Him Or Him

[TheGameShutDown]

Well since the other one should be considered dead, I've decided to start up a new one here.

Bill Laimbeer or John Salley

[alcstarheel]

Bill Lambier. He was a tough mother you-know-what, and he would crack your skull to clean that glass.

Well since it didn't get answered in the other one:

Todd Maculloch or Luc Longley?

ALCS

[The-Answer]

Luc. I havent followed much of his game. But I know for a fact, he did more to help the Bulls out then Todd did for the Sixers and Nets.

Baron Davis or Steve Francis

[TheGameShutDown]

B-Diddy. He's stronger and more aggressive then Francis. You can't blame Stevie for his lack of production on offense, since he's still adjusting towards Van Gundy's defensive oriented style.

Mike Wilks or Tierre Brown

[og15]

Tierre Brown, because he's taller and won't be as much of a liability on the defensive end.

Richie Frahm or Kyle Korver

[TheGameShutDown]

Kyle Korver. Was the best shooter in the NCAA last year, and he's more consistent. Also taller and has a more natural position unlike Frahm.

Trajan Langdon or William Avery

[Anonymous]

Trajan Langdon

He's a pretty decent shooter. When he had a decent amount of minutes last season (02-03) he shot 43% from the field and also 41% from the arc, while achieving 6.0 points per game with 17 minutes of play per game.

Mitch Richmond or Glenn Rice (in their prime days)

[TheGameShutDown]

Mitch Richmond. Arguable the second best SG of the 1990s. Could shoot the lights out and also get to the whole.

By the way, neither Avery or Langdon were in the league last year. What stats are you looking at?

Corey Maggete or Quentin Richardson

[Anonymous]

I said the wrong season, I ment the 2000-2001 season, my bad.

[Anonymous]

Mitch Richmond. Arguable the second best SG of the 1990s. Could shoot the lights out and also get to the whole.

Just to let you know, in Rice shot a better FG% in his whole career so far(Rice: .456 | Richmond: .455) and Rice had a better 3P% (Rice: .400 | Richmond: .388). Although Richmond has more PPG in his career.

[g-unit80744]

Mitch Richmond. Arguable the second best SG of the 1990s. Could shoot the lights out and also get to the whole.

Just to let you know, in Rice shot a better FG% in his whole career so far(Rice: .456 | Richmond: .455) and Rice had a better 3P% (Rice: .400 | Richmond: .388). Although Richmond has more PPG in his career.

who are you guest? Are you Sonic2nd?

[og15]

lol i think it is haha

[ANGELFUNK & TMAC]

Charles Barkley or Karl Malone (93 season when both were primed)

[TheGameShutDown]

Charles Barkley. He was the MVP, though we all know that MJ got robbed(I think it was that year, maybe). Barkley's like Rodman with offense. He's undersized but he got over everyone. Karl's great, but that year, no forward could step up to Charles.

James White or Vince Carter(Dunking)

[Blackwiz]

James White or Vince Carter(Dunking)

when anything involves dunking and Vince Carter, it goes to VC


Shaq or Tim Duncan

[Penny]

I always thought this was a good thread, so hopefully we can get it rolling again.

Shaq or Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal, no one has been as dominant as him since he entered the league. Granted Tim Duncan is great, but Shaquille O'Neal is just a monster downlow, alot more effective than Tim Duncan on both ends, he is truly a monster in the post.
Could be the best C to ever play ..............



Nazr Mohammad or Marcus Camby

[lllllll23lllllll]

Camby


Better scorer, better shot blocker, better rebounder, better defensive player.....

Plus he wears #23 :D



(Potential Rookie Year)

LeBron James ('03-'04) or Magic Johnson ('79-'80)

**edited by lllllll23lllllll**

I meant "potential" after their rookie years. Who had more promise going into the next season, despite their 1 year age gap?

[Pointguard13]

Corey Maggete or Quentin Richardson

No one answered, so I'll do it :P Maggette easily. Que loves to jack up 3's but isn't great at doing it. Maggette is a overall much better player who can do just about everything on the floor.

