Is it just me or is there a lack of info on the MLB 2k9?

[samuraiwahoo12]

From what I hear this game will be out in March. We are in Jan. and I have yet to see an abundance of info for the new game. I can not remeber when info was released last year, but to me this year's info seems like it is kind of dragging.

My general fear is 2k9 is just going to be a roster update along and not ironing out some of the bugs and glitches. I really enjoyed 2k8, but I found that the chise had some serious flaws in it (player progression, lack of speed, everyone batting at 300, and etc.). Then there was the online play. This needs to be worked on something fierce. I only played 3 games online and quickly found out it was not for me.

So, if 2k9 completely fixes the chise, online play, bugs/glitches, frame rate and etc. Will it be enough for you? I know I would be thrilled with a cleaned up 2k8 with a roster update. Of course I will be a little disappointed if nothing new comes out in the way of features, but hey, people still buy Madden year after year. I just want a great game of hardball for the 360 and 2k8 was good even though it was loaded with all kinds of WTFs in it.

Any thoughts?

[RKO BLACK RKO]

omg please lock this thread or delete it we already have about 12 of these thx

[samuraiwahoo12]

What? I just looked over the 3 pages and I did not see anything in the topic title that indicates the lack of info. Also, I was wondering if a roster update and fixing bugs is enough for us fans. Hey, I will take your 12 links so I can contribute to those threads. But hey, thanks for the insightful post.

[RKO BLACK RKO]

look at some of the threads that are hott u tard. its not gonna out right say it jeeze have some cmon sense in your looking but like i said pls lock this thread or delete it b4 we get another pointless, useless, argumentative thread going thx mods

[RKO BLACK RKO]

but since u r a kid and probably won't stop let me help you out but im not doing your homework for you anymore

http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200655
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199686
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200242
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199473
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200182
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200075

now go away

[samuraiwahoo12]

look at some of the threads that are hott u tard. its not gonna out right say it jeeze have some cmon sense in your looking but like i said pls lock this thread or delete it b4 we get another pointless, useless, argumentative thread going thx mods

Ok I see the hott on guess ratings, ball park, get rid of john/joe, etc. You are right, my god how did I miss it? I should just look at all the hot and use my "cmon sense" and search endless posts about ball parks in the effort of having my question answered or to have an insightful conversation. Instead, I get a broke back retard that has not contributed a single useful piece of info. Like I said, link me something and I will contribute there, but instead I am sure you will post something to insult me.

Hey, thanks again for all of your help. I am sure your momma tells you that you're special and a true scholar.

[RKO BLACK RKO]

Ok I see the hott on guess ratings, ball park, get rid of john/joe, etc. You are right, my god how did I miss it? I should just look at all the hot and use my "cmon sense" and search endless posts about ball parks in the effort of having my question answered or to have an insightful conversation. Instead, I get a broke back retard that has not contributed a single useful piece of info. Like I said, link me something and I will contribute there, but instead I am sure you will post something to insult me.

Hey, thanks again for all of your help. I am sure your momma tells you that you're special and a true scholar.


my point exactly... stop being lazy and look in some of these threads you'll get your answer quicker than making a thread which will get looked over, trying to help you not kiss your a s s, not gonna sit here and hold your hand imma tell you like it is

[samuraiwahoo12]

but since u r a kid and probably won't stop let me help you out but im not doing your homework for you anymore

http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200655
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199686
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200242
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199473
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200182
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200075

now go away

First off thank you. Still, did not see anything about if 2k8 would be good enough for folks if they stamped 2k9, but fixed. Seriously, not to be a "kid", but who started with the heat in my thread.

[RKO BLACK RKO]

omg please lock this thread or delete it we already have about 12 of these thx

hhhmmm im sorry but if u think that this is heat then thats your prerogative but stick around long enough you will c what real heat is im just saying and not even buy me by some of the other people on here that flip ape *** real quick

[samuraiwahoo12]

my point exactly... stop being lazy and look in some of these threads you'll get your answer quicker than making a thread which will get looked over, trying to help you not kiss your a s s, not gonna sit here and hold your hand imma tell you like it is but cmon bring on some more insults

Those threads did address certain questions and thoughts. Wait a minute, why are still trying to keep it going? Plus, do not try and take the high road. You have done nothing but trying to imply that i be a little one. Just leave. Let it be looked over. If you nothing to contribute from here on out then why stick around. Look at what you started.

