NFL Draft Combine and Attributes????

[nflhitman]

I want to hear from you what you think your team will do in the first round of the NFL draft and since we have many leagues that use those Rookie players on there teams what would you give your player on your list. Here is how I think my Seahawks will go in the NFL Draft.

Seahawks have the #4 pick in the draft and though many would say that a certain player will go to the Seahawks but with some new information from the Combine I will update my pick for the Seahawks......

Many experts including myself thought it was a done deal that the Seahawks would choose Michael Crabtree for the team but with his stress fracture in his foot and the way that same injury affected Shaun Alexander I will say the Seahawks will not choose Crabtree.

When Drafting for a NFL team they need to look at there weaknesses obviously but they need to see what they need to win there division more and how to match up with in there Division. With that said I believe the Seahawks will take Malcolm Jenkins the CB from Ohio State so they could match up with the Cardinals and Fitzgerald and Boldin. Last year everybody attacked Kelly Jennings and stayed away from Marcus Trufant. It got so bad that Jennings was benched for Josh Wilson who made a lot of great plays at CB. Even though I think the Seahawks will draft Jenkins I would like them to Draft B.J. Raji the DT from Boston College. I don't think they will draft Raji because they have had so many 1st rd bust at DT they will be gun shy. If they had Raji they would collapse the pocket every down which in turn would help the secondary.

Here is how I see the possible players for the Seahawks....

Aaron Curry LB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEwCf7huMgs - Is a player that could end up being the #1 overall pick with his talent. With the Seahawks Franchising Leroy Hill and they still have Lofa Tatupu & Julian Peterson I highly doubt he will land in Seattle even though IMO he is the best player in the Draft.

Curry ( Closing Speed, Speed Burner, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus, Run Reader )

Michael Crabtree WR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPz7caPqoJE - He is very good but there are more 1st rd bust at the WR position than any other position in draft history. With his stress fracture and that he ended up coming in at 2 inches shorter than his listed height at Texas Tech will drop him in the Draft. The Seahawks wanted a Healthy big WR and he is neither with the new information. He was listed at 6'3" at TT and was measured at 6'1" at Combine.

Crabtree ( Strength Bonus, Acrobatic Catch, TIM, Quick Feet, Deep Threat )

B.J. Raji DT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UQ2YGE9SLM - Raji is the pick I would like to see the Seahawks take simply because our run coverage and the lack of a DT collapsing the pocket hurts this team a lot. Since Marcus Tubbs injury basically ended his shirt career the Seahawks have been searching for a DT that cause enough havoc that our LB's could make more plays. the Seahawks have arguably the best in the NFL but it is hard to use them the best way possible if the O-Line is constantly on them. Watching tape of Raji he punishes the blockers and collapses the pocket down after down. He lead Boston College in Sacks with 8 and he is a 337 pound DT. Pressure on the QB makes the rest of the defense so much better that a top tiered CB is not needed. Also notable is the Seahawks use a rotation at D-Line so this pick probably won't be as much as a need as the other areas.

Raji ( Quick Feet, Run Coverage, Pass Rush Bonus, Spin, Bull Rush )

Malcolm Jenkins CB http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoU-BZ3gy44 He is the kind of CB that matches up well on the other side of Trufant. He is a true lock down CB with great ball skills and attacks ball carriers like Trufant does. with the addition of Jenkins the Seahawks could end up having the best CB tandem in the NFL with Josh Wilson coming in at Nickle would create a awesome secondary that in turn would help the D-Line. With a great secondary the QB will hold the ball longer than normal which will cause coverage sacks. With the Seahawks facing the Cardinals they need to step up and lock down these WR's if they hope to win there division. Coach Jim Mora specializes in CB's and he might push Ruskell to drafting this CB and this is the player I see the Seahawks taking as the #4 overall pick in the 2009 Draft.

Jenkins ( Quick Feet, Ball Hawk, Bump Master, Run Coverage, Wrap up Tackler )

After all that I will go on record as saying the Seahawks will select Malcolm Jenkins, B.J. Raji, Michael Crabtree in that order in case Jenkins is picked before the Seahawks pick.

With the #4 pick in the 2009 NFL Draft the Seattle Seahawks select..... Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State!!

[nflhitman]

This section will be for the attributes we all agree with for each player we believe our teams will draft. Lets give every player 5 possible attributes that we can use for later use in NFL leagues. Not saying they would recieve 5 attributes but 5 that could be selected from.

Aaron Curry LB ( Closing Speed, Speed Burner, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus, Run Reader )

Michael Crabtree WR ( Strength Bonus, Acrobatic Catch, TIM, Quick Feet, Deep Threat )

Brian Robiskie WR ( Deep Threat, Hops, BAB, TIM, Possession Receiver )

B.J. Raji DT ( Quick Feet, Run Coverage, Pass Rush Bonus, Spin, Bull Rush )

Malcolm Jenkins CB ( Quick Feet, Ball Hawk, Bump Master, Run Coverage, Wrap up Tackler )

Rey Maulaluga ( Run Coverage,Closing Speed,Leadership,Strength,Run Reader )

Brian Orakpo DE (Closing Speed, Pass Rush Bonus, Sack Master, Rip, Strength)

Darrius Heyward-Bey WR (Quick Feet, Speed Burner, Breakaway Burst, Acrobatic Catches)

Chris "Beanie" Well RB (BAB, Quick Feet, Power, Ankle Breaker, Cutback)

Knowshon Moreno RB (BAB, Finesse, Soft Hands, Strength, and something else)

Eugene Monroe OT ( quick feet, bulldozer, speed burner, stonewall )

Josh Freeman QB ( rocket arm, scrambler )

1st rd team predictions:

NFLHITMAN says the Seahawks will draft Malcolm Jenkins CB in 1st rd.

