NBA players now adays are wimps ..

[Thelonious Monk]

sidlined for week with spraines ankles and pinkies...pinky toes even..this is why there wwill never be another Malone...Bird..Magic...Jordan...Dr. J...cause the players don't want it bad enough..these legends literally played until they fell apart:!:

[The-Answer]

Not really. Its just Shaq basically. BTW you dont how serious and how bad it might hurt. Yeah I know how stupid it sounds sitting out because of a little toe. Honeslty do you think a toe would stop Shaq from playing. Its must be really really hurting.

[alcstarheel]

You don't think they want to play? They want to play more than you and me think. If they come back early from injuries, it just guarantees that they will injure it again, and it will probably become worse. Like that radio announcer said that Iverson could have come back sooner. He doesn't know what was going on with his body. So you can't say that they don't want to play.

And regarding Shaq's toe. Do you know how much he weighs? His knees, feet, and all his toes have to bear the bulk of his weight, running up the floor, cutting, and dunking. It does seem stupid, but that toe problem is hard to just "play through." It hurts like héll.

ALCS

[SAXMANLA]

shaq is a lazy bumb. really if karl malone had a calf injury, if kobe had a calf injury, they would be playing. if shaq had committed himself to working out, staying in shape, and rehabbing in the off seasons his body would be more durable. but like he said "if i get hurt on company time, i rehab on company time"

lets take away those GUARANTEED contracts and see how many players play through pain

[Blackwiz]

shaq is a lazy bumb. really if karl malone had a calf injury, if kobe had a calf injury, they would be playing. if shaq had committed himself to working out, staying in shape, and rehabbing in the off seasons his body would be more durable. but like he said "if i get hurt on company time, i rehab on company time"

lets take away those GUARANTEED contracts and see how many players play through pain

Kobe yea, but i doubt Malone, he wouldn't take the risk, and really, you don't know how bad it hurts, i sometimes think Shaq sits out when the team really needs him, but you don't know wat goes on in his mind........Kobe would play, maybe Malone, but maybe Shaq is the smart one, he doesn't wanna risk re-injuring it

[TheGameShutDown]

shaq is a lazy bumb. really if karl malone had a calf injury, if kobe had a calf injury, they would be playing. if shaq had committed himself to working out, staying in shape, and rehabbing in the off seasons his body would be more durable. but like he said "if i get hurt on company time, i rehab on company time"

lets take away those GUARANTEED contracts and see how many players play through pain

Kobe yea, but i doubt Malone, he wouldn't take the risk, and really, you don't know how bad it hurts, i sometimes think Shaq sits out when the team really needs him, but you don't know wat goes on in his mind........Kobe would play, maybe Malone, but maybe Shaq is the smart one, he doesn't wanna risk re-injuring it

Malone is the Co-Ironman of the NBA. Give me one reason why Kobe would play with a calf injury and Malone wouldn't.

[nkhera1]

sidlined for week with spraines ankles and pinkies...pinky toes even..this is why there wwill never be another Malone...Bird..Magic...Jordan...Dr. J...cause the players don't want it bad enough..these legends literally played until they fell apart:!:

its a lot harder to play in the nba than you think. Why should shaq or anyone else for that matter ruin their whole career over a few season games

[Blackwiz]

shaq is a lazy bumb. really if karl malone had a calf injury, if kobe had a calf injury, they would be playing. if shaq had committed himself to working out, staying in shape, and rehabbing in the off seasons his body would be more durable. but like he said "if i get hurt on company time, i rehab on company time"

lets take away those GUARANTEED contracts and see how many players play through pain

Kobe yea, but i doubt Malone, he wouldn't take the risk, and really, you don't know how bad it hurts, i sometimes think Shaq sits out when the team really needs him, but you don't know wat goes on in his mind........Kobe would play, maybe Malone, but maybe Shaq is the smart one, he doesn't wanna risk re-injuring it

Malone is the Co-Ironman of the NBA. Give me one reason why Kobe would play with a calf injury and Malone wouldn't.

because he is old and i don't think he wants to risk anything, i mean why risk having Malone coming in the game, when Shaq, Kobe and GP can win some games alone, so then Malone would be ready for playoff time

[lawcutta]

Most of them players resting up for the post-season. Players are weaker now-a-days.

[Mr.Clean]

some people will never get it.......

[og15]

Well some people have to realize that sometimes sitting out with a minor injury is better than playing with it and making it worse.

Look at Alvin Williams and tell me it was a godo decision all those times he decided to play while injured, he doesn't even have knee's anymore.

[BobbyEscobar]

Well some people have to realize that sometimes sitting out with a minor injury is better than playing with it and making it worse.

Look at Alvin Williams and tell me it was a godo decision all those times he decided to play while injured, he doesn't even have knee's anymore.
:lol:

[15/15]

Well some people have to realize that sometimes sitting out with a minor injury is better than playing with it and making it worse.

