Chad0034s Custom MLB 2K9 Ratings

[chad0034]

Here are the ratings I'll be using for MLB 2K9. I always adjust the players accordingly right when the game comes out. It takes a while, but I love doing it. Ill go by position and name the top 25 or so players of that position, and what I feel they should be rated. Feel free to comment on them, or tell me someone I've missed.

Catcher
1. Russell Martin- 90 (Great Hitter, and has a lot of speed. Deserves the number spot this year.)
2. Brian McCann- 89 (McCann has the best pop at the position.)
3. Joe Mauer- 89 (A very consistent guy, but we might grow old waiting for the true power to come.)
4. Geovany Soto- 86 (Breakout rookie might warrant No. 1 spot, but there's just more experience above him.)
5. Victor Martinez- 85 (Annual No. 1 was a monster disappointment and now has injury risk weighing him down.)
6. Bengie Molina- 85 (Very few backstops are their team's leading RBI man, but Molina is getting old.)
7. Ryan Doumit- 82 (He has always been a great bat, but he has given the Pirates confidence defensively.)
8. Chris Ianetta- 81 (Among the many breakthroughs at this position and we expect more improvement.)
9. Jorge Posada- 81 (Shoulder hopefully will be corrected via surgery, but there is still a lot of risk here.)
10. AJ Piersynski- 80 (Veteran is a steady option year-to-year, but age suggests you should let him fall to you.)
11. Ivan Rodriguez- 79 (His end of the season swoon with the Yankees should convince you he is low end.)
12. Kelly Shoppach- 79 (He discovered his stroke and now the Indians have a decision to make this winter.)
13. Gerald Laird- 79 (We've waited for him to be dealt for years, but maybe he finally gets full-time job.)
14. Jason Varitek- 78 (Boston's captain is ornamental; he looks nice but doesn't produce.)
15. Yadier Molina- 78 (A career year has finally come, but I still think he can wind up being the best Molina.)
16. Ramon Hernandez- 77 (He is a solid veteran, but will the Orioles slot him or their elite prospect next spring?)
17. Chris Snyder- 76 (Yet another solid season of useful pop, but will he share at-bats in Arizona forever?)
18. Mike Napoli- 76 (The power is intriguing, but he is not a guy you should trust.)
19. Kurt Suzuki- 76 (He has stamped himself as a solid starter for the A's.)
20. Rod Barajas- 75 (He had a nice comeback year, but he is the type of guy you can find off waivers annually.)
21. Jarrod Saltalamacchia- 75 (Not only did he have a bad year, but Rangers catching prospects are gaining on him.)
22. Chris Coste- 75 (Getting old, but he can still hit the ball.)
23. Dioner Navarro- 75 (He is a poor man's Mauer with a consistent bat but one that lacks real power.)
24. Jason Kendall- 74 (The veteran was a favorite of Ned Yost, but with Yost out of town might Kendall be, too?)
25. Jesus Flores- 74 (The Mets made a real mistake letting him go via the Rule-5 draft. He is part of the Nats' future.)
26. Jeff Clement- 74 (He might have the most offensive potential of anyone on this list, but it is merely "potential." )
27. Brian Schneider- 74 (Decent catcher. The Mets would love to have better.)
28. Taylor Teagarden- 73 (He has been hot down the stretch, but the top prospect was underwhelming in minors.)
29. Matt Wieters- 73 (Elite catcher prospect is one of the few who could have a Soto-like breakthrough.)
30. Miguel Olivo- 73 (Decent catcher, but will share time with John Buck.)
31. John Buck- 72 (Same as Olivo; Decent catcher but will share time.)
32. JR Towels- 72 (For every Geovany Soto, there has to be a JR Towels. He could be this years Chris Ianetta however.)

[sayheykidetn]

variteck should be way lower IMHO. he hit .220

bengie led ALL catchers in rbis should be higher

if we are basing guys off 1 year stats (soto) then v martinez must come down a whole bunch.

but nice stuff so far

***im anxious to see if lee is higher than berkman :popcorn

[Ix Mr CLuTcH xI]

Inge is the everyday 3rd basemen for the Tigers next year, just so you knoe.

[Gamerdrw]

where is brian schenider? he should at least be a 75..i the least...

[chad0034]

First Baseman
1. Albert Pujols- 100 (We will have to drop him down past No. 5 if he misses the first month due to elbow surgery.)
2.Ryan Howard- 96 (If not for Ks and a low average, he would be a candidate for No. 1 overall. Nobody's perfect.)
3.Miguel Cabrera- 94 (He had a great second half and should be much more comfortable in his long-term home.)
4. Mark Texiera- 93 (Big free-agent contract will figure to make him highly sought after on Draft Day.)
5. Prince Fielder- 93 (He was one of the most disappointing early rounders of '08 in the never-injured category, but he still has tons of power, and weight.)
6. Lance Berkman- 93 (He was arguably the best player in Fantasy for most of 2008, but power might be declining.)
7. Justin Morneau 92 (One of the best pure run producers in baseball and he should see an uptick in homers.)
8. Adrian Gonzalez- 89 (If not for a punchless supporting cast and a pitcher's park, his numbers would be a lot better.)
9. Carlos Pena- 88 (Hopefully you weren't counting on him duplicating his '07 numbers; that is bad policy.)
10. Kevin Youkilis- 88 (Boy, that power sure came this year.)
11. Derek Lee- 86 (Disappointing years makes you ask if he was healthy or merely just declining with age?)
12. Aubrey Huff- 86 (This is what we thought he should be years ago, but you can't be sure he can repeat this.)
13. Carlos Delgado- 86 (A renaissance saved his career -- and perhaps the Mets -- but he is still old and an injury risk.)
14. Garrett Atkins- 85 (He has regressed the past two years ... and watch out below if he is dealt away from Coors.)
15. James Loney- 84 (Power remains a question, but it is hard to deny a pure hitter like this on breaking through.)
16. Chris Davis- 84 (Rookie masher can reach 30 homers and 100 RBI -- but also 160 strikeouts?)
17. Nick Swisher- 84 (We thought the move to Chicago's park would make him a 40-homer threat. Maybe Year 2.)
18. Joey Votto- 84 (A great hitter's park gives him a real good shot to reach 30 HR and 100 RBI in Year 2.)
19. Jason Giambi- 83 (Won't be an MVP again, but he is a better run producer than this ranking suggests.)
20. Todd Helton- 83 (His power went years ago and now his back went out; is he the one shuffled out of town?)
21. Carlos Guillen- 83 (Another injury-plagued year and no more SS eligibility should make him a latter-rounder pick.)
22. Paul Konerko- 83 (Streaky slugger just never maintained a tear this season, but next year could be payback time.)
23. Connor Jackson- 83 (For a stretch there, we saw him becoming the 25-homer man he can be. We'll still wait.)
24. Jorge Cantu- 83 (It was a nice rebound year, but if you counted on him before you will be cautious yet again.)
25. Mike Jacobs- 82 (He is your classic free-swinger.)
26. Casey Kotchman- 81 (He is better than Youkilis at a similar age, so could he be the next Youkilis? Maybe at 27 in '10.)
27. Pablo Sandoval- 79 (We don't see him retaining catcher-eligibility, but if this young masher does, look out top 15.)
28. Hank Blalok- 79 (Shoulder injuries can be devastating, but that park and lineup can still lead to a rebound.)
29. Adam LaRoche- 79 (If he could extend his hot streaks, shorten his cold streaks and stay healthy... a lot of if's here.)
30. Bill Butler- 77 (We called him a potential Mark Teixeira-type, but the power really needs to get popping soon.)
31. Casey Blake- 77 (Puts together huge months and then disappears for extend periods.)
32. Kevin Millar- 77 (Veteran is going to be overlooked, but he can still hit.)

Second Baseman
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[derekjeter76]

lol @ how much better Varitek is than Pudge.

[kingblue18]

Russell Martin is no better then the 4th best catcher.

McCann is the clear #1
The real debate is wether Mauer or Soto is the next best, OPS wise its almost a dead tie, though i'd give it to Mauer because hes more experanced.

We all know how 2K ranks players thought, by how many years they have been in the league. How can we forget Mike Lieberthal being a top ten catcher rank wise after a wonderful .234/.280/.260 line in 2007, his 14th year, OUCH!!!

[Ix Mr CLuTcH xI]

Carlos Guillen is going to be Detroits everyday leftfielder also.