NFLHITMAN says the Seahawks will draft Brian Robiskie WR in 2nd rd.

Number1killa5 says the Chargers will Draft Rey Maulaluga ILB

Awesome says the redskins will Draft Brian Orakpo DE

Awesome says the Ravens will Draft Darrius Heyward-Bey WR

Scooter says the Broncos will Draft Rey Mauluaga ILB

Scooter says the Saints will Draft Chris Wells RB

Scooter says the Chargers will Draft Knowshon Moreno RB

Bilbo says the Rams will Draft Eugene Monroe OT in 1st rd and Josh Freeman QB in 2nd rd.

[zhaoyun707]

Loook at all these Quick Feets you have...

Aaron Curry was as fast or faster than Patrick Willis!

[nflhitman]

Loook at all these Quick Feets you have...

Aaron Curry was as fast or faster than Patrick Willis!

Curry has all the speed attributes so what are you getting at? Are you saying that those 4 players are not agile for the position? After looking at the video I would say that all 4 are very agile including the big fat guy in Raji.

[ImBACKK,killah5]

I've seen some Tech games an I never noticed particularly quick feet from Crab.

[nflhitman]

I've seen some Tech games an I never noticed particularly quick feet from Crab.

What would you suggest? Did you the video I posted with them? What do you think the Chargers will do in the draft?

[ImBACKK,killah5]

I think my chargers will draft


Rey Maulaluga- Run Coverage,Closing Speed,Leadership,Strength,Run Reader

To be honest we don't have any playmakers at the MLB position, Cooper is serviceable at times but the other MLB is a weak point. Wilhelm sucks, Dobbins sucks. We let Donnie Edwards go thinking Wilhelm was the answer but he get's moved around way too much especially against the run.

[ImBACKK,killah5]

A lot of mock drafts say we will take a rb but that would be a huge mistake. Not only did we franchise sproles but we're keeping L.T so what's the point? To be honest running back is a position usually full with talent in most drafts so we don't really need to take one in the first round.

[nflhitman]

I think my chargers will draft


Rey Maulaluga- Run Coverage,Closing Speed,Leadership,Strength,Run Reader

To be honest we don't have any playmakers at the MLB position, Cooper is serviceable at times but the other MLB is a weak point. Wilhelm sucks, Dobbins sucks. We let Donnie Edwards go thinking Wilhelm was the answer but he get's moved around way too much especially against the run.

I think your pick would be a perfect fit for the Chargers 3-4 defense. A BIG ILB with range.

[ImBACKK,killah5]

O yeah I forgot. I think it's a no brainer the Seahawks have to take Crab. Think about it he'll be playing the Rams,Cards,49ers twice a season. All of those teams have fairly weak secondaries. I think Rodgers-Cromartie is the only one who can match up to him at this point an he hasn't played a down yet. The Seahawks lacked explosive plays in the passing game last year so they could use his help.

[PLAYBOY8869]

Curry has all the speed attributes so what are you getting at? Are you saying that those 4 players are not agile for the position? After looking at the video I would say that all 4 are very agile including the big fat guy in Raji.

HAha, do you know what I notice? You must be extremely jealous that your rival 49ers have Patrick Willis. You wish to find another one like him. There is NO ONE in the league is fast as Willis for linebacker position. Just face the truth, man.

Curry is more likely to have closing speed bonus than "speed burner" since he "looks" fast in closing to the ball. I don't like how you look in the video because your judgement is so weak.

[PLAYBOY8869]

Many experts including myself thought it was a done deal that the Seahawks would choose Michael Crabtree for the team but with his stress fracture in his foot and the way that same injury affected Shaun Alexander I will say the Seahawks will not choose Crabtree.
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Oh my gawd, that's so pure comical! Please don't call yourself an expert after creating so many "unrealistic" players for the league.

[nflhitman]

O yeah I forgot. I think it's a no brainer the Seahawks have to take Crab. Think about it he'll be playing the Rams,Cards,49ers twice a season. All of those teams have fairly weak secondaries. I think Rodgers-Cromartie is the only one who can match up to him at this point an he hasn't played a down yet. The Seahawks lacked explosive plays in the passing game last year so they could use his help.

Talking about how WR is the biggest bust in NFL Draft history. Does anyone remember Charlie Rogers? Mike Williams? They all came out with a lot of hype and with Crabtree's injury and his lack of Height it will cause him to drop down in draft. the perfect scenario for me if for the Seahawks to get 2 of the guys I listed by one of them falling late in to the 2nd rd or they move up in a trade for another 1st rd pick. IMO if you want a player to be a shooin in the 1st rd of the draft and they are not as good as they should be to be picked in that rd than don't draft an agent..... Go get the marketing team for Madden and everyone will buy in to the hype LOL.

[nflhitman]

Oh my gawd, that's so pure comical! Please don't call yourself an expert after creating so many "unrealistic" players for the league.

I said many experts and than said including myself. Not saying I am an expert *******. If anything you are a troll without any knowledge of Football.

[nflhitman]

HAha, do you know what I notice? You must be extremely jealous that your rival 49ers have Patrick Willis. You wish to find another one like him. There is NO ONE in the league is fast as Willis for linebacker position. Just face the truth, man.

