Not done yet! VC took out full editing as well :)

[baandje]

There's a player editing limit this year. Someone on OS posted he got through editing three teams when an alert came up informing him that he reached the editing limit. First batting stances, now this. Nice work, VC! :thumbsup:

[AustinOrgans12]

It's alarming what VC took out of this game. 2K8 is starting to look like a masterpiece.

[puremvp]

shhh, lets downplay all these issues and put a happy go lucky smile on!

[Scott847112]

This is not good. I wanted to hear good things about this game. The Show here we come

[chad0034]

What? A too much editing alert?

[- MLB -]

There's a player editing limit this year. Someone on OS posted he got through editing three teams when an alert came up informing him that he reached the editing limit. First batting stances, now this. Nice work, VC! :thumbsup:

What would be the point of this limit ? Like, why is it there ? Have something to do with the Live Rosters ?

[baandje]

I wanted to hear good things about this game.
Gary Thorne is terrific from what I've heard.

[PIN]

Editing what exactly?

That doesnt make sense to me and I'm sure, being that your going off one guy saying this, that its inaccurate.

Making posts and complaining about the gameplay about how unrealistic it is would make more sense in factoring your decision to getting a different baseball game.

but these whiney little threads need to be cut down big time.

[chad0034]

I still don't get what this editing limit is. Does he have any more info about this? If not, than the point of having 2KShare rosters is pretty much gone this year. No editing stances, or ratings?

[baandje]

What would be the point of this limit ? Like, why is it there ? Have something to do with the Live Rosters ?
Because it's next-gen, and it's tough to program all that stuff, etc, blah. No wait: EA's next-gen FIFA has unlimited editing while the old-gen version didn't...

Apparently, the answer to your question is that VC is taking us back to the Stone Age as far as game content is concerned.

[- MLB -]

Editing what exactly?

Rosters...

[PIN]

Rosters...

Bravo!


Ok lets put it this way..

If you're editing a players name, then your telling me that there is a limit as to how many times you can edit names?

I want you to think long an hard behind that logic and figure in your head how that actually works.


The guy was probably creating players and ran out of space to create more. But editing players like numbers, names, etc etc is nothing more than overwriting the data thats already in place.

It makes no sense that there could be a limit.

Therefore i find this to be bogus

[baandje]

I still don't get what this editing limit is. Does he have any more info about this?
He said he could only edit three teams, meaning maybe 50-100 players, who knows how many exactly. Like I said, last-gen FIFA had an editing limit. You only only edit 42 players I think it was. It's not unheard of. But it is ridiculous VC decided to remove that from the game as well. So much for the power of next-gen

[- MLB -]

Therefore i find this to be bogus


I don't care.

[baandje]

I don't care.
LOL. The guy on OS said he got through EDITING three teams, not CREATING x number of players... just a clarification for the hard-of-reading among us. ;)

[PIN]

Right I read the same thread but didnt feel as compelled as you to post it without having some sort of confirmation.


People will say anything these days to make something else better

EDIT:

And hell, given that this isnt a complaint you can confirm should it even be allowed in here? This is a complaints section.

[redsox071712]

Sweet! No editing stances or deliveries now a set limit on the number of players we can edit! Thanks VC! You really know what we want! LESS options!!!

[DirtyCobra]

lets no jump to conclusions regarding the editing...hopefully someone with the game can confirm what is meant by his article

[kingkong12]

Sweet! No editing stances or deliveries now a set limit on the number of players we can edit! Thanks VC! You really know what we want! LESS options!!!

ya thanks a lot vc for making a terrible game almost WORSE!

[DirtyCobra]

according to the guy on os this is waht he did:

here is what i did..


i only created 3 players

i edited the phillies 3 minor league teams
red sox 3 lminor league teams


and various other prospects...they had a guy that was elvis andrus but was like erik anderson or somthing and when i went to edit another is said the roster edit limit has been reched with this roster......i deleted and am doing another


this is not good news for people who love to edit.....I hope someone can confirm that this is not true......

[ill pill]

Wow, 2k just can't make a good baseball game, can they?

[lsutigers61585]

Whats wrong with it now?

[DrGreene]

This is really disappointing.