[sayheykidetn]

these ratings are fairly accurate. good stuff keep em comin

[chad0034]

Second Baseman
1. Chase Utley- 94 (Pedroia has outplayed him in the second half, but Utley's power is legendary at the position.)
2.Dustin Pedroia- 89 (So much for him having a sophomore swoon. Can D-Ped go .300-20-100-100-20 annually?)
3.Ian Kinsler- 88 (Hernia surgery ended his season early or else we might have seen him go 20-30.)
4. Brian Roberts- 88 (He is a pick here for one of the most underrated players in baseball.)
5. Dan Uggla- 86 (A poor second half gives cause for concern. At times he can look like the best at his position.)
6. Brandon Phillips- 85 (After looking like a 30-30 player in '07, he barely made it to 20-20; still rare at the position.)
7. Robinson Cano- 84 (This season has been a disaster, but if he is not traded, you should expect a rebound.)
8. Alexi Ramirez- 82 (One of the year's breakthrough players could be higher on this list, but is he a sure thing?)
9. Mark DeRosa- 82 (He is top five at the position in the power categories, so he is a bit underrated at this rating.)
10. Orlando Hudson- 81 (If not for another season-ending injury, he could have been one of the best. Injury risk remains.)
11. Kelly Johnson- 81 (He is much better than he has shown this season; the Braves need to let him go vs. LHP.)
12. Jose Lopez- 81 (You might not trust his numbers, but you have to figure this overlooked commodity will only get better.)
13. Rickie Weeks- 80 (Annual disappointment has to be ranked this low because he has turned so many off on him.)
14. Freddy Sanchez- 79 (Scorching hot second half helped him make a market correction; he was cooler with versatility.)
15. Placido Polanco- 79 (Doesn't have much power or steals potential but he can be as steady as they come.)
16. Howie Kendrick- 78 (If you could only put Weeks and Kendrick together to make one good one ... a lot of upside still.)
17. Asdrubal Cabrera- 78 (Sophomore bust will never be an all star player, but he should prove more steady in '09.)
18. Akinori Iwumara- 78 (Import was supposed to have a lot more power, but his bat is serviceable at this thin position.)
19. Alexi Casilla- 78 (Somehow, the slap-hitting base-stealer popped some homers but didn't steal enough for us.)
20. Aaron Hill- 78 (Post-concussion syndrome has cost some their career, but Hill should be able to rebound.)
21. Kazuo Matsui- 77 (If he ever put a full season together ... oh, who am I kidding? Expect a half-season player.)
22. Mark Ellis- 77 (Shoulder surgery tends to be troublesome for sluggers; it could completely sap Ellis' rating.)
23. Luis Castillo- 76 (The steals rebounded some, but the Mets are not playing him and might find him a new home.)
24. Jeff Kent- 76 (We are not sure the vet will play next season, but he is still a decent player.)
25. Mike Aviles- 75 (This 27-year-old surprise can really hit and might've earned himself the everyday shortstop's job.)
26. Brendan Harris- 75 (I am not convinced he will be an everyday player long term, but there is more pop in his bat.)
27. Clint Barmes- 75 (It was a nice renaissance year for the one-time NL ROY candidate who fell down the stairs.)
28. Mike Fontenot- 74 (Numbers warrant a regular job, but he has to share at-bats with a top-10 guy on this list.)
29. Felipe Lopez- 74 (Speed and power are still there and showed better with the Cards, but where does he play?)
30. Mark Grudzielanek- 73 (His bat isn't finished but his age suggests he could be as an everyday player.)
31. Chris Getz- 72 (Sum of the whole is greater than the value of the parts; Getz can start if Ramirez moves to SS.)
32. Ronnie Belliard- 72 (He could always hit, but his suspect glove will keep him from being an everyday player again.)

Third Baseman
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[chad0034]

Third Baseman
1. Alex Rodriguez- 100 (Not sure if he should get a 100 after last season, but the consistency is what will get him here.)
2.David Wright- 96 (Steady year start to finish this time gives him a great case to be No. 1 here in '09.)
3.Chipper Jones- 90 (No third baseman was as productive with their at-bats, but you just cannot rely on him.)
4. Aramis Ramirez- 89 (Hes a great guy for steadiness and lack of injury risk.)
5. Kevin Youkilis- 88 (Lowell's injury gives Youkilis his 3B position back, and he returns as an elite one.)
6. Evan Longoria- 87 (AL ROY had great numbers despite a two-week late start and a month on DL.)
7. Aubrey Huff- 86 (Renaissance had him produce at a top-five level, but he needs to do it back-to-back.)
8. Garrett Atkins- 85 (He has slipped the past few years -- and look out below if he leaves Coors Field.)
9. Ryan Zimmerman- 85 (Shoulder woes are devastating on power numbers but he did some some late life.)
10. Mike Lowell- 85 (If you could guarantee a full season he has to be in the top 8. You certainly cannot.)
11. Troy Glaus- 84 (He had a healthy and productive first season in the NL, but you cannot ignore the risk.)
12. Chris Davis- 84 (Rookie masher can reach 30 homers and 100 RBI -- but also 160 strikeouts?)
13. Jorge Cantu- 83 (If he hadn't run so hot and cold in past years, I could rank him a lot higher here.)
14. Carlos Guillen- 83 (Another injury-risk sleeper. Might he have played more if the team was in the race?)
15. Chone Figgins- 83 (He really needs complete health to be where his once lofty standards had him before.)
16. Adrian Beltre- 82 (It is apparent he will never be his pre-contract self, but he is good for 25 HRs a year.)
17. Mark Reynolds- 82 (If baseball was just about homers and run production, this masher would be higher.)
18. Edwin Encarnacion- 81 (He will never hit .300, but in that ballpark he could break through for 30-100 at age 26.)
19. Alex Gordon- 79 (He was supposed to be Braun and Longoria before them. Will he ever be?)
20. Hank Blalok- 79 (Another great September finish, but we have been tricked by this from him before.)
21. Ty Wiggington- 79 (Power and versatility are there, but so is the injury risk and the questions about at-bats.)
22. Kevin Kouzmanoff- 78 (He won't ever be elite, or consistent in-season, but he can do this year to year now.)
23. Melvin Mora- 78 (Another veteran renaissance but there are no guarantees at his age next year.)
24. Ian Stewart- 78 (Breakthrough could lead to a deal of Atkins or Helton, so move Stewart up if he starts.)
25. Bill Hall- 78 (Back at third base, but his hot streak never came and future is less certain.)
26. Casey Blake- 77 (One of the most underrated, albeit streaky, bats in baseball -- where will he call home?)
27. Pedro Feliz- 77 (Power and ballpark work in his favor, but he needs to earn his at-bats due low OBP.)
28. Jed Lowrie- 77 (The versatility is nice, but he should be starting at shortstop in all '09 Fantasy lineups.)
29. Brandon Wood- 76 (His bat might not look like much, but one of these years he is going to put it together.)
30. Joe Crede- 76 (Back injuries have claimed players before, so you cannot be sure what you will get.)
31. Scott Rolen- 76 (Shoulder has never been the same and has sapped his power and made him day-to-day.)
32. Andy LaRoche- 75 (Continued struggles are really surprising, considering his talent, so look out above.)

Shortstop
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[soldaderyan]

wow, very nice list chad

[sayheykidetn]

ratings look good.

derosa is freaking underrated and is so valuable to the cubs i cant stand him.

i :lol: @ kaz matsui's description

[chad0034]

edit: Varitek to 78, Pudge to 79, Hernandez to 77.

[bigfnjoe96]

No matter how good you are NO PLAYER should be rated 100. The highest rating for a player should be between a 90-96. Nothing against the work your doing Chad, I greatly appreciate it. Just my personal opinion

[chad0034]

yea some people think like that. I understand why. The way i do it is, the best player in the game Today gets 100, and so on. If i did it for all of baseball pastime, Pujols would only get about a 90 or so. Mays, Aaron, etc. would get a 100 in their prime. Thanks though for the comment.

[chad0034]

Short Stops
1. Hanley Ramirez- 96 (Shoulder questions are cause for concern but 30-30 shortstops are a real rare breed.)
2.Jose Reyes- 93 (Power might never become elite, but he is as steady as they come at the position.)
3.Jimmy Rollins- 90 (It must be nice having a 45-plus steal season qualify as an "off year," but he was an MVP.)
4. Derek Jeter- 86 (Disappointing year should finally drop his rating down to a reasonable level.)
5. Michael Young- 86 (He played injured and still will reach 150 games again.)
6. Rafael Furcal- 86 (He looked like a possible MVP before his bad back cost him his season. He will remain a risk.)
7. Troy Tulowitzki- 85 (Improvement in the second half post-injury shows he wasn't a fluke as a rookie.)
8. Stephan Drew- 85 (He is just the third shortstop in history to hit 40 doubles, 10 triples and 20 homers.)
9. Miguel Tejada- 84 (I figured the power would rebound in Houston, but it was disappointing after quick start.)
10. JJ Hardy- 84 (He might be reaching his ceiling in the eyes of many, but if he can extend those hot streaks.)
11. Orlando Cabrera- 83 (He's one of those who annually outperforms his position, but age is a factor now.)
12. Yunel Escobar- 82 (A favorite sleeper in 2008 wound up being a relative dud, but he will improve.)
13. Jhonny Peralta- 82 (One of the few Indians to have a plus season by his standards. He earned his 2009 job.)
14. Edgar Renteria- 80 (Unlike Cabrera, Renteria seems to underproduce his value, but he can rebound still.)
15. Julio Lugo- 79 (Boston career is over, but he should be able to find a full-time job somewhere this winter.)
16. Ryan Theriot- 79 (A poor second half was an overdue market correction, but he does the little things well.)
17. Mike Aviles- 79 (This 27-year-old breakout can really hit, but you have to be cautious without a track record.)
18. Khalil Greene- 78 (He went from being an annual 30-homer shortstop to being an annual question mark. Flaky.)
19. Cristian Guzman- 78 (Rebound year was nice, but a lack of true pop or steals potential weighs him down still.)
20. Jed Lowrie- 77 (Rookie proved to be an instant run producer, which portends big things for future.)
21. Nomar Garciaparra- 76 (Injuries will remain a weight on his value the rest of his career, but he can be decent in spurts.)
22. Jason Bartlett- 76 (He was voted the playoff-bound Rays MVP this season, but it wasn't what he did at the plate.)
23. Macier Izturis- 75 (I would rise him up this list more than a few spots if he had ever started a full season.)
24. Jack Wilson- 75 (Known for his glove, but can hit at times.)
25. David Eckstein- 75 (He might not even be able to play everyday, or leadoff.)
26. Yuniesky Betancourt- 75 (Known for his glove, but that is what makes him valuable, full-time slap-hitting at-bats.)
27. Jeff Keppinger- 74 (I'm not sure he has an everyday job next year. That is a nice hitter's park, though.)
28. Nick Punto- 73 (Slap-hitting base-stealer won't ever play full-time, but his versatility comes in handy.)
29. Emmanuel Burris- 73 (Another slap-hitting base-stealer that would move up list if he was given a full-time job.)
30. Clint Barmes- 73 (He won't be the player he was before he fell down the stairs, but he proved to be solid again.)
31. Bobby Crosby- 72 (I have just about given up on him ever reaching his potential, but at least he was healthy.)
32. Brendan Harris- 72 (He has more pop in his bat than he showed this year, but Twins appear committed to him.)

