Best PG in the Country

[TheGameShutDown]

...we can just narrow it down to the ACC, can't we?

Felton
Gilchrist
Paul
Jack

Choose! Who would you build your team on, given the choice.

In all bias, I'm going to go with Gilchrist, simply because of what I've seen from him this year. The man is unstoppable, and clearly, in my opinion, the best scorer of the four. He just scores at will when he wants to and will not let his team lose.

[AIRjordan23]

chirs paul or felton i dunno i love both teams and both players. I guess paul.

[illiniman]

Dee Brown

[AIRjordan23]

Dee Brown

dee brown is a good pg but not as good as felton or paul.

[arnie71488]

maybe Shakur from Arizona or Paul from Wake

[KILLA BEE10]

i'd say paul.

[AIRjordan23]

mcnamera is up there with them.

[7 National Championships]

I would build a team around Rajon Rondo

[KRS-One]

I'd take Gilchrist over all of them any day.

He can score at will as mentioned before, can thread the needle like Magic in his...not prime. And is a great leader for the Terps.

[krzyzewskisucks]

for the best scorer of the 3? I'd take Paul, Gilchrist has been unreliable but he did get 20 against GW in a losing effort? Now, if I had other teammates that could score and I didn't rely on my PG for points, I'd take Felton, he is the best at his position, Paul and Gilchrist could be 2 guards, but Felton could not be, he is a pure point guard and the best at it. I know u know I am a UNC fan but this is totally unbiased.

[remogunz]

Sorry I would take Miles from kansas I think he is a good team leader

[hairboy123]

ewing from duke had 29 points last night and 8 assist he took ova the pg spot since duhon ids gone

[krzyzewskisucks]

1. Duhon was overrated
2. Ewing isnt even a point guard technically
3. Who do you think is the best? You're a Duke fan I see since youve been bashing me and calling me a bandwagoner (wth??) but Ewing ain't a PG, hes a SG/SF. Dockery is ya'lls true point.

Again I'd say for a PG I'd take Felton, hes the best pure PG
And 7 national champions, in 2 years I'd build a team around Rondo, right now only some team like Stephen F. Austin would try to build a team around a kid that immature and young, no offense, cuz Rondo will be incredible

[Maddox2Doehring]

Carl Krauser

[7 National Championships]

Rondo has already had a positive impact for the cats this year. He has 17 steals this year through 5 games. He also deflects every pass that comes near him if he cant pick it.

Rondo is the BEST freshman point guard in the country and I WOULD build my team around him.

Stephen F. Austin would be the only college to build a team around Rondo?Are you saying that you wouldnt like your backcourt down in chapel hill to consist of Felton and Rondo? Thats what I thought.

[kirkangil]

Raymond Felton.

That kid drop's dime's.

[krzyzewskisucks]

I'd much rather have my backcourt be Felton and McCants than Felton and Rondo, so would every other Division 1 coach, I said RIGHT NOW no one would want to build their team around him, give him a year or two. But everyone I know (even Duke fans) would take Felton and McCants over Rondo and Azubuike

[7 National Championships]

You would move McCants over to the 3.

Azubuike plays the 3 as well. Sparks and Rondo are our starting guards

[krzyzewskisucks]

we dont have a starting 2 guard, our one and 2 is felton and mccants, besides, rondo doesnt even average the most assists on his team

[7 National Championships]

I know... Sparks does. Sparks and Rondo alternate at the point through out the game.

I would consider McCants your starting 2 guard. Manuel starts at the 3 doesnt he? That would make McCants your 2.

[krzyzewskisucks]

yes, mccants starts at 2, but hes not a 2 guard, hes a 3, none of our starters are a true 2 guard, thats what I was saying

[7 National Championships]

Well wouldnt you agree that that would hurt more than help McCants NBA chances. A 6'4 (but probably an inch or two shorter) small forward!?

[remogunz]

If I cant take Miles I would take McCants he plays better d then Ewing our Paul

[krzyzewskisucks]

it might hurt it a little bit but McCants is so good that a lil bit of hurtin wont hurt how high he goes in the draft, hes definetly a lottery

[7 National Championships]

he will turn out like Dajuan Wagner... I will say that now.

