Gold you can since he was the best RB in the league that year.

[nflhitman]

Here is how your team should be created.

1. You must reflect that Superbowl team so if they were known for Defense or Offense than that is how you should make that team. You only get 11 spots to fill and 22 starters on each Superbowl team.

2. You can downgrade players that are in the game to make room for somebody else off that team. EX. you can down grade Elway to silver but you can not upgrade a Mark Rypien to Silver. If you recreate a player that is in the game you must use the attributes they have listed for them. You must have the Face of that team on your team like Lawrence Taylor of the Giants must be on that team.

You can not give any player the banned attributes unless your are recreating a player from the game like Jerry Rice and his Route God ability.

Hope this clears up some questions.

[Bowdown]

Then Harrison cannot have route god attribute, and yes we all missed funks team build last year, thanks for clearing it up. I might be changing teams then, because I really wasnt' planning on using TD as a gold HB with those attributes you used, same with Rod Smith.

[Bowdown]

Dallas Cowboys 93

G: HB Emmit Smith
G: Michael Irving- see hitman list
S: QB Aikman - Pocket presense, Leadership
S: OLB D Ewdards - Quick Feet, Ball Hawk
S: CB Kevin Smith- Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
B: TE Novacek - Possession WR
B: SS D Woodson - Coverage
B: WR Alvin Harper
B: CB Larry Brown - Ball Hawk
B: FS Bill Gates- Ball Hawk
B: ILB K Norton

I left a few off their stars, but I want to make the game fun and my team balance.

[nyknicks33]

My suggestion, dont create a team ur not going to enjoy and have fun playing with.

where did I say I wouldnt enjoy playing with them? I played last season with the 2002 bucs, with 4 bronze caps on O and did pretty well.

I was making a general observation. Ideally I'd like 4 players bare minimum, but dont see how that ispossible without junking Fridge.

That would be the only guy who would be somewhat justifiable. Fridge didnt make the pro bowl nor was he all-pro in '85 believe it or not.

[FunkyRezident]

98 broncos

Gold :QB Elway cap (instead of cadence I'll put leadership)
Gold: Terrell davis(Breakaway Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Stamina Bonus, Strength)
S:Te Shannon sharpe (route god, speed burner)
S: DT Trevor pryce (club)
S:Tory James(speed burner,coverage)
B:Darrien gordon(sp burner)
B:Steve at water(big hit)
B: Jason elam (kick bouns)
B:Bill Romo(steroids and human growth hormone,Big hit)
B:WR Ed mccaffery(tough in middle)
B:WR Rod Smith (deep threat)


I'll have team done and joined by tonight.

[ElGreazy78]

I think I'm going to go with the 1968 Jets but I'm having a tough go at it for a team build. Here is what I'm thinking so far:

EDIT
Originally stated the 1969 Jets when it was really the 1968 team.

[nyknicks33]

I think I'm going to go with the 1969 Jets but I'm having a tough go at it for a team build. Here is what I'm thinking so far:

G | QB Joe Namath (CAP) | Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch
G | OLB Larry Grantham (CAP) | Coverage Bonus - Quick Feet - Wrap Up Tackler - Leadership - Run Coverage

S | RB Matt Snell | in-game
S | WR Don Maynard | in-game
S | WR George Sauer (CAP) | (possession receiver???)

B | DE Gary Phillbin (CAP) | Pass Rush Bonus???
B | DT John Elliott (CAP) | ???
B | CB Cornell Gordon (CAP) | ???
B | CB John Dockery (CAP) | ???
B | S Jim Richards (CAP) | ???
B | S Bill Baird (CAP) | ???

Geez, looking at the Jets season index on pro football reference is bloody depressing.


anyway:

John Elliot should be your gold, he was All Pro and pro bowl that year.
Leadership, Run Coverage, Big Hit, Loose Ball Magnet, Club
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/ElliJo00.htm?redir

Larry Grantham: Run Coverage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Grantham

WR: George Sauer: 45 rec, 745 yds, 16.6 ypc, 8 TDS, Long: 40 yds- breakaway burst, Soft Hands


DE Gary Phillbin: Rip Move. 19 sacks in 1969: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Philbin

Cornell Gordon: Ball Hawk, 4 Ints
John Dockerty: Ball Hawk, 5 Ints
Jim Richards: Coverage, 3 Ints
Bill Baird: Ball Hawk, 5 Ints

---this team had a ton of INTs..geez, a little over 2 a game as a team.

If I was making this team, I would have Namath as a bronze leadership bonus or clutch, and have Phillbin, and Elliot as my gold. Big time pass pressure to force the ball to the ball hawks in the secondary.

Namath basically chucked the ball around, hoping Maynard and Sauer bailed him out (19 Tds, 17 Int) and they pounded the ball with Snell and Emerson Boozer.

[ElGreazy78]

I was wrong, I should have stated the 1968 Jets. That changes the team around a bit. Here is what I will prob go with:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/1968.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/1968_roster.htm
SUPER BOWL STAT LINE: http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/history/boxscore/sbiii

G | Namath (QB) | Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch
G | Sauer (WR) | 1st team All Pro + Pro Bowl + better stats than Maynard that year (CAP: possession receiver build)

S | Maynard (WR) | in game
S | Snell (RB) | in game
S | Phillbin (DE) | CAP pass rush build

B | Elliott (DT) | CAP Pass rush build
B | Atkinson (LB)
B | Sample (CB)
B | Beverly (CB)
B | Hudson (S)
B | Baird (S)

[nyknicks33]

I was wrong, I should have stated the 1968 Jets. That changes the team around a bit. Here is what I will prob go with:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/1968.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/1968_roster.htm
SUPER BOWL STAT LINE: http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/history/boxscore/sbiii

G | Namath (QB) | Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch
G | Sauer (WR) | 1st team All Pro + Pro Bowl + better stats than Maynard that year (CAP: possession receiver build)

S | Maynard (WR) | in game
S | Snell (RB) | in game
S | Phillbin (DE) | CAP pass rush build

B | Elliott (DT) | CAP Pass rush build
B | Atkinson (LB)
B | Sample (CB)
B | Beverly (CB)
B | Hudson (S)
B | Baird (S)

that's a very accurate build..they still had a ton of picks, 2 game, so id give the entire secondary ball hawk since they all had 4+ INTS. With Hitman's legend sliders, you should get good penetration with your DL and some turnovers if folks get careless.

[ElGreazy78]

Yeah, I hate devoting such high tiers to one side of the ball, especially at WR, but I like to be as accurate as possible with team builds. If/when someone shuts down my passing game I will be done for! haha

Does anyone have a good uniform code for a classic Jets uni? The game seems to not really give great options when it comes to the shoulder designs the team used in real life. :(

[Benedictine]

I changed my mind I thought the Bus was on that steelers team and I have been wanting to play with a power back.

So I have made the 2003 Panthers team

G RB Stephen Davis Arms of steel Quick Feet Soft Hands Strength Bonus and Power
G SS Deon Grant Ball Hawk Closing Speed Footsteps Cover Bonus Quick Feet

S QB Jake Delhomme Leadership Bonus Rocket arm
S DE Mike Rucker Quick Feet Strength Bonus
S WR Steve Smith Acrobatic Catch Speed Burner

B WR Muhsin Muhammid Acrobatic Catch
B CB Rick Manning JR Coverage Bonus
B CB Reggie Howard Coverage Bonus
B OLB WIll Witherspoon Coverage Bonus
B DT Kris Jenkins Pass Rush Bonus
B FS Mike Mintor Speed Burner

[The Overachiever]

QB - Peyton Manning (Leadership, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Magic Feet, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (BAB)
OLB - Cato June (Reach Tackle)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Coverage Bonus)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Spin)

[nflhitman]

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&t=APF2K8&l=34585

NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

Birdman1702 - 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs:

G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus
G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip
S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence
S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle
B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk
B: John Lynch FS - Footsteps
B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage
B: Mike Alstott RB - Power
B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver

Bowdown - Dallas Cowboys 93

G: HB Emmit Smith
G: Michael Irving- see hitman list
S: QB Aikman - Pocket presense, Leadership
S: OLB D Ewdards - Quick Feet, Ball Hawk
S: CB Kevin Smith- Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
B: TE Novacek - Possession WR
B: SS D Woodson - Coverage
B: WR Alvin Harper
B: CB Larry Brown - Ball Hawk
B: FS Bill Gates- Ball Hawk
B: ILB K Norton

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Strength Bonus, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers:

G: Willy Wood FS

G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops)
S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet)
S: QB Bart Starr
S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed)
B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches)
B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands)
B: Don Chandler K (power)
B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk)
B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed)
B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1991 Buffalo Bills:

G: Thurman Thomas RB
G: James Lofton WR
S: Jim Kelly QB - Quick Release, Laser Arm
S: Andre Reed WR
S: Darryl Talley OLB - Ball Hawk, Speed Burner
B: Pete Metzelaars TE
B: Shane Conlan ILB - Strength Bonus
B: Cornelius Bennett OLB - Wrap up Tackler
B: Nate Odomes CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Mark kelso FS/SS - Leadership Bonus
B: Kirby Jackson CB - Closing Speed

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders:

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

turtl83 2004 Philadelphia Eagles:

G: Donovan McNabb QB (Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?)
G: Terrell Owens WR (Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster)
S: Brian Westbrook RB (Soft Hands,BAB)
S: Jevon Kearse DE (Pass Rush,Rip)
S: Brian Dawkins FS (Big Hit,Leadership)
B: Jeremiah Trotter ILB (Closing Speed)
B: Lito Sheppard CB (Coverage Bonus)
B: Michael Lewis SS (Run Coverage)
B: Dhani Jones OLB (Run Coverage)
B: Todd Pinkston WR ( Quick Feet )<-- He was a horrible WR so only attribute I would give him is quick feet.
B: Sheldon Brown CB (Wrap up tackler)

2006 Colts - The Overachiever

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Magic Feet, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Cato June (Run Coverage)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Spin)

Benedictine - 2003 Panthers team:

G: Stephen Davis RB ( Arms of steel, Quick Feet, Strength Bonus, Power )
G: Deon Grant SS ( Ball Hawk, Closing Speed, Footsteps, Cover Bonus, Quick Feet )

S: Jake Delhomme QB ( Leadership Bonus, Rocket arm )
S: Mike Rucker DE ( Quick Feet, Strength Bonus )
S: Steve Smith WR ( Acrobatic Catch, Speed Burner )

B: Muhsin Muhammid WR ( Acrobatic Catch )
B: Rick Manning JR CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Reggie Howard CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: WIll Witherspoon OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Kris Jenkins DT ( Pass Rush Bonus )
B: Mike Minter FS ( Speed Burner )

El Greazy - 1968 NY Jets:

G | Namath (QB) | Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch
G | Sauer (WR) | 1st team All Pro + Pro Bowl + better stats than Maynard that year (CAP: possession receiver build)

S | Maynard (WR) | in game
S | Snell (RB) | in game
S | Phillbin (DE) | CAP pass rush build

B | Elliott (DT) | CAP Pass rush build
B | Atkinson (LB)
B | Sample (CB)
B | Beverly (CB)
B | Hudson (S)
B | Baird (S)


Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

[nflhitman]

I was wrong, I should have stated the 1968 Jets. That changes the team around a bit. Here is what I will prob go with:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/1968.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/1968_roster.htm
SUPER BOWL STAT LINE: http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/history/boxscore/sbiii

G | Namath (QB) | Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch
G | Sauer (WR) | 1st team All Pro + Pro Bowl + better stats than Maynard that year (CAP: possession receiver build)

S | Maynard (WR) | in game
S | Snell (RB) | in game
S | Phillbin (DE) | CAP pass rush build

B | Elliott (DT) | CAP Pass rush build
B | Atkinson (LB)
B | Sample (CB)
B | Beverly (CB)
B | Hudson (S)
B | Baird (S)

Posted your team build but I need attributes for your CAP players.