Outfielders
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[sappy3]

I like those ranking. But i think Michael Young should be higher than Jeter. He's one of the best hitting shortstop in the league, and can play some defense. And statistically Jeter is the worst fielding shortstop in the league.

[chad0034]

Outfielders
1. Matt Holliday- 96 (A DL stint hurt his numbers, but he will be motivated for a huge contract next year.)
2.Manny Ramirez- 94 (Great numbers with the Dodgers might have been contract driven, so be cautious here.)
3.Grady Sizemore- 93 (You would be justified picking him atop this position as a sleeper to go 40-40.)
4. Ryan Braun- 92 (Great Young Hitter, and his defense was good in LF last season.)
5. Alfonso Soriano- 91 (Another disappointing year but he could go off any given year with a long hot streak.)
6. Carlos Lee- 90 (Steady, underrated slugger remains at at least a 90.)
7. Carlos Beltran- 90 (Another solid year. Hes about as consistent as it gets.)
8. Josh Hamilton- 90 (He, too, has a pretty good case for the No. 1 spot. We could see .300-40-120-100-10.)
9. Ichiro Suzuki- 90 (Steals were high early in the season, but as his age declines will he continue to steal bases?)
10. Vladimer Guerrero- 90 (Numbers no longer look elite as he ages, but he could rebound if they ever protect him.)
11. Jason Bay- 89 (It should be real tantalizing to project a huge first full season in Fenway Park.)
12. Adam Dunn- 89 (Free agent has 40-homer, 180-strikeout potential annually. If he could just hit .260...)
13. BJ Upton- 89 (It was an awful year for him, but the speed-and-power potential keeps him interesting.)
14. Carlos Quentin- 89 (Season-ending injury hurts, but the potential to go .300-40-120-100 annually is there.)
15. Carl Crawford- 89 (Huge 27-year-old disappointment had his first injury-plagued year; he is a sleeper here.)
16. Ryan Ludwick- 88 (Huge breakout year gets him up to an 88. Will he be able to continue though?)
17. Curtis Granderson- 88 (Rebound year was nice, but a lack of true pop or steals potential weighs him down still.)
18. Torii Hunter- 88 (He might not even be able to play everyday, or leadoff.)
19. Maglio Ordonez- 88 (Tigers lineup was supposed to have even a bigger year than it did, so watch for Maggs.)
20. Pat Burrel- 87 (I'm not sure he has an everyday job next year. That is a nice hitter's park, though.)
21. Alex Rios- 87 (Another 27-year-old Fantasy bust, what the ...? Rios is a lot more powerful than this.)
22. Nate McLouth- 87 (This year's top sleeper played like a top five, but how much better can he be.)
23. Jermaine Dye- 87 (His age makes him a risk, but if he comes back to White Sox, 30 homers is reachable.)
24. Vernon Wells- 87 (Second-half health and improvement gives hope he could be an elite outfielder again.)
25. Nick Markakis- 87 (Aubrey Huff stole his thunder this year, but there are few outfielders with more upside.)
26. Matt Kemp- 86 (Steals were real surprising, especially when power was supposed to be his strong suit.)
27. Rick Ankiel- 86 (Not a bad almost-full season as an outfielder, but he needs to prove healthy, consistent.)
28. Bobby Abreu- 86 (Streaking down the stretch to earn a decent contract, but his elite days are over now.)
29. Milton Bradley- 85 (If you don't think the Rangers will be in the race, don't bother with Mr. Operation Shutdown.)
30. Hunter Pence- 85 (Sophomore season was unspectacular, but he showed improvement in the second half.)
31. Raul Ibanez- 85 (He has proven to be a second-half player the last few years, so watch that again in '09.)
32. Eric Byrnes- 84 (He was McLouth a few years ago, so if his hammys are healthy in spring, look out above.)
33. Shane Victornio- 84 (He has more pop in his bat than he showed this year, but Twins appear committed to him.)
34. Chris Young- 84 (Free-swinger had bad second year, lending credence to critics of poor contract prospects.)
35.Corey Hart- 84 (It must be nice having a 45-plus steal season qualify as an "off year," but he was an MVP.)
36. Johnny Damon- 84 (Disappointing year should finally drop his rating down to a reasonable level.)
37. Aaron Rowand- 84 (Not the greatest ballpark for him, but hes still a pretty good player.)
38. Andre Ethier- 84 (Check out his splits once he started hitting in front of Manny. Wow! He's breaking through.)
39. Jacoby Ellsbury- 84 (Came up a little short in ROY race, but he clearly is a nice Damon redux long term.)
40. JD Drew- 84 (Improvement in the second half post-injury shows he wsn't a fluke as a rookie.)
42. Ken Griffey- 84 (Hall of Famer has some legendary homer goals to reach, so he will find a home to do it in.)
43. Brad Hawpe- 83 (He has hit better against left-handers which could mean a big season for him next year.)
44. Hideki Matsui- 83 (Injury woes drop his stock considerably, especially if he cannot play outfield full time.)
45. Brian Giles- 83 (If he can get out of purgatory in San Diego, he might have a chance to regain lost homers.)
46. Carlos Gomez- 83 (First full season started great and is finishing well, but it was real ugly in between.)
47. Nick Swisher- 83 (Potential is a nice thing to have, but you actually have to show it sometime you know.)
48. Jay Bruce- 83 (Streaky rookie is a bit overrated here, but hype will have him selected too high.)
49. Conor Jackson- 83 (Thats right..he can techniqually qualify as an OF this year.)
50. Jose Guillen- 83 (This was a quality rookie season and should have earned him a starting job for next spring.)
51. Jeff Francoeur- 82 (What a disastrous falloff from his previous lofty status. The good news is he is still young.)
52. Delmon Young- 82 (A poor second half was an overdue market correction, but he does the little things well.)
53. Randy Winn- 82 (He went from being an annual 30-homer shortstop to being an annual question mark. Flaky.
54. David Murphy- 82 (This was a quality rookie season and should have earned him a starting job for next spring.)
55. Jeremy Hermida- 82 (Perennial breakout candidate is an annual disappointment, but don't give up hope yet.)
56. Josh Willingham- 82 (Back issues have claimed career, so hopefully this power bat can respond next year.)
57. Mike Cameron- 82 (Despite missing first month to suspension he posted some decent totals on the cheap.)
58. Justin Upton- 81 (Despite missing first month to suspension he posted some decent totals on the cheap.)
59. Garrett Anderson- 81 (Veteran can still drive in runs, but there will be a year he just complete tails off.)
60. Luke Scott- 81 (Serves better as a platoon outfielder, but if you are going to be a part-timer, be a lefty.)
61. Mark Teahen- 81 (Line-drive stroke provides erractic homer totals and he has never quite developed well enough.)
62. Michael Cuddyer- 81 (Injury-plagued year puts dent in his career, but he still could go .280-20-90-90 next year.)
63. Jayson Werth- 80 (Part-time slugger has earned full-time status and could be due for a huge first full season.)
64. Kosuke F.uk.udome- 80 (Import started great and finished OK, but he was lost most of the summer months.)
65. Lastings Milledge- 79 (Once an elite prospect, he finally showed his potential in the second half. He'll get better.)
66. Xavier Nady- 79 (Did an alright job in New York, but will he play everyday?)
67. Cameron Maybin- 79 (He didn't rise as quickly as we expected, but he definitely made a great late impression.)
68. Fred Lewis- 79 (Hes developed into a nice major leaguer, and is a huge sleeper for me.)
69. Coco Crisp- 79 (He should play a little better in Kansas City.)
70. David DeJesus- 79 (Decent bat. Don't see him putting up any great numbers but you never know.)

Outfielders 71-90
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[chad0034]

please comment on the OF... it took me a long time and i'd like some feedback.

[TwolvesAJ]

Your ratings our good but on the Catchers list it is Jeff Clement not Matt

[chad0034]

i put matt ? my bad.. i mustve been thinking horrible moments as a cub fan

[TwolvesAJ]

yeah I know sometimes it is easy to get them mixed up

[chad0034]

yea true man.

[Complex Realmz]

Dude you are sleeping big time on Mike Aviles.. He is ranked top 5 SS in batting, he had the highest average (325) among shortstops and is great defensively... He was on the all rookie team and has proven he is a great hitter in every level... I know he doesnt have a long Majors track record yet, but cmon now...

And I maybe I missed it but I didnt see David Dejesus in your OF list, smh.. again ranked top 5 in batting stats (307 AVG, 366 OBP, 452 SLG)

AND...... I think you got Coco Crisp way underrated, he is a consistent hitter, and top 5 defensive CF..

Stop hatin on the royals son.....