[jestep]

I want to know what kind of jobs you guys have where you have all day to sit and edit stances and rosters and blood types etc. Where is it going to end? Next you guys are going to complain because there is no drug testing in the game..and even if there was testing youd be mad because you cant actually watch CC Sabathia **** into a cup. Does anybody here actually PLAY the game when they get it...like..ya know..ON THE FIELD? You guys realize that this kind of stuff is equivalent to playing dress up..right?

There are things even I dont like but I love the game of baseball and I think that 2k has done a great job this year..these things are annoying at worst but its still a great looking game.

[cavs25]

I want to know what kind of jobs you guys have where you have all day to sit and edit stances and rosters and blood types etc. Where is it going to end? Next you guys are going to complain because there is no drug testing in the game..and even if there was testing youd be mad because you cant actually watch CC Sabathia **** into a cup. Does anybody here actually PLAY the game when they get it...like..ya know..ON THE FIELD? You guys realize that this kind of stuff is equivalent to playing dress up..right?

There are things even I dont like but I love the game of baseball and I think that 2k has done a great job this year..these things are annoying at worst but its still a great looking game.

Couldn't say it better myself

[chad0034]

I want to know what kind of jobs you guys have where you have all day to sit and edit stances and rosters and blood types etc. Where is it going to end? Next you guys are going to complain because there is no drug testing in the game..and even if there was testing youd be mad because you cant actually watch CC Sabathia **** into a cup. Does anybody here actually PLAY the game when they get it...like..ya know..ON THE FIELD? You guys realize that this kind of stuff is equivalent to playing dress up..right?

There are things even I dont like but I love the game of baseball and I think that 2k has done a great job this year..these things are annoying at worst but its still a great looking game.

Are you serious? Playing "Dress Up"? Generic stances control about 3/4 of the players in the game. You totally exagerrated everything in your post. Drug Testing? And stances are a part of gameplay, because thats how they stand when you're hitting with them. Its been in the past, and now they just take it out? Why?

The many diehard baseball players care about these features. People who don't usually stare care about the rosters, and stances. It seems like 2K has been heading for the "Pick Up And Play" members with the cards, gameplay, etc. Taking out the stances, rosters, and ability to add Minor League players? Thats way over the top IMO.

[DirtyCobra]

I still don't believe this....lets wait for one of the mods to deny or confirm this

[prana5555]

I want to know what kind of jobs you guys have where you have all day to sit and edit stances and rosters and blood types etc. Where is it going to end? Next you guys are going to complain because there is no drug testing in the game..and even if there was testing youd be mad because you cant actually watch CC Sabathia **** into a cup. Does anybody here actually PLAY the game when they get it...like..ya know..ON THE FIELD? You guys realize that this kind of stuff is equivalent to playing dress up..right?

There are things even I dont like but I love the game of baseball and I think that 2k has done a great job this year..these things are annoying at worst but its still a great looking game.

VERY well said my man! I did not buy 2k9 to play dress up or have the players look exactly like their real-life counterparts! I dont need realism or authentic detail...and I did not buy a 360 for "next-gen" graphics! Why does anyone care if it represents the MLB or not?? Its just a baseball game that plays a good arcade style thats fast and fun. Thats all we need....all those options and things that lots of people enjoy (except you and me bro!) are just a waste of space. Personally, I am psyched to have much less options and be able to get through a game in about 10 minutes...I got a life people, and 2k knows it!

ps
and I dont know why we need all the accurate uniforms and stadiums and stuff too...now that we are on the topic of options and authenticity. Who cares? To me (and you too bro) I would be fine if all the players just looked like the little baserunning icon, as long as it played a fast arcady brand of baseball! Why do we need all these options and stuff? Stupid.

[bubbagump]

Couldn't say it better myself


bravo...too many people feel this game should be "THE SIMS"..but with baseball bats and gloves....as long as the game is lag-free on line...I'll be a happy camper...

[jestep]

Are you serious? Playing "Dress Up"? Generic stances control about 3/4 of the players in the game. You totally exagerrated everything in your post. Drug Testing? And stances are a part of gameplay, because thats how they stand when you're hitting with them. Its been in the past, and now they just take it out? Why?