Curry is more likely to have closing speed bonus than "speed burner" since he "looks" fast in closing to the ball. I don't like how you look in the video because your judgement is so weak.

How do you get I am jealous at all that the 49ers have Patrick Willis and the Seahawks don't???? I am more than happy to have Lofa on the Seahawks. Do I think Willis is awesome? YES!

Really trying to figure out how you got I was jealous LOL. This is a discussion of players and my thread. If you want to blast me or not talk about what is currently on this subject than leave the thread!!!!

[PLAYBOY8869]

I said many experts and than said including myself. Not saying I am an expert *******. If anything you are a troll without any knowledge of Football.

Nice try to backfire me with your proven limited knowledge of football.

[PLAYBOY8869]

How do you get I am jealous at all that the 49ers have Patrick Willis and the Seahawks don't???? I am more than happy to have Lofa on the Seahawks. Do I think Willis is awesome? YES!

Really trying to figure out how you got I was jealous LOL. This is a discussion of players and my thread. If you want to blast me or not talk about what is currently on this subject than leave the thread!!!!

The thing that annoys me the most is that you've given "speed burner" to many linebackers who don't deserve that.

[nflhitman]

Nice try to backfire me with your proven limited knowledge of football.

I will not reply to anymore of your ignorant post so don't bother addressing me in any of your post.

[nflhitman]

The thing that annoys me the most is that you've given "speed burner" to many linebackers who don't deserve that.

WOW!!! A normal post from you LOL. Just because it is a normal post I will reply. All my CAPS are always up for review and are always updated. I take the advice from everyone in this game and on these forums for accurate attributes for my CAPS.

As I said in this very first post..... Let me know what you think of the attributes you would think would accurately portray these players. If I was stuck in just my opinion on player why would I ask Killa what attribute he would replace Crabtree and his Quick Feet I had listed for him.

Why do you think people post players for my CAPS list for discussion on tier of attributes? Is it because I refuse to listen to them or that I am open to changing a player to his realistic attributes???

Know what your talking about or you will look ignorant.

[awesome1]

Washington Redskins- DE/OLB Brian Orakpo from Texas (Closing Speed, Pass Rush Bonus, Sack Master, Rip, Strength) Strength is debatable, but he benches 515 and squats 600 so I used it to fill out his 5. The other one that would be subbed in for Strength is Quick Feet but that can also be debated because according to ESPN.com he is a fluid athlete but doesn't get up to speed very quickly, although he closes in on the ball carrier/quarterback fast.

Baltimore Ravens- WR Darrius Heyward-Bey from Maryland (not who I think they will pick unless there is not a solid CB available, but he's the hometown guy and I would like to see them get him, and I also know a lot about him so its easier to create him) (Quick Feet, Speed Burner, Breakaway Burst, Acrobatic Catches) Just 4 attributes for him as he doesn't really deserve much else.

[nflhitman]

Washington Redskins- DE/OLB Brian Orakpo from Texas (Closing Speed, Pass Rush Bonus, Sack Master, Rip, Strength) Strength is debatable, but he benches 515 and squats 600 so I used it to fill out his 5. The other one that would be subbed in for Strength is Quick Feet but that can also be debated because according to ESPN.com he is a fluid athlete but doesn't get up to speed very quickly, although he closes in on the ball carrier/quarterback fast.

Baltimore Ravens- WR Darrius Heyward-Bey from Maryland (not who I think they will pick unless there is not a solid CB available, but he's the hometown guy and I would like to see them get him, and I also know a lot about him so its easier to create him) (Quick Feet, Speed Burner, Breakaway Burst, Acrobatic Catches) Just 4 attributes for him as he doesn't really deserve much else.

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey: He is a great athlete that has very little WR abilities. He was a track star turned in to a football player. He is below average as a WR so I don't see any team taking a project like him until 3rd rd.

Brian Orakpo DE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTelDHwUwY ( Speed Burner, Pass Rush Bonus, Sack Master, Rip, Ball Strip )

I will post your predictions with your attributes. What do you think about my attributes I listed for Orakpo after watching his highlight Video. He uses tremendous speed to get around the corner and in the back field.

[zhaoyun707]

How do you get I am jealous at all that the 49ers have Patrick Willis and the Seahawks don't???? I am more than happy to have Lofa on the Seahawks. Do I think Willis is awesome? YES!

Really trying to figure out how you got I was jealous LOL. This is a discussion of players and my thread. If you want to blast me or not talk about what is currently on this subject than leave the thread!!!!

A lot of Seahawks fan tell me that Lofa is overrated... and yes he is slow, he isn't that fast. They tell me his range is only OT to OT.

[zhaoyun707]

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey: He is a great athlete that has very little WR abilities. He was a track star turned in to a football player. He is below average as a WR so I don't see any team taking a project like him until 3rd rd.

Brian Orakpo DE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTelDHwUwY ( Speed Burner, Pass Rush Bonus, Sack Master, Rip, Ball Strip )

I will post your predictions with your attributes. What do you think about my attributes I listed for Orakpo after watching his highlight Video. He uses tremendous speed to get around the corner and in the back field.

AS DE he would have speed burner, OLB he would have Strength Bonus, Pass Rush Bonus, Sack Master, Ball Strip, and loose ball magnet.

[awesome1]

WR Darrius Heyward-Bey: He is a great athlete that has very little WR abilities. He was a track star turned in to a football player. He is below average as a WR so I don't see any team taking a project like him until 3rd rd.