[nflhitman]

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&t=APF2K8&l=34585

NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

Birdman1702 - 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs:

G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus
G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip
S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence
S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle
B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk
B: John Lynch FS - Footsteps
B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage
B: Mike Alstott RB - Power
B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver

Bowdown - Dallas Cowboys 93

G: HB Emmit Smith
G: Michael Irving- see hitman list
S: QB Aikman - Pocket presense, Leadership
S: OLB D Ewdards - Quick Feet, Ball Hawk
S: CB Kevin Smith- Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
B: TE Novacek - Possession WR
B: SS D Woodson - Coverage
B: WR Alvin Harper
B: CB Larry Brown - Ball Hawk
B: FS Bill Gates- Ball Hawk
B: ILB K Norton

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Strength Bonus, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers:

G: Willy Wood FS


G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops)
S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet)
S: QB Bart Starr
S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed)
B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches)
B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands)
B: Don Chandler K (power)
B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk)
B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed)
B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1991 Buffalo Bills:

G: Thurman Thomas RB
G: James Lofton WR
S: Jim Kelly QB - Quick Release, Laser Arm
S: Andre Reed WR
S: Darryl Talley OLB - Ball Hawk, Speed Burner
B: Pete Metzelaars TE
B: Shane Conlan ILB - Strength Bonus
B: Cornelius Bennett OLB - Wrap up Tackler
B: Nate Odomes CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Mark kelso FS/SS - Leadership Bonus
B: Kirby Jackson CB - Closing Speed

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders:

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

turtl83 2004 Philadelphia Eagles:

G: Donovan McNabb QB (Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?)
G: Terrell Owens WR (Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster)
S: Brian Westbrook RB (Soft Hands,BAB)
S: Jevon Kearse DE (Pass Rush,Rip)
S: Brian Dawkins FS (Big Hit,Leadership)
B: Jeremiah Trotter ILB (Closing Speed)
B: Lito Sheppard CB (Coverage Bonus)
B: Michael Lewis SS (Run Coverage)
B: Dhani Jones OLB (Run Coverage)
B: Todd Pinkston WR ( Quick Feet )<-- He was a horrible WR so only attribute I would give him is quick feet.
B: Sheldon Brown CB (Wrap up tackler)

2006 Colts - The Overachiever

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Magic Feet, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Cato June (Run Coverage)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Spin)

Benedictine - 2003 Panthers team:

G: Stephen Davis RB ( Secure Ball Bonus, Quick Feet, Strength Bonus, Power, Break Away Burst )
G: Deon Grant SS ( Ball Hawk, Closing Speed, Footsteps, Cover Bonus, Quick Feet )

S: Jake Delhomme QB ( Leadership Bonus, Rocket arm )
S: Mike Rucker DE ( Quick Feet, Strength Bonus )
S: Steve Smith WR ( Acrobatic Catch, Speed Burner )

B: Muhsin Muhammid WR ( Acrobatic Catch )
B: Rick Manning JR CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Reggie Howard CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: WIll Witherspoon OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Kris Jenkins DT ( Pass Rush Bonus )
B: Mike Minter FS ( Speed Burner )

El Greazy - 1968 NY Jets:

G | Namath (QB) | Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch
G | Sauer (WR) | 1st team All Pro + Pro Bowl + better stats than Maynard that year (CAP: possession receiver build)

S | Maynard (WR) | in game
S | Snell (RB) | in game
S | Phillbin (DE) | CAP pass rush build

B | Elliott (DT) | CAP Pass rush build
B | Atkinson (LB)
B | Sample (CB)
B | Beverly (CB)
B | Hudson (S)
B | Baird (S)


Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

[nflhitman]

98 broncos

Gold :QB Elway cap (instead of cadence I'll put leadership)
Gold: Terrell davis(Breakaway Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Stamina Bonus, Strength)
S:Te Shannon sharpe (route god, speed burner)
S: DT Trevor pryce (club)
S:Tory James(speed burner,coverage)
B:Darrien gordon(sp burner)
B:Steve at water(big hit)
B: Jason elam (kick bouns)
B:Bill Romo(steroids and human growth hormone,Big hit)
B:WR Ed mccaffery(tough in middle)
B:WR Rod Smith (deep threat)


I'll have team done and joined by tonight.

I have already stated that if you are going to use a player that is in the game and you don't change his tier than you can not change his attributes. I will post your team when you figure out what you want to do with Elway. You also need to get me positions and every attribute for every player. You have Trevor Pryce posted as a silver with 1 attribute. You also need to understand that FLEA FLICKERS are not allowed in this league at all and the next time you violate this you won;t be welcomed back in my leagues.

[nflhitman]

I changed my mind I thought the Bus was on that steelers team and I have been wanting to play with a power back.

So I have made the 2003 Panthers team

G RB Stephen Davis Arms of steel Quick Feet Soft Hands Strength Bonus and Power
G SS Deon Grant Ball Hawk Closing Speed Footsteps Cover Bonus Quick Feet

S QB Jake Delhomme Leadership Bonus Rocket arm
S DE Mike Rucker Quick Feet Strength Bonus
S WR Steve Smith Acrobatic Catch Speed Burner

B WR Muhsin Muhammid Acrobatic Catch
B CB Rick Manning JR Coverage Bonus
B CB Reggie Howard Coverage Bonus
B OLB WIll Witherspoon Coverage Bonus
B DT Kris Jenkins Pass Rush Bonus
B FS Mike Mintor Speed Burner

I have Stephen Davis listed with 4 attributes unless you want to give him something other than soft hands. Davis was not known for his hands and he won't have it in this league. please post your change ASAP.

[Benedictine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLTugiBlv3I

To be honest I have no idea what to give him. I dont know how fast is. I could of sworn Foster was the scat back. Doesnt look like davis lowers his shoulder and runs stright up./

[Benedictine]

http://sports.ign.com/madden05/panthers.html

Stephen Davis RB HB 48 92 87 93 86 83 80 92 65 91 n/a n/a

2004 Maddens stats I'll take out the hands

They give him a lot of acceleration awarness break tackle and carrying.

[nflhitman]

I don't ever consider Madden stats LOL. If you look at the legends they also have Earl Campbell with 98 speed and Gale Sayers with 94 speed LOL.

Battering Ram

[FunkyRezident]

Gold :QB Elway (ingame version with cadence i guess)
Gold:HB Terrell davis(Breakaway Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Stamina Bonus, Strength)
S:Te Shannon sharpe (route god, speed burner)
S: DT Trevor pryce (club, pass rush)
S: CB Tory James(speed burner,coverage)
B: CB Darrien gordon(sp burner)
B: SS Steve at water(big hit)
B: K Jason elam (kick bouns)
B:OLB Bill Romo(steroids and human growth hormone,Big hit)
B:WR Ed mccaffery(tough in middle)
B:WR Rod Smith (deep threat)

You can chill already about the flea flickers. I told you i won't do one. If you don't want me in your league then say so. Don't beat around the bush on forums about it.

[Benedictine]

S Davis Brake away burst (acceleration) Secure ball bonus (carrying) Strength (break tackle) Power (Break Tackle), quick feet (cut back lane for awarness acceleration)

[ElGreazy78]

Posted your team build but I need attributes for your CAP players.
I'll post all the final info once I make the team, I still have to create everyone. :(

[nflhitman]

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&t=APF2K8&l=34585

NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

Birdman1702 - 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs:

G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus
G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip
S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence
S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle
B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk
B: John Lynch FS - Footsteps
B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage
B: Mike Alstott RB - Power
B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver

Bowdown - Dallas Cowboys 93

G: HB Emmit Smith
G: Michael Irving- see hitman list
S: QB Aikman - Pocket presense, Leadership
S: OLB D Ewdards - Quick Feet, Ball Hawk
S: CB Kevin Smith- Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
B: TE Novacek - Possession WR
B: SS D Woodson - Coverage
B: WR Alvin Harper
B: CB Larry Brown - Ball Hawk
B: FS Bill Gates- Ball Hawk
B: ILB K Norton

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Strength Bonus, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers:

G: Willy Wood FS


G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops)
S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet)
S: QB Bart Starr
S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed)
B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches)
B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands)
B: Don Chandler K (power)
B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk)
B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed)
B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1991 Buffalo Bills:

G: Thurman Thomas RB
G: James Lofton WR
S: Jim Kelly QB - Quick Release, Laser Arm
S: Andre Reed WR
S: Darryl Talley OLB - Ball Hawk, Speed Burner
B: Pete Metzelaars TE
B: Shane Conlan ILB - Strength Bonus
B: Cornelius Bennett OLB - Wrap up Tackler
B: Nate Odomes CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Mark kelso FS/SS - Leadership Bonus
B: Kirby Jackson CB - Closing Speed

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders:

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

turtl83 2004 Philadelphia Eagles:

G: Donovan McNabb QB (Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?)
G: Terrell Owens WR (Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster)
S: Brian Westbrook RB (Soft Hands,BAB)
S: Jevon Kearse DE (Pass Rush,Rip)
S: Brian Dawkins FS (Big Hit,Leadership)
B: Jeremiah Trotter ILB (Closing Speed)
B: Lito Sheppard CB (Coverage Bonus)
B: Michael Lewis SS (Run Coverage)
B: Dhani Jones OLB (Run Coverage)
B: Todd Pinkston WR ( Quick Feet )<-- He was a horrible WR so only attribute I would give him is quick feet.
B: Sheldon Brown CB (Wrap up tackler)