[RKO BLACK RKO]

Those threads did address certain questions and thoughts. Wait a minute, why are still trying to keep it going? Plus, do not try and take the high road. You have done nothing but trying to imply that i be a little one. Just leave. Let it be looked over. If you nothing to contribute from here on out then why stick around. Look at what you started.

i really haven't started anything this is just me and you talking nothing bad and my thing is if you yourself would have looked a lil then all you questions would have been answer im ry or would you have rather heard this

ahem

Hey friend! Listen I see that you have some real good insights and questions about this game, but let me be the first to tell you before things get out of hand. There is a few threads floating around with useful information that can answer about 95% of your questions. Here they go... blank blank blank

yea im sorry im not about to come at you or nobody lilke that im sorry if ur looking for kindness or something but thats just how it is either way you should just take the threads and go with it and b glad that most of your questions got answered

[samuraiwahoo12]

How about you then?

Would 2k9 be good enough for you if it was just a fixed up version of 2k8 with a roster update?

Personally, I loved all of the features of for 2k8, but of course the bugs/glitches/framerate/online/chise was a issue for everyone one way or another. If 2k9 has fixed and addressed all of those issues then I say we have a perfect game of hard ball. I really do not want any new features, well apart of me does, but I would rather have a game that is glitch free than new features at this point.

[Frek21]

Chill out RKO. He can start his own thread if he wants to its not like he is clogging up the boards and if bothers you so much why don't tell the mods about it or you know not click on the thread. Oh and on topic I would be fine with no new features and just clean the game up and putting alot of details into the gameplay and presentation.

[joehat]

Well I guess I'll break this up.

I admit, Yeah, I would be happy if 2k released the game if it was just a fixed up version with a roster update. 2k8 was a huge letdown to me. The framerate, online lag, and sliders are just a few of the problems. One of my biggest gripes is the graphics. With all the technology out there, I can't believe how horrible the fields looked. The dirt and the grass was terrible. That took away a ton of the experience for me because, hello, baseball is played on the field. And if the field looks bad..you get my point. The player models were also hideous.

I'm also suprised there is such a lack of info on this game. Not even a screenshot yet. I'm really hoping this game will be good. 2k's motto is pretty much becoming, "There's always next year!" I wish they would make the game good, instead of just trying to make money. Of course we all love money, but I love a good game as well.

[samuraiwahoo12]

I can only pray that this past year was spent on the little things. I am sure there are a ton features that can be added, but I think more importantly they need to fix the fondation before adding to it. There is one thing they need to do is BETA TEST THE GAME.

I do not know how many of you are in the same boat, but I would be more than willing to wait an xtra month just so they can get almost all the glitches/bugs.

[joehat]

Haha yeah, I'd definitely be willing to wait an extra month or two as well. The dev's have already said the game is basically done though. So where's the infoooooooo?

[samuraiwahoo12]

I know devs (some of them) will tend to stay quite until the game is ready to go gold. It may be done, but they could be testing at the moment. Stress testing it on online or see if features like "Living Roster" (I am not saying that LR is in it, just an example) can be done. I know from some devs I have talked to that they really do not want to make any promises until they are 100% sure the game will have a feature. Unfullfilled promises make gamers mo'angry.

[joehat]

Haha absolutely. I really hope they took their time though and made this game good. I read one post a while back on this forum where an admin was saying with the new dev team and what not, we shouldn't expect too many changes this year. So all I'm really expecting is the framerate issue gone. I don't know if they'll fix the online, but hopefully.

[samuraiwahoo12]

What you just said made me more happy about the game. I just want to know what they have focused on. I am huge chise enthusiast and apart me feels like that will get left behind a bit. Just so many glaring issues.