Brian Orakpo DE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTelDHwUwY ( Speed Burner, Pass Rush Bonus, Sack Master, Rip, Ball Strip )

I will post your predictions with your attributes. What do you think about my attributes I listed for Orakpo after watching his highlight Video. He uses tremendous speed to get around the corner and in the back field.

Heyward-Bey will not slip past the first half of the 2nd round, that much I can guarantee. He just recently got pushed out of Mel Kiper's top 32 Big Board but was on it for a while, I think he's around the 35-40 range now. And the Ravens would take chance on him if there aren't any good CB's available. Honestly I don't know a whole lot about Orakpo, I just read that he didn't have tremondous speed although he was a great athlete. After watching that video, though, he does seem pretty fast.

[nflhitman]

A lot of Seahawks fan tell me that Lofa is overrated... and yes he is slow, he isn't that fast. They tell me his range is only OT to OT.

I don't think I have ever said Lofa was a Speed Burner at all. If you think I am jealous because Willis is a fast LB and Lofa is slow well the only thing I can say is that he always leads the Seahawks in tackles except this year because of his missed games and how many Pro Bowls has he played in? How many have Willis played in? You guys really need to stop acting like people are saying **** when they are not. Stay on Willis nuts all you want but if they don't start winning they will see him leave the 49ers like Julian Peterson did because he wants to play for a present day winner not a 1980's winner.

[ImBACKK,killah5]

Heyward Bay ran the fastest time he combine so far. He's probably entered the first round with that performance 4.30...fastest time since Jerome Mathis of the Texans

[zhaoyun707]

I don't think I have ever said Lofa was a Speed Burner at all. If you think I am jealous because Willis is a fast LB and Lofa is slow well the only thing I can say is that he always leads the Seahawks in tackles except this year because of his missed games and how many Pro Bowls has he played in? How many have Willis played in? You guys really need to stop acting like people are saying **** when they are not. Stay on Willis nuts all you want but if they don't start winning they will see him leave the 49ers like Julian Peterson did because he wants to play for a present day winner not a 1980's winner.

What you talking about? 49ers were going to resign Julian Peterson(Still one of my faves) but he bargained for too much money, and he didn't excel in the 3-4. He was a strict 4-3 OLB.

[nflhitman]

Heyward-Bey will not slip past the first half of the 2nd round, that much I can guarantee. He just recently got pushed out of Mel Kiper's top 32 Big Board but was on it for a while, I think he's around the 35-40 range now. And the Ravens would take chance on him if there aren't any good CB's available. Honestly I don't know a whole lot about Orakpo, I just read that he didn't have tremondous speed although he was a great athlete. After watching that video, though, he does seem pretty fast.

I would think because of his size they are saying he doesn't have the speed at the LB position but as a DE he has tremendous speed.

[nflhitman]

Heyward Bay ran the fastest time he combine so far. He's probably entered the first round with that performance 4.30...fastest time since Jerome Mathis of the Texans

The last Combine prospect that had a great combine like that was Matt Jones and we all know how well he has done in the NFL right? Like I said I think he will drop to the 3rd rd or after. This is just my opinion but we will see in April.

If the 40 yard dash is the only thing that would get you drafted in the 1st rd than every track star would join a college team and than go to the combine and get paid for being reallllly fastttttt.

[ImBACKK,killah5]

The last Combine prospect that had a great combine like that was Matt Jones and we all know how well he has done in the NFL right? Like I said I think he will drop to the 3rd rd or after. This is just my opinion but we will see in April.

If the 40 yard dash is the only thing that would get you drafted in the 1st rd than every track star would join a college team and than go to the combine and get paid for being reallllly fastttttt.

Chris Johnson was decent in college...he ran a great 40 time an he was in the probowl last year. Bay was decent at Maryland even though he didn't have anyone worth a lick throwing the ball to him.

[zhaoyun707]

The last Combine prospect that had a great combine like that was Matt Jones and we all know how well he has done in the NFL right? Like I said I think he will drop to the 3rd rd or after. This is just my opinion but we will see in April.

If the 40 yard dash is the only thing that would get you drafted in the 1st rd than every track star would join a college team and than go to the combine and get paid for being reallllly fastttttt.

Vernon Gholston lol!

[ImBACKK,killah5]

Vernon Gholston lol!

He played one year get off his back. An please answer my line stunts topic.

[Scooter5312]

The Denver Bronco's select:
Rey Mauluaga numbah1killah's abilities
The New Orleans Saints or Pats select:
Chris "Beanie" Well (BAB, Quick Feet, Power, Ankle Breaker, Cutback)
My San Diego Chargers select:
Knowshon Moreno (BAB, Finesse, Soft Hands, Strength, and something else)

[DiDy0uSeeME]

vernon gholston is good, just hasnt had a real chance, and killah5 is right, he only played one year, so yes, get off his nut sack

and brian orakpo is a beast, he will be good in the NFL

[DiDy0uSeeME]

why would chargers have a need to select another RB?

i hope that doesnt happen

i hate when teams dont spread the talent evenly

chargers already have two great runningbacks and one of them is a HoF'er

[zhaoyun707]

why would chargers have a need to select another RB?

i hope that doesnt happen

i hate when teams dont spread the talent evenly

chargers already have two great runningbacks and one of them is a HoF'er

There GM is one the worst in the business...

[DiDy0uSeeME]

^^^^^^---------- yea, true lol

[ImBACKK,killah5]

There GM is one the worst in the business...