Both are in the 6'3, 200 range. Both were unbelievable scorers in college. Both were too small to play SG at the next level but didnt have the mentality or floor vision to play the point. The list goes on and on

Read my next post for more

[7 National Championships]

These analysis are taken from an NBA draft site. I wont post which one is for who... but look at the similarities. I also have edited things out that will give away the identity of the player talked about.
1.
Strengths: Very smooth, athletic guard with an amazing feel for the game. Takes over games. Can get hot and bury an opposing team with his offensive prowess. Has a diverse offensive game with three pointers, intermediate jumpers, and a quick first step to take his man off the dribble. A player with great scoring instincts. Makes great decisions and passes the ball extremely well for a shooting guard. Has excellent quickness and terrific speed running the floor. Can easily gain separation on a defender in the open court. Handles the ball very well, and is adept at creating off the dribble. Has good lateral quickness and foot speed defensively.

Weaknesses: Undersized 2-guard. Just a shade over 6-3, but plays bigger than his size with long arms and great leaping ability. Still at 6-3, he will struggle to an extent guarding and getting easy looks over 6-6 players night in and night out on the next level. Probably doesn't have the instincts to be a NBA PG. Has the talent to overcome the height deficiency, but remember how others in his position have looked. [Insert Player name here] is a more explosive and quicker athlete than [Insert player name here], so he will likely make a better pro, however college stars don't always translate on the next level, especially ones a few inches short for their positions. Will need to improve some defensively, as guarding college guys is much easier than pros.

[7 National Championships]

2.

Strengths: Ultra-dynamic scorer. Has less quickness than some NBA 2 guards, but more strength. Has good explosiveness, and gets great extension on his jumpshots. Scores virtually at will, has been very effective at the college level making the transition seem effortless. Amazing handles and one on one skills. Can break down opponents off the dribble and score in a variety of ways. Has superstar potential. Has super intangibles and court awareness. Never seems to get rattled.

Weaknesses: Defensively he needs a lot of improvement. Still seems to be perfecting the matador defense, but with more desire and intensity can become an excellent defender. Has gotten a lot better about getting teammates involved and knowing when to take shots but still gets labeled a ballhog at times. Undersized, a combo guard. Could play the point, his strengths will be best utilized at the 2 position. Listed at 6-3.

Notes: Has sick scoring ability. Has power to his game. Feathery touch from outside. Capable of scoring at will and at times does. Just 6-3 but with great strength and explosiveness, knows how to score against bigger players. Similar to Iverson in his ability to take over a game offensively. As his friend Allen Iverson put it - "Little brotha, you got game".

[krzyzewskisucks]

the difference is Wagner was a sick scorer in C-USA, McCants is a sick scorer in the ACC, I fail to see the comparison.....

[7 National Championships]

you are missing my point. Look at the 2 scouting reports. Regaurdless of who did what against who... their reports are the EXACT SAME. Scouts see them as the same player as do I.

[remogunz]

you are missing my point. Look at the 2 scouting reports. Regaurdless of who did what against who... their reports are the EXACT SAME. Scouts see them as the same player as do I.


scout reports r always wrong I remember another guard from UNC and scouts said back then this guard could never make his team better and he went on and won 6 rings and is still one of the best players ever

[7 National Championships]

Sure scouting reports are wrong. That is what I am saying. I am comparing McCants' potential NBA career to that of Dajuan Wagner. Both were incredible scorers in HS and college. Both got rave reports from the scouts.... When I watch McCants play it looks like Dajuan Wagner in college all over again.

[remogunz]

Sure scouting reports are wrong. That is what I am saying. I am comparing McCants' potential NBA career to that of Dajuan Wagner. Both were incredible scorers in HS and college. Both got rave reports from the scouts.... When I watch McCants play it looks like Dajuan Wagner in college all over again.



mybad I misunderstood you :( and yeah I do agree what your saying but it will come done to playing time for McCants

[krzyzewskisucks]

well so far, McCants is doing much better in college than Wagner was...

[remogunz]

well so far, McCants is doing much better in college than Wagner was...



I agree with that and i also think McCants has a higher basketball IQ then Wagner does are every will

[7 National Championships]

Right now... after 3 years he is. Wagner was in college for one.

[krzyzewskisucks]

McCants also shines in the much more difficult conference of the ACC, rather than the C-USA

[7 National Championships]

yes he does well in the ACC.... keep in mind that Wagner was really the only player on his team that year so opposing defenses could key soley on him.... he still scored 21 a game. He also had the skill to leave after his frosh year... something McCants did not have.