The many diehard baseball players care about these features. People who don't usually stare care about the rosters, and stances. It seems like 2K has been heading for the "Pick Up And Play" members with the cards, gameplay, etc. Taking out the stances, rosters, and ability to add Minor League players? Thats way over the top IMO.

I sure did exagerrate...to make a point..Seriously, the game hasnt even officially be released and all you read is bash bash bash from 10 players on these boards who want to sit there and do that all day. None of you know the reasoning behind it, or care to consider what the reasoning is.

As far as stances go..I realize that some folks want the game to look as realistic as possible but stances have nothing to do with the actual game on the field..they do not affect the players attributes. This migh have been seen as a cosmetic feature and was taken out to make room for something else (and I am sure if that something else was left out...all the complainers would complain about that too). Do you see what I am getting at...this is a no win for developers..there is no way to make everyone happy. The truth is that it is my belief that the folks who care (or have the time) to edit batting stances are outnumbered by those who just want to play ball. 2K has a marketing department and conducts focus groups. In my view it is naive and simplistic to make a statement like "they didnt care to make a great game."

If you think they are focusing on the pick up and play users then, they probably are. So what does that mean...2k has figured out that most folks dont have all day to comit to playing the game but still want to have an enjoyable baseball experience. Shame on them making an effort to make the game accessible to more people.

[prana5555]

bravo...too many people feel this game should be "THE SIMS"..but with baseball bats and gloves....as long as the game is lag-free on line...I'll be a happy camper...

exactly! As long as the framerate is fixed I dont care that they took out all that customization and option stuff! As long as it has what I want, who cares what other people think or would have liked in the game. Stupid people man....why dont they just like and want the same things we do??? it would make all of this a whole lot easier.

[jestep]

VERY well said my man! I did not buy 2k9 to play dress up or have the players look exactly like their real-life counterparts! I dont need realism or authentic detail...and I did not buy a 360 for "next-gen" graphics! Why does anyone care if it represents the MLB or not?? Its just a baseball game that plays a good arcade style thats fast and fun. Thats all we need....all those options and things that lots of people enjoy (except you and me bro!) are just a waste of space. Personally, I am psyched to have much less options and be able to get through a game in about 10 minutes...I got a life people, and 2k knows it!

ps
and I dont know why we need all the accurate uniforms and stadiums and stuff too...now that we are on the topic of options and authenticity. Who cares? To me (and you too bro) I would be fine if all the players just looked like the little baserunning icon, as long as it played a fast arcady brand of baseball! Why do we need all these options and stuff? Stupid.

IMO, The best baseball game ever was BASES LOADED and that did not have real stadiums, teams, or Uni's.

[prana5555]

IMO, The best baseball game ever was BASES LOADED and that did not have real stadiums, teams, or Uni's.

right, we dont need all this realism junk. I just wanna swing and crush it!
And who cares if other people liked it....they are dumb dumbs

[prana5555]

stances have nothing to do with the actual game on the field..they do not affect the players attributes.

good point man, and luckily this year WE cant affect player attributes either! They took out all that control and editing so we dont mess things up or give pitchers their real pitches and stuff.

[chad0034]

VERY well said my man! I did not buy 2k9 to play dress up or have the players look exactly like their real-life counterparts! I dont need realism or authentic detail...and I did not buy a 360 for "next-gen" graphics! Why does anyone care if it represents the MLB or not?? Its just a baseball game that plays a good arcade style thats fast and fun. Thats all we need....all those options and things that lots of people enjoy (except you and me bro!) are just a waste of space. Personally, I am psyched to have much less options and be able to get through a game in about 10 minutes...I got a life people, and 2k knows it!

ps
and I dont know why we need all the accurate uniforms and stadiums and stuff too...now that we are on the topic of options and authenticity. Who cares? To me (and you too bro) I would be fine if all the players just looked like the little baserunning icon, as long as it played a fast arcady brand of baseball! Why do we need all these options and stuff? Stupid.
i sense a hint of sarcasm?

[prana5555]

i sense a hint of sarcasm?

not really, or not intended....I just know what this game delivers each year, been buying the series all the way through and what I like is that you never know what you will get or what you will lose form it. Its kinda cool to find all the ways and tips and tricks to make it play well each year.