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[ImBACKK,killah5]

I can argue that A.J Smith has been the best GM for the last 4-5 years yet you mooks are saying he's the worst?? Lmao!

[zhaoyun707]

I can argue that A.J Smith has been the best GM for the last 4-5 years yet you mooks are saying he's the worst?? Lmao!

This makes him the worst for signing this guy. :rotfl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVbfZ6QfKsM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/football/nfl/players/3986.jpg

[ImBACKK,killah5]

This makes him the worst for signing this guy. :rotfl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVbfZ6QfKsM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/images/football/nfl/players/3986.jpg

Hmm he still has drafted more talent than the 49ers can ever hope to see.

Answer my PM!!!!

[zhaoyun707]

Hmm he still has drafted more talent than the 49ers can ever hope to see.

Answer my PM!!!!

Already did! Well your drafted players unlucky because of Norv and suckiness in playoffs!

[ImBACKK,killah5]

Already did! Well your drafted players unlucky because of Norv and suckiness in playoffs!

An the 49ers are great in the playoffs? O yeah we don't know unless we dust off some dinosaur tapes from 10 years ago.

[nflhitman]

Yes lets please go back in time every time we talk about how AWFUL the 49ers are. Wait for it..... Wait for it......

minh speaking........

Yea but how many Superbowls does your team have?????

The past is the only thing that matters to a 49er fan LOL.

[nflhitman]

Here just switch the name here in this video LOL

minh says Schemer bit my finger!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OBlgSz8sSM

[zhaoyun707]

Here just switch the name here in this video LOL

minh says Schemer bit my finger!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OBlgSz8sSM

He is my b!!Tch. :cool: Oh and where has your Seahawks been lately but just have a worst record then the 49ers? Was it embarrassing to lose to a 3rd string FA QB?

[JSHORTY2112]

How do you put a pic under your name...

[nflhitman]

He is my b!!Tch. :cool: Oh and where has your Seahawks been lately but just have a worst record then the 49ers? Was it embarrassing to lose to a 3rd string FA QB?

Just about as bad you getting your *** handed to you in Left 4 Dead LOL.

You know what was great last night??? vegas96 had Seahawksfan, JP Wildman and another good player on there team and all I had on my team that I knew was S0CKC0RN00DLES and 2 others guys we didn't know and we beat them like 6,000 points to there 400 LMFAO!!!

It was a GREAT NIGHT!!!!!

[Scooter5312]

Is Left 4 Dead fun? I will rent it off of Gamefly if it is..

[nflhitman]

Is Left 4 Dead fun? I will rent it off of Gamefly if it is..

What do you think? It is the #1 online game being played at the moment and it is really fun!!!

[Scooter5312]

What do you think? It is the #1 online game being played at the moment and it is really fun!!!

Hey I do not know these things.. What is it about? I am ordering it off of gamefly as we speak..

[nflhitman]

Hey I do not know these things.. What is it about? I am ordering it off of gamefly as we speak..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWuajo8_eUY

[nflhitman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWuajo8_eUY

Here is Eminem telling you to not **** with the WITCH MAN!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAVag2Mj6Ko

Here is the unedited video of Eminem playing Left 4 Dead....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtTh00K72gw

[PLAYBOY8869]

Brian Orakpo DE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZTelDHwUwY ( [B]Speed Burner[b/] Pass Rush Bonus, Sack Master, Rip, Ball Strip )



Can you please elaborate where you see he has "Speed Burner" in that video? A lot of scout experts know that Orakpo isn't the fastest DE/OLB in the 2009 draft class. I am still picking on you with your stupid prediction, until you've learned about football.

I'd say, go replace "Closing Speed" insteads of "Speed Burner."

I have been seriously considering to make a hard bet with you for the 40's against you, since you're so ignorant with your prediction.

[nflhitman]

Can you please elaborate where you see he has "Speed Burner" in that video? A lot of scout experts know that Orakpo isn't the fastest DE/OLB in the 2009 draft class. I am still picking on you with your stupid prediction, until you've learned about football.

I'd say, go replace "Closing Speed" insteads of "Speed Burner."

I have been seriously considering to make a hard bet with you for the 40's against you, since you're so ignorant with your prediction.

As a DE he has that elite speed to turn the corner and get the QB and closes really well. His 40 time was in range of a Speed Burner DE. At LB he would have zero speed attributes. There are 2 things IMO that qualifies for a speed attribute.

There is Track Speed that is used in the combine and there is Game Speed and thats what Orakpo has. I am sorry if you don't agree but in all those highlights you can see how fast he gets around the corner on the tackle. The biggest knock on him is consistency.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=33734&draftyear=2009&genpos=DE

[PLAYBOY8869]

As a DE he has that elite speed to turn the corner and get the QB and closes really well. His 40 time was in range of a Speed Burner DE. At LB he would have zero speed attributes. There are 2 things IMO that qualifies for a speed attribute.

There is Track Speed that is used in the combine and there is Game Speed and thats what Orakpo has. I am sorry if you don't agree but in all those highlights you can see how fast he gets around the corner on the tackle. The biggest knock on him is consistency.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=33734&draftyear=2009&genpos=DE

According to that link you've posted: 40 Time: 4.73 40 Low: 4.62 40 High: 4.84

That is not the top-notch speed for his position. For the top-notch speeder DE, look at Jevon Kearse as a good example back in his draft day. I've heard he went 4.45 in 40 yards. For a big guy, look at Julius Pepper - 6'6" 285lb that ran 4.55 seconds in 40.