If Wager had 3 years in college it is my opinion that he would be the better player. He is just as quick as McCants, but is more explosive... again, my opinion. Wagner also has a great jumpshot, he just has HORRIBLE shot selection. He will chuck it up with 4 guys on him. 2 more years of college would have corrected that.

P.S. Players like Shaq shined in the SEC that in '92 had a 22-9 UK team and Arkansas as the only contenders.

Chris Webber shined in the Big 10 that had Indiana as the only other contender.

Kenyon Martin shined in the C-USA with only UofL as an actual team.

And then Jason Kidd shined at Cal in the PAC-10

The conference doesnt really matter.

[krzyzewskisucks]

And McCants shines in the conference that only has Wake Forest
and Georgia Tech
and Duke
and Maryland
and Nc State
and Virginia.....

Trust me bub, Ed McCants (no relation) shines at Milwaukee Wisconsin, averages like 23 points, and is preseason POTY for his conference, but he won't even be in the NBA draft, the conference DUZ matter, besides dont give me crap that all the defenses zeroed in on Wagner, thats just plain bull out of the butt

[OSUmike03]

I know I am peddling in my own mischief here, but did someone say McCants wasn't good?

Umm...put the crack pipe down. Anyone who doesn't see how good he is, or how much he means to that team is just nuts. It's too bad UNC didn't keep JamesOn Curry....he is one hell of a player. He will fit in very nicely here at OSU. I'll take anyone who puts up 41 points a game in high school, breaks every record in NC imaginable, and was in the top 10 recruits in the nation anyday...

[krzyzewskisucks]

Curry wasn't in the top 10 recruits in the nation......

Top 10 were
Dwight Howard
Shaun Livingston
Al Jefferson
Rudy ***
Josh Smith
Robert Swift
Marvin Williams
Randolph Morris
Sebastian Telfair
Malik Hairston

JamesOn wasn't even in the top 80 recruits........

try this link
http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2004&pid=88

so before telling me to go play in the park, learn that you don't know as much about college B-ball as I do, heck you weren't even close on that last statistic

[7 National Championships]

And McCants shines in the conference that only has Wake Forest
and Georgia Tech
and Duke
and Maryland
and Nc State
and Virginia.....


You are missing the point. I listed all of those players that were great in conferences with no talent and are now NBA stars. Just because you are in a bad conference doesnt mean you dont have talent(which is basically what you are saying about Wagner). That is all I am saying.

[krzyzewskisucks]

yes u named about 5 that were in bad conferences that are NBA stars, but look at how many more are in good conferences that are NBA stars.

My good conferences are
Big 12
Big 10
ACC
SEC
Big East
Pac-10 (most of the time)

Vince Carter
Antawn Jamison
Jerry Stackhouse
Paul Pierce
Allen Iverson
Shaq-he was in a very talented conference unlike what u said
Carmelo
Rasheed Wallace
Rip Hamilton
Stephon Marbury
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Elgin Baylor
Bill Walton
Michael Jordan
Billy Cunningham
Patrick Ewing
James Worthy
Alonzo Mourning
Elton Brand
Emeka Okafor (possibly)
Bill Lambieer
Jamal Mashburn
Jamaal Magloire
Baron Davis
Dominique Wilkins

[7 National Championships]

I was just giving an example.... I didnt take time to list more.

However, I wouldnt EVER consider the Pac-10 a good basketball conference... they have Arizona as a consistent competitor and thats it.

The Big 10 is a football conference and always will be. Indiana is the only consistent basketball team.

The SEC is 1992 was NOT very competitive. The cats made the elite 8 that year and Arkansas was tough as usual... but thats it. Same goes in 1993 when Mashburn left UK.

So again... Lew Alcindor, Bill Walton... all those old UCLA players... they were NOT in a tough conference yet they dominated in college and did the same in the NBA.

[krzyzewskisucks]

well, we can go down to the hizzy fizzy on every single conference and who was competitive in which way and waht conference was better, but ever you have to admit OVERALL more NBA stars have come from tough college places rather than easy ones.

