Kobe better have a new/motion captured jumpshot

[scandgolden2417]

Kobe needs a new jumpshot. The one in nba 2k9 is way off.

[oldskool716]

he'll have that and 30-40 auto animations that allow him to score automatically.

[Jonny Pharside]

yea he will

[LocKnLoad818]

he better be perfect. he on the cover of the game boyy.

[thabluprint]

Now i love 2k as much as anybody could love a game. but kobe's shot is better in nba live 09 then it is in 2k9. his shot needs to be more smooth and not so stiff!!!!

[Tekkenlaw]

Cris Paul's shot was way off when he was on the cover and still is.

[thabluprint]

no if u watch cp3 square up in real life it kind of looks like the shot in 2k9

[james1607]

Man this game better live up to our expectations considering the previous games weren't that great (except for 2k7)

[Njake.]

Why does it matter what his jumpshot looks like? Everyone online just runs around and dunks it with him...

[CASE FILE 24]

Why does it matter what his jumpshot looks like? Everyone online just runs around and dunks it with him...
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[underated_pg16]

I didn't mind his current jump shot, I guess I got used to it. But they should add in his spin fake turnaround fadeaway.

[oldskool716]

Cris Paul's shot was way off when he was on the cover and still is.

that's kind of weird considering they motion capped his jumpshot and ft shot.

[X FlA$H X]

They should fix his shot. Also they need 2 fix Michael Redds shot its so wierd!!

[rocboyz101]

Why does it matter what his jumpshot looks like? Everyone online just runs around and dunks it with him...

Maybe not everyone plays like that...

[Jonny Pharside]

ya lol we all dont try to run in circles and dunk

[Jonny Pharside]

They should fix his shot. Also they need 2 fix Michael Redds shot its so wierd!!

michael redd's shot is hella not fresh!

he just doesn't shoot like that, nba live 2005 had his shot better then it is now in either games, live 09, nba 09 and, nba 2k9

[Ivan/#4\Boboshko]

michael redd's shot is hella not fresh!

he just doesn't shoot like that, nba live 2005 had his shot better then it is now in either games, live 09, nba 09 and, nba 2k9

I don't understand y this is...if they get the shot right, y change it the next year?

[Rocket Legend]

i think they will make his jumpshot mid range up to 97 next year. It might not be in paper but i got a feeling KOBE will be a god in 2k10!! Makers will look at every series. Battier covering him all day is nothing.


so that means if there is one man in front of him, JUST TAKE a jumpshot all day long!!!

[M-V-3]

Kobe needs a new jumpshot. The one in nba 2k9 is way off.

I agree. They need to look at some games & motion capture his jumper for 2k10. On 2k9 he doesn't even follow through with his J.

[Jonny Pharside]

i think they will make his jumpshot mid range up to 97 next year. It might not be in paper but i got a feeling KOBE will be a god in 2k10!! Makers will look at every series. Battier covering him all day is nothing.


so that means if there is one man in front of him, JUST TAKE a jumpshot all day long!!!

woo! the red jacket

[STLRams12]

Well hopefully for 2K10 the gameplay and A.I. will be more jump shot orientated than just driving and dunking. This is basically Kobe's game, dissecting a defense, midrange jumpers and shots of the dribble, I want NBA2k10 to be basically the same way, a SIM game that forces you to rotate the ball around on offense and look for the best shot or jump shot, not driving and dunking every play. KG had some input in NBA2K9, I wonder what input will Kobe have in NBA2K10, Kobe's pretty offense and defense savy, and know's his stuff.

[Sharpshooter23]

They better get his jumper right or i will kill myself

[LocKnLoad818]

nba live 09 has his jumpshot perfectly. thats the only thing that nba live beats in 2k. also the music and the servers.

[fosdos47]

They better get his jumper right or i will kill myself

hahaha im not goin that far but i will be highly ****ed if they screw it up. my guess is they will bring him in and by the time they are done with him HOPEFULLY you will be able to play just like kobe, if this is true then theyv got my 60 bucks automatically, plus he will be absolutely unstoppable.