Orakpo is very strong instincted guy, he's not the fast one but fast to react to the ball carrier. That's what "Closing Speed" for.

We will talk about the speed for Orakpo after tomorrow's result.

[zhaoyun707]

According to that link you've posted: 40 Time: 4.73 40 Low: 4.62 40 High: 4.84

That is not the top-notch speed for his position. For the top-notch speeder DE, look at Jevon Kearse as a good example back in his draft day. I've heard he went 4.45 in 40 yards. For a big guy, look at Julius Pepper - 6'6" 285lb that ran 4.55 seconds in 40.

Orakpo is very strong instincted guy, he's not the fast one but fast to react to the ball carrier. That's what "Closing Speed" for.

We will talk about the speed for Orakpo after tomorrow's result.

Closing speed is overpowered IMO... especially for safeties, LBs, and D-linemen. Unrealistic speed sacking the QB and sometimes they are so fast off the edge on rushing the passer that the OT can't keep up and even touch them.

[PLAYBOY8869]

As a DE he has that elite speed to turn the corner and get the QB and closes really well. His 40 time was in range of a Speed Burner DE. At LB he would have zero speed attributes. There are 2 things IMO that qualifies for a speed attribute.

There is Track Speed that is used in the combine and there is Game Speed and thats what Orakpo has. I am sorry if you don't agree but in all those highlights you can see how fast he gets around the corner on the tackle. The biggest knock on him is consistency.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=33734&draftyear=2009&genpos=DE

Orakpo officially runs 4.70 in 40, but he got hamstring tweaked afterward.

[zhaoyun707]

As a DE he has that elite speed to turn the corner and get the QB and closes really well. His 40 time was in range of a Speed Burner DE. At LB he would have zero speed attributes. There are 2 things IMO that qualifies for a speed attribute.

There is Track Speed that is used in the combine and there is Game Speed and thats what Orakpo has. I am sorry if you don't agree but in all those highlights you can see how fast he gets around the corner on the tackle. The biggest knock on him is consistency.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=33734&draftyear=2009&genpos=DE

That what I said, I posted if he was a DE he would speed burner.

DE - Speed Burner, run coverage, pass rush bonus, rip, sack master.
OLB - Run Coverage, Pass Rush Bonus, Strength Bonus, Sack Master.

[nflhitman]

Orakpo officially runs 4.70 in 40, but he got hamstring tweaked afterward.

Even with his injury he had the 3rd fastest time for the 40 in the DL position.

[PLAYBOY8869]

I actually thought Michael Johnson would be the fastest for DE corp and Everette Brown to be 2nd. Now, I see Orakpo is that pretty good in speed. It could make sense that Orakpo should be top rated because he has strength.

[nflhitman]

I actually thought Michael Johnson would be the fastest for DE corp and Everette Brown to be 2nd. Now, I see Orakpo is that pretty good in speed. It could make sense that Orakpo should be top rated because he has strength.

Yea Michael Johnson has a very small frame for being a rush DE in the NFL. I thought he would be the fastest also. Look at his frame. He is a LB playing DE. Johnson will drop really far in the draft simply because at the NFL level his size is too small to play DE and his lack of speed does make it logical for him to play LB because every team will attack him in space if he is a LB.

[Bilbo1]

Rams boy!!!! Eugene Monroe first round, then josh freeman second round.

Eugene Monroe/OT

quick feet
bull dozer
speed burner
stonewall

Josh Freeman/QB

rocket arm
scrambler

[BigM12]

Yea Michael Johnson has a very small frame for being a rush DE in the NFL. I thought he would be the fastest also. Look at his frame. He is a LB playing DE. Johnson will drop really far in the draft simply because at the NFL level his size is too small to play DE and his lack of speed does make it logical for him to play LB because every team will attack him in space if he is a LB.

I think he just needs to add some weight to his frame. He's got the height, he just needs to add more width to his body.

[BigM12]

Rams boy!!!! Eugene Monroe first round, then josh freeman second round.

Eugene Monroe/OT

quick feet
bull dozer
speed burner
stonewall

Josh Freeman/QB

rocket arm
scrambler

Josh Freeman may very well go later in the 1st round. I wouldn't get my hopes up too much.

[Bilbo1]

Josh Freeman may very well go later in the 1st round. I wouldn't get my hopes up too much.

Neither Mel Kiper or Todd McShay have him going in the first round... and Walter Football's mock nfl draft has us taking him in the second round... and even if it doesnt happen i think Rhett Bomar is a big possibility, and id give him the same abilities.

[nflhitman]

I have never been a real big fan fan of Mel Kipers. If you want to see true knowledge of the draft and the players watch NFL Network and Mike Mayock.

[nflhitman]

This section will be for the attributes we all agree with for each player we believe our teams will draft. Lets give every player 5 possible attributes that we can use for later use in NFL leagues. Not saying they would recieve 5 attributes but 5 that could be selected from.