(Potential Rookie Year)

LeBron James ('03-'04) or Magic Johnson ('79-'80)

I'm going off the top of my head and not looking at stats, but I'll go with LB. LB is a few years younger his rookie year and has more time to develop that "potential". Both probably had exceptional years, and it could be a coin toss.

:?: Phoinex or Seattle [Come Playoff Time] :?:

[dirtybirdie]

Seattle, the Suns have a bad bench and Seattle can jumpshoot and rebound which IMO is the best thing to do during the playoffs




Boston or Philly
Who takes the Atlantic?

[g-unit80744]

Philly

Gilbert Arenas or Michael Redd??

[NYGiants]

Philly

Gilbert Arenas or Michael Redd??


Arenas,he can create shots better for himself and his teammates and still plays pretty good D. Redd is better at moving off the ball and getting his shot and is also a better defender. He is also one of the best shooters in the league but he isn't great at creating his own shots against top defenders. Redd can get to the basket but not nearly as well as Arenas. Arenas can penetrate and either score or find an open teammate. Put it this way, both are great players but if I was starting a team I would take Arenas before Redd.



Vince Carter or Antawn Jamison

[AIRjordan23]

Id choose Antwan Jamison i dont want a player on my team who doesnt give 100 percent cough cough VINCE CARTER.


Michael Jordan or Lebron James

[og15]

^that was weak :roll:

Arenas,he can create shots better for himself and his teammates and still plays pretty good D. Redd is better at moving off the ball and getting his shot and is also a better defender. He is also one of the best shooters in the league but he isn't great at creating his own shots against top defenders. Redd can get to the basket but not nearly as well as Arenas. Arenas can penetrate and either score or find an open teammate. Put it this way, both are great players but if I was starting a team I would take Arenas before Redd.
:? Arenas is an underatted shooter, he's just a tiny few notches below the top shooters in the league with his jumpshot. Arenas is also the better defender, he's better off-the-ball defensively, and comparable man to man. Arenas is also a comparable rebounder, a much better passer, and better at getting to the line.


Michael Jordan or Lebron James
Micheal Jordan, he was a much better defender, and even mroe efficient scorer than James is showing now with his amazing numbers, and a comparable rebounder. James has the edge in passing, but Jordan was a more complete player on both ends of the floor.




Per 40:
J-Rich: 23.7 points, 6.4 rebounds, 3.9 assists, 1.50 steals, 1.4:1 assists to turnover ratio, 2.5 fouls, 50.3% TS

R-Jefferson: 21.6 points, 7.1 rebounds, 3.9 assists, 0.97 steals, 1.0:1 assists to turnover ratio, 3.2 fouls, 52.5% TS


Jason Richardson or Richard Jefferson

[dirtybirdie]

Philly
Gilbert Arenas or Michael Redd??
gonna hold this agaisnt ya :wink:
MJ, lebron is good but MJ was great

Allen Iverson or Baron Davis?

[batron]

Baron Davis, and on OG's I would take Jason Richardson. I like how hard he plays and he hasn't reached his peak yet. I think we have seen what we are going to get out of Jefferson. But I like them both.

Ray Allen or Andrei Kirilenko?

[Pointguard13]

AK47, he's exactly what I would want if I built my team at the SF position and while Allen is a great scorer and under-rated in many other areas, AK47 is younger and can be a bigger impact in many different ways.

Erick Dampier(With recent play) or Jamaal Magloire(healthy)?

[batron]

Magloire, he is an unopened can of talent. Damp has been playing very nicely lately though.

[lllllll23lllllll]

Well I gotta run with Magloire also because when hes healthy it usually results in an 82 game season. More athletic and a better rebounder than Diamper, (lets take in consideration that the Mavs take a ton of outside shots) and hes three years younger. Both made the 800 club last year and within the absence of Mags, Dampier is still just head over water. But Dampier handles the ball a little better and doesnt turn the ball over as much! It depends on what you're looking for from a team standpoint. Nowitzki isnt all that bad of rebounder but yet Damp has been the man (on the Mavs) as of "recently".


Lets add some twist :D


(Trade Talks)

Draft Picks or Cash Considerations?

[g-unit80744]

Picks since you have a shot at getting the next great NBA star.

