OFFICIAL: Phoenix Suns Thread

[og15]

I know there are some Suns fans out there, so this is the place to talk about the rebuilding Suns, and also the Clippers. This isn't a winning thread but s'all good. :D


The Suns lost to the Knicks yesterday 110-105, Marion had a horrible shooting game, but still racked up 16 points, 14 boards, and 6 steals. Joe Johnson again had an amazing game, scoring 31 points.

Man im loving the new Joe Johnson, he's showing the versatlilty the coaches were bragging about him having before. They said he was capable of playing as a point forward, and he' showing that now since Starbury and Penny left.

Also Amare is still out, and Marcej Lampe almost made it off the bench today, the coach called him and said Marcej its your time to shine. Go fill up the water bottle for the team, the water boy got injured.

[og15]

^^^^
Yesss.......yesssss

http://www.tribnet.com/sports/basketball/sonics/story/4694083p-4645462c.html

Snow advocated that Sixers general manager Billy King trade him.


"Do you just sit and throw in the towel for the whole year?" Snow said. "If they (management) feel the team isn't getting better than what we have, then you change it. If any player is against that, that's not right

[ANGELFUNK & TMAC]

keep up the good work OG...

peace cat.....love ya respect and knowledge of OUR game....

[Brankles]

I dunno OG... all these Official Threads are kinda over the top...


Pretty soon there will be 29 Official Threads, and no room for basketball talk...

If there should be any threads, it should be for big teams, like the Lakers, Mavs, or Kings... and not the Cavs, Heat, or Suns...





Holla

[og15]

The Seattle SuperSonics have contacted the agent for guard Brent Barry to explore a possible contract extension, The News Tribune has learned.

However, the sides are so far apart on expectations, according to sources, that it is becoming increasingly apparent that Barry may be playing his final season in Seattle - and could be traded before the Feb. 19 trade deadline.



Teams that have been active in pursuing trades around the league have been Boston, where Danny Ainge is attempting to overhaul the Celtics' roster; New York, where Isiah Thomas is trying to jettison Shandon Anderson; Orlando, which needs another scorer alongside Tracy McGrady and has offered Juwan Howard and Gordan Giricek; Atlanta, which is trying to shed salaries to get under the luxury tax threshold by trading Jason Terry, Shareef Abdur-Rahim or Theo Ratliff; Portland, which has been attempting to deal Rasheed Wallace and Ruben Patterson; and Golden State, which is having a disappointing season and whose assistant general manager, Chris Mullin, is good friends with Barry, who grew up in the Bay Area native.


http://www.tribnet.com/sports/story/4697415p-4648633c.html

The Sonics think Barry is somewhat expendable because they have four other guards, and a fifth guard complicates rotations. While Antonio Daniels is signed for two more seasons, the team also thinks Luke Ridnour is the future point guard, and Barry's presence retards his development. It wasn't until Barry's recent injury that Ridnour started playing more.


At the same time, Barry is one of the game's best 3-point shooters and has an uncanny feel for the game, which allows him to help out youngsters such as Ridnour and Nick Collison.

[og15]

It would seem bad enough that he is mired on the bench. But now Clippers guard Keyon Dooling is facing the possibility that the team that projected him as its future point guard four years ago might not have any plans for him.


Dooling's name has been tossed about in a swirl of rumors, the hottest one being him going to the Chicago Bulls as part of a deal that would bring the Clippers guard Jamal Crawford, who like Dooling, is in his fourth season.

Crawford and Dooling are in the final years of their rookie contracts and will be restricted free-agents this summer. Their contracts are comparable - Crawford gets $2,577,947 this season and Dooling is being paid $2,256,444.

[og15]

Raptors Notes

Raps vs Magic

In the Raps locker room

Vince and Mo Pete were ripping Roger Mason Jr. (Calling him Buddy Lee for some reason) about having no plays being called for him.

Certain unnamed Raps were discussing the state of Miss Janet's...um...assets...and despite the rough critique, they said that given the chance, they'd participate in activities regardless (use your imagination)

Donyell was getting razzed by Raptors massage therapist Ray Chow about taking his final shot to pad his stats (which he missed horribly).