[luke_51034]

ratings are good....ichiro isn't a shortstop though, his description is the same as Arizona's Stephen Drew, as well as Ryan Ludwicks is the same as Ryan Theriot's. I didn't really notice if any other's were the same...ratings are good though, my input is just a continuity correction :)

[bigfnjoe96]

Chad J-RO should be rated higher than Reyes. J-RO is an MVP & now is a World Series Winner while Reyes has won nothing & in Sept when the Mets have needed Reyes to step his game-up he's has stunk-up the joint.

[soldaderyan]

yeah, awesome OF list, but the ichiro information is incorrect, good job chad :)

[chad0034]

i must not've done sentences for those guys.. ill go do them now. Thanks for the input guys. And for the Royals guy, Mike Aviles is a 77. Thats a good rating for him. You can't tell me he should be over an 80 already in his career? DeJesus should be a 79 to me, and Crisp shouldn't be over an 80 imo.

[BIGZFOOT]

i must not've done sentences for those guys.. ill go do them now. Thanks for the input guys. And for the Royals guy, Mike Aviles is a 77. Thats a good rating for him. You can't tell me he should be over an 80 already in his career? DeJesus should be a 79 to me, and Crisp shouldn't be over an 80 imo.

They made Pedroia an 84 after his first season. What's wrong with Aviles?

[chad0034]

because hes not Pedroia yet. Plain and simple.

[chad0034]

ill probly finish the OF today. Like i said, feel free to comment on anything guys.

[sayheykidetn]

20. Mike Aviles- 77 (This 27-year-old breakout can really hit, but you have to be cautious without a track record.)

but you gave geovanny soto an 87 without a track record. i know he won rookie of the year and stuff but dont tell me he didnt benifit from being in a stacked lineup. if aviles was on the cubs his numbers would be 3 times better.

i love the double standard.

[Complex Realmz]

^ thank you

[chad0034]

you can't tell me Mike Aviles is up at Geovanys skill level? Aviles at max i'd give a 79, and Soto, i'd give a 86-87.

[chad0034]

edit: Aviles up to 79, Teahen up to 81, Soo-Choo down do 77, Betancourt down to 75

[kingblue18]

20. Mike Aviles- 77 (This 27-year-old breakout can really hit, but you have to be cautious without a track record.)

but you gave geovanny soto an 87 without a track record. i know he won rookie of the year and stuff but dont tell me he didnt benifit from being in a stacked lineup. if aviles was on the cubs his numbers would be 3 times better.

i love the double standard.
Aviles would have hit .975 with 30 home runs and 153 RBI's if he was on the Cubs? Damn, we need to trade for him RIGHT NOW!!!

The fact of the matter is Aviles isnt all the great, and benifited from an inflated batting average. With only a 30 point difference between his BA and OBP is going to be a problem when he hits .280 next year. Not to mention the fact that he was a 27 year old rookie playing for a team that wasnt playing for anything.

He wasn't the rookie of the year and would be lucky to pull a 77 rating next year.

[sayheykidetn]

what was your team playing for? all i remember is

http://weblog.infoworld.com/zeroday/archives/images/choking-old.jpg

[derekjeter76]

F.uk.u.dome is total bias towards Cubs. He is a 79 TOPS.

He is 31 and hit .257 with 10 HR and a .379 SLG. His OBP was good compared to his average (.359), but too bad the walks stat doesn't affect OVR at all. He is not that fast, does not hit for a high average, has very little power, and is an average fielder. He is the most basic "C" grade player I know.

He did start off good like you said (he made it t the all star game... even though he didn't deserve it), but he did not finish OK. He finished very bad.

[kingblue18]

F.uk.u.dome is total bias towards Cubs. He is a 79 TOPS.

He is 31 and hit .257 with 10 HR and a .379 SLG. His OBP was good compared to his average (.359), but too bad the walks stat doesn't affect OVR at all. He is not that fast, does not hit for a high average, has very little power, and is an average fielder. He is the most basic "C" grade player I know.

He did start off good like you said (he made it t the all star game... even though he didn't deserve it), but he did not finish OK. He finished very bad.

Thats pretty much all true, except for his defense, which is much better then league average. The greater concern here is why doesnt the game place more of an emphasis on On-Base and OPS. I mean how sad is it when a game thats suppose to be sim baseball makes it so difficult to draw a walk there is an achievement on the 360 for it???

[derekjeter76]

I usually draw 2-4 walks a game when the CPU throw strikes ahead/behind/overall is at 0.

This was the 1st baseball game where I have actually drawn walks.

[chad0034]

just look at the other 82 guys.. Francoeur.. i feel hes about the same as him right now. Both are great defensively, but both had trouble hitting last season.

[chad0034]

Starting Pitchers
1. Johan Santana- 97
2. CC Sabathia- 97
3. Jake Peavy- 96
4. Brandon Webb- 96
5. Roy Halladay- 95
6. Time Lincecum- 94
7. Cole Hamels- 92
8. Carlos Zambrano- 91
9. Scott Kazmir- 91
10. Cliff Lee- 91
11. Dan Haren- 90
12. Roy Oswalt- 90
13. Daisuke Matsuzaka- 90
14. AJ Burnett- 89
15. Josh Beckett- 89
16. Chien Ming-Wang- 88
17. Rich Harden- 88
18. Ben Sheets- 88
19. Jon Lester- 87
20. Ryan Dempster- 87
21. Ervin Santana- 87
22. James Shields- 86
23. Chad Billingsly- 86
24. Justin Verlander- 86
25. Felix Hernandez- 86
26. Bret Myers- 86
27. Brad Penny- 86
28. Edinson Volquez- 86
29. Francisco Liriano- 86
30. Adam Wainwright- 85
31. Aaron Harang- 85
32. Erik Bedard- 85
33. Matt Cain- 85
34. Chris Carpenter- 85
35. Jerad Weaver- 85
36. Ted Lilly- 84
37. Joba Chamberlain- 84
38. Derek Lowe- 84
39. Fausto Carmona- 84
40. Matt Garza- 84
41. Mark Buehrle- 84
42. Andy Pettite- 84
43. Chris Young- 84
44. David Price- 84
45. Yovani Gallardo- 84
46. John Maine- 84
47. Jeff Francis- 84
48. Kyle Lohse- 84
49. Mike Pelfry- 83
50. Zach Grienke-83
51. Ricky Nalasco- 83
52. Josh Johnson- 83
53. John Danks- 83
54. Aaron Cook- 83
55. Ubaldo Jimenez- 83
56. Jair Jurrens- 83
57. Oliver Perez- 83
58. Joe Saunders- 83
59. Randy Johnson- 82
60. Johnny Cueto- 82
61. Justin Duchscherer- 82
62. Jon Garland- 81
63. Phil Hughes- 81
64. Gil Meche- 81
65. Todd Wellemeyer- 80
66. Bronson Arroyo- 80
67. Barry Zito- 80
68. Pedro Martinez- 79

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[Complex Realmz]

wow.......

[Complex Realmz]

ever heard of Zack Greinke?

I heard he is pretty decent........

[Complex Realmz]

let me guess 79 right

[sappy3]

Ever heard of one post?

I heard its pretty normal.

[chad0034]

haha thanks Sap.. my bad.. i skipped over him in the rankings.. im pretty sure if you had to rank 100s of players you'd miss a couple too..hes an 83 now.

[zimzum1202]

How do you rate David Price above Mike Pelfrey? Pelfrey pitched close to 200 innings and poster a 3.76 ERA. Has sick stuff and is like 23 or 24 I think. Price pitched 14 innings and you give him an 84? come on.

[chad0034]

potential my friend..potential.. Pelfry will not be as good as Price IMO this season. Price is going to be one of the top pitchers for the next 10 years. Pelfry did have a nice comeback year however. They're only a 1 point difference, so its nothing too big.

[zimzum1202]

potential my friend..potential.. Pelfry will not be as good as Price IMO this season. Price is going to be one of the top pitchers for the next 10 years. Pelfry did have a nice comeback year however. They're only a 1 point difference, so its nothing too big.

I am going to have to disagree somewhat on that. Price started 1 game. Just one. Yeah he can pump it up to 97mph+ with a nice little slider but that isn't that hard to find. IMO you can't base a guy on 14IP. I would rate him about 78 with maximum potential. But I totally agree with the rating you gave Pelf.

[sayheykidetn]

also...

f.u.k.u.d.o.m.e got an 82 but mike aviles got a 79 ??? :lol: :lol: you serious? im guessing you based that on potential because kosuke got benched in the playoffs for sucking. nothing says 82 like getting benched. and kosuke is older than aviles.

[sayheykidetn]

and f.u.k.u.d.o.m.e made the allstar team because the entire nation of japan voted for him because hes japanese not because hes good

[Chad0034]

i really don't get why you guys all think mike aviles is like the next Hanley Ramirez... he shouldn't be over a 79 IMO, so im not going to make him over a 79. F.uk.udome is honestly around an 80 IMO, so ill make him that way.

[chad0034]

also David Prices slider is supposedly one of the best in the game. Im thinking about lowering Kosukes about 1 or 2 points. down to an 80.

[sayheykidetn]

read my post retard. did i say anywhere in the post that said aviles would be the next hanley? im stating facts that aviles had a better year and less at bats yet you rated your cubbie boy toy higher.