Like last year, I played with online disconnected, all the visual features turned off and with it loaded to my HDD, then some guys suggested playing only 4:00 games with no wind and certain fielding views and it really helped the framerate. Plus I turned off the commentary (which we all know was brutal) and used a slider set from the guys who had spent HOURS figuring how to make the game play more like baseball....i mean, thats pretty cool. What other game offers that?

[chad0034]

No kidding. This has got to be fixed. Hopefully the VC team recognizes that too.

[jeffy777]

No kidding. This has got to be fixed. Hopefully the VC team recognizes that too.

As the great DARKSPACE once said:

Like MLB2K8 Jon Miller booth announcer loves to say: "Things just keeps getting weirder, and weirder"


http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/miller0820.jpg

[DirtyCobra]

According to Crazy Cougar he is looking into it see below....lets wait and see what he comes up with

"CAs I said, I will only EDIT the rosters. Why did he need to create players when he could edit the ones already present. While I admit, 3 is not a large number, maybe that is where the problem is occurring. And maybe the problem is completely valid. Both have yet to be determined."

[prana5555]

man this game is exciting! we dont even have it yet and its already thrilling to see how all these things unfold! Cant wait til Tuesday to see all the stuff thats missing!

[baandje]

The latest update I've read is that the number of player names one can edit is limited. No clarification yet if player rating editing is limited as well.

[disposeablehero]

Epic Fail, sorry, no way to sugercoat, they took out thigns that simply make no sense and are indefensible, fourth year of 2k baseball on CURRENT GEN systems, and we keep going backwards, thank god for the show.

[chad0034]

The lastest update I've read is that the number of player names one can edit is limited. No clarification yet if player rating editing is limited as well.

meaning not too many prospects this year, which is unthinkable for franchise players. I don't understand why they're going through all this trouble with the stances and player editing. They should've used last years system for editing. The stances were already over the top for me, but this is getting crazy now, with no editing prospects. Hopefully we'll see some kind of response later today.

[disposeablehero]

How are people defending taking options away from the sim player? On top of this you have:

Unrealistic arcade Aggressive AI (Crucial to baseball, the pitcher, batter dual)

Undefensible 2009 Collisions, or lack there of, outfielders running through each other, this is something that has been done betetr 5 years ago.

Poor fielding

Animations that look rigid, robotic, jerky, that came form the PS1 era.

Did you see DarkSpace's post with all the other details that make up baseball that are missing in th si game (Online)?

Giving players more control over franchises is always a good thing, what good does it do taking this away? If yuo do not liek it OK, but don't pretend this is not a step back, games have had these things for years, and MANY enoy them.

[DirtySox]

I'm cancelling my preorder until we get more information on this.

Hopefully we can get some clarification sometime today.

[Trevytrev11]

Hehehe, now that I think of it, what's kinda funny is the fact that the game isn't out yet and people are already feeling burned. Not that the complaints aren't valid as I agree that they almost alla are...It's just that, well, the crap hasn't even hit the fan now. I'm guessing that less than 1% of people have even had the chance to get their hands on the game (retail version)....come tomorrow when everyone goes out and buys their copy, it's going ot be Armegeddon on these boards...I do not enevy the mods right now. It's bad enough with just the handful of people that have the game right now.

[dgould112]

Just got a PS3 Because 2KSports has completely lost my faithfulness as a customer. Sorry guys, but the product you are putting out this year is garbage. And how the first trailer even represents what is actual game play should be shunned upon. Great work this year boys! The Show owns you

[PIN]

Just got a PS3 Because 2KSports has completely lost my faithfulness as a customer. Sorry guys, but the product you are putting out this year is garbage. And how the first trailer even represents what is actual game play should be shunned upon. Great work this year boys! The Show owns you

If thats true then congrats on spending 460 plus tax for one game.

[disposeablehero]

Last I checked the PS3 has many games, plus blu-ray..........

[PIN]

Last I checked the PS3 has many games, plus blu-ray..........


Last I read, thats not what he got the PS3 for.


EDIT:

Dont even try turning this into PS3 vs 360 debate. Seems like a lot of people try making it into that.