[lllllll23lllllll]

Him or Him? :roll:


By the way a team like the Hornets would probably go with the picks, more galore, but take the Spurs, on the other hand, and they would probably go with the cash (but because of their record, picks wouldnt be a bad choice neither). It depends on whether a team needs, or wants, to build on the future, or just trying to give some extra push going into either the 2nd half or the postseason by acquiring a F.A. Maybe using that player as bait to get the player(s) of their choice somewhere down the line.

or maybe cash considerations of their own.....



If its forseeable, the object of course would be the postseason :arrow:

[Mike92882]

Mitch Richmond. Arguable the second best SG of the 1990s. Could shoot the lights out and also get to the whole.

By the way, neither Avery or Langdon were in the league last year. What stats are you looking at?

Corey Maggete or Quentin Richardson

Meggete all the way

[g-unit80744]

Nowitski or CWebb?

[Pointguard13]

Dirk, no explanation needed.

Guarenteed a Championship [with older players]

or

Have Great young nuclues [Great team over many years, but no guarentee]

[machine24]

guaranteed championship u can always rebuild but winning a championship is rare


Kevin Garnett or Lebron James

[drexlerfan11]

LeBron James because he is the future. He is only 19 and yet is putting up phenominal numbers, getting his teammates invloved, helpin the team win, and very mature. He is a special player that doesn't come around that often.

James Posey or Josh Howard?

[machine24]

James Posey his Defense is great i like josh howard but i love posey!

pau gasol or lamar odom

[SAXMANLA]

odom for a few reasons, he is a decent defender and can play 4 positions, possibly 5....


Mike Bibby or Bobby Jackson

[dirtybirdie]

Bibby, Jackson is too injury prone


Donyell Marshall or Antoine Walker?

[SAXMANLA]

'TOINE, marshall always seems to be out of position.


larry brown or popovich

[Pointguard13]

Popovich easily.

Gavin Maloof or (the other guy) Maloof

[SAXMANLA]

lol, they both get on my nerves...how about this though...

the maloofs or cuban?

[g-unit80744]

don't like em both but Cuban.

Kenyon Martin or Richard Jefferson?

[machine24]

richard jefferson *when he comes back next season NJ will be a force to deal with in the east!


Vince Carter or Tracy Mcgrady

[SAXMANLA]

TMAC!

matt barnes or bobby simmons

[drexlerfan11]

Matt Barnes hasn't been getting MUCH pt down in Sacramento but when he has, he's played fairly well. But the answer is obvious, Bobby Simmons, who is a potential winner of the MIP award at the end of the season.

Eddy Curry or Stromile Swift?

[g-unit80744]

Swift....I just like him...


Kidd or Nash

[machine24]

Nash is a better shooter, Kidd better defender hmmmmmm

Nash is my 2nd favorite player so ill choose him, Kidd though is probably better all around though



better shooter

Pete maravich or Larry bird

[blinx36]

Jerry West.










JK. Between those two i'll take Bird.

Better shooter;

Peja or Dirk.

[machine24]

u love to argue with me dont you? :lol:


Dirk is the better player better mid range shooter Peja maybe a tad better from 3pt land Dirk better in the post, overall though id say Dirk



best Portland PG

van exel,stoudamire,telfair

[NYGiants]

u love to argue with me dont you? :lol:


Dirk is the better player better mid range shooter Peja maybe a tad better from 3pt land Dirk better in the post, overall though id say Dirk



best Portland PG

van exel,stoudamire,telfair

Van Exel. He is clutch and has become the leader of that team. If there's one guy on Portland I can rely on to come up big in an imprtant game it's Nick Van Exel. Of coure my opinion is based on how good they are now and not for the future.

[g-unit80744]

Damon

Cuttino or Christie

[drexlerfan11]

Cuttino Mobely. Both good 3-pt shooters but Mobely probably has the edge. Mobley is way more agressive on the offensive end where Christie is not. While Christie is a better defender, Mobley isn't bad. Magic should have never done that trade.

Earl Boykins or Mugsy Bouges?

Mi uno milésimo poste!!!!!