When asked about T-Mac's back, Vince said "That guy's getting old."


In keeping with the theme of being old, Jalen made comments regarding the 20 point blowout, saying "It's good to be up late in the game so that you can sit down and ice those knees...that adds years onto the end of your career"

[og15]

The feeler discussions with Seattle about Brent Barry have stalled, mostly because Barry has made it clear he wouldn't re-sign with the Bulls as an unrestricted free agent this summer.



An NBA source says that the Knicks would be willing to trade any of their players other than Stephon Marbury, Allan Houston or Keith Van Horn for Wallace. However, the Knicks believe they may be able to acquire Wallace this summer with the midlevel salary-cap exception and, thus, wouldn't have to trade any of their players to Portland -- most notably forward Kurt Thomas.


They want to keep Van Horn now??????

[og15]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1731658

The Philadelphia 76ers, who have lost eight of their last 10 en route to a 21-31 first-half record, fired coach Randy Ayers on Tuesday.


Assistant coach Chris Ford will take over as interim 76ers coach. Ford has previously been head coach of the Celtics, Bucks and Clippers.

[BaLLaSteve85]

Damn Ayers was fired that sucks i hope Chris Ford is good.

[og15]

So who else could be on the move? Portland is ready to deal the demoted Dale Davis as well as Ruben Patterson. The Magic is looking for a home for Juwan Howard, and Drew Gooden is said to want out. The Wizards are trying to deal Christian Laettner, whom owner Abe Pollin condemned for his recent drug suspension. The Pistons are trying to unload a contract to have enough salary-cap room to make a substantial offer to Mehmet Okur, in whom Denver is said to be interested.

The Jazz is still looking at Tom Gugliotta from the Suns, who want to make a deal for luxury-tax relief after the season. Doug Christie's wife says the Kings are trying to trade Christie, though the Kings aren't saying anything. Seattle's Vladimir Radmanovic is said to be available as his playing time dwindles. The Sonics see Nick Collison returning next season and taking over at power forward.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/printedition/cs-0402160140feb16,1,6234002.story?coll=cs-sports-print

So are the Bulls up to anything? Those talks with the 76ers and Magic about Aaron McKie and Gordon Giricek involve Jamal Crawford. The Bulls supposedly want to deal Crawford before they have to negotiate with him after the season, but they know they need a scoring guard or forward to replace him to at least remain competitive the rest of the season.

The Magic, the biggest underachiever of the season, is trying to shake things up, as are the fading Celtics by offering the expiring contract of Chris Mills. The front-running Pacers might be willing to move Al Harrington, who has been privately lobbying hard to start. There is talk they'll include Jamaal Tinsley in a package.

[ANGELFUNK & TMAC]

If we could get Jamaal Crawford and Tyson Chandler from the Bulls for Giricek, Howard and Gaines......

I would be
STOKED....

PG. JAMAAL CRAWFORD
SG. TRACY MACGRADY
SF. KEITH BOGANS
PF. DREW GOODEN
C. TYSON CHANDLER

Bench.....

LUE
STRICKLAND
ZAZA
GARRITY.....oh yeah hes out for the season....



But heck the startin 5 looks SWEEET!!!!

They all ATHLETES in there own right....

[ut_jazz]

googs is worthless to the jazz

[og15]

...............

[Phoenix78]

True, the Suns are done for the season.

I said before that I wanted them to end with a record of 36-46.
Right now, they're 18-37, so they'd have to win 18 of the last 27 and they've only had 18 wins up to this point, so it's not going to happen.

My brother thinks I should look at it the way he looks at the Bulls. Hope for a terrible record and a good spot in the draft order.

I don't think the Suns need any more young players, so I guess they could trade the pick if it was high. I haven't really paid attention to drafts pick mentioned in past trades. Do the Suns even have their own first round pick?

[og15]

The Suns have a fair amount of picks actually.......

[Phoenix78]

"The Phoenix Suns announced today that forward/centers Keon Clark and Ben Handlogten have been acquired from the Utah Jazz in exchange for forward Tom Gugliotta, two conditional first-round draft picks, a 2005 second-round draft pick and an undisclosed sum of cash."