[Ralez]

Kobe has 1 of the smoothest jumpshots of all time, 2k9 was way 2 stiff, and live made kobe's feet go all to the left when he shot kinda looked jacked. Def. need to make kobe's fadeaway cuz 2k9 made kobe's fadeaway so garbage and sumtimes he'll just jump back 2-3 inches without really jumping and get his fadeaway blocked every time. If i can feel like kobe with his real moves when 2k10 comes out that would be 2 me my favorite basketball game ever cuz no game has done yet.

[HiNRoseCity]

are you joking guy? pretty much 99% of the shot animations in 2k9 are wayyyyy the **** off..ray allens and o.j. mayos most notably......but kobes..kobes is one of the most accurate in the whole game...and most people who play the game agree


yeah, it might not be all that accurate..but it is certaintly one of the more accurate animations in the entire game....and you obviously don't feel that way if you are singling out kobe...

[KiNgS rInGs]

nba live usually has all the jumpshots all on cue but 2k is just better thats wat sucks lol

sharpshooter23 u mite as well kill urself rite now lol

[teebone21]

are you joking guy? pretty much 99% of the shot animations in 2k9 are wayyyyy the **** off..ray allens and o.j. mayos most notably......but kobes..kobes is one of the most accurate in the whole game...and most people who play the game agree


yeah, it might not be all that accurate..but it is certaintly one of the more accurate animations in the entire game....and you obviously don't feel that way if you are singling out kobe...

that istn kobes form play live 09 they have it perfect. Kobes 2k9 form is a college hoops
2k8 preset sig form

[HiNRoseCity]

woo! the red jacket

very few people follow through....why is nobody else mentioning this? why is the lack of follow through about kobe..and not about the entire game..very few people follow through on 2k9....i made a whole thread about it...some of you guys are a little to involved with the guy i think...

[HiNRoseCity]

very few people follow through....why is nobody else mentioning this? why is the lack of follow through about kobe..and not about the entire game..very few people follow through on 2k9....i made a whole thread about it...some of you guys are a little to involved with the guy i think...



nobodies form is accurate on 2k9...anbd most..are way less acurate then kobes....kobes jumpshot animation is atleast somewhat accurate untill the release of the ball

yall are weird....do you just pay attention to kobe? how come nobody seems to understand the lack of accurate form and jump shots and follow through.....isn't a kobe issue...it's an entire game issue...and kobes is one of the better ones

[teebone21]

ive seen kobe play in the toyota center , 2k9 form is all messed up.

[rocboyz101]

Kobes jumper in 2k is fugly...and you can't just pop up with it like he does IRL.

[HiNRoseCity]

hahahaha....yall are hopeless...i swear

[TheMaskOfZero]

2K didn't change Kevin Garnett's incorrect signature jump-shot last year when he was on the cover. Why would they change Kobe Bryant's incorrect jumper?

/apathetic 2K supporter

[LocKnLoad818]

because there has been a lot of compliants for kobes jumpshot.

[HiNRoseCity]

it's kind of pathetic that you guys only notice kobes....or feel kobes is one of the worst and needs to be mentioned above all

[Baltimorejoe88]

Alot of shots are off on this game

Iverson
Carmelo
Ray Allen
Billups
Garnett
Redd

[V!n$an!+y]

^^Add Vince Carter to that list.

[Xboxing2006]

If Kobe had his real jumpshot and the 95-99 SIT rating that he deserves he would never miss. He would make 80% of his jumpers. His close rating should be lowered but still if Kobe had an SIT of 97 with his real jumpshot he would be ridiculous. Soooo if Kobe gets a boots the shooting needs to get turned down.