[7 National Championships]

UNC and UK are 1 and 2 when it comes to players in the NBA. I still dont think the conference has to do with anything. The SEC is a football conference yet the cats are a basketball powerhouse. I will agree and say on average the ACC is the better conference... but the cats have just as many NBA players.

[krzyzewskisucks]

while the SEC is a football conference, it is also a great basketball conference, Florida, Kentucky, Missississippi State, Alabama, just cuz its known for football doesnt mean its bad at basketball,

The simple rule is

The better competition you play, the better you'll become. You can bet that Randolph Morris or Joe Crawford didn't build up their reputation by doing good against pansy teams (like Duke does)

[7 National Championships]

I agree with you. Playing good competition DOES make you better. However we go back to the topic that was just because you are in a bad conference doesnt make you a bad player.

[krzyzewskisucks]

true, but u never know ur real worth until u play against real competition.

Jason Kidd
Shaq
and uhhhhh whoever else u mentioned (its 12 AM)
found their real worth

[bats1980]

Nate Robinson should atleast be mentioned..

[hairboy123]

BTW ewing is a point guard dockery is the small forward *******. you tell me your not a bandwagoner :lol:

[krzyzewskisucks]

bats- were talking about the NBA, nateDAWG is still in college

hairboy-what the hell are you talking about?

[NBA_2kBore]

Felton
Gilchrist
Paul
Jack

Choose! Who would you build your team on, given the choice.

Im gonna be bias and say Jarret Jack...i'm a GT fan(have always been one) and he's the only one of all of them i've seen play....i've heard great things about all of em...except Felton. i aint heard anything anout him...

[krzyzewskisucks]

except Felton. i aint heard anything anout him...


Really?? A guy leads the ACC in assists and is probably their best POINT GUARD, not scorer mind you, but POINT GUARD, and you haven't heard about him? What closet have you been in?

[Bone Thug Nature]

Aaron Brooks.

[NBA_2kBore]

krzyzewskisucks Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:13 am Post subject:

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except Felton. i aint heard anything anout him...



Really?? A guy leads the ACC in assists and is probably their best POINT GUARD, not scorer mind you, but POINT GUARD, and you haven't heard about him? What closet have you been in?


I haven't seen much of UNC lately...i've barely caught GT's games. if homeboy is a good as y'all are making him sound...i'll have to find a UNC tv schedule, as well as a GT one...

[FlyingIllini04]

Deron Williams.

[AIRjordan23]

Deron Williams.

NOT A PG

[krzyzewskisucks]

yep, felton is taht good, u should watch him

[fiestyfighter123]

Dee Brown and Deron Williams is the best SG in the nation

and for all you who dont think that Dee Brown isnt good why dont you watch him play he is the fastest player, he can hit the three, and my oh my he is just that good

[AIRjordan23]

hes is the fastest player ill give you that and he is good not great but hes not top 5 pg.

[candyman25505]

Keeping it in the ACC as asked...
Virginia freshman sensation Sean Singletary

[krzyzewskisucks]

Sean Singletary-2nd best frosh PG but no where near best PG in nation, probably 20th best

[Chuck05]

Deron Williams.

NOT A PG

Uhh, I've watched every Illinois game that is on tv the last three years and he has played point guard in every game. Deron takes the ball up the court every possesion. While it is true that both he and Dee are both point guards(and Lu to some extent). Deron handles the point guard duties. Ask any Illini fan who plays point guard for Illinois and they will tell you the same thing.(Go to Illiniboard.com and ask if you don't believe me) This is a very large misconception about Illinois basketball.

[RickyDavisJams12]

i would build my team around tupac, tiger woods, chris farly, and darko milicic. :shock:

[RickyDavisJams12]

i would build my team around tupac, tiger woods, chris farly, and darko milicic. :shock:

[me]

Dee Brown and Deron Williams

[Madden_King]

TOO EASY!!! Dee Brown!