Look at Alvin Williams and tell me it was a godo decision all those times he decided to play while injured, he doesn't even have knee's anymore.

Alvin Williams I see as someone who has everything to prove of himself. He has even said in the past that he would "die on the court" playing injured and that he doesn't care for his health in the future (post-NBA)by not giving his body needed rest in the present. His warrior-like comments I find are borderline stupid. You don't need to try and surpass Allen Iverson's toughness in order to get the kind of respect he does...

[og15]

Well some people have to realize that sometimes sitting out with a minor injury is better than playing with it and making it worse.

Look at Alvin Williams and tell me it was a godo decision all those times he decided to play while injured, he doesn't even have knee's anymore.

Alvin Williams I see as someone who has everything to prove of himself. He has even said in the past that he would "die on the court" playing injured and that he doesn't care for his health in the future (post-NBA)by not giving his body needed rest in the present. His warrior-like comments I find are borderline stupid. You don't need to try and surpass Allen Iverson's toughness in order to get the kind of respect he does...
That's what I'm saying, their's toughness, then their's stupidness, Alvin's is just stupidness, his playing while injured is now hurting the team more in the long term than it helped them for those 5 games :roll:

[Penny]

If you are hurt, and your a superstar that seems to be the worst combination.... no matter how bad the media may make you look, by portraying you as a 'woose' and what not, I will always support the players decision....not only do they know their body more, but they must be hurting for them not to be playing.

Well some people have to realize that sometimes sitting out with a minor injury is better than playing with it and making it worse.

Look at Alvin Williams and tell me it was a godo decision all those times he decided to play while injured, he doesn't even have knee's anymore.
...not sure why people laughed at this comment, its exactly true.... if you get injured, do not listen to no one else, no matter what they call you, because your current injury can make it worse, and there is no better example than:

Anfernee 'Penny' Hardaway

....he had a horrific knee injury at the beginning of the 1997-98 season

Dr. Jack Ramsay, after Penny came back the next season
"I am surprised he didnt retire after that injury, its good to see him back"

....alot of bashing, Penny got, as people were saying he was a wimp and what not, and being such a target in Orlando, as Shaq headed out to LA, Penny needed to return for the fans and the franchise, even despite his knee injury, he did.


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...right there, thats where it all ended.... he came back nowhere near 100%.... and the next few seasons afterwards are some of the most sadest and tragic for such a highly talented, rare, and special NBA player.

The next year, he played hurt, and managed to get Orlando the #3 seed in the lockout year.... the year in Phoenix he still played hurt.... and another critical turning point for the worse was...

Game 1, Round 1 Phoenix Suns vs San Antonio Spurs

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late in the game, as Penny drove/ ran past David Robinson David's knee collided with Penny's 75% (at best knee) and another surgery had to be delayed.... Penny guided them past the 1st round including a triple double in game 4.... as he took the load without his 'Backcourt 2000' team memeber Jason Kidd.
Though they lost in round 2, to the eventual champs LA Lakers.... penny posting 25pts per game, 7asst, 5rebs!

The subsequent year Hardaway played only 4 games, as the knee was taking its toll after delayed surgeries and countless hits since 97'-98'.

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01-02 Penny's role got diminshed from a one time star being told to come back from injury to playing 80 games, starting only 55.

....since then Penny Hardaway has seen a continued diminshed role, as now being from a player who took the Phoenix Suns organisation to the 2nd round, to a trade bait, who consumes salary cap.

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.... and I would imagine the New York Knicks are thinking the same thing!

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Penny Hardaway has recently said..." its a relief to finally be able to work on my game rather than my knee in the off - season."

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^ too little too late, for Anfernee Penny Hardaway, new stars have come up through the rankings, and his chances of being a starter or even a 6th man in the NBA look to be fading, for the 33 year old.

No player should go through such a career, whereby injuries are your main obstacle, due to people calling you a wimp and what not... it would not be right for any other superstar to go through such a 'disapointment' career to that of Penny Hardaway.
The word disapointment being used, as I am sure many had high hopes for Penny.
Despite his 4 major knee surgeries within 7 years, he should be credited for his ego allowing him to become a role player, and not to take the money and run, which was such an easy option for him... but I guess the love of the game proved to be too much for him to leave.

The sadest bit about his career will be;
- He could have been one of the greats if he didnt get injured.

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From this to this

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its a lot harder to play in the nba than you think. Why should shaq or anyone else for that matter ruin their whole career over a few season games
:(


....sorry for making it a 'penny' related post, but I thought he was a prime example of how injuries to some who think they are being wimps, can have devastating results.

[Mr.Clean]

Well some people have to realize that sometimes sitting out with a minor injury is better than playing with it and making it worse.

Look at Alvin Williams and tell me it was a godo decision all those times he decided to play while injured, he doesn't even have knee's anymore.

mayb exagerrated a little.......but from raptor fan to raptor fan....i see were ur coming from