2006 Colts - The Overachiever

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Magic Feet, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Cato June (Run Coverage)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Spin)

Benedictine - 2003 Panthers team:

G: Stephen Davis RB ( Secure Ball Bonus, Quick Feet, Strength Bonus, Power, Break Away Burst )
G: Deon Grant SS ( Ball Hawk, Closing Speed, Footsteps, Cover Bonus, Quick Feet )

S: Jake Delhomme QB ( Leadership Bonus, Rocket arm )
S: Mike Rucker DE ( Quick Feet, Strength Bonus )
S: Steve Smith WR ( Acrobatic Catch, Speed Burner )

B: Muhsin Muhammid WR ( Acrobatic Catch )
B: Rick Manning JR CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Reggie Howard CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: WIll Witherspoon OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Kris Jenkins DT ( Pass Rush Bonus )
B: Mike Minter FS ( Speed Burner )

El Greazy - 1968 NY Jets:

G | Namath (QB) | Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch
G | Sauer (WR) | 1st team All Pro + Pro Bowl + better stats than Maynard that year (CAP: possession receiver build)

S | Maynard (WR) | in game
S | Snell (RB) | in game
S | Phillbin (DE) | CAP pass rush build

B | Elliott (DT) | CAP Pass rush build
B | Atkinson (LB)
B | Sample (CB)
B | Beverly (CB)
B | Hudson (S)
B | Baird (S)


Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

[nflhitman]

Gold :QB Elway (ingame version with cadence i guess)
Gold:HB Terrell davis(Breakaway Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Stamina Bonus, Strength)
S:Te Shannon sharpe (route god, speed burner)
S: DT Trevor pryce (club, pass rush)
S: CB Tory James(speed burner,coverage)
B: CB Darrien gordon(sp burner)
B: SS Steve at water(big hit)
B: K Jason elam (kick bouns)
B:OLB Bill Romo(steroids and human growth hormone,Big hit)
B:WR Ed mccaffery(tough in middle)
B:WR Rod Smith (deep threat)

You can chill already about the flea flickers. I told you i won't do one. If you don't want me in your league then say so. Don't beat around the bush on forums about it.

OK I will take you up you offer. Maybe next season.

[nflhitman]

I will leave the league sign ups for 1 more day and than I will go with what we have. Tuesday at 4 pm is deadline to join.

[FunkyRezident]

Glady. Your just to soft nowadays for me.

Seriously i can't take another thread with you crying about something.

[ElGreazy78]

Here is my team build based off of the following info. Please let me know if changes need to be made:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/1968.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyj/1968_roster.htm
SUPER BOWL STAT LINE: http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/history/boxscore/sbiii

G: QB Namath (CAP) - Pocket, Quick Release, Leadership, Clutch, Laser Arm
G: WR Sauer (CAP) - BB, TITM, Clutch, BAB, Soft Hands
S: WR Maynard
S: RB Snell
S: DE Phillbin (CAP) - Pass Rush, Leadership
B: DT Elliott (CAP) - Pass Rush
B: LB Atkinson (CAP) - Quick Feet
B: CB Sample (CAP) - Leadership
B: CB Beverly (CAP) - Ball Hawk
B: FS Hudson (CAP) - Ball Hawk
B: SS Baird (CAP) - Ball Hawk

I'm having problems with my DE & DT CAP build. My DT weighs 244 and my DE weighs 248. While the underweight in-game legends at d-line (Donovan, Randy White, etc) seem to have some kind of physics/weigh balance programming attached to them, it seems my CAPs do not. With their weight they are constantly being destroyed by the generic O-line due to their lack of weight. Any recommendations on what I can do about this?

[amid]

Any recommendations on what I can do about this?

Have you tried making their body type 'fat' and tone 'muscular'?

[ElGreazy78]

Have you tried making their body type 'fat' and tone 'muscular'?
Won't that make them incredibly slow? I did that in NFL2K8 season 1 with Zach Thomas & Greg Ellis (appropriate weight & heights) and they were slow as molasses. I'll give it a try, again.

[nyknicks33]

Here is my team build based off of the following info. Please let me know if changes need to be made:

I'm having problems with my DE & DT CAP build. My DT weighs 244 and my DE weighs 248. While the underweight in-game legends at d-line (Donovan, Randy White, etc) seem to have some kind of physics/weigh balance programming attached to them, it seems my CAPs do not. With their weight they are constantly being destroyed by the generic O-line due to their lack of weight. Any recommendations on what I can do about this?



Give them a pass rush move. If they are not golds, dont bother giving them pass rush bonus, run coverage, or whatever.

For bronze and silver DT's and DE's they need a pass rush move or a physical attribute, in order to be worth anything.

Silver Cap Speed/Finesse Rusher DE or DT: Speed burner+ Rip/Club/Spin, Quick Feet+ Rip/Club/Spin

Silver Cap Power Pass Rusher DE or DT: Strength+Rip/Club/Bull Rush

Bronze DEs or DTs: The pass rush move of your choice, or strength bonus.

[nflhitman]

If you have a undersized player on the D-Line like Manley you must give them Strength Bonus like manley has if you want anything from them at all. If they were small I would make sure they were at least a Silver so I could give them Strength and a Power move like Club. I would only give Pass Rush Bonus or Sack Master to a gold because you have enough attribute in the Gold Tier to do that.

[dtrain053]

Hey Hitman whats the verdict on amount of games?

Either way I think I'm gonna bite. Quick question though is it Superbowl teams only or are Championship game teams OK too?

I was thinking about the 58 Colts.

[nflhitman]

Hey Hitman whats the verdict on amount of games?

Either way I think I'm gonna bite. Quick question though is it Superbowl teams only or are Championship game teams OK too?

I was thinking about the 58 Colts.

It is showing a 16 game season so far and that is probably how I will make the league. You can use Championship teams because that was the Superbowl back than. I used a Championship team in season 1.

[dtrain053]

Sounds good, and check your PMs in a minute.

[dtrain053]

I'm gonna take the 1994 49ers.

G: Jerry Rice
G: CB Deion Sanders (Speed Burner, Return Specialist, Quick Feet, Coverage Bonus, Ball Hawk) He had 6 INT's in 1994, and was 1994 Defensive POY

S: QB Steve Young (Srambler, Laser Arm)
S: Brent Jones
S: FS Merton Hanks (Ball Hawk, ???)

B: Ken Norton Jr. (at ROLB-http://http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NortKe00.htm)
B: Gary Plummer
B: RB Ricky Waters (Soft Hands)
B: CB Eric Davis (Quick Feet)
B: S Tim McDonald (Coverage?)
B: John Taylor

I need help with McDonald, and Hanks second ability....

[Bowdown]

I'm gonna take the 1994 49ers.

G: Jerry Rice
G: CB Deion Sanders (Speed Burner, Return Specialist, Quick Feet, Coverage Bonus, Ball Hawk) He had 6 INT's in 1994, and was 1994 Defensive POY

S: QB Steve Young (Srambler, Laser Arm)
S: Brent Jones
S: FS Merton Hanks (Ball Hawk, ???)

B: Ken Norton Jr. (at ROLB-http://http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NortKe00.htm)
B: Gary Plummer
B: RB Ricky Waters (Soft Hands)
B: CB Eric Davis (Quick Feet)
B: S Tim McDonald (Coverage?)
B: John Taylor

I need help with McDonald, and Hanks second ability....

If the caps are in Hitman's list you must you those attibutes, if there is a legend in the game and you not downgrading him you cannot create your own CAP with the same tier, you must take the legend in the game.

Hitman's List of Caps:

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&t=APF2K8&l=34585

[nflhitman]

I'm gonna take the 1994 49ers.

G: Jerry Rice
G: CB Deion Sanders (Speed Burner, Return Specialist, Quick Feet, Coverage Bonus, Ball Hawk) He had 6 INT's in 1994, and was 1994 Defensive POY

S: QB Steve Young (Srambler, Laser Arm)
S: Brent Jones
S: FS Merton Hanks (Ball Hawk, ???)

B: Ken Norton Jr. (at ROLB-http://http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NortKe00.htm)
B: Gary Plummer
B: RB Ricky Waters (Soft Hands)
B: CB Eric Davis (Quick Feet)
B: S Tim McDonald (Coverage?)
B: John Taylor

I need help with McDonald, and Hanks second ability....

I would say Quick Feet for Merton hanks since he was so atheletic unless they have a Chicken Dance attribute. With McDonald I would go with Coverage Bonus unless he had like 3+ interceptions.

[nyknicks33]

Is it possible to give a DB scissor kick? It would be neat to see prime doing some high stepping in the open field lol

[nflhitman]

Is it possible to give a DB scissor kick? It would be neat to see prime doing some high stepping in the open field lol

Yes than he would make Prime Time on NFL Network LOL.

[nflhitman]

I have others interested in this league over at Operations Sports so I will hold up and see how many more want to join us.

[dtrain053]

If the caps are in Hitman's list you must you those attibutes, if there is a legend in the game and you not downgrading him you cannot create your own CAP with the same tier, you must take the legend in the game.

Hitman's List of Caps:

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&t=APF2K8&l=34585

Whats this in reference to Bowdown?

I just ment Norton will be playing at OLB since that is where he played that season.

As far as the CAPs list, goes Deion had 6 INTs that season, how does that not deserve Ball Hawk.

Same with Hanks... He had 7. Both went to the pro bowl, and both had over 40 career INTs..

Why doesn't Deion have Ball Hawk Hitman?

[Bowdown]

Whats this in reference to Bowdown?

I just ment Norton will be playing at OLB since that is where he played that season.

As far as the CAPs list, goes Deion had 6 INTs that season, how does that not deserve Ball Hawk.

Same with Hanks... He had 7. Both went to the pro bowl, and both had over 40 career INTs..

Why doesn't Deion have Ball Hawk Hitman?


I only mentioned it because ILB and OLB are interchangable, so I assume you were changing something to him, reason why you posted the link.

I used the same team you want to use in Season one and I am heading to the finals! ;)


Bowdown - 1994 San Francisco 49ers

G: Jerry Rice WR
G: Deion Sanders CB (Hitmans List)
S: Steve Young QB (Accuracy and Scrambler)
S: Brent Jones TE
S: Ricky Watters RB
B: Gary Plummer OLB
B: John Taylor WR
B: Ken Norton ILB
B: Merton Hanks FS (Ball Hawk)
B: Tim McDonald SS (Coverage)
B: Eric Davis CB (Coverage, I think)

[The Overachiever]

I decided I'm gonna make Dwight Freeney a bronze, Because he only had 5.5 sacks on the year compared to Robert Mathis's 9.5!!! And I made some other changes.