[Phoenix78]

Suns Draft Picks
1 2004 second-round pick (to Orlando)
1 conditional 2005 second-round pick (from Orlando)

1 unconditional 2004 first-round pick (from New York)
1 conditional future first-round pick (from New York)
rights to Milos Vujanic (2002 pick of New York)

2 conditional first-round picks (to Utah)
1 2005 second-round pick (to Utah)


If I have everything correct, that leaves them with 1 first-round pick (either New York's or their own; the other goes to Utah) and no second-round pick (it goes to Orlando) this year.

[X Dah Creator]

"The Phoenix Suns announced today that forward/centers Keon Clark and Ben Handlogten have been acquired from the Utah Jazz in exchange for forward Tom Gugliotta, two conditional first-round draft picks, a 2005 second-round draft pick and an undisclosed sum of cash."


I dont like that trade at all Clark might not be the same plus they gaved up 3 draft picks? Thats just bananas.

[og15]

It's fine because they gave away the Knicks pick, and the Knicks are going to make the playoffs, therefore it won't be a high pick. They still have their own first round pick which should be pretty high. This draft has been projected as weak, so their shouldn't be much in the mid-late first round.

The management isn't stupid enough to trade their pick when their is a chance it would be a 1st pick.

[Phoenix78]

Sunday, February 22, 2004
ESPN 7:00pm EST (4:00pm PST)
Phoenix Suns vs. Los Angeles Lakers

Sure, the Lakers will probably win by 10-15 points, but I like to watch as many Suns games as possible.

OCT 28, 30 | NOV 12, 20 | DEC 11, 18
JAN 9, 23, 27 | FEB 10, 22, 27 | MAR 15 | APR 9

[Blackwiz]

Sunday, February 22, 2004
ESPN 7:00pm EST (4:00pm PST)
Phoenix Suns vs. Los Angeles Lakers

Sure, the Lakers will probably win by 10-15 points, but I like to watch as many Suns games as possible.

OCT 28, 30 | NOV 12, 20 | DEC 11, 18
JAN 9, 23, 27 | FEB 10, 22, 27 | MAR 15 | APR 9

im definitely watchin that game.....u know Kobe or Shaq or both are gonna have 30 point games

[Phoenix78]

Friday, February 27, 2004
ESPN 9:30pm EST (6:30pm PST)
Phoenix Suns (19-40) @ Seattle SuperSonics (26-31)

If Shawn Marion isn't injured, I think this is a game Phoenix should win. Even if he is out, Phoenix should still have a chance.


OCT 28, 30 | NOV 12, 20 | DEC 11, 18
JAN 9, 23, 27 | FEB 10, 22, 27 | MAR 15 | APR 9

[og15]

Yea, we can get a streak going, 2 games baby.

I hope Marion is back though, you know who I love though, I mean apart from Marion and Amare, Barbosa, I never knew that guy was such a good shooter. Those long arms a scary too, but my bro called him being a good player, during the draft he was so high on the guy and giving him praises.

[ANGELFUNK & TMAC]

Barbosa is one of the quickest players in the L, when moving the ball.
Its not his first stepts just the way he pushes the ball in transition....

He has a while before we can call him a good player.....maybe soon tho and he plays with alot of heart....

peace

[og15]

Yea he's real fast, his footspeed is amazing, Nene's got great footspeed too.

http://www.nba.com/suns/news/reporters_notebook.html

Suns rookie Maciej Lampe was activated this afternoon and saw four minutes of action in tonight's win over the New Jersey Nets. The youngest player ever to play for the Suns, Lampe was placed on the injured list with shin splints on Feb. 19 and missed five contests. The 6-11, 275-pound big man, who turned 19 last month, has averaged 2.0 points and 1.0 rebounds in three games with Phoenix after he was acquired from New York in a trade on Jan. 5. The Suns now have 12 players on the active roster with recently acquired Keon Clark still on the injured list.


They list him as being 275, and he was listed at 240 before, so if he's gained some muscle then that extremely impressive. Well what else would you do when your on the IL with a fake injury.