[krzyzewskisucks]

Im tired of all this Illinois bandwagoning

I would build a team around Deron, but not Dee

I would much rather build a team around Felton
If Illinois meets UNC then these matchups will be awesome

Felton/Dee: adv: even
Deron/Jackie: Deron shut down my Jackie's JJ-stopping defense
Rashad/Luther: Pretty even, edge to Rashad probably
Powell/Jawad: Dead even
Augustine/May: May by a little

[Madden_King]

I'm tired of all this Illinois bandwagoning.
Who the hell is bandwagoning?!?! I've been an Illini fan for 17 years and counting! I go back to the days of Kendall Gill, Nick Anderson, Stephen Bardo, and Kenny Battle of the late '80's when I was a kid. I will also tell you that I have great respect for the Tar Heels, as well, and not just because of the greatest player of all-time, a certain #23. As a matter of fact, the Tar Heels just happen to be my favorite ACC team. I always pull for them when they play Duke. I think a Illinois - North Carolina match-up would be great and it could happen in St. Louis...THE FINAL FOUR, that is.

[Chuck05]

Haha, my first Illini game was Corey Bradford's freshman year when the Illini finished last in the Big Ten. However, at the end of that season they beat three top 25 teams in the Big Ten Tournament in a row and and just came up short against MSU who I believe won it all that year.

[Madden_King]

However, at the end of that season they beat three top 25 teams in the Big Ten Tournament in a row and and just came up short against MSU who I believe won it all that year.
Unfortunately, I remember that season, all too well! Hey, at least, we lost to the team that won the National title.

[krzyzewskisucks]

I ain't talking about you Madden
I'm talking about all the ppl who are like

OMG! Da Fighting Illini, #1 baby, #1, Daron Williams, De Brown, Luthar Hed, all #1 pics next draft, National champs, national champs

(notice how they can't even spell their own players names right)

If someone can give me all of Illinois' players name w/o looking at some kind of sheet I'll agree their true fans, but then again how can I know they aren't looking? In the meantime

Raymond Felton
Jackie Manuel
Rashad McCants
Jawad Williams
Sean May
Marvin Williams
Quentin Thomas
Melvin Scott
David Noel
Damion Grant (7'0 Jamaican beast who has been wearing the same street clothes to every game I've gone too)
C.J. Hooker (has scored 2 pts every game I've gone too)
Wes Miller (JMU transfer who is good at the 3
Charlie Everett (our victory cigar)
Jesse Holley (football player who is playing basketball)
Brooks Foster (Same as above)
Byron Sanders (shows a little promiose, was starting center 2 years ago)
Reyshawn Terry (was huge against Maryland)

[FightingIllini#11]

If someone can give me all of Illinois' players name w/o looking at some kind of sheet I'll agree their true fans, but then again how can I know they aren't looking? In the meantime

Raymond Felton
Jackie Manuel
Rashad McCants
Jawad Williams
Sean May
Marvin Williams
Quentin Thomas
Melvin Scott
David Noel
Damion Grant (7'0 Jamaican beast who has been wearing the same street clothes to every game I've gone too)
C.J. Hooker (has scored 2 pts every game I've gone too)
Wes Miller (JMU transfer who is good at the 3
Charlie Everett (our victory cigar)
Jesse Holley (football player who is playing basketball)
Brooks Foster (Same as above)
Byron Sanders (shows a little promiose, was starting center 2 years ago)
Reyshawn Terry (was huge against Maryland)

Illinois players without looking:

#11 Dee Brown (Good Offensivley and defensivley)
#5 Deron Williams (can play good offense and is a good asisster)
#4 Luther Head (Can shoot the three)
#40 James Augustine
#45 Nick Smith (he is just tall)
#43 Roger Powell Jr. (can slam it down)
#34 Fred Nkemdi
#44 Marcus Arnold
#50 Jack Ingram
#15 Calvin Brock
#55 Shaun Pruitt
#41 Warren Carter
#33 Richard McBride(Can shoot the three too)
#42 Brian Randle

I didn't look at anything (just to let you know)

[Chuck05]

I'll add older numbers from old Illini teams.