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Magic Feet, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Robert Mathis (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark
LB - Cato June(Reach Tackle
CB - Mike Doss (Ball Hawk)
CB - Nick Harper (Ball Hawk)
DE - Dwight Freeney(Spin)

[Someone]

Can I get in with the 2000 Rams?

[amid]

Can I get in with the 2000 Rams? Why not take one of those Cleveland Browns Super Bowl teams?
:cool:

[Someone]

Why not take one of those Cleveland Browns Super Bowl teams?
:cool:

Marshal Faulk FTW, Hes my all time favorite NFL running back.

[nflhitman]

Can I get in with the 2000 Rams?

You need to make your team and post it. Abide by the player build criteria.

[Someone]

I have a rough outline of my team, but I need some help with the abilities.

Gold
HB- Marshall Faulk- Quick Feet, Cut Back, Soft Hands, Finesse, Clutch
WR-Isaac Bruce-

Silver
WR- Torry Holt-
QB- Kurt Warner- Rocket Arm, Laser Arm?
CB- Dexter McCleo- Ball Hawk, Coverage Bonus (8 ints)

Bronze
WR- Az-Zahir Hakim- Speed Burner (Punt Returner)
TE- Roland Williams-
DE- Kevin Carter (10 sacks)-
DE- Grant Wistrom (11 sacks)-
LB- Landon Fletcher-
SS- Devin Bush-

Any help to fill in the abilities would be greatly appreciated. If you think a player should be moved let me know.

[dtrain053]

Whats this in reference to Bowdown?

I just ment Norton will be playing at OLB since that is where he played that season.

As far as the CAPs list, goes Deion had 6 INTs that season, how does that not deserve Ball Hawk.

Same with Hanks... He had 7. Both went to the pro bowl, and both had over 40 career INTs..

Why doesn't Deion have Ball Hawk Hitman?

HITMAN, question for you......

[nyknicks33]

I have a rough outline of my team, but I need some help with the abilities.

Gold
HB- Marshall Faulk- Quick Feet, Cut Back, Soft Hands, Finesse, Clutch
WR-Isaac Bruce-

Silver
WR- Torry Holt-
QB- Kurt Warner- Rocket Arm, Laser Arm?
CB- Dexter McCleo- Ball Hawk, Coverage Bonus (8 ints)

Bronze
WR- Az-Zahir Hakim- Speed Burner (Punt Returner)
TE- Roland Williams-
DE- Kevin Carter (10 sacks)-
DE- Grant Wistrom (11 sacks)-
LB- Landon Fletcher-
SS- Devin Bush-

Any help to fill in the abilities would be greatly appreciated. If you think a player should be moved let me know.

I think you mean the 1999 Rams
Issac Bruce: Soft Hands, Tough In Middle, Posession, Route God, Magic Feet

Kurt Warner: Quick Release, Laser Arm. I'd personally have Warner as a Gold: Leadership, Pocket Persence, Quick Release, Laser Arm, Clutch

Torry Holt: Deep Threat, Breakaway Burst

Ricky Proehl instead of Roland Williams: clutch

Kevin Carter: Rip Move

Grant Wistrom: Club Move

London Fletcher: Leadership

Todd Lygh (CB)t- Ball Hawk

[nyknicks33]

I decided I'm gonna make Dwight Freeney a bronze, Because he only had 5.5 sacks on the year compared to Robert Mathis's 9.5!!! And I made some other changes.

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Magic Feet, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Robert Mathis (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark
LB - Cato June(Reach Tackle
CB - Mike Doss (Ball Hawk)
CB - Nick Harper (Ball Hawk)
DE - Dwight Freeney(Spin)


Freeney is the better overall player though. Freeney makes Mathis.

[Someone]

Gold
HB- Marshall Faulk- Quick Feet, Cut Back, Soft Hands, Finesse, Clutch
QB- Kurt Warner- Quick Release, Laser Arm, Leadership Bonus, Pocket Presence, Clutch

Silver
WR- Torry Holt- Deep Threat, Break Away Burst
WR-Isaac Bruce- Soft Hands, Tough in the Middle
CB- Dexter McCleo- Ball Hawk, Coverage Bonus (8 ints)

Bronze
WR- Az-Zahir Hakim- Speed Burner (Punt Returner)
WR- Ricky Proehl- Clutch
DE- Kevin Carter (10 sacks)- Rip Move
DE- Grant Wistrom (11 sacks)- Club
LB- Landon Fletcher- Leadership Bonus
CB- Todd Lygh- Ball Hawk

[twosilk]

changing my team just noticed that metzelarrs did not even start on that championship team, and since i want a te this season switching to the 1990 giants

gold-
olb-lawrence taylor-Pass Rush Bonus, Ball Strip,Speed Burner, Quick Feet, Closing Speed
cb- everson walls- ball hawk,coverage bonus,run coverage, wrap up tackler, clutch

silver-
te mark bavaro- bulldozer, tough in the middle
rb ottis anderson
dt erik howard- strength bonus, rip

bronze

qb jeff hostetler
de leonard marshall
ilb pepper johnson
olb carl banks
g/t william roberts- bulldozer
rb dave meggett

[dtrain053]

Whats this in reference to Bowdown?

I just ment Norton will be playing at OLB since that is where he played that season.

As far as the CAPs list, goes Deion had 6 INTs that season, how does that not deserve Ball Hawk.

Same with Hanks... He had 7. Both went to the pro bowl, and both had over 40 career INTs..

Why doesn't Deion have Ball Hawk Hitman?

HITMAN, question for you......

Just don't want this question lost in the shuffle.

[nflhitman]

HITMAN, question for you......

I have no problem with you adding Ball Hawk to Deion. Usually that is an attribute for players who get INT's. Deion got INT's but QB's were so scared to throw his way that he didn't get as many as others in league history. That is a testament to his abilities. I will add that option to his attributes.

[nflhitman]

Gold
HB- Marshall Faulk- Quick Feet, Cut Back, Soft Hands, Finesse, Clutch
QB- Kurt Warner- Quick Release, Laser Arm, Leadership Bonus, Pocket Presence, Clutch

Silver
WR- Torry Holt- Deep Threat, Break Away Burst
WR-Isaac Bruce- Soft Hands, Tough in the Middle
CB- Dexter McCleo- Ball Hawk, Coverage Bonus (8 ints)

Bronze
WR- Az-Zahir Hakim- Speed Burner (Punt Returner)
WR- Ricky Proehl- Clutch
DE- Kevin Carter (10 sacks)- Rip Move
DE- Grant Wistrom (11 sacks)- Club
LB- Landon Fletcher- Leadership Bonus
CB- Todd Lygh- Ball Hawk

Nice reflection of that team!

[nflhitman]

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&t=APF2K8&l=34585

NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

DTRAIN53 - 1994 San Francisco 49ers:

G: Jerry Rice
G: CB Deion Sanders (Speed Burner, Return Specialist, Quick Feet, Coverage Bonus, Ball Hawk)
S: QB Steve Young (Srambler, Laser Arm)
S: Brent Jones
S: FS Merton Hanks (Ball Hawk, ???)
B: Ken Norton Jr.
B: Gary Plummer
B: RB Ricky Waters (Soft Hands)
B: CB Eric Davis (Quick Feet)
B: S Tim McDonald (Coverage?)
B: John Taylor

Birdman1702 - 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs:

G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus
G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip
S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence
S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle
B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk
B: John Lynch FS - Footsteps
B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage
B: Mike Alstott RB - Power
B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver

Bowdown - Dallas Cowboys 93

G: HB Emmit Smith
G: Michael Irving
S: QB Aikman - Pocket presense, Leadership
S: OLB D Ewdards - Quick Feet, Ball Hawk
S: CB Kevin Smith- Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
B: TE Novacek - Possession WR
B: SS D Woodson - Coverage
B: WR Alvin Harper
B: CB Larry Brown - Ball Hawk
B: FS Bill Gates- Ball Hawk
B: ILB K Norton

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Strength Bonus, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers:

G: Willy Wood FS
G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops)
S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet)
S: QB Bart Starr
S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed)
B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches)
B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands)
B: Don Chandler K (power)
B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk)
B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed)
B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1990 NY Giants:

G: Lawrence Taylor OLB
G: Everson Walls CB
S: Mark Bavarro TE - Bull Dozer, Tough in the Middle
S: Ottis Anderson RB
S: Erik Howard DT - Strength Bonus, Rip
B: Jeff Hostetler QB
B: Pepper Johnson ILB
B: Carl Banks OLB
B: Dave Megget RB
B: Leonard Marshall DE
B: William Richards G/T - Bull Dozer

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders:

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

turtl83 2004 Philadelphia Eagles:

G: Donovan McNabb QB (Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?)
G: Terrell Owens WR (Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster)
S: Brian Westbrook RB (Soft Hands,BAB)
S: Jevon Kearse DE (Pass Rush,Rip)
S: Brian Dawkins FS (Big Hit,Leadership)
B: Jeremiah Trotter ILB (Closing Speed)
B: Lito Sheppard CB (Coverage Bonus)
B: Michael Lewis SS (Run Coverage)
B: Dhani Jones OLB (Run Coverage)
B: Todd Pinkston WR ( Quick Feet )<-- He was a horrible WR so only attribute I would give him is quick feet.
B: Sheldon Brown CB (Wrap up tackler)

2006 Colts - The Overachiever

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Magic Feet, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Cato June (Run Coverage)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Spin)

Benedictine - 2003 Panthers team:

G: Stephen Davis RB ( Secure Ball Bonus, Quick Feet, Strength Bonus, Power, Break Away Burst )
G: Deon Grant SS ( Ball Hawk, Closing Speed, Footsteps, Cover Bonus, Quick Feet )

S: Jake Delhomme QB ( Leadership Bonus, Rocket arm )
S: Mike Rucker DE ( Quick Feet, Strength Bonus )
S: Steve Smith WR ( Acrobatic Catch, Speed Burner )

B: Muhsin Muhammid WR ( Acrobatic Catch )
B: Rick Manning JR CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Reggie Howard CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: WIll Witherspoon OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Kris Jenkins DT ( Pass Rush Bonus )
B: Mike Minter FS ( Speed Burner )

El Greazy - 1968 NY Jets:

G | Namath (QB) | Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch
G | Sauer (WR) | 1st team All Pro + Pro Bowl + better stats than Maynard that year (CAP: possession receiver build)

S | Maynard (WR) | in game
S | Snell (RB) | in game
S | Phillbin (DE) | CAP pass rush build

B | Elliott (DT) | CAP Pass rush build
B | Atkinson (LB)
B | Sample (CB)
B | Beverly (CB)
B | Hudson (S)
B | Baird (S)

Aquick Assasin - 1999 STL. Rams:

Gold
HB- Marshall Faulk- Quick Feet, Cut Back, Soft Hands, Finesse, Clutch
QB- Kurt Warner- Quick Release, Laser Arm, Leadership Bonus, Pocket Presence, Clutch

Silver
WR- Torry Holt- Deep Threat, Break Away Burst
WR-Isaac Bruce- Soft Hands, Tough in the Middle
CB- Dexter McCleo- Ball Hawk, Coverage Bonus (8 ints)

Bronze
WR- Az-Zahir Hakim- Speed Burner (Punt Returner)
WR- Ricky Proehl- Clutch
DE- Kevin Carter (10 sacks)- Rip Move
DE- Grant Wistrom (11 sacks)- Club
LB- Landon Fletcher- Leadership Bonus
CB- Todd Lygh- Ball Hawk


Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

[dtrain053]

1994 San Francisco 49ers

G: Jerry Rice
G: CB Deion Sanders (Speed Burner, Return Specialist, Quick Feet, Leadership, Ball Hawk)
S: QB Steve Young (Srambler, Laser Arm)
S: Brent Jones
S: FS Merton Hanks (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
B: Ken Norton Jr.
B: Gary Plummer
B: RB Ricky Waters (Soft Hands)
B: CB Eric Davis (Quick Feet)
B: S Tim McDonald (Coverage)
B: John Taylor

[nyknicks33]

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Strength Bonus, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR


Bit of a dilemma here. The CBs were products of the system. None of them made a pro-bowl during the 46 defense era, despite their high INT totals, because they were basically lucking into INTs since the QB was being face planted every down and bailing out for his life. They had pretty short, ho-hum careers.

sooo...gonna change the team around to this:


NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Gary Fencik: Leadership, Ball Hawk (5 Ints)
S: Richard Dent: Strength Club
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Dave Duerson SS- Ball Hawk (5 Ints)
B: Wilbur Marshall- Ball Hawk (4 Ints)
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR


OR I could do this:

Defense:

LB: Mike Singletary
DT: Dan Hampton
DT: Fridge
DE: Dan Hampton
CB: Leslie Frazier-Ball Hawk
CB: Mike Richardson-Ball Hawk
FS: Gary Fencik-Ball Hawk, Leadeship
SS: David Duerson-Ball Hawk

Alternative 3- Best balance: Still good D and a chance to move the ball and use some clock.

LB: Mike Singletary
OLB: Otis Wilson
DT: Dan Hampton
DT: Fridge
FS: Gary Fencik- Ball Hawk, Leadership
SS: Dave Duerson- Run Reader, Ball Hawk


Offense:

QB: Jim McMahon: Rocket Arm
HB: Walter
FB: Matt Suhey: Soft Hands
WR: Willie Gault
WR: Dennis Mckinnon (Deep threat)




My Silver David Duerson is an absolute man beast, but Fencik and Dent were both better players then him

Duerson: 4 pro bowls, 20 Ints, 16 sacks
Dent: 137.5 Sacks, 8 Ints, 4 pro bowls, first team all-pro, 3 time 2nd team all pro.
Fencik: 37 Ints, 2 pro bowls, first team all pro, 5 time 2nd team all pro.

Scoring with this team remains a pain in the behind. I havent broken through the 13-17 point range, but damn! the defense is fun to play with, but what I need is the best chance to create the most turnovers possible with it. I'll need that so I wont have to go long field on offense as much, if I stick with the 3 man O, and 8 man D.

suggestions? Or is my original setup just fine and leave it the heck alone =o)

[The Overachiever]

It's taking awhile for this league to get started smh

[nflhitman]

It's taking awhile for this league to get started smh

Yes as I posted I would wait for the weekend to start it because I receiver more interest. It will be ready to join by Saturday Night.

[Kdrontle]

1995 Pittsburgh Steelers

G: Rod Woodson
G: Kevin Greene (sack master, rip, strength)

S: Greg Lloyd
S: Dermontii Dawson
S: Carnell Lake (Closing Speed, Strength Bonus)

B: Bam Morris RB (Strength- 244 lbs)
B: Neil O'Donnell QB
B: Yancey Thigpen WR
B: Levon Kirkland ILB (Strength - 280 LBS)
B: Willie Williams CB (coverage bonus 8 INT's)
B: Chad Brown ILB (Pass Rush 5.5 Sacks)

this IS my fav. team of all time!

[nflhitman]

These are the heights and weights that we need you to use. This is off this link.... http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Levon Kirkland
Height: 6' 1'' Weight: 271
Born: 2/16/1969, in Lamar, SC, USA
High School: Lamar (SC)
College: Clemson University
(Run Coverage, Clutch, Strength Bonus )

Willie Williams
Height: 5' 9'' Weight: 181
Born: 12/26/1970, in Columbia, SC, USA
High School: Spring Valley (Columbia, SC)
College: Western Carolina University
( Coverage Bonus, Ball Hawk ) Pick 1

Chad Brown
Height: 6' 2'' Weight: 242
Born: 7/12/1970, in Altadena, CA, USA
High School: John Muir (Altadena, CA)
College: University of Colorado
( Pass Rush Bonus, Quick Feet, Closing Speed ) Pick 1

Bam Morris
Height: 6' 0'' Weight: 235
Born: 1/13/1972, in Cooper, TX, USA
High School: Cooper (TX)
College: Texas Tech University
( Strength Bonus, Battering Ram ) Pick 1

Kevin Greene
Height: 6' 3'' Weight: 238
Born: 7/31/1962, in New York, NY, USA
High School: South (Granite City, IL)
College: Auburn University
(Pass Rush Bonus, Sack Master, Closing Speed, Big Hit, Strength Bonus, Run Reader, Reach Tackle, Leadership Bonus, Club, Clutch)Pick 5

Carnell Lake
Height: 6' 1'' Weight: 210
Born: 7/15/1967, in Salt Lake City, UT, USA
High School: Culver City (CA)
College: University of California - Los Angeles
( Coverage Bonus, Leadership Bonus, Closing Speed, Strength Bonus ) Pick 2

[nyknicks33]

Final Draft of the '85 Bears

Defense:

DT-Dan Hampton
DT-Fridge
DE-Richard Dent: Club, Strength
LB: Mike Singletary
FS: Gary Fencik: Ball Hawk, Leadership
SS: Dave Duerson: Ball Hawk

Offense

QB: Jim Mcmahon-Rocket Arm
HB: Walter Payton
FB: Matt Suhey-soft hands (33 receptions, 295 yds)
WR: Willie Gault
WR: Dennis McKinnon-Deep Threat (31 rec, 555 yds, 7 tds)

[Someone]

If anyone wants to play a pre-season/practice game send me a message on xbl.

[Kdrontle]

Gotcha Hitman. Are you okay with me giving Greene Rip or do you want me to use a listed ability? I am only able to use 3 abilities.

I tried this team against human competition and lets just say I'm going to need to learn how to pass short and hit FG's. The defense is easily the best I've ever played with. Strength + Leadership = good things.

[nflhitman]

Gotcha Hitman. Are you okay with me giving Greene Rip or do you want me to use a listed ability? I am only able to use 3 abilities.

I tried this team against human competition and lets just say I'm going to need to learn how to pass short and hit FG's. The defense is easily the best I've ever played with. Strength + Leadership = good things.

You can use Rip.

[nflhitman]

Americas Game 2 has been created!! Join

ASAP!!

League name is.... Americas Game 2

Password is.... 123

16 teams and only 8 playoff spots!!

[nflhitman]

I love NFL Networks show Americas game! IT chronicles the Superbowls teams journey to the big game and the players are the people narrating it. I was wondering why isn't there a league set up with this in mind? I know many players have tried starting a league that consist of the best teams from different eras but never really took off. I am wondering how many would be interested in this league and take it seriously? I will be making this league and yes I will be running 3 leagues but DL9 is the only league that requires much work at all so DDD and Americas Game would be simple to run with the help off some members. This game is all about Legends so lets take it to the next level and put them where they belong, Together with there team mates. Can your 70's Steelers beat the 90's Cowboys? Can your St. Louis Rams of 2000 beat the Patriots of 2000 in a rematch? Stop talking and get in the game!

Here is how this will work. You can use as many Legends the game has to offer for your team and than some CAPs to complete that team. Your team must have went to the Superbowl to be in this league but they didnt have to win it, just be in it. Post your team and go by the league rules on player creation and your good to go. Obviously you will have to figure who will be your Gold - Bronzes so dropping a players tier that is in the game is understandable but if you create a player that is already in this game they must have the height, weight, and you have to use the attributes the game has listed for that player. So if you choose John Elway but drop him to Silver you can but you have to use 2 out of the 5 attributes that are listed for him.

Banned attributes for your CAPs

Branching Tackles
Workhorse
Route God
Signal Stealer
Cadence
You can give only 1 type of speed attribute to your player, You can not layer speed on a player.

If you are using a player in this game that has those banned attributes than that is ok. These banned attributes are only applicable when you creat a player.