[og15]

"The way it was in Phoenix, it was hard to stay focused and go to practice every day with a good attitude. It was hard to have fun," Gugliotta said. "I was a gerbil in Phoenix, running on the treadmill for countless hours."


You weren't that helpful to the team, you were taking up a lot of cap room and also hindering the team from making signing b/c of your huge salary.[/quote]

[Phoenix78]

Monday, March 15, 2004
TNT 7:30pm EST (4:30pm PST)
Phoenix Suns (21-45) @ Houston Rockets (39-26)
Game #67 Road Game #34

OCT 28, 30 | NOV 12, 20 | DEC 11, 18
JAN 9, 23, 27 | FEB 10, 22, 27 | MAR 15 | APR 9


"In their last matchup in February, the Suns had the good fortune of going up against a Rockets team that didn't have the services of Steve Francis. The Suns beat up on Houston 99-79, after the guard was forced to sit out after missing the team flight. The Rockets definitely missed their assists leader who is also second on the team in scoring right behind Yao Ming. Speaking of the center, Head Coach Jeff Van Gundy's talk with him has really paid off. Yao's been more aggressive this season, adding offense to his already stifling defense."


"The Rockets will play host to the Phoenix Suns tonight at Toyota Center for the final time this season (6:30 p.m. CT; TNT). Houston has struggled against Phoenix this season, dropping two of three games. The Rockets have encountered difficulties matching up with the Suns athleticism in the earlier meetings. Versatile Phoenix forward Shawn Marion went off for 31 points while shooting guard Joe Johnson poured in 27 during Houston’s most recent visit to Phoenix (a 99-79 loss on Feb. 2), in what perhaps was Houston’s low point of the season."


http://www.nba.com/games/20040315/PHOHOU/preview.html


http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/preview040315.html




http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/dancers_index0304_430w.jpg (http://www.nba.com/rockets/dance/0304dancers_index.html)

[og15]

Lampe Produces (http://www.nba.com/games/20040320/MILPHO/boxscore.html)

Lampe scored 17 points (6-15), had 7 rebounds, and 2 assists in 26 minutes.

Buck Bucks, what is happening to you.

The future of Pheonix is looking even brighter with Lamper looking promising.

[emilio8605]

Yeah, Lampe looked great. But the highlight of the night was Charles Barkley's induction into the Suns' Ring of Honor (the equivalent of having your jersey retired). I was there, very emotional night for Charles. Guest speakers included Suns Chairman Jerry Colangelo, former Suns teammate Dan Majerle, Hall of Famer and fellow TNT broadcaster Magic Johnson, and legendary Bill Russell (a rare treat for the Suns fans in attendance).

[og15]

http://www.nba.com/media/suns/future_ownership_335.jpg

Colangelo Announces Plan for Future (http://www.nba.com/suns/news/ownership_presser_040416.html)

Posted: April 16, 2004

Chairman and CEO Jerry Colangelo today unveiled a plan for the future of the Phoenix Suns that includes Colangelo continuing in his current role, and an ownership transition to a group headed by banking and real estate executive, Robert Sarver, an Arizona native. Colangelo made the announcement at a news conference at America West Arena. The transaction is valued at $401 million, a record price for an NBA franchise operation.

“A short time ago, I laid out a blueprint for the future of the Phoenix Suns organization in the Valley,” said Colangelo. “Today, I can announce that we have a plan in place that achieves every goal I set and secures the future of this franchise.”

Colangelo introduced Robert Sarver, 42, a banking and real estate executive who will be the major investor and Managing Partner of a new ownership group that will purchase the Suns over the next three years.

The plan calls for Colangelo to remain in his role as Chairman and CEO.

Sarver introduced two members of his new ownership group, former University of Arizona and NBA player and current TNT broadcaster, Steve Kerr, and Bryan Colangelo, the team’s current President and General Manager. Additional investors will be announced at a later date, and some current investors in the Suns are expected to join the new ownership group.


Sold for $401 Million - Robert Sarver, Steve Kerr, Bryan Colangelo lead the group that also includes Charles Barkley and Sean Elliott.