#25 Nick Anderson
#13 Kendall Gill
#33 Kenny Battle
#33 Damir Krupalja
#30 Frank Williams
#5 Nate Mast
#34 Brian Cook
#21 Robert Archibald
#52 Marcus Griffin
#40 Sergio McClain
#1 Aaron Spears
#00 Brett Melton
#12 Joe Cross


And hometowns of current Illini players

#4 Luther Head -Chicago, Illinois
#5 Deron Williams - The Colony, Texas (played with Bracey Wright in HS)
#11 Dee Brown - Maywood, Illinois(Played with Shannon Brown for MSU, and Charles Richardson for Nebraska)
#15 Calvin Brock - Chicago, Illinois (Chicago Sun Times player of the year, played for Simeon High School which has produced many Illini players)
#33 Richard McBride - Springfield, Illinois (played with Andre Iguodala)
#34 Fred Nkemdi - got me on this one, I'll guess Springfield or Joliet attended some JUCO(maybe Joliet JC?) and walked on last year
#40 James Augustine - Mokena, Illinois
#41 Warren Carter - Dallas, Texas
#42 Brian Randle - Peoria, Illinois(A town that produced former Illini Frank Williams, Marcus Griffin, and Sergio McClain)
#43 Roger Powell - Joliet, Illinois
#44 Marcus Arnold - Springfield, Illinois maybe? (Transfer from ISU averaged 12 points, 5 boards)
#45 Nick Smith - Valrico, Florida (Tallest player in Illini history, can shoot)
#50 Jack Ingram - San Antonio, Texas (Former player at Tulsa)
#55 Shaun Pruitt - Aurora, Illinois (Played with Justin Cerasoli who plays for Seton Hall, and Michael Binns who plays for Fordham)

[OSUmike03]

good lord, what are you guys 12? Wow, you can name every player, that'll show him.

[FightingIllini#11]

no um not 12 try 14

GO ILLINI (your next natinal champs)

DEE,DERON,and HEAD will lead them to the champisonship.

[FightingIllini#11]

so OSUmike are you sayin i cant bee a college sports fan or something?

I know a lot of kids who are college basketballl fans.

[OSUmike03]

get a life kid. Go root for some other teams and leave the college rooting for current students and alumni.

[FightingIllini#11]

oh yeah and whats wrong with the cubs, bulls (a young team who will be good ina few years, and the Illini(#1 team i the nation)

[Chuck05]

get a life kid. Go root for some other teams and leave the college rooting for current students and alumni.

That really isn't a fair thing to say. I'm 17, but I've been living and dying with each Illini win and loss as long as I can remember. There is no rule that you must attend a place to become a fan of that school.

[uvebeenjooked]

get a life kid. Go root for some other teams and leave the college rooting for current students and alumni.

That really isn't a fair thing to say. I'm 17, but I've been living and dying with each Illini win and loss as long as I can remember. There is no rule that you must attend a place to become a fan of that school.

As long as people spell correctly, and don't splurge on the OMG's, LOL's, and WE GONNA WIN IT ALL 3 months before the tourney starts, I don't see a problem. But honestly, if you're going to argue with someone, at least attempt to establish a credible level of intellect.

The sad thing is that we all feel the need to flaunt our "supreme knowledge" with everyone else in a ****-measuring contest to stroke the almighty ego.

I honestly don't think you can discount Dee Brown as one of the top 5 PG's in the country. His skills are similiar to AI's, although obviously he's younger, so it's raw at this point. I have seen him take over a game with ease though, and speed of that nature is unstoppable. There is simply no answer for a player who can blow by anyone to get to the tin or pull back and drain 3 or 4 straight triple's. His passing skills are good as well, it seems that everyone on the Illini can distribute with efficiency. But the best in the country? No. Dee simply has too many excellent players around him that share the load.

But he is -the- difference maker on the #1 team in the country. He's the emotional leader, and is close to unguardable when he's hot. I think that goes past statistics and qualifies him as a top 5, but I don't see him as the best. I think it's even a bit early to say who -is- the best at this point. Come back around March 20th, and I'll have a better answer for who can step up when it really counts. :P

[krzyzewskisucks]

I think in this case we are talking about statistical leading PG's not necessarily emotionally leading, I'm not hating on Dee Brown but he don't even average the most assists on his team.

My top 5 in order

1. Chris Paul
2. Raymond Felton
3. Jarrett Jack
4. Deron Williams
5. John Lucas

runners up
Dee Brown, John Gilchrist, Pierre Pierce, Aaron Miles, Chris Thomas, Carl Krauser, Mustafa Shakur, Nate Robinson (my runners up are in no particular order)

[uvebeenjooked]

Yeah, it's stupid how people hate on Paul because he's favored by the experts. He's a very complete guard, but I think he needs to develop a lot.... he seems to have a Randy Moss complex.... he only seems to turn it up when he wants to.

Still probably the best all around 1 guard in the country.