[Ninjapenguin777]

These aren't bad but there are some very questionable ones

Starting Pitchers
16. Chien Ming-Wang- 88 Stats are inflated because of the Yankees offense
36. Ted Lilly- 84 Really? An 84. Biased rating
47. Jeff Francis- 84 Wasnt even that good in his good year
62. Jon Garland- 81 Innings eater nothing more
63. Phil Hughes- 81 Based off of what? Time spent on DL

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Short Stops
And Julio Lugo should not be rated above anyone...period

22. Jason Bartlett- 76 (He was voted the playoff-bound Rays MVP this season, but it wasn't what he did at the plate.) 20 steals. .286 Avg. 25 Doubles. 3 triples. Good defense. How is Renteria above him?
Outfielders
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Outfielders
7. Carlos Beltran- 90 (Another solid year. Hes about as consistent as it gets.) Overrated.
12. Adam Dunn- 89 (Free agent has 40-homer, 180-strikeout potential annually. If he could just hit .260...) The rating is fine, but remember his OBP is enormous
13. BJ Upton- 89 (It was an awful year for him, but the speed-and-power potential keeps him interesting.) Um, Torn shoulder labrum. Just because he didn't hit 20 hr's doesnt mean it was a dissapointment. He had 40 + steals. I think the Playoffs showed his power
32. Eric Byrnes- 84 (He was McLouth a few years ago, so if his hammys are healthy in spring, look out above.). Overrated. One good year, 2007, the rest have been meh at best
33. Shane Victornio- 84 (He has more pop in his bat than he showed this year, but Twins appear committed to him.) Huh? He plays for the phillies and he is a stud
42. Ken Griffey- 84 (Hall of Famer has some legendary homer goals to reach, so he will find a home to do it in.). Do I even have to comment?
47. Nick Swisher- 83 (Potential is a nice thing to have, but you actually have to show it sometime you know.) Career .244 hitter. Poor Adum Dunn
49. Conor Jackson- 83 (Thats right..he can techniqually qualify as an OF this year.) Starting LF. Should be slightly higher
50. Jose Guillen- 83 (This was a quality rookie season and should have earned him a starting job for next spring.) What? He been in the league for a while now. Hes played for the Rays, Royals, Mariners etc.....
53. Randy Winn- 82 (He went from being an annual 30-homer shortstop to being an annual question mark. Flaky. Huh?
58. Justin Upton- 81 (Despite missing first month to suspension he posted some decent totals on
the cheap.) What? He never missed a month. Where are you getting that?
63. Jayson Werth- 80 (Part-time slugger has earned full-time status and could be due for a huge first full season.) 20+ hr's and playoffs say higher
64. Kosuke F.uk.udome- 80 (Import started great and finished OK, but he was lost most of the summer months.) Totaly biased. The guy sucks for the amount you paid. Get over it
69. Coco Crisp- 79 (He should play a little better in Kansas City.) Than in a stacked Bs line up...?


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Here are the ratings I'll be using for MLB 2K9. I always adjust the players accordingly right when the game comes out. It takes a while, but I love doing it. Ill go by position and name the top 25 or so players of that position, and what I feel they should be rated. Feel free to comment on them, or tell me someone I've missed.

Catcher
3. Joe Mauer- 89 (A very consistent guy, but we might grow old waiting for the true power to come.) Best catcher in the game
14. Jason Varitek- 78 (Boston's captain is ornamental; he looks nice but doesn't produce.) Yea so why is he so high?
21. Jarrod Saltalamacchia- 75 (Not only did he have a bad year, but Rangers catching prospects are gaining on him.) So why is he above Navarro?



First Baseman
17. Nick Swisher- 84 (We thought the move to Chicago's park would make him a 40-homer threat. Maybe Year 2.) Plays for NY. See above
23. Connor Jackson- 83 (For a stretch there, we saw him becoming the 25-homer man he can be. We'll still wait.) 17-22 should not be in front of him

Second Baseman
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Second Baseman
1. Chase Utley- 94 (Pedroia has outplayed him in the second half, but Utley's power is legendary at the position.) Hip surgery and a very slow second half
2.Dustin Pedroia- 89 (So much for him having a sophomore swoon. Can D-Ped go .300-20-100-100-20 annually?) What? I'm a Rays fan and I'll admit he is one of the best in the game. Rate him as such(94)

Third Baseman
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[chad0034]

sayhey if you're just going to put arrogant responses on this thread, than i'd love to see you take some hours and put together your ratings. I'll be sure to spam it up, with pointless posts. Retard?

And Ninjapenguin thanks for the responses.. i see where you're coming from on some of those. Biased? Maybe a little for some of my cubbies. But I watched them all year, and I can tell you Kosuke isn't that bad. His defense is WELL above the average MLB Player. Especially playing in one, if not THE hardest RF in all of baseball in Wrigley Field. His hitting will need drastic improvement. But why not an 80? That seems fair to me. Im also guessing you're a Rays fan? Because a lot of the players you wanted me to up were Tampa Bay players. And as for Ted Lilly, should be at least mid-80s imo. He went 17-9 last season, for what its worth. ERA was a small problem mid-way through season, but hes a pretty good starter.

And on some of those descriptions (Jose Guillen, Randy Winn, Justin Upton) I forgot to put theirs in. They were still from the SS list.

Feel free to comment as usual. Just please, don't be completely arrogant about what you're saying. If i did something wrong in your opinion just calmly tell me what you think. Just think before you type, please.

[kingblue18]

Everyone is going to have different opinions on who should be rated what and who is better then who. Lets not insult someone for having an opinion and just trying to pass the time until the game comes out. Frankly though, its not like 2k does that much better of a job with the ratings (MIKE LIEBERTHAL was a top 10 catcher in the initial ratings last year, its true)

[sayheykidetn]

its not an arrogant response to say f.u.k.u.d.o.m.e is totally biased and aviles is better than him yet you choose to ignore that because you suck off your cubbies

[sayheykidetn]

Biased? Maybe a little for some of my cubbies. But I watched them all year, and I can tell you Kosuke isn't that bad. His defense is WELL above the average MLB Player. Especially playing in one, if not THE hardest RF in all of baseball in Wrigley Field. His hitting will need drastic improvement. But why not an 80?


yea a .980 fielding percentage for an outfielder is awesome.

brandon backe just came off TJ surgery so i know thats why he sucked this year and had an era over 6, but he is a good teammate and he hit some homers at the plate so ill give him an 80 too.

[derekjeter76]

Ninjapenguin I agree with most everything you say except Pedroia being a 94. That is ridiculous.... He would have to be 100's in everything except for power for him to be rated that high. He will probably be rated like an 88 because he will have:

- high contact
- below average power
- average speed
- above average fielding (ya he won a GG, don't flame me, but I don't think 2K will rate him 90's in any fielding stat.)

[chad0034]

Like i said, Wrigley Fields RF is the hardest in baseball.

[derekjeter76]

Like i said, Wrigley Fields RF is the hardest in baseball.
oh please.... :rolleyes:

[BIGZFOOT]

Ninjapenguin I agree with most everything you say except Pedroia being a 94. That is ridiculous.... He would have to be 100's in everything except for power for him to be rated that high. He will probably be rated like an 88 because he will have:

- high contact
- below average power
- average speed
- above average fielding (ya he won a GG, don't flame me, but I don't think 2K will rate him 90's in any fielding stat.)

Well, Pedroia has more power than Jeter..

[Ninjapenguin777]

Well pedroia did have 20 hr, 20 steals, 40 doubles(?) .300 + BA and a great glove. Look I hate the Red Soxs more than anyone (I'm a rays fan) but he's a damn good player.


Why did they change the login in things? I can't sign in with my profile that I signed up with back in 05

Its all an opinion. I wouldn't have the patients to do all those so I totaly respect what you did

[chad0034]

same here ninja penguin.. make another one.. i kept messing around and i finally got this one to work. Keep trying though if you really want it.
You have to link the accounts together.

[derekjeter76]

Well pedroia did have 20 hr, 20 steals, 40 doubles(?) .300 + BA and a great glove. Look I hate the Red Soxs more than anyone (I'm a rays fan) but he's a damn good player.

He had 17 HRs and 54 doubles and pretty much every one of his stats were career highs. If 2K did ratings based off only last year then maybe he will be a 90, but they don't. They do it on 3 year averages and his previous 2 years are nothing amazing.

In 2006 he had 89 at bats... and they weren't good....

In 2007 he had 8 HRs and 7 SB.

Like I said, he will have
- high contact
- below average power
- average speed
- above average fielding

[BigBlue1112]

The Red Sox rotation is screwed up.

You have Daisuke as 90, Beckett as 89, Lester as 87.
Here's how I see it

Beckett 92 - had off year last year, as he could never get into a rhythm due to small injuries. Still has 96-98 Fastball with movement, Baseball America's top rated curveball, and a darting change.

Lester -89 - Had great breakout year in 08. Not a fluke, has great stuff. 94-97 fastball, great cutter, a hard breaking curve, and a late breaking slider. He's a rock on the mound, never flustered. The only reason he's not ahead of Beckett is because only has one good year under his belt--but much more to come.

Daisuke - 88 - Not the pitcher that his stats dictate. He is a nibbler who frustrates Sox fans with high pitch counts that knock him out of the game after 5. The only reason his stats were so good was because of his ability to get out of jams and good run support



Pedroia and Youk are underrated,

Pedroia - 93 - MVP must be rated higher than 90. .320 hitter, adequate power, great glove, and clutch.

Youk - 91 - Second in MVP voting, .310 hitter, 30 HR, 120 RBI and best glove in MLB. Just as good as Morneau.

[derekjeter76]

Youk's glove is overrated. He isn't that great at saving/making plays, but he doesn't create his own errors so he has a high fielding %.