[og15]

But this one comes with a twist. If this young Suns team continues to develop and if the younger Colangelo adroitly adds to the mix, Steve Kerr may never step into the role as new general manager. In fact, Kerr may remain nothing more than Sarver's confidant, content to broadcast NBA games and spend time with his family.

Conversely, if there are any derelict draft picks or disastrous contracts looming in the future, Kerr may replace Colangelo the moment the three-year window has expired.

For the kid who has dealt with the suffocating shadows of a famous father for most of his adult life, it is truly time to sink or swim.

B. Colangelo gets chance to cast his own shadow (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/0419bickley0419.html)

[Phoenix78]

Phoenix should at least be able to get the #8 playoff spot next year.




postseason
Shawn Marion
Howard Eisley
Jahidi White
Amare Stoudemire
Joe Johnson
Jake Voskuhl (not sure if he's a free agent)
Zarko Cabarkapa
Casey Jacobsen
Leandro Barbosa
Maciej Lampe

Free Agents
Antonio McDyess
Keon Clark
Donnell Harvey

Previously Waived
Charlie Ward
Scott Williams
Ben Handlogten

Draft
2004 second-round pick (to Orlando)
conditional 2005 second-round pick (from Orlando)
rights to guard Milos Vujanic (2002 pick of New York)
2004 unconditional first-round pick (from New York)
conditional future first round pick (from New York)
two conditional first-round picks (to Utah)
2005 second-round pick (to Utah)

[og15]

This past week word out of Orlando was that if McGrady wouldn't agree to stay past next season - when he becomes a free agent - then he will be traded. McGrady has let those close to him know he is interested in playing for the Suns. The Suns know this and are ready to pounce should that opportunity present itself.

But first they have their sights set on Bryant, and they believe they can get him. In all likelihood Bryant will leave the Los Angeles Lakers and all of the problems that have arisen from his relationships with Phil Jackson and Shaquille O'Neal. Bryant is not liked by his teammates. It is not his team. He has not been given the same credit that Shaq has gotten for the Lakers' success. It is time to move on and establish a new identity. To lead a new team to championship and get the recognition and respect that should come with it.

Bryant is at the top of the Suns' wish list. There are about 50 scenarios the Suns are looking at but No. 1 is Bryant. He would give them the toughness they are looking for, he would become the leader of the team, and he would fill America West Arena on a regular basis. And with the right talent around him, he could lift the Suns to the top of the NBA.

While getting Bryant could be as easy as offering him the maximum amount available as a free agent should he opt out of his current contract, getting McGrady now will not be that easy. To get McGrady, the Suns would have to give up players and possibly draft picks. Which is why the Suns will be reluctant to get McGrady before knowing about Bryant. And having been burned by Antonio McDyess before entering a contract year, the Suns would want assurances that if they traded for McGrady he wouldn't bolt when he becomes a free agent after next season.

The Suns would not want to give up the farm to get McGrady and then somehow not get Bryant, leaving McGrady in a similar situation to what he went through in Orlando this year. Any deal involving McGrady would include former All-Star forward Shawn Marion, who like McGrady is a maximum contract player. Marion has tremendous value around the league. He is young, athletic, has been an All-Star, represented the United States at the World Championships and comes with no baggage. He is a good player, not a great player, but a good one. Any team would love to have him. Throw in the Suns' first-round pick, which will be somewhere in the top 7 and a serviceable role player, which the Suns have plenty of, and Orlando General Manager John Weisbrod may be hard pressed to find a better deal.

Suns in best position ever to give Colangelo a ring (http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cheapseats/gambo/0419rant.html)

The article is very long, that's not even half of it but its interesting.

[Phoenix78]

Tracy McGrady might be a better basketball player, but I'd rather have the Suns keep Shawn Marion.

Whatever roster changes Phoenix makes, I'd like them to hold on to Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudemire, and I suppose Joe Johnson.