[HiNRoseCity]

i disagree...i think players with better shooting...ie...kobe...ray allen...rip hamilton..so on and so forth...should have more realistic animations first and formost...but should have more difficult shots to master....but more rewarding....i don't like the idea of people who don't really know how to play...shooting with ray allen just because he has a higher chance of making it...i like the idea of players having to learn how to shoot with players..in order to use them more effectively....like i said..harder to use..but more rewarding when figured out...also....a lot of players can shoot the ball well...off dribble..catch and shoot..fadeaway...turn arounds....the list goes on...however...theres a much smaller handful of players who, when they get hot.....you actually end up shocked when they miss a shot....this impacts kobe, more then 99% of the nba...if you are using kobe appropriately...and have his shot figured out well enough to knock down some shots...i should be confident that if i size up a player 3 feet behind the 3 point line...maybe do a jab step or a pump fake...and i shoot the ball with kobes perfect release..or great release...that the ball is going in...it shouldn't be guaranteed..but much more likely....too many times in 2k9 i've seen good shooters get their bars glowing red...and they miss the next shot..it doesn't matter if it's wide open...it still happens way too often...i would like to see a better heat system...it's gameplay like that..that would force defenders to either put their best defender on kobe...or resort to double teaming him if he catches the ball....thus opening up another player, forcing the rest of your defense to have better rotation and awareness.....a feature like that will only contribute to a more accurate game offensively...and more importantly..defensively...

by the way,...kobe..and the small list of players that this would impact greatly...should be able to do this from anywhere on the court within range..not just the 3 point line..that was just an example because i've seen kobe do what i mentioned countless times..and he seems to be the main topic of discussion

[HiNRoseCity]

Alot of shots are off on this game

Iverson
Carmelo
Ray Allen
Billups
Garnett
Redd


iversons is decent...carmelos is decent..ray allens is terrible...billups is decent..one of the more accurate in the game..garnetts is...less accurate then iversons, carmellos and billups..but it's better then allens...and many others...and i havn't played with michael redd too much.

You guys are greedy i think...you want the household name guys to be perfect....but yet you don't acknowledge the less popular players.....the shot animations are booboo all the way around..but just about all of you are naming guys who actually have more accurate shooting animations then 90% of the players in the game...i would rather have close to every player in the game..have a somewhat accurate shot..then a handful of superstars who's animations are fairly accurate..and the rest of the guys shoot like they've never played basketball...

theres so many nba players who have textbook form and follow through......yet their animations....are terrible..absolutely terrible...oj mayos is the best example i can think of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBruH8mfe3M

it's not the best quality..but you can get a good idea of his shooting form in this video...

try playing with him...he doesn't have his elbow in on the game..he dowsn't have his arms at 45 degrees...he doesn't follow through..whatso ever...oj mayos jumper in 2k9 looks more likely joakim noahs free throw shooting in real life...it's pathetic.


but i believe the biggest part about making shot animations more realistic...is follow through..putting the hand in the cookie jar..getting those fingers to point towards the ground....and not towards the ceiling as if they are shooting a 24 foot floater..that alone would make for much prettier jumpers..and more accurate animations...and this has been a problem since the beginning of time.in all basketball games..and i'm not sure why...because i know they can have a pretty decent follow through...look at t-macs follow through on 2k9...that's one of my favorites to use simply because of the follow through.

[TheMaskOfZero]

because there has been a lot of compliants for kobes jumpshot.

Kobe has had the same jump-shot in 2K for two seasons now (if I remember correctly). I'm sure people complained about it last season and they didn't change it. Why would they do it now? The answer isn't - "because he's on the cover" because, as I said, Garnett was on the cover last year and they didn't do a thing to his signature jumper.

With regards to who needs to have their sig jumpshot changed, here's a list of the most important....