Aaron Curry LB ( Closing Speed, Speed Burner, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus, Run Reader )

Michael Crabtree WR ( Strength Bonus, Acrobatic Catch, TIM, Quick Feet, Deep Threat )

B.J. Raji DT ( Quick Feet, Run Coverage, Pass Rush Bonus, Spin, Bull Rush )

Malcolm Jenkins CB ( Quick Feet, Ball Hawk, Bump Master, Run Coverage, Wrap up Tackler )

Rey Maulaluga ( Run Coverage,Closing Speed,Leadership,Strength,Run Reader )

Brian Orakpo DE (Closing Speed, Pass Rush Bonus, Sack Master, Rip, Strength)

Darrius Heyward-Bey WR (Quick Feet, Speed Burner, Breakaway Burst, Acrobatic Catches)

Chris "Beanie" Well RB (BAB, Quick Feet, Power, Ankle Breaker, Cutback)

Knowshon Moreno RB (BAB, Finesse, Soft Hands, Strength, and something else)

Eugene Monroe OT ( quick feet, bulldozer, speed burner, stonewall )

Josh Freeman QB ( rocket arm, scrambler )

1st rd team predictions:

NFLHITMAN says the Seahawks will draft Malcolm Jenkins CB

Number1killa5 says the Chargers will Draft Rey Maulaluga ILB

Awesome says the redskins will Draft Brian Orakpo DE

Awesome says the Ravens will Draft Darrius Heyward-Bey WR

Scooter says the Broncos will Draft Rey Mauluaga ILB

Scooter says the Saints will Draft Chris Wells RB

Scooter says the Chargers will Draft Knowshon Moreno RB

Bilbo says the Rams will Draft Eugene Monroe OT in 1st rd and Josh Freeman QB in 2nd rd.

[nflhitman]

This section will be for the attributes we all agree with for each player we believe our teams will draft. Lets give every player 5 possible attributes that we can use for later use in NFL leagues. Not saying they would recieve 5 attributes but 5 that could be selected from.

Aaron Curry LB ( Closing Speed, Speed Burner, Quick Feet, Pass Rush Bonus, Run Reader )

Michael Crabtree WR ( Strength Bonus, Acrobatic Catch, TIM, Quick Feet, Deep Threat )

Brian Robiskie WR ( Deep Threat, Hops, BAB, TIM, Possession Receiver )

B.J. Raji DT ( Quick Feet, Run Coverage, Pass Rush Bonus, Spin, Bull Rush )

Malcolm Jenkins CB ( Quick Feet, Ball Hawk, Bump Master, Run Coverage, Wrap up Tackler )

Rey Maulaluga ( Run Coverage,Closing Speed,Leadership,Strength,Run Reader )

Brian Orakpo DE (Closing Speed, Pass Rush Bonus, Sack Master, Rip, Strength)

Darrius Heyward-Bey WR (Quick Feet, Speed Burner, Breakaway Burst, Acrobatic Catches)

Chris "Beanie" Well RB (BAB, Quick Feet, Power, Ankle Breaker, Cutback)

Knowshon Moreno RB (BAB, Finesse, Soft Hands, Strength, and something else)

Eugene Monroe OT ( quick feet, bulldozer, speed burner, stonewall )

Josh Freeman QB ( rocket arm, scrambler )

1st rd team predictions:

NFLHITMAN says the Seahawks will draft Malcolm Jenkins CB in 1st rd.

NFLHITMAN says the Seahawks will draft Brian Robiskie WR in 2nd rd.

Number1killa5 says the Chargers will Draft Rey Maulaluga ILB

Awesome says the redskins will Draft Brian Orakpo DE

Awesome says the Ravens will Draft Darrius Heyward-Bey WR

Scooter says the Broncos will Draft Rey Mauluaga ILB

Scooter says the Saints will Draft Chris Wells RB

Scooter says the Chargers will Draft Knowshon Moreno RB

Bilbo says the Rams will Draft Eugene Monroe OT in 1st rd and Josh Freeman QB in 2nd rd.

Updated who I think the Seahawks will pick in the 2nd rd.

NFLHITMAN says the Seahawks will draft Brian Robiskie WR in 2nd rd.

[Scooter5312]

I changed i THINK THE Eagles will take Beanie and
teh #1 LineBacker James Laurinitaus (Mayock's #1) will go to the Jets or Pats, Abilities
(Closing Speed, Leadership, Coverage, Run Coverage, Big Hit)

[nyknicks33]

I'm HOPING the Jets draft Hakeem Nicks. Tough, good hands, plays bigger then his height, kind of like Chris Chambers, with some wiggle after the catch.

Jets are tough, because they need an athletic LB as well, in the worst way.

I absolutely LOVE USC's Brian Cushing. He's exactly the type of LB the Jets need.

The Draft is deep at WR so I would roll the dice that I can get a quality one in the 2nd rounf, if Cushing is on the board.

[awesome1]

Hitman are you thinking twice about that Malcolm Jenkins pick after his combine performance? Apparently he could fall pretty far.

[zhaoyun707]

Hitman are you thinking twice about that Malcolm Jenkins pick after his combine performance? Apparently he could fall pretty far.

Ronnie Lott ran a 4.5 and he played CB in his first 3 years and he returned 3 INT for TDs!

[awesome1]

Ronnie Lott ran a 4.5 and he played CB in his first 3 years and he returned 3 INT for TDs!

But Malcolm Jenkins is not Ronnie Lott and he got hand-timed in the 4.5 range which, according to Don (Dan?) Banks from Si.com really equates to a low 4.6.

[BigM12]

I changed i THINK THE Eagles will take Beanie and
teh #1 LineBacker James Laurinitaus (Mayock's #1) will go to the Jets or Pats, Abilities
(Closing Speed, Leadership, Coverage, Run Coverage, Big Hit)

Everyone's #1 is Aaron Curry...

[nflhitman]

Hitman are you thinking twice about that Malcolm Jenkins pick after his combine performance? Apparently he could fall pretty far.

No I like Malcolm Jenkins a lot. Think about how much over rated the 40 time is.....