[dirtybirdie]

Boykins, Bogues wasn't that good



Paul Pierce or Allen Ivserson?

[og15]

Boykins, Bogues wasn't that good



Paul Pierce or Allen Ivserson?
Bogues was a much better PG, while Boykins is a much better scorer, I'd say it depends on what you'd prefer from your PG.

Hmm...it's a tough one, but I'd have to go with Pierce. They're on about the same level defensively, but offensively, Pierce is a more efficient scorer, he's also very capable at getting to the line, and he's explosive too, Iverson obviously has the edge in passing as he's a PG, and Pierce in rebounding, as he's 6'6, but he's also one of the best [top 3-5] rebounding guards in the league.

Gilbert Arenas or Stephon Marbury - Please give an explanation as opposed to just choosing one :)

[Penny]

Dang ..................... that is tough. Regardless of what people think, Stephon Marbury is a very good player, and this isn't easy to call.

If I had to pick, I would go with Gilbert Arenas due to the fact that he will get his team involved, whereas Stephon Marbury can get a little bit trigger happy and neglect his team mates.
Gilbert Arenas' defense is better that's for sure, which is one of the main reasons why I pick him over Stephon Marbury, both are shooting well so that's close to call.
I always knew Gilbert Arenas could score, it was just a matter of time until he developed that aspect of his game, then again so can Stephon Marbury. In terms of explosive scoring I would give the edge to Stephon Marbury because if he is hot, what can you do? He carried the "Dream" Team against Spain, and has being putting big numbers recently with the New York Knicks.
Stephon Marbury is still a better passer than Gilbert Arenas, but he doens't involve his team mates as well. Also another reason is; without the ball Stephon Marbury is no where near as effective as he is with it, he needs the rock in his hands to play well in my opinion.

But yeah when it comes down to it; Gilbert Arenas. Better defender, more of a team based player, better rebounder. Much like everyone else I'm sure, I am very impressed by his play all season long. 43pts tonight!




Mike Bibby or Baron Davis




P.S -- I further the notion that people should express their reasonings in picking a player over another, rather than just picking. It makes the thread have more depth and something to read about.

[machine24]

i agree

im gonna pick Mike Bibby simply because he is more durable

Baron is a better player but is always injured

healthy id take baron but if i was picking an NBA team and it came down to these two id take Mike Bibby just for his durability, and he's a great player in his own right.



who was better in their day

Kevin Mchale or james worthy

[blinx36]

I'll take McHale.

He was the ultimate sixth-man of his generation. He had a remarkable low-post game, a load of moves...he seemed to always get to the free throw line and made shots in the clutch. Was there ever anyone who had a better physique for the game of basketball? Maybe. But i'd have to think long and hard to find someone........

Better defensive player;

Theo Ratliff or AK47.

[SAXMANLA]

ak47...excellent defender and legit scorer. kirelenko defends the WHOLE court (something i didn't notice until this year)

pat riley or chuck daley

[bostongeorge]

Pat Riley because he won more titles. Both of them could have had more titles if it wasn't for a guy named Micheal Jordan. Dailey's (Pistons) Riley's (Knicks)


"Never Nervous" Pervis Ellison or Billy Owens

[lllllll23lllllll]

From his rookie year to the '93 season i would run with Ellison and call it highway robbery. But due to his chronic knee problem from there on makes him a liability, and much more apparent that ive been robbed! I dont care how great you are but if you cant give me minutes what good are you to me? Atleast Owens started more games than Ellison played, period! Over 11 years he just never panned out to his draft position, despite his most improved player recognition in '92.

Actually, as far as im concerned, its a case of the double sided coin, inwhich I lose either way!

P.S. (in regards to the sig^^)
By the way dont feel too bad she had a change of heart. With a mug like that i would be smiling! Anyone seen Dawn Of The Dead? :lol:




Adrian Dantley or Alex English

[machine24]

wow now there is a true toss up.

ill go with Dantley simply cause he played with Detroit. neither answer could be wrong with that one.


dominique wilkins or bernard King

[bostongeorge]

I'll go with Bernard King. He was one of the most prolific scorers in the league. Shoot as well as take it to the rack. Him and Isiah Thomas used to go at it in East. Truly classic ball player. Dominique although a good scorer was mainly a power dunker slash to the hole kind of player.


