View Full Version : Sim Move Chesse or Legit?
JSHORTY2112
February 26th, 2009, 05:04 PM
Is the swim move cheap?
Yes
No
JSHORTY2112
February 26th, 2009, 05:06 PM
I have been told that the swim move is cheap because you can't use it with CAPS but I said you can't use QB Evade and you shouldn't be able to use Scissor Kicks
JSHORTY2112
February 26th, 2009, 05:07 PM
Yes for cheese and No for Legit
budsclass201
February 26th, 2009, 08:13 PM
No. I used to use it with D. Manly a lot. Some games it would work great and other games I could never get through. It's not that hard to counter. If someone is getting through quick with it, dump off to a short route and don't sit in the pocket too long.
Bowdown
February 26th, 2009, 08:20 PM
Only without crackers!!
DonVCorleone
February 27th, 2009, 04:39 AM
its cheese
i cant 'manually counter' it.
been cheese since nfl 2k3
things like this are the reasons why this is NOT a sim forum.
nyknicks33
February 27th, 2009, 05:12 AM
As long as your not DE Twist Glitching, use whatever dang pass rush move your heart desires.
Gunther
February 27th, 2009, 05:26 AM
Just a hint though.... If you're playing on the Dline you will never be worth a *#$@.
Can I beat the computer? Yes I can......
Khan Lives
February 27th, 2009, 06:33 AM
Just a hint though.... If you're playing on the Dline you will never be worth a *#$@.
Can I beat the computer? Yes I can......
Yep................
budsclass201
February 27th, 2009, 06:35 AM
As long as your not DE Twist Glitching, use whatever dang pass rush move your heart desires.
Agree with this 100%. At least with the swim move, club, etc. there is a little time to decide if you want to throw a quick dump off pass, move away from the pressure, qb evade, etc. With that DE twist stunt glitch, they are on you before you can react.
Superbuffundo
February 27th, 2009, 06:41 AM
wow. just wow
budsclass201
February 27th, 2009, 06:59 AM
wow. just wow
That's what she said!
ElGreazy78
February 27th, 2009, 09:20 AM
If you ask me (which no one did) the Swim move is best used by the CPU. I never see a real player manually get as much penetration/production using a Legend with that Ability as the CPU. The D-line is already handicapped in this game, why would this be cheese?
There are easy ways to stop this: leave in a blocker or two (WHAT you say? blocking?), slide your o-line protection, bootlegs & roll-outs, draw plays, dump-offs & screens.
NYG 5
February 28th, 2009, 07:41 AM
if swim move is cheese, then whoring cornerbacks and saefties is cheese too
Valdarez
February 28th, 2009, 09:21 AM
Nothing wrong with playing a DE if you are actually using their moves, and not exploiting line calls (DE Twist Glitch for example). IMHO the ONLY time you benefit from playing the DE / DT position is when you are going up against formation that has no blockers in the backfield. That way if you pull off the move, you have an instant read on the QB.
JSHORTY2112
March 1st, 2009, 03:20 PM
I thought is wasnt cheese unless you do it legitly unlike running from first down to the line