I am willing to bet that their priority list would look something like this...
1) Framerate
2) Online play
3) Character models
4) New feature (if there is any)
5) ???
6) ???
7) ???
8) ???
9) ???
10) Chise player progression. 2k8 around year 10-12 it gets really bad. Each year I would have manually tweak each young rook's numbers. They were so out of whack. Ultimately, ended my time with 2k8.

[joehat]

Yeah so true on that. I must say though, contrary to what most people on this forum say; I would much rather see a revamped, more in-depth franchise mode instead of a "road to the show" type mode. I usually play franchise (usually one with regular teams, and one with the draft) and put myself and some friends on the team as well. I would love to see a team creator and a very very much updated player creator.

That's my own opinion, of course. The game isn't gonna be what "I" want haha.

[b-Dub]

If anyone has followed the releases of NHL 2K9 and NBA 2K9, you would see that 2K has held back on info until a couple months from release. It's part of their "marketing strategy", and while I don't agree with it, and quite a few others don't agree with it, it is what they have been doing. They hold back info until late, to get people hyped up for the game right before release, instead of months in advance when you could possibly forget about the game when it does finally come out.

Before the NBA games came out, EA had released loads of info about their game months before release. 2K had only released the cover athlete. 2K didn't ramp up their info releases until a couple months before the game came out. However, by that time, EA had already released all their info, so basically, all the hype for their game had passed. The only game really being talked about for the last month and a half before release was 2K9. No one was talking about EA's game, because EA had nothing new to release about their game. 2K's marketing worked, in a way, even though many people were upset about lack of info during the time that EA was releasing info.

I think it'll be the same with the MLB games. You'll see lots of stuff from Sony about their game now. Then as the release dates draw near, you'll start seeing more info from 2K. They would rather get people excited for their game right before it comes out, so that it's fresher in people's minds on release day. It may be a strategy that many people don't really like, especially when the competition is releasing info, but it is what it is and I doubt if they will change it for this 2K9 release.

[chad0034]

If anyone has followed the releases of NHL 2K9 and NBA 2K9, you would see that 2K has held back on info until a couple months from release. It's part of their "marketing strategy", and while I don't agree with it, and quite a few others don't agree with it, it is what they have been doing. They hold back info until late, to get people hyped up for the game right before release, instead of months in advance when you could possibly forget about the game when it does finally come out.

Before the NBA games came out, EA had released loads of info about their game months before release. 2K had only released the cover athlete. 2K didn't ramp up their info releases until a couple months before the game came out. However, by that time, EA had already released all their info, so basically, all the hype for their game had passed. The only game really being talked about for the last month and a half before release was 2K9. No one was talking about EA's game, because EA had nothing new to release about their game. 2K's marketing worked, in a way, even though many people were upset about lack of info during the time that EA was releasing info.

I think it'll be the same with the MLB games. You'll see lots of stuff from Sony about their game now. Then as the release dates draw near, you'll start seeing more info from 2K. They would rather get people excited for their game right before it comes out, so that it's fresher in people's minds on release day. It may be a strategy that many people don't really like, especially when the competition is releasing info, but it is what it is and I doubt if they will change it for this 2K9 release.
Couldn't of said it better myself. I see where they're coming from when they do that, but I think if you have the info, just give out a little when Sony releases their big batch of information, than release the bigger stuff in a couple months. There are so many questions about this game though. Whats going on now the Brinkman is gone? How is VC changing the game? Will Front Office Manager effect the game at all? Plenty more.

[soldaderyan]

at least they should release some screenshots

[bigfnjoe96]

Once Front Office Manger drops, 2K9 Info should start hitting the airwaves. Be patient people info will start dropping before you know it

[chad0034]

yea now that we're in January it should come...i'd say little by litte. After the 15th, is when they usually start.