Tim Duncan
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Garnett
LeBron James
Paul Pierce
Ray Allen
Dirk Nowitzki
Carlos Boozer
Allen Iverson
Manu Ginobili
Tony Parker
Joe Johnson
Josh Smith
Jason Terry
Carmelo Anthony
Chauncey Billups
Tracy McGrady
Yao Ming
Danny Granger
Pau Gasol
Andrew Bynum
Michael Redd
Vince Carter
David West
Hedo Turkoglu
Rashard Lewis
Jameer Nelson
Andre Iguodala
Elton Brand
LaMarcus Aldridge
Kevin Martin
Chris Bosh
Gilbert Arenas
Caron Butler

If it seems like I just named most of the stars in the NBA, that's because I just named most of the stars in the NBA. I feel like 2K has done a rather poor job in improving their signature jump-shots from past seasons to the current. It's pretty inexcusable, in my opinion, to have premier players without their own signature jumper. For example, Chauncey Billups, Paul Pierce and Andre Iguodala all have the same sig shot, yet, we all know that each of them shoots much differently than the other. I also find it inexcusable that a guy like Carlos Boozer has a freaking generic shot? And Duncan, one of the, if not the greatest power forwards to ever play the game, can't get a shot that looks remotely like his real shot? These are the things about 2K that bug me.

[X FlA$H X]

^^^ Thats 2 many ppl they cant change all of them

[HiNRoseCity]

lmao @ changing bynums jump shot...

that is absolutely absurd.

other then that...pretty good list

[tjs1205]

i really hate how easy it is to pick up the sticks and play with kobe or lebron...they are the best, but people abuse them online...but i digress...i just think Kobe's arc should be flatter next year...he has almost no arc on his jumpers in real life...

[Xboxing2006]

Aldridge's shot is fine, its his post package thats messed up. He should not have the 'athletic' post package. He should have the 'hands up' package.

[Xboxing2006]

i disagree...i think players with better shooting...ie...kobe...ray allen...rip hamilton..so on and so forth...should have more realistic animations first and formost...but should have more difficult shots to master....but more rewarding....i don't like the idea of people who don't really know how to play...shooting with ray allen

There are players with better shots than Kobe in a game of horse etc etc. I'm not even saying he deserves more than a 91 in med and there arent about 5-10 players who deserve better... but if you gave him the height and quickness of his realease combined with the SIT rating he deserves he would shoot twice as well in the game than he does in real life because the shooting is so juiced in ranked games. "Mo" Williams will kill you off the dribble. Heck I have seen Josh Howard go nuts off the dribble. You give Kobe his real jumpshot and he is shooting 75% off the dribble easy. In real life he makes 43% of his jumpers sooooo the shooting sliders need a tweaking.

[KING TASHER]

mayne **** kobe get off his ****

[TheMaskOfZero]

lmao @ changing bynums jump shot...

that is absolutely absurd.

other then that...pretty good list

35% of Bynum's shots are jumpers. He has a quasi-distinctive jumper (keeps it high, little vertical). It's not absolutely imperative that they change his but considering he's going to be a very good player in the future, it would be a good idea to give him a sig shot.

All in my opinion, of course.

[Clutch Theory]

Realistically.. speed up Kobe's jumper and he will have perfect form.

[kobe8ryant24]

i don't like how the arms set up in his shot...and how he brings it from way down all the way up...very slowly...

[Clutch Theory]

It would be funny if they slowed down his jump shot even more :D.

Give him LeBron's jumpshot to make everybody mad. Or give him Ray Allen's to make everybody thank god.

[Rene]

Give him LeBron's jumpshot to make everybody mad. Or give him Ray Allen's to make everybody thank god.
Sounds good; I think they should make Kobe's release a total of 5 full seconds to pull off.

[HiNRoseCity]

There are players with better shots than Kobe in a game of horse etc etc. I'm not even saying he deserves more than a 91 in med and there arent about 5-10 players who deserve better... but if you gave him the height and quickness of his realease combined with the SIT rating he deserves he would shoot twice as well in the game than he does in real life because the shooting is so juiced in ranked games. "Mo" Williams will kill you off the dribble. Heck I have seen Josh Howard go nuts off the dribble. You give Kobe his real jumpshot and he is shooting 75% off the dribble easy. In real life he makes 43% of his jumpers sooooo the shooting sliders need a tweaking.

word, i agree with the sliders needing to be tweaked...i'm sure 2k will hash a lot of this ish out in the future...or atleast i'm hopeful

[dragonsruleme]

It's not gonna happen, it'll be like KG with no new animations. He is above doing that, the cover's plenty for 2K.