And mark my words, Pedroia does not deserve and will not be over 90. And he only won MVP because Quentin missed so much time. Just because you win the MVP doesn't mean you will repeat last year. What is this was Pedroia's best year of his career? Too many sports fans think they know so much and they just go on a year to year basis. And during the season they pretty much go on a week to week basis...

[BigBlue1112]

It would be crazy to rate Pedroia based on his last 3 years, and not go by a year to year. In 06 he was a Sept. callup to get a cup of coffee in the majors. In 07 he hit .317 and played GG caliber defense and came home with the ROY (and a WS ring I will add). In 08 he hit .326, 54 doubles, 83 RBI's ans 20 steals en route to an MVP award, GG, and Silver Slugger.

If I were to rate Pedroia not year to year, I would have to include his 06 short season, and bring his great 08 down by a slightly less strong 07. He is clearly on the upswing of his career at 24, and should be rewarded for what he definitely will do, not for what he's done.

I'm with you for rating players by not going year to year for players who have hit their ceiling, but not for a guy like Pedroia who is still getting better. He has better to come than 08, and it would not be right to rate him for his 07 power with 8 HR's when he has shown that with more experience he can hit 17 HR's. That number may climb up to 25 in the next coming years. He's only played two years in the majors, so career highs really don't matter. 08 will not be his best season, and he will top those career highs. He's only getting better, and he should be rated for that.

You're the one who doesn't seem to know much about sports if you're not willing to even consider progression.

By the way, Youkilis is one of the best at saving errant throws. He never misses a pick, NEVER.

[kingblue18]

For future consideration please don't ever refer to the Gold Grove award as a meaningful award. Padroia was nothing more then average defensively based on unbiased statistics. The GG has become almost as ridiculous as All-Star balloting in recent years. That said, Dustin Padroia is a heck of a player and I would take him on my team any day.

[BigBlue1112]

Thats true if you consider that guys like Jeter and Guerrero rake it in annually but are conidered to be two of the worst at their positions.

But as a Sox fan I must say that Pedroia is highly above average 2B. He makes diving play after diving play, and he gets to anything from second to the hole beween him and 1st. He's also got one of the quickest turns on DP's.

[sayheykidetn]

He had 17 HRs and 54 doubles and pretty much every one of his stats were career highs. If 2K did ratings based off only last year then maybe he will be a 90, but they don't. They do it on 3 year averages and his previous 2 years are nothing amazing.

In 2006 he had 89 at bats... and they weren't good....

In 2007 he had 8 HRs and 7 SB.

Like I said, he will have
- high contact
- below average power
- average speed
- above average fielding

of course he had career highs hes been in the league 2 full seasons. 06 doesnt count, he was a september call up and a rookie.

if pedroia cant be a 90 then phil huges cant be a 70 cuz a 6.62 era licks sack. the door swings both ways

[Ninjapenguin777]

Don't forget Jeter Why should he have been rated so high for so many years? You overrate Hr's Frankly I could care less because I hate both of your teams

[Archie55]

Hey Chad I noticed when you rated Granderson you said he had a lack of pop. I dont know but I call having 20+ homeruns the past couple years great pop. unless you meant something different. if so, please explain.

[Ninjapenguin777]

It might have been his explanations messing up. It did that for some of them. He was the first player to go 20+ hr, 20+ doubles, and 20+ triples(?) right

[derekjeter76]

By the way, Youkilis is one of the best at saving errant throws. He never misses a pick, NEVER.

lol, I have to bring this up. How did he get this then? I am sure you know. :D

http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/28/2008/06/24/320x240/youk.jpg

here is more help if you need it: http://wbztv.com/sports/redsox/kevin.youkilis.boston.2.755477.html

Also Pedroia is 5'9'', so I don't see 20 HR as a strong posibility in his future. It might happen, but to say it will is stupid. He is listed as 5'11'' or something, but those numbers (and weight) are changed to make the player seem better.

[derekjeter76]

if pedroia cant be a 90 then phil huges cant be a 70 cuz a 6.62 era licks sack. the door swings both ways

34 IP....... nice try.

[BigBlue1112]

Actually he's listed as 5'9 and is really 5'6
he hit 17 this year, so 20 is not far from his reach and is a strong possibility
all his life he's had power, just not size, and people need to look past the size and just look at what he does on the field


and I was laughing for at least 10 mins when youk got hit
and phil hughes sucks, along with Kennedy, although I will say that Buchholz blew this year too

[soldaderyan]

yeah , nice job mike lowel, with that terrible throw when the pitcher was warming up haha...

[DevilDawwg]

I know he has been hurt...but how does he not even make the list? Eric Chavez? Your lists are full of injury plagued guys.

[BIGZFOOT]

lol, I have to bring this up. How did he get this then? I am sure you know. :D

http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/28/2008/06/24/320x240/youk.jpg

here is more help if you need it: http://wbztv.com/sports/redsox/kevin.youkilis.boston.2.755477.html

Also Pedroia is 5'9'', so I don't see 20 HR as a strong posibility in his future. It might happen, but to say it will is stupid. He is listed as 5'11'' or something, but those numbers (and weight) are changed to make the player seem better.

Obviously he was being cocky during warm-ups... I was watching when that happened. It sucked because they put Brandon Moss on 1st and he made a costly error.

[Ninjapenguin777]

Figures you live in Florida and your a soxs fan

[derekjeter76]

Obviously he was being cocky during warm-ups... I was watching when that happened. It sucked because they put Brandon Moss on 1st and he made a costly error.
LOL. OBVIOUSLY he was being cocky because the magnificent Kevin Youkilis couldn't possibly get hit in the face from a bounced ball if he was trying!

And no, you were NOT watching it when that happened because it did not show that because I was watching that game and when it came back from commercials the announcers were talking about how Youk got hit in the face and taken out of the game. And you were not at the game because you live in Florida and that pretty far from Boston. And I doubt you were on vacation that day and went to that game. You fail.

[NTG]

i appreciate your effort chad..

Yovani Gallardo is at least an 86-87

[sayheykidetn]

no hes not he barely pitched last year.

[derekjeter76]

i appreciate your effort chad..

Yovani Gallardo is at least an 86-87

who that???

[slickkill77]

He's a Brewers pitcher. He was a big prospect. He was good the last two years but had a few injuries last year....


O yes holy crap I got my account back!!!

[chad0034]

Ahh i dk if Gallardo could get an 86-87 yet.. his potential is definantly high though.. he's gonna be a hell of a pitcher when he reaches it.

[BIGZFOOT]

LOL. OBVIOUSLY he was being cocky because the magnificent Kevin Youkilis couldn't possibly get hit in the face from a bounced ball if he was trying!

And no, you were NOT watching it when that happened because it did not show that because I was watching that game and when it came back from commercials the announcers were talking about how Youk got hit in the face and taken out of the game. And you were not at the game because you live in Florida and that pretty far from Boston. And I doubt you were on vacation that day and went to that game. You fail.

Are you an idiot? I'm saying I was watching the game when it happened... They showed everything that happened during the warm-ups ago after the commercials.

You jump to conclusions too soon, mate. ;)

Oh, and may I point out, Kevin Youkilis holds the record for longest streak at 1st base without an error.

[derekjeter76]

Oh, and may I point out, Kevin Youkilis holds the record for longest streak at 1st base without an error.
and I stated that that fact does not surprise me.... go look at my 1st post and you will see I said he never makes any errors that get charged to him.

[chad0034]

i should be doing closers sooner or later.. and no Joakim Soria will not be over a 90 for you Royal fans..

[xSEE ME SCORiNx12]

i might try closers and yes k-rod is my number 1 wit pap as a close second lol, and no love for joakim remeber thats joakim SORIA no joakim NOAH lmao jkjk but foreal y no above 90 how about just at 90 i mean cmon the only bright spot for that team lol

[chad0034]

there seems to be a lot of Royal on here..i'd only give him about an 85/86... hes like a Marmol in my mind.

[xSEE ME SCORiNx12]

if marmol can b anything like soria is/was last season that will make me happy didnt he close like 41 games??? made the all star team etc only person from the royals, if not then i have no prob having kevin gregg close either way were fine there just keeping the spot warm till jim and lou can teach there golden boy from notre dame how to b a rockstar and such hes our closer of teh future not marmol

[slickkill77]

What does he have to do to earn your respect?
W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO
4 6 2.05 125 0 0 0 59 66 136.1 85 33 31 8 7 38 141
Career totals

K-Rod is not the best closer in baseball. If you think that then you may want to rethink how you look at pitchers. Saves are one of the most overrated stats in baseball. Rivera, Nathan, Lidge, Soria. They are all better than K-Rod

[Tmoney8]

Yo chad, i didn't see Tim Hudson on tha list, i know he's hurt and will be out most of tha year, but what would you rank him.

[derekjeter76]

What does he have to do to earn your respect?
W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO
4 6 2.05 125 0 0 0 59 66 136.1 85 33 31 8 7 38 141
Career totals

K-Rod is not the best closer in baseball. If you think that then you may want to rethink how you look at pitchers. Saves are one of the most overrated stats in baseball. Rivera, Nathan, Lidge, Soria. They are all better than K-Rod

Let's see after he dominates the NL this year. An ERA under 2 wouldn't surprise me much. And you can't say Lidge is better just because of last season. K-Rod > Lidge.