[- MLB -]

Last I read, thats not what he got the PS3 for.


Who cares what he got it for ? It's his prerogative.

[disposeablehero]

Exactly, PS3 is a great machine, nothing wrong with getting one, geez. He said he got a PS3, but I am sure he will play mroe then one game on it, come on, don't be such a putz.

[cloandmuffin]

Funny how editing players is a major concern for some people I guess the game can't be played if Manny doesn't have his baggy pants or a certain player doesn't have the right color wristband on

[disposeablehero]

Muffin, you blind? There is a list a page long of issues like:

Collisions or lack there of, in 2001 we stopped have outfielders run through each other.

Unrealistic AI at the plate

Pickoff baserunners is successfull way too often

Terrible jerryk animations, which leads to poor fielding.

Features missing online and in franchise which lacks depth

etc.....

What good does it do to take options away from gamers that have been around for years?

[jestep]

Funny how editing players is a major concern for some people I guess the game can't be played if Manny doesn't have his baggy pants or a certain player doesn't have the right color wristband on

Amen..I can easily defend taking options away from a sim player..what was the biggest complaint last year? Framerate...that is fixed this year. If some (cosmetic) things have to go by the wayside to get that done and I am all for it.

Dont get me wrong here..I would also be all for including as many options for all kinds of players as possible..but when its between fixing framerate issues and being able to make sure Jay Bruce's pants dont look too big on him..I (along with most others) choose framerate.

As far as unrealistic batting AI-Maybe I am the lucky one because I dont have that problem. I have struck out several players looking and walked some...IN THE DEMO. Hitters do work the count..if you take the time to mix up your pitches like one of the mods (I think Krunchy) said in another thread.

I stand by my original statement..this is going to be a solid baseball title. It seems like so many sim players get so caught up in what they can and cant do off the field that they do not even concern themselves with the actual gameplay and therefore want to trash the game before they even get it in their hands. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

[CrownOfThorns]

It seems to me that they can put together a patch that will fix most of these problems..the worst being no player collisions!! That's just totally friggin ridiculous..it's 2009 for god's sake..get your s#!t together 2k!!

[Campion]

I think the problem people have is taking a step back. Once a good feature makes it into the game (editing rosters, for example) people become accustomed to it. We expect the next year's version of the game to build on the previous (fix the problems and add new features). Otherwise, why buy a new game each year?

The frame rate needed to be fixed. Some game play issues needed to be addressed. But did that really require eliminating stuff people had already used and enjoyed?

The problem is that Take 2 hired a different developer and for some reason they did not (apparently) build on last year's but tried to start all over from scratch. If the game were completly broken that might make sense. But it wasn't. It just needed some improvements. Imagine how thrilled poeple would be if the minor things were fixed, the graphics fine-tuned, and the new broadcasting team were implemented together with everything in 2K8. This board would be a love fest.

[jestep]

It seems to me that they can put together a patch that will fix most of these problems..the worst being no player collisions!! That's just totally friggin ridiculous..it's 2009 for god's sake..get your s#!t together 2k!!

I do agree with the collsion..thats bad..because that is just unrealistic. That kind of makes it seem like collisions are not even a part of baseball...but editing stances and attributes..who cares. Its not like they ALL have the same stance.

[disposeablehero]

You think people here do not know this? That does not change the fact Ai is WAY to aggressive. May batters take the first pitch no matter what, to avoid being a one pitch out and to work thecounts, you should not jave to nibble corners every single time to get the Ai to take a pitch, many players will take a pitch down the middle for a first strike, or if they were looking for something else. On 3-0 counts, many players will take a pitch, not so in this game. even with nibbling on the corners, CPu is still way to aggressive. Simply not an accurate depiction of the pitcher/batter duel.

MLB 2K9 is simply not a depiction of real baseball when it comes to the pitcher/batter interface, the most crucial to a baseball game I may add, anyone who thinks it does does not know baseball.