[HiNRoseCity]

35% of Bynum's shots are jumpers. He has a quasi-distinctive jumper (keeps it high, little vertical). It's not absolutely imperative that they change his but considering he's going to be a very good player in the future, it would be a good idea to give him a sig shot.

All in my opinion, of course.

yeah...i understand what you're getting at....and i don't disagree...i just think..it would be better to work on the blatant issues of shot animations being innacurate...then worrying about every players animation...besides...you know how people do...most the people who we play online...or who pick up the controller..arn't going to be shooting jumpers with their center...some will...that some being those that understand the game of basketball..and the game of 2k basketball...but i don't feel like enough people would take advantage of his jump shot to make it worthy of improvement...that being said...they just need to fix all of it...period...theres no reason why they can't atleast get somewhat close to a players jumper by just watching game film...no reason at all

[Big Baby Jesus]

You guys whine alot. Next thing you know you'll asking for 2k to give kobe wings and laser beams.

[Ivan/#4\Boboshko]

You guys whine alot. Next thing you know you'll asking for 2k to give kobe wings and laser beams.

if you don't whine, nothing will change, it's the nly way we can get our ideas to 2k sports, by saying one thing a hundred times

[sunsfan4lyf]

yea...make kobe's jumpshot flow a little more...make all the jumpshots quicker....add jumpshot templates..like three shooting forms for every player...a fade form, wide open jumper form, and contested shot form...do this and this game will sell more than it ever has done

[Ivan/#4\Boboshko]

yea...make kobe's jumpshot flow a little more...make all the jumpshots quicker....add jumpshot templates..like three shooting forms for every player...a fade form, wide open jumper form, and contested shot form...do this and this game will sell more than it ever has done

yeah, but then make the blocking reactions faster... otherwise the shots will be impossible to block...

[VUUAASSHHH!]

It`s pretty simple to settle that. Just assign MJ`s jumpshot to Kobe.

[Big Baby Jesus]

if you don't whine, nothing will change, it's the nly way we can get our ideas to 2k sports, by saying one thing a hundred times

Whether they fix kobe's jumpshot or not you guys are still gonna buy the game. So what's the point of whining over this little detail?

[kjeebs9]

i think they will make his jumpshot mid range up to 97 next year. It might not be in paper but i got a feeling KOBE will be a god in 2k10!! Makers will look at every series. Battier covering him all day is nothing.


so that means if there is one man in front of him, JUST TAKE a jumpshot all day long!!!

This is the part people just will never understand. Kobe is a awesome med range shooter. who is rated 89 in this game. But many feel as though it should be higher because of the likes of Dirk who was rating of 94 (or something like that).....There are 2 reason why Kobe's mid is not as high as Dirk's. The first reason is because of SIT and SOD rating Kobe's rating are waaaay higher than Dirks. Second is Kobe doesn't not live and die by the mid range jump shot. Dirk does. Kobe can drive it. pull up for a 3.

edit: also....I mean no matter what happens here. People will complain. I feel as though this is the same situation as Ray Allen sig shot which was slow. But looked perfect. I think the same goes for Kobe here.

BY the way CP3 sig shot is money. Its all about setting your player up to get their shot.

[Scooby803]

They most likely will give him a new shot

[Xboxing2006]

Dirk should have at least 5 points on Kobe in med. He scores more from med range and shoots a better percentage. Its not really that close either.

[Mr.Clutch_Knicks12]

They better revamp the jumper, and how he looks. Its not bad, but they could do a whole lot better, than what they showed in 2k8/9...

http://e.imagehost.org/0034/KOBE_darker_uniform.jpg