[xSEE ME SCORiNx12]

soria is a better closer than k-rod wow? its ur opinion fine a respect it but i must disagree with u... soria has been at it for 2 years now no way u can say hes better than a guy that has been donig this all his career A. U Dont just set the saves record not being good. B. hes been steady and consistent for years now. yea soria is good but besides last year when have u ever heard his name? since 2004 k-rod hasnt had an era over 2.80, he had 2 years with eras under 2.00, and a career 2.35, hes had 45+ each of the last 4 years, has not given up more than 20 era the past 5 years, single digit homeruns off of him the past 6 years must i keep going all day the guy is good give him his respect at the moment as the best closer in baseball

[slickkill77]

Did I say he wasnt good? No, but just because you set the save record doesn't mean your the best closer. Look how many save opportunities he had. Does that mean anything to you? He blew 7 saves but he had the most save opportunities of anyone. Does that not mean anything to you? He had 69 save opps the next closest person had 51. How many times do I have to say SAVES ARE A GARBAGE STAT. He only pitched one inning in every game. The whole "closer" role is a farce. Soria was just as good in 2007 and even better in 08. The rays won the AL without a real closer. I respect that its your opinion but its just not a very intelligent one.
Yes you could keep going all day but while you spit out all these stats your still basing your arguement off of one thing SAVES. Here this makes your arguement for era null.

Mo Rivera- Since 2003 he has only had an era above 2 once( 2007- 3.15 era). Career 2.29 era
Joe Nathan- Since 2004 hes only had an era above 2 once (2005- 2.70 era) Career 2.82 era
Jon Papelbon- Closer for 3 years. (2008- 2.34)(2007- 1.85) (2006- 0.92) Career 1.84
Takashi Saito- Closer for 3 years. (2008- 2.49)(2007- 1.40)(2006- 2.07) Career 1.95
Jokim Soria- Closer for 2 years.(2008- 1.60)(2007- 2.48) Career 2.05 in 136.1 innings

[Complex Realmz]

Chad hates the royals......

Soria is top 3 closer

[Complex Realmz]

marmol = 79 how about that.....

[ron3982]

variteck should be way lower IMHO. he hit .220

bengie led ALL catchers in rbis should be higher

if we are basing guys off 1 year stats (soto) then v martinez must come down a whole bunch.

but nice stuff so far

***im anxious to see if lee is higher than berkman :popcorn

Ruiz should be higher than Coste, Coste isn't even going to make the team.

[chad0034]

Chad hates the royals......

Soria is top 3 closer
So hes better than Joe Nathan? Mariano Rivera? Brad Lidge?
The highest i've seen him ranked on any fantasy baseball site is at number 9. Maybe its because hes on a horrible team? Maybe. But top 3, i dont think so. Top 10, yes.

And do i hate the Royals? No, because i can't hate a team that never finishes top 3 in their division. To hate a team, they have to be successful.... sometimes. I know the Cubs haven't won a world series in a century, but they consistently make it close, or into the postseason.

[Complex Realmz]

maybe your mad that the cubs are choke artists?

[slickkill77]

No hes just mad that the White and Red Soxs won before his cubs

[xSEE ME SCORiNx12]

we try to argue points and all you all can do is attack the cubs and there unfortunate legacy, what a cheap route to take in a debate, and im not gonna bother responding to you if u cant even understand my post to say all i argued was saves wow read my post again and but yea think what u want about your soria the guys been in the league for 2 years no way hes a top 3 closer he gets booted out on experience alone put him on a yankee team or twins or a redsox or angels or cubs any big name team where the media kills you and the pressure is immense then see how he does

[BIGZFOOT]

I don't know if Zito is better than Pedro Martinez right now... Pedro is just injured a lot.

[the catch 85]

As awful as Zito is, he is still better than Pedro is now. Pedro was awful for the Mets and had one decent year on his 4 year contract. I pray the Mets don't resign him.

[chad0034]

Closers
1. Francisco Rodriguez- 97 (Hes the richest closer in baseball history. Money talks.)
2. Jonathan Papelbon- 93 (He has had some setbacks this season, but it is tough to move him down any.)
3. Mariano Rivera- 93 (Veteran remains as dominant as ever and Yankees should improve next season.)
4. Brad Lidge- 92 (The only perfect full-time closer (at least until the final weekend)
5. Joe Nathan- 92 (Surprising Twins struggled with their bridge, but Nathan was great all year.)
6. Jose Valverde- 91 (NL saves leader tends to be shaky at times, but how many closers aren't really?)
7. Bobby Jenks- 90 (The big man didn't have as good of a second half this year, but he remains elite.)
8. Houston Street- 89 (In Colorado, you should see his numbers decline a little, in that hitters park.)
9. Joakim Soria- 88 (One of the nastiest relievers around. We would like him much more on a contender.)
10. Jonathan Broxton- 88 (The Dodgers should go with him next year as their closer.)
11. BJ Ryan- 88 (Tommy John survivor has proven to be healthy and productive all over again.)
12. Kerry Wood- 87 (He finally proved healthy and looks like he could have a nice career as a closer.)
13. JJ Putz- 87 (This year's proof you cannot trust heavily in closers; Putz fell real hard in a year.)
14. Francisco Cordero- 87 (He might not be worth the contract he got, but at least they stick with him due to it.)
15. Brian Fuentes- 87 (Comeback season can make him real rich this winter. He likely only signs to close.)
16. Trevor Hoffman- 86 (His stats belie his age, but he should continue to be a steady option on the low end.)
17. Carlos Marmol- 86 (Now the future closer of Chicago. Has one of the best sliders in the game, but he relies to much on it.)
18. Brian Wilson- 86 (It is easier to rank a 40-save closer this low with his high ERA and WHIP.)
19. Takashi Saito- 85 (Age and injury risk make it likely Broxton holds the closer's role permanently.)
20. Mike Gonzalez- 85 (His Tommy John return was not as impressive as Ryan's but there is potential here.)
21. Brandon Morrow- 85 (This will be a big breakout year for him. His stuff is even better in Great Northwest.)
22. Brad Ziegler- 84 (Deceptive delivery makes up for his so-so arm; he needs to win the job, though.)
23. Scott Shields- 84 (If Arredondo doesn't assume the closer's role, Shields certainly can be a great pick.)
24. Grant Balfour- 80 (He had better numbers than others with the Rays, but can they trust him this soon?)
25. Chad Qualls- 84 (He was great down the stretch, but he likely will have to compete to close in spring.)
26. Matt Capps- 83 (The Pirates notoriously don't give a whole lot of save chances, but Capps is good.)
27. Chris Ray- 82 (Another Tommy John closer returnee. The O's will now win consistently, though.)
28. Kevin Gregg- 82 (Injury-plagued second half has to make you cautious, but he can be a sleeper still.)
29. Troy Percival- 82 (Age and injury risk are the reasons he is down this low, so watch him this winter.)
30. Jason Isringhausen- 82 (Awful year last season. Might not be a closer much longer.)
31. Jose Arredondo- 81 (Angels system has developed a potential gem here, especially with K-Rod gone.)
32. Joey Devine- 80 (Breakthrough will put him in the closer mix, but Street and Ziegler get first cracks.)

Starters 66-90
Coming Soon

[soldaderyan]

what happen with the descriptions?

[slickkill77]

4 points better? I have nothing to say

[chad0034]

what happen with the descriptions?
too many people were hating on them. If you want them, I'll put some in. Just lemme know.

[chad0034]

alright i added them.

[slickkill77]

Valverde and Street that it is all

[RKO BLACK RKO]

4 points better? I have nothing to say

thank you so much, the most sensable thing that has come out of your mouth for a week

[biggestcubsfan]

thank you so much, the most sensable thing that has come out of your mouth for a week
lol.... broxton an 88 litlle to high but nice job

[RKO BLACK RKO]

lol.... broxton an 88 litlle to high but nice job


im sure he gave him that high because broxton kinda showed up down the stretch and in the playoffs that what warants him that spot i suppose

[Tmoney8]

I hope Mike Gonzales can do some nice work this year with his "hipnotizing delivery" lol. He looked pretty good when he came back late last season.

[i.do.requests]

I think 97 is a bit high for K-Rod, and I don't think his contract is any justification for overrating him (as you implied with your description for Cordero). But otherwise, nice job. It's obvious you put a lot of work into these lists and you do a good job.

[chad0034]

discuss ... please.

[falcgun1337_Xbox360]

Well from the ESPN article I see

Lincecum is a 96
Winn is an 80
Rowand is a 82

[robin10822]

beltran and reyes should be higher then their ratings....i'd say reyes 95 beltran 93-94

[SLagonia]

variteck should be way lower IMHO. he hit .220

Agreed. Both offensively and defensively he's past it.

[chad0034]

well now that the ratings are here, I'll be using these for sure. I'm glad that was the announcement, i just don't like the ratings in general
Kyle Farnsworth-79
Geovany Soto-80
This is saying that Kyle Farnsworth is as good of a pitcher, as Soto is as a catcher, which is far from true IMO.

[AeroZach]

Chad you did a great job with these. I admire the time and patience you put into them.

I read the whole thread and frankly, some of the arguments were a bit ridiculous, and the insults obviously didn't help anything. The ratings are THIS GUY'S OPINION, if you disagree, no need to call him a "retard" or anything. I even disagree with some of them, but won't really point them out because frankly, I think the fact that so much effort was put into it in itself doesn't warrant criticism. That's just me.

[chad0034]

Thanks Zach. Don't you live by Rockford too? And post on VSN?

[chad0034]

and if anyone wants these ratings, ill be posting them in 2KShare for others. I know I don't agree w/ most of the other ratings, but I appreciate 2K for putting them up. Thanks again Ron.