Let me give you a GREAT EXAMPLE :D

The Cardinals Drafted in the 1st RD Bryant Johnson WR based solely on his 40 time.

The Cardinals Drafted Anquan Boldin in 2nd rd base off skill and Boldin had I think a high 4.7 40 yard dash.

Who do you think was a better pick???

Malcolm Jenkins is a Bump Man CB with great coverage skills. There is waayyyy too much stake in the 40 and the Bench Press.

Joe Thomas was no where near the tops in the Bench Press when he got drafted and he is a Pro Bowl Left Tackle.

The Combine is for show and will move some players up the board but when it comes down to it the real question is can he play Smart Football???

[ImBACKK,killah5]

I just saw that they listed Crab at 6'1.....is this some kind of joke? I swear I though he was 6-4 6'3 type of guy. If he's 6'1 he really needs speed. That's one of biggest drop offs in height that I've seen.

[nyknicks33]

I just saw that they listed Crab at 6'1.....is this some kind of joke? I swear I though he was 6-4 6'3 type of guy. If he's 6'1 he really needs speed. That's one of biggest drop offs in height that I've seen.

6'2 1/2" from what I see, but I get your point.

Stud Players in college often look so much more physically imposing when going up against other 19 and 20 yr olds.

He also could be a guy who plays "bigger then his height" which I think is the case.

[nyknicks33]

No I like Malcolm Jenkins a lot. Think about how much over rated the 40 time is.....

Let me give you a GREAT EXAMPLE :D

The Cardinals Drafted in the 1st RD Bryant Johnson WR based solely on his 40 time.

The Cardinals Drafted Anquan Boldin in 2nd rd base off skill and Boldin had I think a high 4.7 40 yard dash.

Who do you think was a better pick???

Malcolm Jenkins is a Bump Man CB with great coverage skills. There is waayyyy too much stake in the 40 and the Bench Press.

Joe Thomas was no where near the tops in the Bench Press when he got drafted and he is a Pro Bowl Left Tackle.

The Combine is for show and will move some players up the board but when it comes down to it the real question is can he play Smart Football???



I dont know Hitman. He could be more of a Ronde Barber type CB, which isnt a bad thing. Ronde is going to be in the HOF. I dont think he is going to be a great "on the island" CB though.

The good thing about Jenkins that I like is that he has good technique and whenever I saw him, he was always around the ball.

Good technique can make up for a .10 in the 40.

A CB can have all of the speed in the world, but sloppy technique will turn him into a Deangelo Hall type: A guy who's physical ability cons people into believing he's better then he really is.

[Tell22]

The combine is really scaring me now because if Stafford drops, the Niners might pick him up......bad bad move

I hope we are sensible and go after B.J Raji/ Jeremy Maclin if they are still there....Kentwan Balmer is a joke and I stil cant belive that we picked him

[nflhitman]

6'2 1/2" from what I see, but I get your point.

Stud Players in college often look so much more physically imposing when going up against other 19 and 20 yr olds.

He also could be a guy who plays "bigger then his height" which I think is the case.

No LOL, Crabtree in College was listed at 6'3" and at the combine his actual height was 6'1" 3/8 LOL.

Seattle wanted a big tough and Healthy WR and he is neither right now. There is no guarantee that his injury won't be an issue. That is the same kind of injury Shaun Alexander had. I Believe because of this they will be gun shy.

[Bilbo1]

Walter Football's nfl draft just updated today. The rams will now take offensive tackle Jason Smith from Baylor in the first round.

[loudiamonds12]

Hitman, I just wanted to thank you for the hard work and ratings for new rookies. Sometime this week I will send a list of possible improvements for a APF 2k10, a game that may never happen. None the less, its features that aren't in 2k8. Thanks for the hard work.

[badasp83]

I don't trust those Mock Drafts.
Almost all of 'em had the Steelers taking an O-linemen in the 1st round last year.
That didn't happen.
The Steelers can usually find quality O-line in the later rounds. :thumbsup:

[awesome1]

I don't trust those Mock Drafts.
Almost all of 'em had the Steelers taking an O-linemen in the 1st round last year.
That didn't happen.
The Steelers can usually find quality O-line in the later rounds. :thumbsup:

Mock Drafts are fun to read but ultimately not very useful. Mel Kiper only got 7 picks right last year and he is one of the best in the business. I really enjoy reading them to get a good idea of what could happen but at the end of the day no one knows what is going to happen on draft day unless you have seen every team's Big Board.

[zhaoyun707]

Mock Drafts are fun to read but ultimately not very useful. Mel Kiper only got 7 picks right last year and he is one of the best in the business. I really enjoy reading them to get a good idea of what could happen but at the end of the day no one knows what is going to happen on draft day unless you have seen every team's Big Board.

Mel Kiper stinks and he is just a business man who just say this guy is the Franchise QB for the Lions. Mike Mayock is way better and more accurate because he gives you them their positive and negatives.

[awesome1]

Mel Kiper stinks and he is just a business man who just say this guy is the Franchise QB for the Lions. Mike Mayock is way better and more accurate because he gives you them their positive and negatives.

Mayock is better but Kiper is still one of the best in the business.

[FootballSchemer]

He is my b!!Tch. :cool: Oh and where has your Seahawks been lately but just have a worst record then the 49ers? Was it embarrassing to lose to a 3rd string FA QB?

Minh I am 100 - 3 against you...

[zhaoyun707]

Minh I am 100 - 3 against you...

Isn't that the otherway around?