When you are using CAPs you must make them to there exact specs. This is where I will go to check your CAP player for accuracy on height and weight.

http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerlist.htm

Link to league rules...........

http://online.2ksports.com/league/news?p=360&t=APF2K8&l=34585

NFLHITMAN - 1975 Dallas Cowboys:

G: Roger Staubach QB
G: Randy White DT
S: Ed "Too Tall" Jones DE
S: Drew Pearson WR
S: Billy Joe Dupree TE
B: Charlie Waters SS
B: Harvey Martin DE
B: John "Golden" Richards WR ( Clutch )
B: Dave Edwards OLB ( Run Reader )
B: Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson OLB ( Speed Burner )
B: Lee Jordan OLB ( Ball Hawk )

DTRAIN53 - 1994 San Francisco 49ers:

G: Jerry Rice
G: CB Deion Sanders (Speed Burner, Return Specialist, Quick Feet, Coverage Bonus, Ball Hawk)
S: QB Steve Young (Srambler, Laser Arm)
S: Brent Jones
S: FS Merton Hanks (Ball Hawk, ???)
B: Ken Norton Jr.
B: Gary Plummer
B: RB Ricky Waters (Soft Hands)
B: CB Eric Davis (Quick Feet)
B: S Tim McDonald (Coverage?)
B: John Taylor

Birdman1702 - 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs:

G: Simeon Rice DE - Speed Burner, Rip, Spin, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus
G: Derrick Brooks OLB - Leadership, Clutch, Quick Feet, Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
S: Warren Sapp DT - Quick Feet, Rip
S: Brad Johnson QB - Leadership, Pocket Presence
S: Keyshawn Johnson WR - Bump Buster, Tough in the Middle
B: Ronde Barber CB - Coverage Bonus
B: Brian Kelly CB - Ball Hawk
B: John Lynch FS - Footsteps
B: Shelton Quarles ILB - Run Coverage
B: Mike Alstott RB - Power
B: Keenan McCardell WR - Possession Receiver

Bowdown - Dallas Cowboys 93

G: HB Emmit Smith
G: Michael Irving
S: QB Aikman - Pocket presense, Leadership
S: OLB D Ewdards - Quick Feet, Ball Hawk
S: CB Kevin Smith- Closing Speed, Ball Hawk
B: TE Novacek - Possession WR
B: SS D Woodson - Coverage
B: WR Alvin Harper
B: CB Larry Brown - Ball Hawk
B: FS Bill Gates- Ball Hawk
B: ILB K Norton

NY KIA - 1985 Chicago Bears:

G: Mike Singletary ILB
G: Walter Payton RB
S: Dan Hampton DT
S: Richard Dent DE - Strength Bonus, Club
S: Dave Duerson SS - Run Reader, Ball Hawk
B: Otis Wilson OLB
B: William Perry DT
B: Leslie Frazier CB - Ball Hawk
B: Mike Richardson CB - Ball Hawk
B: Jim McMahon QB - Rocket Arm
B: Willie Gault WR

tjspeaks - 1967 Green Bay Packers:

G: Willy Wood FS
G: Boyd Dowler WR (soft hands, speed burner, hops)
S: Dave Robinson OLB (coverage bonus, quick feet)
S: QB Bart Starr
S: Bob Jeter CB (ball hawk, closing speed)
B: Carroll Dale WR (acrobatic catches)
B: Marv Fleming TE (soft hands)
B: Don Chandler K (power)
B: Herb Adderley CB (ball hawk)
B: Tom Brown SS (closing speed)
B: Lee Roy Caffey OLB (pass rush bonus)

twosilk32811 - 1990 NY Giants:

G: Lawrence Taylor OLB
G: Everson Walls CB
S: Mark Bavarro TE - Bull Dozer, Tough in the Middle
S: Ottis Anderson RB
S: Erik Howard DT - Strength Bonus, Rip
B: Jeff Hostetler QB
B: Pepper Johnson ILB
B: Carl Banks OLB
B: Dave Megget RB
B: Leonard Marshall DE
B: William Richards G/T - Bull Dozer

FLAxWLESS - 2002 Oakland Raiders:

G: Rick Gannon QB ( Scrambler, Quick Feet, Leadership Bonus, Laser Arm, Deception )
G: Charlie Garner ( Break Away Burst, Finesse, Cutback Ability, Quick Feet, Soft Hands )
S: Jerry Rice WR ( Route God, Soft Hands )
S: Tim Brown WR ( Tough in the Middle, Possession Receiver )
S: Rod Woodson FS ( Leadership Bonus, Coverage Bonus )
B: Jerry Porter WR ( Acrobatic Catches )
B: Charles Woodson CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Tory James CB ( Ball Hawk )
B: Bill Romanowski OLB ( Run Coverage )
B: Eric Barton OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Napolean Harris MLB ( Closing Speed )

turtl83 2004 Philadelphia Eagles:

G: Donovan McNabb QB (Scrambler,Rocket,Strength,Quick Feet,Pass Threat?)
G: Terrell Owens WR (Leadership,Deep Threat,Quick Feet,Strength,Bump Buster)
S: Brian Westbrook RB (Soft Hands,BAB)
S: Jevon Kearse DE (Pass Rush,Rip)
S: Brian Dawkins FS (Big Hit,Leadership)
B: Jeremiah Trotter ILB (Closing Speed)
B: Lito Sheppard CB (Coverage Bonus)
B: Michael Lewis SS (Run Coverage)
B: Dhani Jones OLB (Run Coverage)
B: Todd Pinkston WR ( Quick Feet )<-- He was a horrible WR so only attribute I would give him is quick feet.
B: Sheldon Brown CB (Wrap up tackler)

2006 Colts - The Overachiever

QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Soft Hands, Magic Feet, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark (Break Away Burst)
OLB - Cato June (Run Coverage)
CB - Kelvin Hayden (Quick Feet)
CB - Marlin Jackson (Bump Master)
DE - Robert Mathis(Spin)

Benedictine - 2003 Panthers team:

G: Stephen Davis RB ( Secure Ball Bonus, Quick Feet, Strength Bonus, Power, Break Away Burst )
G: Deon Grant SS ( Ball Hawk, Closing Speed, Footsteps, Cover Bonus, Quick Feet )

S: Jake Delhomme QB ( Leadership Bonus, Rocket arm )
S: Mike Rucker DE ( Quick Feet, Strength Bonus )
S: Steve Smith WR ( Acrobatic Catch, Speed Burner )

B: Muhsin Muhammid WR ( Acrobatic Catch )
B: Rick Manning JR CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Reggie Howard CB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: WIll Witherspoon OLB ( Coverage Bonus )
B: Kris Jenkins DT ( Pass Rush Bonus )
B: Mike Minter FS ( Speed Burner )

El Greazy - 1968 NY Jets:

G | Namath (QB) | Rocket Arm - Quick Release - Pocket Pressence - Leadership - Clutch
G | Sauer (WR) | 1st team All Pro + Pro Bowl + better stats than Maynard that year (CAP: possession receiver build)

S | Maynard (WR) | in game
S | Snell (RB) | in game
S | Phillbin (DE) | CAP pass rush build

B | Elliott (DT) | CAP Pass rush build
B | Atkinson (LB)
B | Sample (CB)
B | Beverly (CB)
B | Hudson (S)
B | Baird (S)

Aquick Assasin - 1999 STL. Rams:

Gold
HB- Marshall Faulk- Quick Feet, Cut Back, Soft Hands, Finesse, Clutch
QB- Kurt Warner- Quick Release, Laser Arm, Leadership Bonus, Pocket Presence, Clutch

Silver
WR- Torry Holt- Deep Threat, Break Away Burst
WR-Isaac Bruce- Soft Hands, Tough in the Middle
CB- Dexter McCleo- Ball Hawk, Coverage Bonus (8 ints)

Bronze
WR- Az-Zahir Hakim- Speed Burner (Punt Returner)
WR- Ricky Proehl- Clutch
DE- Kevin Carter (10 sacks)- Rip Move
DE- Grant Wistrom (11 sacks)- Club
LB- Landon Fletcher- Leadership Bonus
CB- Todd Lygh- Ball Hawk


Some Americas Game videos...........

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80723c65 ------ 49ers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099e9c ------ Patriots

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008ccd1 ------ Steelers

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008f9c1 ------- Redskins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd5c ------- Raiders

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008cd8b ------- Dolphins

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d801fb0b8 ------- Colts

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fc38 ------- Bears

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008faf1 -------- Giants

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80099a5e ------- Broncos

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8008fb8d ------- Cowboys

What team are you going to relive the glory years with?

[cHuMp3s]

still can join?
if so

GT: GnB 187
1997-98 Denver Broncos
Gold: #80 WR Rod Smith 6-0 200lb (Deep Threat, Soft Hands, Leadership)
Gold: #30 RB Terrell Davis 5-10 210lb (Speed Burner, Strength, Quick Feet)

Silver: #81 TE Shannon Sharpe 6-2 228lb (Route God, Speed Burner)In-Game Ability For CAP
Silver: #7 QB John Elway 6-3 215lb (Rocket Arm, 4th Quarter Comback)
Silver: #27 FS Steve At water 6-3 220lb (Run Coverage, Closing Speed)

Bronze: #21 CB/KR/PR Darrien Gordon 5-11 190lb (Return Specialist)
Bronze: #39 CB Ray Crockett 5-10 185lb (Quick Feet)
Bronze: #29 FB Howard Griffith 6-4 240lb (Bulldozer)
Bronze: #53 OLB Bill Romanowski 6-4 245lb (Wrap-Up Tackler)
Bronze: #87 WR Ed McCaffrey 6-5 215lb (Tough In The Middle)
Bronze: #34 SS Tyrone Braxton 5-11 190lb (Coverage Bonus)

[nflhitman]

still can join?
if so

GT: GnB 187
1997-98 Denver Broncos
Gold: #80 WR Rod Smith 6-0 200lb (Deep Threat, Soft Hands, Leadership)
Gold: #30 RB Terrell Davis 5-10 210lb (Speed Burner, Strength, Quick Feet)

Silver: #81 TE Shannon Sharpe 6-2 228lb (Route God, Speed Burner)In-Game Ability For CAP
Silver: #7 QB John Elway 6-3 215lb (Rocket Arm, 4th Quarter Comback)
Silver: #27 FS Steve At water 6-3 220lb (Run Coverage, Leadership Bonus)

Bronze: #21 CB/KR/PR Darrien Gordon 5-11 190lb (Quick Feet)
Bronze: #39 CB Ray Crockett 5-10 185lb (Coverage Bonus)
Bronze: #29 FB Howard Griffith 6-4 240lb (Bulldozer)
Bronze: #53 OLB Bill Romanowski 6-4 245lb (Wrap-Up Tackler)
Bronze: #87 WR Ed McCaffrey 6-5 215lb (Tough In The Middle)
Bronze: #34 SS Tyrone Braxton 5-11 190lb (Closing Speed)

I will keep you in mind if everyone does not join. Send me a Friends Request so I can let you know. I will be at the Seahawks game today so I won't know how many have joined yet.

[twosilk]

hate to ask hitman, but is it possible switch teams again??? would like to use the 87 skins if possible, would have the team done and entered by tonight, tried this giants team, and just can't move the ball with them. let me know asap, making the team now


gold-
cb- darrell green-(Speed Burner, Closing Speed, Coverage Bonus, Leadership Bonus, Clutch )
wr- art monk- (Possession Receiver, Tough in the Middle, Soft Hands, Bump Buster, Quick Feet)

silver-
wr gary clark
qb- doug williams- leadership, rocket arm
ss/fs- barry wilburn- ball hawk, hops

bronze-
de dexter manley
dt dave butz
wr ricky sanders
t joe jacoby
olb monte coleman- wrap up tackler
ilb neal olkewicz- quick feet

[dtrain053]

Hitman, I made Neon Deion with Leadership not Coverage Bonus....