[cloandmuffin]

I agree that the AI is a little too aggressive but I got to tell ya I have played the Demo more than a few and I have been able to give up 0 hits and atleast 3 caught looking K's for the majority of the times I have played it. Like the mod guy has said a bunch of times you have to learn how to pitch and read the reports. Also it helps to have a good strikeout pitcher like hamels

Also disposeablehero guy

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they rebuild this game from ground up? Isn't it a different production team? Isn't it better than 2K8 nightmare? They didn't build the great wall over night, give em more than 1 try

[disposeablehero]

Are u serious? This is year 4 from 2k, consumers do not care for excuses when the PS3 has had a very good baseball game since day 1.

[jestep]

yeah also..disposeablehero...dude you have been like the biggest hater on these boards..going through the posts EVERYTIME someone says something positive you are right there with something negative to say. Nothing positive..ever. The pitching and batting is pretty realistic..of course the AI is going to be a little more aggressive on a video game. The concensus is that players dont want to spend all day playing one game and I think that is a fair assumption. With all the negative stuff you come up with it seems you wont be happy until the game is so detailed that it actually takes you 2 and half to 3 hours to get through 9 innings.

I am interested to know 2 things. One, is there ANYTHING that you do like about the game and TWO have you even played anything outside of the demo?

[cloandmuffin]

How crappy would it be if the game actually took 2-3 hours to play? I have played the show as well and I am seeing good and bads with it as well so no game is without faults

[disposeablehero]

yeah also..disposeablehero...dude you have been like the biggest hater on these boards..going through the posts EVERYTIME someone says something positive you are right there with something negative to say. Nothing positive..ever. The pitching and batting is pretty realistic..of course the AI is going to be a little more aggressive on a video game. The concensus is that players dont want to spend all day playing one game and I think that is a fair assumption. With all the negative stuff you come up with it seems you wont be happy until the game is so detailed that it actually takes you 2 and half to 3 hours to get through 9 innings.

I am interested to know 2 things. One, is there ANYTHING that you do like about the game and TWO have you even played anything outside of the demo?


How is that any different then you going around trying to tell people who shiney happy people the game is when it clearly isn't? You think I want the game to be below average? I was hoping and praying it was gonna be great, but, stating facts about the failures makes me a hater, I am glad. I would ratehr be a realist then a blind sheep fanboy, I appreciate thinking for myself. sorry, people have a right to be dissappointed, that does not make someone a hater.

All day playing one game? You can have realistic pithcer/batter duels and still be a decently fast game, the show is widely considered better, and it does this well, so that is a load of crock.

How do you know what the consensus is? most on this forum seem to be dissappointed, and The Show which is way more realistic is considered the superior product, so tell me how that is the consensus.

2 and a half to 3 hours? That is the dumbest thing I have heard. They could have arcade settings for the casual gamer and still have sim like settings, but 2k is all arcade gameplay. excuse me if I have higher standards of what baseball is.

[DirtyCobra]

Are u serious? This is year 4 from 2k, consumers do not care for excuses when the PS3 has had a very good baseball game since day 1.

Take it easy...why are you so frustrated? DON'T BUY THE GAME if you think it is horrible....You should change your name to disposableDIAPERS because you can fill that sponge-like garment up with all the negative verbal diarrhea you spit out. This guy needs some Pepto.

[- MLB -]

Take it easy...why are you so frustrated? DON'T BUY THE GAME if you think it is horrible....You should change your name to disposableDIAPERS because you can fill that sponge-like garment up with all the negative verbal diarrhea you spit out. This guy needs some Pepto.

It isn't his fault the game has obvious flaws.

[disposeablehero]

Take it easy...why are you so frustrated? DON'T BUY THE GAME if you think it is horrible....You should change your name to disposableDIAPERS because you can fill that sponge-like garment up with all the negative verbal diarrhea you spit out. This guy needs some Pepto.

I am fully relaxed, how can you tell how someone is by written words on a forum? All that whining, yet you say I need diapers? Obviously, you have no valid points or anything of intelligence to say, so you have to resort to this mindless dribble, good job.

I am just stating why people are upset with the game, all you are doing is crying like a baby because people are upset, hypocritical of you mentioning diapers when it is obvious you are in desperate need of some. Waaan, Waaan.

Even the mods have been giving the game sub par reviews for a reason.