Pete Chillcutt or Brad Lohas

[machine24]

brad lohas simply cause i dont remember much bout the other dude



Kenny the jet Smith or Kevin Johnson

[NYGiants]

brad lohas simply cause i dont remember much bout the other dude



Kenny the jet Smith or Kevin Johnson


Kevin Johnson was definitely a better player. Johnson was an all-star and Kenny smith was a between a mid tier player and and all-star. Kenny definitely had a clutch shot and came up huge in big games but Kevin Johnson is definitely the better player.


Chris Mullin or Tom Chambers?

[lllllll23lllllll]

He was the C in Run-TMC! :D


It depends on what im looking for also. Chambers was a good scorer but lacked the rebounding power at the 4. Mullin was a great freethrow shooter and got even better beyond the arc as his career progressed. Hes considered deadly from beyond the arc and will pick your pocket on defense. Chambers was okay but not as accurate as Mullin, although Chambers did shoot over 37% one year in over 140 attempts. One thing for certain is that both of them guys choked against the Bulls during the Playoffs. Mullin was nonexistent in the ECF in '98 and Chambers scoring was anemic with the Suns during the '93 Finals. :arrow:



Zydrunas Ilgauskas or Rik Smits

[SAXMANLA]

i will take mullin!

drazen petrovic or dirk nowitzki

AND

peja vs Toni Kukoc (in his prime)

[NYGiants]

i will take mullin!

drazen petrovic or dirk nowitzki

AND

peja vs Toni Kukoc (in his prime)

To answer lllllll23lllllll I would take Smits over Ilgauskas. Both players career paths look similiar but I'll take Smits since he's played longer to this point and was a little more durable. Both have always been injury prone but Smits played longer. Ilgauskas still has some year left so maybe he can play as long and remain effective. If Ilgauskas can win a championship while he's still one of the better Centersin the league then he might end up being ranked higher. Another thing that gives the edge to Smits is the fact that he had a lot more competition at the Center postition during his career but was still able to put up very good stats.


Kukoc. Always shows up in big games and hits clutch shuts. Peja is a more lethal scorer but it seems like he's afraid to take big shots. Toni was a much better all around player in his prime.

As far as Petrovic and Dirk go it's very tough. Many people including NBA greats say Drazen was one of the best players they've ever seen play basketball. Dirk has had more successful NBA seasons but Petrovic was arguably the most dominating international player ever and he was coming off two great NBA seasons before his tragic death. It's very tough but I'll take Petrovic based on the fact that NBA Hall of Famers say he was one of the best ever. Dirk is one of the most unique and versatile players we've seen so it's very close.


Allen Iverson or Isiah Thomas?

[SAXMANLA]

i'll take zeke for one reason(actually 2) championships...he was a winner and talk about heart..... i remember way back when the lakers and pistons used to go at it in the finals...man the game where zeke was on one ankle and still lit the lakers up in the 3rd quarter...whooo!!

here's one...
len bias or hank gathers

[NYGiants]

i'll take zeke for one reason(actually 2) championships...he was a winner and talk about heart..... i remember way back when the lakers and pistons used to go at it in the finals...man the game where zeke was on one ankle and still lit the lakers up in the 3rd quarter...whooo!!

here's one...
len bias or hank gathers

i hate thinking about what we could have seen from them. if you're are making me pick i'll take Bias based on the hype he recieved and the fact that some people said he could have ended up being the greatest ever. Coach K at Duke says other than Jordan, Bias was the one other players that just stood out form anyone he'd every seen. so many of basketballs smartest people say Bias was the best college player they'd ever seen(including Jordan). it still makes me sad to think about Bias. he would be 41 years old now and we would probably be saying he was one of the greatest we'd ever seen play the game if not the greatest. We would probably be saying the same about Gathers too.


Dennis Johnson or Jason Kidd?

[SAXMANLA]

j kidd. i really feel he is a throwback, meaning on that could have played and excelled in another era. could you imagine j kidd the playmaker running the point with the 80's celtics??


chuck person or vernon maxwell?