[M CARDOSO1]

Hey NFLHITMAN I was wondering if I could join this league if there are any other openings left?

[nflhitman]

hate to ask hitman, but is it possible switch teams again??? would like to use the 87 skins if possible, would have the team done and entered by tonight, tried this giants team, and just can't move the ball with them. let me know asap, making the team now


gold-
cb- darrell green-(Speed Burner, Closing Speed, Coverage Bonus, Leadership Bonus, Clutch )
wr- art monk- (Possession Receiver, Tough in the Middle, Soft Hands, Bump Buster, Quick Feet)

silver-
wr gary clark
qb- doug williams- leadership, rocket arm
ss/fs- barry wilburn- ball hawk, hops

bronze-
de dexter manley
dt dave butz
wr ricky sanders
t joe jacoby
olb monte coleman- wrap up tackler
ilb neal olkewicz- quick feet

Good to go twosilk!

BTW when you were playing that zombie game it wasn't me it was vegas96 at my house playing you why I set up the cam corder to watch on the TV after our trip to the Seahawks Game!

[nflhitman]

Hey NFLHITMAN I was wondering if I could join this league if there are any other openings left?

If I need another I will let you know.

[RedskinsGM2B]

1983 Washington Redskins (Redegades)

GOLD
Russ Grimm (G) *In Game*
Darrell Green (CB) *Ball Hawk, Speed Burner, Coverage Bonus*

SILVER
Joe Theismann (QB) *In Game*
Art Monk (WR) *Speed Burner, Soft Hands*
John Riggins (RB) *Strength Bonus, Finesse & Power*

Bronze
Mark Murphy (FS) *Ball Hawk*
Dexter Manley (DE) *In Game*
Charles Mann (DE) *Sack Master*
Dave Butz (DT) *In Game*
Joe Jacoby (T) *In Game*
Neil Olkewicz (MLB) *Wrap Up Tackler*

How are people getting 4-5 attributes on GOLD CAP's? And, 3 for Silver? When I make them, only 2 are allowed for Silver & only 3 for GOLD. Are some Bronze CAP's able to have 2? Just wondering what I'm not understanding. I would have rather had Russ Grimm Silver & Push John Riggins or Joe Theismann to Gold... I kinda got stuck with players that the game already had & what they were rated/regarded as. Are there ways to manipulate that? Gimme some pointers please.

[Bowdown]

The only silvers you'll see with more then 2 attributes are the legends in the game, if you want to create gold legends with 5 attributes you must beat all 50 accomplishments in the game. If not then you will only be able to assign 3 attributes. Bronze is the same only in game legends have more then 1 attribute

[RedskinsGM2B]

The only silvers you'll see with more then 2 attributes are the legends in the game, if you want to create gold legends with 5 attributes you must beat all 50 accomplishments in the game. If not then you will only be able to assign 3 attributes. Bronze is the same only in game legends have more then 1 attribute

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I appreciate it. Perhaps I should work on that for awhile and catch the NEXT league. I would be starting out at an insurmountable disadvantage huh?

[nflhitman]

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I appreciate it. Perhaps I should work on that for awhile and catch the NEXT league. I would be starting out at an insurmountable disadvantage huh?

You don't have to use all the legends in the game to create your team. I only ask that you make sure that the face of that team is represented. You are allowed to move a Gold or Silver player down but you can only give him the attributes that the game gives him. So if you moved Russ Grim down to Silver you can give him 2 of the assigned attributes he has listed.

Dave Wilcox, Willie Wood, Shannon Sharpe and more have 3 attributes or less and they are very good. Stay in the league and chalk it up as experience for more leagues to come. Work on your achievements for next season. I have made 3 attribute players that were far better than any Gold 5 attibute player I have had. My 3 attibute Gold DE ( Patrick Kerney ) in nfl 2k8 league lead the league in sacks and was a beast to contend with.

[amid]

Good to go twosilk! BTW when you were playing that zombie game it wasn't me it was vegas96 at my house

playin' a zombie game with 96vegas, wow twosilk, life doesn't get any better than that :eek:

[twosilk]

playin' a zombie game with 96vegas, wow twosilk, life doesn't get any better than that :eek:

left for dead 4, and it is a awesome game.

[Someone]

I want to make sure this is ok, before I have someone moan and groan about it. Is it all right if I move Marshall Faulk out to WR in 4 and 5 WR sets? It would mostly be 5 WR sets which I really don't run all that often.

[RedskinsGM2B]

Then, in that case, I guess I'll just leave it where it is and, like you said, work on my achievements. Hopefully, some of those players will progress. But, I'll tell you, I just played a game & 5 min qtrs does NOT allow much opportunity for players to rack up much...unless you're a swing for the fences every play kinda guy. Is there any conflicts with my team?

[Someone]

Then, in that case, I guess I'll just leave it where it is and, like you said, work on my achievements. Hopefully, some of those players will progress. But, I'll tell you, I just played a game & 5 min qtrs does NOT allow much opportunity for players to rack up much...unless you're a swing for the fences every play kinda guy. Is there any conflicts with my team?

What kind of game do you play? Do you try to take your time and drive methodically down the field? If you do I would love to play you with one of my heavy run teams. I can't pass worth a crap, so I've learned to take a long time to score. My record long drive was a 8 minute and 30 second drive off of the kickoff. Yes it was legit. Its so much fun to do.

[nflhitman]

Then, in that case, I guess I'll just leave it where it is and, like you said, work on my achievements. Hopefully, some of those players will progress. But, I'll tell you, I just played a game & 5 min qtrs does NOT allow much opportunity for players to rack up much...unless you're a swing for the fences every play kinda guy. Is there any conflicts with my team?

Your team is good to go. Make sure you use the link in the main post to create your players with the correct height & weight. Our league has 6 minute quarters to give a more SIM stat experience.

[nflhitman]

Americas Game 2 has been created!! Join

ASAP!!

League name is.... Americas Game 2

Password is.... 123

16 teams and only 8 playoff spots!!

Many people interested and only 16 spots in the league. The 1st 16 to join are in!

[dtrain053]

Americas Game 2 has been created!! Join

ASAP!!

League name is.... Americas Game 2

Password is.... 123

16 teams and only 8 playoff spots!!

Many people interested and only 16 spots in the league. The 1st 16 to join are in!

Hooray I can sign into XBL... joining now!


Did you see my post about Sanders? I gave him Leadership not Coverage (Its on the list)

[The Overachiever]

I joined. Wanna know team stuff?

[nflhitman]

I joined. Wanna know team stuff?

Yes I need to know the team stuff :)

[RedskinsGM2B]

Your team is good to go. Make sure you use the link in the main post to create your players with the correct height & weight. Our league has 6 minute quarters to give a more SIM stat experience.

Well thanks. My team is already made. Just not sure it's the optimal setup. I wish I had unlocked the 5 skill thing but, realistically, I probably wouldn't be able to pull off some of things for quite awhile. Seems I'm going through re-familiarization period right now. I'll take a beating but, I won't quit.

[RedskinsGM2B]

What kind of game do you play? Do you try to take your time and drive methodically down the field? If you do I would love to play you with one of my heavy run teams. I can't pass worth a crap, so I've learned to take a long time to score. My record long drive was a 8 minute and 30 second drive off of the kickoff. Yes it was legit. Its so much fun to do.

You're absolutely right. That's me. Short, high percentage plays with a mix of occasional deep shots to keep the "D" honest. But, like I said earlier, that game I played? Score was 7-0.

[nflhitman]

There are ways to get the achievements quick. I got all 50 in 1 day.

[Someone]

There are ways to get the achievements quick. I got all 50 in 1 day.

You didn't get the 50 wins legit? Anyway what achievements are you having problems with?

[The Overachiever]

Yes I need to know the team stuff :)

ROFL Nicca no u dont. JP

Ay

it's


QB - Peyton Manning (Quick Release, Laser Arm, Rocket Arm)
WR - Marvin Harrison (Leadership , Magic Feet, Quick Feet,)
SS - Bob Sanders (Ball Hawk, Quick Feet)
WR - Reggie Wayne (Break Away Burst, Acrobatic Catches)
DE - Dwight Freeney (Speed Burner, Spin)
HB - Joseph Addai (Finesse)
TE - Dallas Clark(Soft Hands)
LB - Cato June(Reach Tackle
CB - Jason David (Ball Hawk)
CB - Nick Harper (Ball Hawk)
DE - Robert Mathis(Spin)

[nflhitman]

You didn't get the 50 wins legit? Anyway what achievements are you having problems with?

Right. I don't know anyone who did. I am not trying to beat a game legit to unlock achievements. Thats why there are cheat codes.

[Someone]

Right. I don't know anyone who did. I am not trying to beat a game legit to unlock achievements. Thats why there are cheat codes.

I got em legit

[The Overachiever]

Right. I don't know anyone who did. I am not trying to beat a game legit to unlock achievements. Thats why there are cheat codes.

OMG does the cheat code still work? OMG please help me I want the 50 please man I'll pay you man!!

[Av3ng3d Ryd3r]

Right. I don't know anyone who did. I am not trying to beat a game legit to unlock achievements. Thats why there are cheat codes.
you know me, i legitly got all the online achievements.

[M CARDOSO1]

so im guessing that i wont be able to get in?

[RedskinsGM2B]

There are ways to get the achievements quick. I got all 50 in 1 day.

And...? Help a brutha out. I'm hurtin. I don't remember the the mechanics being so lethargic. ie. QB takes forever to make his 3, 5, or 7 step drops or simply the release. I'm having to struggle at reaquainting myself again. What REALLY gets me is that "KICKING" mechanism. Whooo! What in the world?! Am I suffering from old man disease or, has that always been the way it was??

[Someone]

And...? Help a brutha out. I'm hurtin. I don't remember the the mechanics being so lethargic. ie. QB takes forever to make his 3, 5, or 7 step drops or simply the release. I'm having to struggle at reaquainting myself again. What REALLY gets me is that "KICKING" mechanism. Whooo! What in the world?! Am I suffering from old man disease or, has that always been the way it was??

Kicking I think is a piece of Cake, but I have missed a few that I should make. However. My suggestion is to manually drop the QB. What acheivments do you need?

[Bowdown]

Right. I don't know anyone who did. I am not trying to beat a game legit to unlock achievements. Thats why there are cheat codes.