[Marin3rs]

#1) you underrated Felix hernandez. he should be about a 86-88

#2) wheres you 2nd list of SPs and OFs

#3) wheres the RPs?

[AeroZach]

Thanks Zach. Don't you live by Rockford too? And post on VSN?

Not a problem, my friend.

Lockport, actually, a couple hours south of Rockford (though I've been up there a lot lately, concerts, family, etc.). As for VSN, I'm considering joining once I get 2K9, looks like a great place from what I could tell when I checked it out yesterday.

[chad0034]

yea it is. Tons of chises' and in the offseason i usually update Cubs a little, and start a College Basketball one. Its gonna take a while to adjust everyone this year but I'll do it right when i put the game in.

[jeffy77712]

Its gonna take a while to adjust everyone this year but I'll do it right when i put the game in.

Sounds good. You're a dedicated man...... But you may want to try the game out first :)

[chad0034]

yea for some reason i always look at the rosters first. Usually it was to see if 2K finally updated the player pics (they finally did it this year :)) but now it will be to edit the rosters :(

[jeffy77712]

Looking at your ratings and can't wait to try them out bro :D

[LTBUCKS33]

Outfielders
1. Matt Holliday- 96 (A DL stint hurt his numbers, but he will be motivated for a huge contract next year.)
2.Manny Ramirez- 94 (Great numbers with the Dodgers might have been contract driven, so be cautious here.)
3.Grady Sizemore- 93 (You would be justified picking him atop this position as a sleeper to go 40-40.)
4. Ryan Braun- 92 (Great Young Hitter, and his defense was good in LF last season.)
5. Alfonso Soriano- 91 (Another disappointing year but he could go off any given year with a long hot streak.)
6. Carlos Lee- 90 (Steady, underrated slugger remains at at least a 90.)
7. Carlos Beltran- 90 (Another solid year. Hes about as consistent as it gets.)
8. Josh Hamilton- 90 (He, too, has a pretty good case for the No. 1 spot. We could see .300-40-120-100-10.)
9. Ichiro Suzuki- 90 (Steals were high early in the season, but as his age declines will he continue to steal bases?)
10. Vladimer Guerrero- 90 (Numbers no longer look elite as he ages, but he could rebound if they ever protect him.)
11. Jason Bay- 89 (It should be real tantalizing to project a huge first full season in Fenway Park.)
12. Adam Dunn- 89 (Free agent has 40-homer, 180-strikeout potential annually. If he could just hit .260...)
13. BJ Upton- 89 (It was an awful year for him, but the speed-and-power potential keeps him interesting.)
14. Carlos Quentin- 89 (Season-ending injury hurts, but the potential to go .300-40-120-100 annually is there.)
15. Carl Crawford- 89 (Huge 27-year-old disappointment had his first injury-plagued year; he is a sleeper here.)
16. Ryan Ludwick- 88 (Huge breakout year gets him up to an 88. Will he be able to continue though?)
17. Curtis Granderson- 88 (Rebound year was nice, but a lack of true pop or steals potential weighs him down still.)
18. Torii Hunter- 88 (He might not even be able to play everyday, or leadoff.)
19. Maglio Ordonez- 88 (Tigers lineup was supposed to have even a bigger year than it did, so watch for Maggs.)
20. Pat Burrel- 87 (I'm not sure he has an everyday job next year. That is a nice hitter's park, though.)
21. Alex Rios- 87 (Another 27-year-old Fantasy bust, what the ...? Rios is a lot more powerful than this.)
22. Nate McLouth- 87 (This year's top sleeper played like a top five, but how much better can he be.)
23. Jermaine Dye- 87 (His age makes him a risk, but if he comes back to White Sox, 30 homers is reachable.)
24. Vernon Wells- 87 (Second-half health and improvement gives hope he could be an elite outfielder again.)
25. Nick Markakis- 87 (Aubrey Huff stole his thunder this year, but there are few outfielders with more upside.)
26. Matt Kemp- 86 (Steals were real surprising, especially when power was supposed to be his strong suit.)
27. Rick Ankiel- 86 (Not a bad almost-full season as an outfielder, but he needs to prove healthy, consistent.)
28. Bobby Abreu- 86 (Streaking down the stretch to earn a decent contract, but his elite days are over now.)
29. Milton Bradley- 85 (If you don't think the Rangers will be in the race, don't bother with Mr. Operation Shutdown.)
30. Hunter Pence- 85 (Sophomore season was unspectacular, but he showed improvement in the second half.)
31. Raul Ibanez- 85 (He has proven to be a second-half player the last few years, so watch that again in '09.)
32. Eric Byrnes- 84 (He was McLouth a few years ago, so if his hammys are healthy in spring, look out above.)
33. Shane Victornio- 84 (He has more pop in his bat than he showed this year, but Twins appear committed to him.)
34. Chris Young- 84 (Free-swinger had bad second year, lending credence to critics of poor contract prospects.)
35.Corey Hart- 84 (It must be nice having a 45-plus steal season qualify as an "off year," but he was an MVP.)
36. Johnny Damon- 84 (Disappointing year should finally drop his rating down to a reasonable level.)
37. Aaron Rowand- 84 (Not the greatest ballpark for him, but hes still a pretty good player.)
38. Andre Ethier- 84 (Check out his splits once he started hitting in front of Manny. Wow! He's breaking through.)
39. Jacoby Ellsbury- 84 (Came up a little short in ROY race, but he clearly is a nice Damon redux long term.)
40. JD Drew- 84 (Improvement in the second half post-injury shows he wsn't a fluke as a rookie.)
42. Ken Griffey- 84 (Hall of Famer has some legendary homer goals to reach, so he will find a home to do it in.)
43. Brad Hawpe- 83 (He has hit better against left-handers which could mean a big season for him next year.)
44. Hideki Matsui- 83 (Injury woes drop his stock considerably, especially if he cannot play outfield full time.)
45. Brian Giles- 83 (If he can get out of purgatory in San Diego, he might have a chance to regain lost homers.)
46. Carlos Gomez- 83 (First full season started great and is finishing well, but it was real ugly in between.)
47. Nick Swisher- 83 (Potential is a nice thing to have, but you actually have to show it sometime you know.)
48. Jay Bruce- 83 (Streaky rookie is a bit overrated here, but hype will have him selected too high.)
49. Conor Jackson- 83 (Thats right..he can techniqually qualify as an OF this year.)
50. Jose Guillen- 83 (This was a quality rookie season and should have earned him a starting job for next spring.)
51. Jeff Francoeur- 82 (What a disastrous falloff from his previous lofty status. The good news is he is still young.)
52. Delmon Young- 82 (A poor second half was an overdue market correction, but he does the little things well.)
53. Randy Winn- 82 (He went from being an annual 30-homer shortstop to being an annual question mark. Flaky.
54. David Murphy- 82 (This was a quality rookie season and should have earned him a starting job for next spring.)
55. Jeremy Hermida- 82 (Perennial breakout candidate is an annual disappointment, but don't give up hope yet.)
56. Josh Willingham- 82 (Back issues have claimed career, so hopefully this power bat can respond next year.)
57. Mike Cameron- 82 (Despite missing first month to suspension he posted some decent totals on the cheap.)
58. Justin Upton- 81 (Despite missing first month to suspension he posted some decent totals on the cheap.)
59. Garrett Anderson- 81 (Veteran can still drive in runs, but there will be a year he just complete tails off.)
60. Luke Scott- 81 (Serves better as a platoon outfielder, but if you are going to be a part-timer, be a lefty.)
61. Mark Teahen- 81 (Line-drive stroke provides erractic homer totals and he has never quite developed well enough.)
62. Michael Cuddyer- 81 (Injury-plagued year puts dent in his career, but he still could go .280-20-90-90 next year.)
63. Jayson Werth- 80 (Part-time slugger has earned full-time status and could be due for a huge first full season.)
64. Kosuke F.uk.udome- 80 (Import started great and finished OK, but he was lost most of the summer months.)
65. Lastings Milledge- 79 (Once an elite prospect, he finally showed his potential in the second half. He'll get better.)
66. Xavier Nady- 79 (Did an alright job in New York, but will he play everyday?)
67. Cameron Maybin- 79 (He didn't rise as quickly as we expected, but he definitely made a great late impression.)
68. Fred Lewis- 79 (Hes developed into a nice major leaguer, and is a huge sleeper for me.)
69. Coco Crisp- 79 (He should play a little better in Kansas City.)
70. David DeJesus- 79 (Decent bat. Don't see him putting up any great numbers but you never know.)

Outfielders 71-90
Coming Soon

where is shin soo choo on this list????

[jeffy77712]

Hey Chad, I was reading on the OS forum, and there's something you may want to think about before you edit the player ratings:

"I believe knowing what players' ratings are is meaningless until we know how they work within the framework of the game.

We have no idea how the game engine treats them on the field or during simulations... we also don't know how the numbers are weighted. Are these "ceiling" numbers, or what each player is at this moment? There are too many variables here.

I'm not saying there is no room for improvement. There always is. But dissecting ratings from a game we have yet to play -- or sim several seasons to get a true feeling for results -- is a little silly. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy it, though."

Seems like good advice: you may want to sim a season or two first to see what the stats look like compared to real stats before you spend a lot of time tweaking. It may help you to get a better idea of what/who exactly needs changed.

[chad0034]

Nice idea Jeffy.. will do... that'll hopefully help me turn up/down some of the players putting up unrealistic stats.

[bkeff12]

I like the effort you put in here. But I didn't see Lyle Overbay on the 1st base list. I know he had an off year, but do you really think Kevin Millar should be rated higher?