[Tribe254812]

I would hope to see some info by the end of the month....ill wait to reserve it till i see something in regards to this game but im sure ill end up getting it regardless

[samuraiwahoo12]

I would hope to see some info by the end of the month....ill wait to reserve it till i see something in regards to this game but im sure ill end up getting it regardless

Man... I always tell myself that I am going to wait, but I can not go without my hardball. As long as it is relatively similar to 2k8 and it still keeps the classic control option I will be picking it up in a hurry.

[joehat]

Aw man. The classic is ok but I hope they keep the total control pitching! I loved it, it definitely made pitching way more fun and interesting.

[RKO BLACK RKO]

Swing Stick 3.0 should b impressive, Total control pitching 2.0 once all the kinks are worked out is gonna b sick

[samuraiwahoo12]

Aw man. The classic is ok but I hope they keep the total control pitching! I loved it, it definitely made pitching way more fun and interesting.

Oh I definitely agree. I just can not do the Total control and swing stick. Broken thumbs of the past get worn out and painful real quick for me. I love the inovation, think it is brilliant. I only hope they have an option to play online against other classic guys. Keep them separate, but have the option to choose who one would want to play against.

[joehat]

Yeah that'd be good if they put that in. Most of my friends can't use the total controls. I have to admit, I pretty much sucked at swing stick 2.0. I used the setting where you pulled back and release. Whenever I put swing stick 2.0 on, I rarely got "natural" hits, and the majority of my runs were scored on homeruns.

[chad0034]

Yeah that'd be good if they put that in. Most of my friends can't use the total controls. I have to admit, I pretty much sucked at swing stick 2.0. I used the setting where you pulled back and release. Whenever I put swing stick 2.0 on, I rarely got "natural" hits, and the majority of my runs were scored on homeruns.

same here man.. i used the Swing Stick 1.0, and used the pull back and release and sometimes the power swing. The thing i hate almost the most about MLB 2K is that all the runs come off homers, when its totally different in real life. Theres only about 2 homeruns a game in the MLB, and theres probly 4 in this game. Sliders do effect it, but it still seems to be the same. Mix up the hit variety, please.

[Gamerdrw]

i totally agree...i hope that they keep the option to go to the one button pitching...i was unable to use the precision pitching or whatever..I couldnt stop throwing meatballs...

[samuraiwahoo12]

same here man.. i used the Swing Stick 1.0, and used the pull back and release and sometimes the power swing. The thing i hate almost the most about MLB 2K is that all the runs come off homers, when its totally different in real life. Theres only about 2 homeruns a game in the MLB, and theres probly 4 in this game. Sliders do effect it, but it still seems to be the same. Mix up the hit variety, please.

I always felt like I got more a sim feel when I used classic, but yes, it did come from tweaking the sliders a great deal. I got it to a point where I had to get a 2-4 hits to score 1-2 runs and the occasional base clearing homer. Unfortunately I never used my final slider setup on the new innovations.

Sliders, now this is something that should be addressed. I do not know how many games I played before I got that right sim feel. I would say around 30+ and it resembled almost nothing of the default settings. It would be nice to have a nice, somewhat tested default settings for us to work off. It took me almost 10 games to realize that pitchers never threw balls. It felt like 90% strikes with the default settings.

Something I was thinking about after playing NBA 2k9 was the way they did player ratings. I am not a big fan of letter grades, but NBA 2k9 provided the user with scouting reports pts. to use towards seeing actual number ratings. I know it is not a big deal at all, but for some reason I like numbers more than letter grades. Just a minor thing that I would like to see happen.

[joehat]

Haha Samurai, I always thought the total control pitching gave it a more sim-like feel. That's cool though, I'm sure they'll include options for both. As for using Swing Stick 1.0..my slider set put hit power down around 20-30 and hit quality on 100 (among other sliders). This resulted in a drastic decrease in homeruns and produced many new hits I hadn't yet seen. Upping the hit quality allowed me to hit doubles into the gaps, triples into the corners, bloop singles and doubles, singles between the infielders, and the occasional homer looked a lot better IMO. Turning the hit quality down meant that the majority of my hits were singles up the middle, doubles off the walls, and homeruns. However, pressing the Swing Stick 1.0 up still produced homeruns very often.