All my online achievement are legit :cool:

[nflhitman]

And...? Help a brutha out. I'm hurtin. I don't remember the the mechanics being so lethargic. ie. QB takes forever to make his 3, 5, or 7 step drops or simply the release. I'm having to struggle at reaquainting myself again. What REALLY gets me is that "KICKING" mechanism. Whooo! What in the world?! Am I suffering from old man disease or, has that always been the way it was??

This games physics are more realistic than Madden. If you want to throw a deep ball you QB will have to wind up like in real life. Gold QB's will make those throws much easier. Bronze level players really need to wind up to throw the deep ball unless you have a Rocket Arm QB. In that case you will have to hold down the A button to power up your throwing power. If you are used to Madden and its flick of the wrist 6o yard bombs than that doesn't happen in this game. The kicking will take getting used to but at least its not auto matic and makes you think about more than Madden does.

[nflhitman]

13 people in with 3 more left to go. If you see someone that posted they wanted in but has not joined yet than send them a message. I have not been on as much lately and I won't be on as much until after Thanksgiving. If you notice the league got filled up send me a message so I can generate the schedule.

The last 3 spots are not saved. If you wanted in than make your team and join ASAP. Make sure your team is the same as the team you posted. First 16 to join get to play!

[ImBACKK,killah5]

Forget the Packers I'll make a patriot team. It was their last Superbowl.

G-Tom Brady
G-Richard Seymour
S-Corey Dilion
S-Asante Samuel
S-Deion Branch
B-Willie McGinest
B-Mike Vrabel
B-Randall ***
B-Keith Traylor
B-Tedy Bruschi
B-David Givens

I would like some input on this setup.

[RedskinsGM2B]

This games physics are more realistic than Madden. If you want to throw a deep ball you QB will have to wind up like in real life. Gold QB's will make those throws much easier. Bronze level players really need to wind up to throw the deep ball unless you have a Rocket Arm QB. In that case you will have to hold down the A button to power up your throwing power. If you are used to Madden and its flick of the wrist 6o yard bombs than that doesn't happen in this game. The kicking will take getting used to but at least its not auto matic and makes you think about more than Madden does.

I COMPLETELY agree with you. I love the "feel" of the 2K series and believe it to have always been a superior game throughout. The motion is smoother and like you said, the QB's actually have the motion of shifting the momentum of the dropback to make the throw or to set their feet before the throw. Also, I like (though, I have to re-train myself) how the ball loses velocity if it's thrown while still in the motion of dropping back. Agreed. The mechanics ARE superior, hence my difficulty w/purging the Maddenesque habits I've been poisoned with since 2K5. OMG! What a glorious day it would be, to see the return of 2K to the NFL.

[RedskinsGM2B]

Kicking I think is a piece of Cake, but I have missed a few that I should make. However. My suggestion is to manually drop the QB. What acheivments do you need?

:o Sadly, I'd say, about 35 of the 50.

[Someone]

:o Sadly, I'd say, about 35 of the 50.

whats your GT? Alot of the offline ones are a piece of cake.

[RedskinsGM2B]

whats your gt? Alot of the offline ones are a piece of cake.

redskinsgm2b

[nflhitman]

13 people in with 3 more left to go. If you see someone that posted they wanted in but has not joined yet than send them a message. I have not been on as much lately and I won't be on as much until after Thanksgiving. If you notice the league got filled up send me a message so I can generate the schedule.

The last 3 spots are not saved. If you wanted in than make your team and join ASAP. Make sure your team is the same as the team you posted. First 16 to join get to play!


Lets make this happen ASAP!

[M CARDOSO1]

can i join since theres open spots

[nflhitman]

can i join since theres open spots

Yes, I said the 1st 16 to join. Post your team here.

[ElGreazy78]

If it's not too late I'd like to back out of the league. I'm playing a lot of other games now and I'm trying to not put too much of my time to be taxed on so many leagues, so I'm going to try to keep it to a minimal (prob only NFL2K league for now). Plus, I may be joining some GOW2 clans.

[nflhitman]

League schedule was generated as I joined with my sons GT. PLAY BALL!

[turtl83]

Man 'o man..What a crazy game to start the season. Eagles vs Steelers(CreatineKasey). He returns two kickoffs for tds by Rod Woodson. He misses one fg. Another gets blocked from the 2 yrd line!! With 20 seconds left and trailing by 2, I complete a pass to get me to my own 43 but there's a penalty. It goes against him so that stops the clock for me. One more completion to T.O. and I have a chance to win the game with my second 53 yrd fg attempt. I make it and eek out a 15-14 W on the leg of Nate Conway.

[Kdrontle]

Nate Conway made FG's from 52, 53, and 45 I believe! It was a very interesting game. Woodson was a beast and my offense as a whole played like a bunch of kittens :(. I NEED Bam Morris to break some freaking tackles and chew up some yards if I expect to win anything. The Eagles had to fight an uphill battle throughout the whole game. This is the second league game in a row that I've played where I lost the lead with less than 10 seconds left. BOO!

GG Turtl! Wish I could get revenge on you but we don't play the rest of the season. GL!

[RedskinsGM2B]

Anytime after 8 p.m. Thanksgiving weekend, we'll be driving back to VA. Heading back to Fort Stewart on that Sunday or Monday morning. It's still possible to play while I'm there w/my wireless adapter. Just a matter of EVERYBODY wanting to play ROCKBAND 2 all the time. So, accessability and roll of the dice. LOL Anyway, enjoy my studentesgue talent this first season while I reaquaint myself with the game. Even in "Practice Mode" I'm lacking. hehe
Glad we're up and going though. Thanks for having me.

[M CARDOSO1]

what and who are on the team you joined with on your sons gamertag?

[turtl83]

Had another close win against dtrain.Here's an 8 minute video of it, enjoy.
http://files.filefront.com/dtrainturtl/;12436785;/fileinfo.html

[amid]

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America's Game II league website:

http://online.2ksports.com/league/index?p=360&t=APF2K8&l=34799

.

[Kdrontle]

Nice vid Turtl! You don't miss FG's very much do you? Friggin' splitting the uprights every single kick from 45+. That was a nice duel between some top offenses in our league. That PR by Deion had to be gut wrenching for you. That's 3 returns for TD against you this season in 2 games! Your D is showing up, your special teams... maybe not :)

[nflhitman]

When I click the video link it doesn't show anything but the site he used?

[ImBACKK,killah5]

When I click the video link it doesn't show anything but the site he used?

It's not a streaming video you got to download it.


About the video: That punt return by Dtrain was one of the best I've seen. Good vid hope to see more.

[amid]

.

America's Game : Super Bowl I
1994 San Francisco 49ers (Bowdown) vs. 2000 Baltimore Ravens (tjspeaks)


49ers are the Champions!
49ers hang on as Baltimore runs out of time to attempt the tying field goal

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc73/tjspeaks/1-115.jpg

Congrats Bowdown!

.

[turtl83]

Had another tough game,this one against number1killah.And here's some moving pictures for your enjoyment.

http://files.filefront.com/Pats+vs+Eaglesm4v/;12473390;/fileinfo.html

[ImBACKK,killah5]

Man I feel like the 2008 chargers......lost two games in the final minute.....I suck so bad with this team. I won't quit though but I'm going to change up the way I play. Hope fully I don't make any enemies.

[Kdrontle]

I'm getting kicked around like a junkyard dog. At worst I'm playing the role of spoiler for all you playoff hopefuls! Better watch out for that D.. might sneak up on ya!

[amid]

HITMAN,

Can you heal Wayne Bruschi's Forearm (Compound Fracture)...

[TW_Kamikaze]

Can I Join the league? I have the 1972 dolphins team created, it has mostly created players, besides two guys. I think I am good with the banned attributes. Is the league full?

[nflhitman]

Can I Join the league? I have the 1972 dolphins team created, it has mostly created players, besides two guys. I think I am good with the banned attributes. Is the league full?

The league has already started. Send me a friends request as I always send a invite to everyone on my Friends list when one of my leagues are taking sign ups.

[Kdrontle]

Guys check out O'Donnell's stats. I just played my 9th game last night and I threw my FIRST touchdown pass of the season. uhhhhhhh

How did I ever win 3 games?

Season 3 I'm changing that offense up. I tried to be authentic but you know what? A silver OL on a 4 legend offense isn't gonna fly against good players.

DIE NEIL DIE!

[nyknicks33]

Guys check out O'Donnell's stats. I just played my 9th game last night and I threw my FIRST touchdown pass of the season. uhhhhhhh

How did I ever win 3 games?

Season 3 I'm changing that offense up. I tried to be authentic but you know what? A silver OL on a 4 legend offense isn't gonna fly against good players.

DIE NEIL DIE!


Yeah, I played some practice games with a hardcore, 85 bear defense squad.

It was vicious, but I was just on the field way too much lol.

It's too difficult for your defense to score off the turnovers and havoc they wreck.

I just went with the key guys, and tried to balance that iwth the way the team played in real life on both sides of the ball.

With the bears, I kept the DL's, Singletary, and the 2 safeties. Basically I kept everyone who made the pro bowl except for otis wilson,

Outside of Walter, the Of was all bronze, with a FB, qB and 2 deep threat Wrs. That's how the 85 bears played.

Maybe next season you can go:

Rod
Greene
Loyd
3 other Defensive players

and O go with Dawson, Neil, Bam, and a couple of recievers.

[Kdrontle]

I'm thinking about:

G- OLB Greene
G- CB Woodson

S- OLB Lloyd
S- Thigpen WR - upgrade (he had 1300 yards recieving!)
S- Carnell Lake

B- O'Donnell QB
B- Bam Morris RB (giving him POWER or Battering Ram) Strength was SO BAD on him it was obscene! He never ONCE shoulder charged ONE player... not one generic DB! It bugged me... a lot.
B- Chad Brown ILB
B- Levon Kirkland ILB
B- Ernie Mills WR (Deep Threat) 8 TD's, 17 yards per catch. He had an insanely important catch in the Colts-Steelers 1995 AFC championship game (just watched it on youtube haha)
B- Willie Williams -CB - he had 7 INT's I should probably keep him.

The big switch is moving thigpen up and getting Ernie Mills in there. There were times where Dawson went beast mode and gave me huge holes, and maybe i'll stick with the guy, but man those generic WR's in combination with O'Donnell gave me fits.

I might keep it the same and just change Bam Morris' attributes. He's the only real player that bothered me... I expected so much more out of him.

[dtrain053]

I just got the red rings. Looks like I wont be able to finish the season.

[Fre@k of $atan7]

Hitman or Amid, either of you up for a game within the next 20 minutes?