[THUG-Z12]

After reading the HONEST reviews from the MODERATORS, I will definitely not waste money and get this game, nor will I rent it. (I was disgusted with the demo anyway and how BAD it was.) KRUNCHYBOX's review of this game in the STICKY thread for solely moderators says it all. I must say, GREAT REVIEW!

[chad0034]

ALL we want is three or four major things fixed. The others can hold off for a while IMO.
1) AI Aggresiveness (Sliders seem to not be too effective)
2) Editing Player Batting Stances
3) Roster Editing Limit
4) Cut Scenes in Online Play?

Why are #s 2 and 3 even happening? They were in last years game. 2K taking features out of the game that people really like is becoming typical the past couple seasons. It seems like they announce it as a new feature in the next year, which makes people mad. (EX: Fans grabbing foul balls, etc.)

[chad0034]

That's all YOU want. I want different things:

-Take-out slides
-View opponent's pitch count
-Collision detection
-Fielding balls-off-the-wall glitch fixed

Plus what you've mentioned. I'm sure I'm forgetting things as well. 2K's got a lot of work still to be done.

Yea, I was going to put these also, but I'm pretty sure these won't be added to this years version. The only two I can see possibly being patched is the Fielding glitch, and the pitch count. Collision detection is too hard for a patch, and take out slides also. But I've been looking into a PS3 if they cannot satisfy us with another fix.

[jeffy777]

If they can fix those things, this game would rock.

[EdoubleZ]

If you doubt the game , do not purchase it. Why bother arguing over and over again on the same issues. You have made your statement, why keep going on with it?

[prana5555]

played the demo for a while again last night and now I feel frustrated. its SO close to being a decent game of baseball....such little things (and I do agree they are little) that add up and add up to just make it so hard to really enjoy (unless you want a pick up and play arcade game). Aside from the lack of hit variety, easy pitching, AI aggressiveness, weird outfielder slowing down thing, franchise glitch, lack of roster editing options, inability to play exhibition mode or change the CPU lineups and few odd animation hiccups in the real world environment....the game could be solid.

love the commentary.

Lets hope for a patch to clear all these things up, or at least for this 3-year plan to eventually pan out!

[prana5555]

If you doubt the game , do not purchase it. Why bother arguing over and over again on the same issues. You have made your statement, why keep going on with it?

good point....although, it IS a complaints thread, so I guess it sorta makes sense that guys would want to complain in it. Maybe if you are fed up with reading about the issues and peoples feelings I would suggest just not reading the posts in this forum. Worked for me! I barely even know whats wrong with the game now and will be psyched to drop my $60 tomorrow!

[tahjay]

Worked for me! I barely even know whats wrong with the game now and will be psyched to drop my $60 tomorrow!

Spoken like a true fool

[lemwood2002]

exactly! As long as the framerate is fixed I dont care that they took out all that customization and option stuff! As long as it has what I want, who cares what other people think or would have liked in the game. Stupid people man....why dont they just like and want the same things we do??? it would make all of this a whole lot easier.

well, I am sorry I don't want all my minor leaguers and created players looking the same.. this stuff is huge for franchise gamers.. they have changed where u cant change a prospect pitch number.. the best pitcher in the game doesn't have two pitches.. may have two GOOD pitches, but they have 4 or even 5. just give me control.. why take control away from user.. I love the gameplay but I can't play it without having control in my franchise

[The Crow1ng]

I have bought a baseball, football, and basketball game since 2001. This might be the first time I don't buy a baseball game. I was just about to go to the store this morning and pick it up. Then I read that there are editing limitations.

This may not be a big deal for some, but my favorite thing is to build up prospects and make them superstars. I don't want to do this with fake names, stances, etc. I will give it a week and read on here to see if they are planning on doing anything about it. If not, sadly I will have to give up on baseball this year.

[lemwood2002]

I have bought a baseball, football, and basketball game since 2001. This might be the first time I don't buy a baseball game. I was just about to go to the store this morning and pick it up. Then I read that there are editing limitations.

This may not be a big deal for some, but my favorite thing is to build up prospects and make them superstars. I don't want to do this with fake names, stances, etc. I will give it a week and read on here to see if they are planning on doing anything about it. If not, sadly I will have to give up on baseball this year.

exactly what I am saying