Well I think I'm getting a bit off topic. Sliders definitely need to be addressed. Also, pitchers still don't get certain pitches right. I still see sinkers and splitters up around the shoulders. That should rarely, if ever, happen. Curveballs and sliders need to act more like, curveballs and sliders. Brad Lidge's slider isn't 3-9, as it acts in the game. Lidge's slider up in the zone is more 2-8 and down near the knees or dirt it should be 1-7 or even 12-6 sometimes. I don't think they could emulate that in the game though haha.

[samuraiwahoo12]

Oh definitely, to each their own and as long as we enjoy it. I do agree that user pitching with TC Pitching was definitely more Sim like. The pin point system is.... well lack of a better word too percise. I felt that it was too forgiving and no pitch should be completely point, aim, throw, and have it hit the target 100x in a row. This could be whole other topic, but I would like something done about the classic. That is why I played break instead of pinpoint. Still, if I knew the break it was not hard to place the ball where I wanted it.

[joehat]

Right, and I used break point as well. Just like you said, I pretty much understood the breakpoints, so I could still pitch pinpoint, using breakpoint. I really hope the include different types of breaks. Instead of just Curveball and 12-6 Curve, I hope they allow us the option to make 1-7, 12-6, 10-4, etc. Same with sliders, change-ups, and knuckle balls. IMO, two things are happening right now. Withholding info means either, the game is awesome, or they know it stinks. Haha. I think this game will meet our expectations.

[RKO BLACK RKO]

kush isnt doing it anymore so i look at it this way

visual concepts

nba 2k7, 2k8, 2k9 all great games all destroy nba LIVE

Kush Games

MLB 2k6, 2k7, 2k8 all bad games except maybe 2k7, and 2k8 was exactly bad it just was'nt good

visual concepts doing mlb 2k9 best newz ever for me and should be for everybody else to we should be more than pleased with the output and should be looking forward to a great game

[Tribe254812]

I usually play withthe classic batting and the percision pitchting...the one with the right thumb stick....as lons as theres classic controls still on there it should be ok

[Frek21]

What about NHL 2k9? Visual Concepts is not a guranteed great game. They have been making NBA games for a while. I am not saying that they want make a great game eventually but it will be hard for them to do it with less than a year for their first crack at a baseball game on the 360.

[jeffy777]

same here man.. i used the Swing Stick 1.0, and used the pull back and release and sometimes the power swing. The thing i hate almost the most about MLB 2K is that all the runs come off homers, when its totally different in real life. Theres only about 2 homeruns a game in the MLB, and theres probly 4 in this game. Sliders do effect it, but it still seems to be the same. Mix up the hit variety, please.

I definitely agree we need more hit variety. However, sounds like you really need to adjust your difficulty sliders a bit. With the right sliders (such as SFG's sliders), you will see a lot less homers and more RBI producing doubles/singles from both the AI and yourself.

But yes, you are right: 2K9 needs more hit variety and better default difficulty settings that provide a more realistic game of baseball right out of the box without the need to tweak sliders.

[joehat]

Absolutely. I can't tell you how many times I've scorched a ball down the 3rd or 1st base line and had the first baseman dive and make an amazing play. 8 or 9 times out of 10 a ball right down the line is a hit. There's not enough hits into the gaps. I found a really good set of sliders. With them I get much better hits, less homeruns, more walks, and not every single player can make amazing plays. I'm a Philly fan at heart, but how many times is Pat Burrell (I'm suprised he's still a free agent) gonna leap up and make an amazing catch to rob a homerun..or a completely horizontal dive for a screaming liner in the gap..not often. I'm not picking on Pat, he's just an example. Victorino on the other hand..

[chad0034]

Absolutely. I can't tell you how many times I've scorched a ball down the 3rd or 1st base line and had the first baseman dive and make an amazing play. 8 or 9 times out of 10 a ball right down the line is a hit. There's not enough hits into the gaps. I found a really good set of sliders. With them I get much better hits, less homeruns, more walks, and not every single player can make amazing plays. I'm a Philly fan at heart, but how many times is Pat Burrell (I'm suprised he's still a free agent) gonna leap up and make an amazing catch to rob a homerun..or a completely horizontal dive for a screaming liner in the gap..not often. I'm not picking on Pat, he's just an example. Victorino on the other hand..
a lot of good examples in that. Yea the catches by guys like Manny, Bonds (2K7), Adam Dunn, Pat Burrel, is way over the line. They shouldn't even be able to dive. Or have them dive, but just about never come down with it.

[joehat]

Haha you just reminded me..Adam Dunn! I like Adam Dunn, but I remember I had finally played an entire season in 2k7 and the division race was coming down to the wire. It was the final game against the Nationals (I used the draft, I'm the Phillies), and with two outs and the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth, I (my created self) hit a high fly ball to left, only to have Adam Dunn climb the wall and pull it back in. I remember that only because it was the only time I have ever seriously gotten angry at a video game. I threw my paddle across the room and it broke haha. And then to add insult to injury my team missed the wild card, the Nationals won the world series, and no kidding, can you guess who the World Series MVP was?

That was really pointless to tell, but damn you Adam Dunn.

Anyway, glad you agree with my examples. As you mentioned, certain players should just NOT be able to make certain plays. I played a ton of 2k8 and I was always looking out for possible changes to be made in 2k9.

[chad0034]

Haha you just reminded me..Adam Dunn! I like Adam Dunn, but I remember I had finally played an entire season in 2k7 and the division race was coming down to the wire. It was the final game against the Nationals (I used the draft, I'm the Phillies), and with two outs and the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth, I (my created self) hit a high fly ball to left, only to have Adam Dunn climb the wall and pull it back in. I remember that only because it was the only time I have ever seriously gotten angry at a video game. I threw my paddle across the room and it broke haha. And then to add insult to injury my team missed the wild card, the Nationals won the world series, and no kidding, can you guess who the World Series MVP was?

That was really pointless to tell, but damn you Adam Dunn.

Anyway, glad you agree with my examples. As you mentioned, certain players should just NOT be able to make certain plays. I played a ton of 2k8 and I was always looking out for possible changes to be made in 2k9.
haha great story.... but the only thing you can really do, is edit their attributes and take away all the diving and other fielding attributes.. thats what i plan on doing this year if its the same way. Who else was on your drafted team? I love doing the drafts.

[Frek21]

The one thing I hate about the fielding is all the 1b and 3b who become superman and catch every line drive or hard hit grounder in the 6 and 4 holes. I rarely got a hit in those holes and if I did it was usually because the fielder did not even make an effort because of the sliders I had to use to control some of the crazy plays the infielders would make.

[joehat]

I liked 2k7's player editor much better than 2k8's, so probably 1/4 of the team was my friends. The rest would just have been players I liked at the time. My thing is, I don't pick the best guys, I pick players who I think I'll like in the long run. Besides my locks..usually Ryan Howard and Cole Hamels. I remember my rotation being Cole Hamels, John Smoltz, myself, Scott Olsen, and Byung-hyun Kim. I think my infield was Howard, Ricky Weeks, my friend Mike (SS), and my friend Matt (3B). Outfield was easy to remember, RF was Shane Victorino, CF was my friend Karl, and LF was Josh Willingham. My closer was Brad Lidge. It was easy to remember that team because I played for a whole season and the Adam Dunn catch. I almost always use the draft because I can never manage to keep the rosters correct and I usually like to put myself and some friends on my team. My backups are usually players with low ratings but high potential. I really hope 2k9 puts in an awesome player creator. 2k8's was a huge, huge letdown.

[samuraiwahoo12]

On the topic of create a player I have a question. For some reason I remember "Clutch" was a rating that was involved in the player creation process in 2k7 and I think 2k6, not sure how far it goes back. Does anyone know why it was taken out of 2k8?

I just think that it is weird that an attribute/talent like this was taken out when it is something that all fans of hardball tend to notice about their most favorite/hated players.