[og15]

Shaq of old seems absent (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/printedition/cs-0404260207apr26,1,6491575.story?coll=cs-sports-print)


The word around the NBA is that McGrady is out of Orlando this summer. The combination of new management, the miserable season and McGrady's refusal to confirm whether he'd stay after next season (when he will be a free agent) has led Magic management to search for a deal. Expect it to be with the Suns, who are under new ownership and looking for a star to fill some seats. And that should work for McGrady, who'll need to assure the team he is sent to he'll sign. He'll do that with the Suns so he can play with Orlando buddy Amare Stoudemire, the big man he never could get with the Magic. It probably would take Shawn Marion, Joe Johnson and a No. 1 pick to get it done. But where were the Suns going with the team they've got?

[Phoenix78]

Suns News
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cheapseats/gambo/0531rant.html
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=23425

I'm going to be disappointed if the Suns spend all this time freeing up cap room and their team isn't any better than last season. I have a feeling they're not going to get Kobe or Tracy, but if they can get 1 or 2 good players, that should be fine.


current roster
Shawn Marion
Howard Eisley
Jahidi White
Amare Stoudemire
Joe Johnson
Jake Voskuhl
Zarko Cabarkapa
Casey Jacobsen
Leandro Barbosa
Maciej Lampe

Free Agents
Antonio McDyess
Keon Clark
Donnell Harvey

Draft
rights to guard Milos Vujanic (2002 pick of New York)
one first round pick (http://www.nba.com/media/suns/taurasi_335_040526.jpg) (No. 7)

[Pointguard13]

PG- D. Harris/Barbosa/Eisley
SG- J. Johnson/ Jacobson
SF- Marion
PF- Stoudimire/Cabarkapa/Lampe
C- Okur/Voshkul

**Uses 1st round pick on Harris or Gordon

***Uses FA money on Okur and another 6th man off the bench.

[X Dah Creator]

Looks like a nice lineup but I dont really like Okur his game feels kinda weak after seeing him in the playoffs.

[Pointguard13]

I agree...but i think he just lost his confidence and was only getting around 10 minutes or so a game in the playoffs...

He is a talent and only like 23 years old.

[Phoenix78]

http://www.nba.com/suns/photogallery/2004_draft_gallery.html
http://www.nba.com/suns/news/draft_release_040624.html
http://www.nba.com/suns/news/vroman_040624.html
http://www.nba.com/suns/news/report_040624.html

*looks again at Suns roster*

Shawn Marion
Amare Stoudemire
Joe Johnson
Casey Jacobsen
Zarko Cabarkapa
Leandro Barbosa
Jake Voskuhl
Howard Eisley
Maciej Lampe

rights to Jackson Vroman
rights to Milos Vujanic

I'd like to see the Suns resign Antonio McDyess and hopefully get something out of the Free Agent market. Maybe it's foolish, but I still think the Suns should get 40+ wins next season.

[Phoenix78]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1833028
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BKN_SUNS_NASH?SITE=AZMES&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=24102
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/0702suns0702.html

"Per NBA rules, no deals can be officially signed until July 14"

It doesn't look like anything else is going to happen for the Suns, so I hope this deal goes through.




Steve Nash
Leandro Barbosa
rights to Milos Vujanic (probably staying in Europe this season)
Howard Eisley

Joe Johnson
Casey Jacobsen

Shawn Marion
Zarko Cabarkapa

Amare Stoudemire
rights to Jackson Vroman

Jake Voskuhl
Maciej Lampe

Antonio McDyess (maybe)

[Detroit_balla42]

I agree...but i think he just lost his confidence and was only getting around 10 minutes or so a game in the playoffs...

He is a talent and only like 23 years old.

Man, what? He hasnt lost confidence, the Pistons just didnt need him at times. They needed Elden Campbell more because he was bigger. Okur is more torwards offense than defense also. Larry Brown doesnt want him on the perimiter as much and thats why he gets like 10 minutes a game.

When he is playing some good minutes, he can rip up some teams when he wants to.

[Penny]

Not sure if anyone else has noticed, maybe you have, not only are the Phoenix Suns playing great basketball, not only are they doing it with Shawn Marion playing at the PF position, but they are scoring a huge amount of points.
This is directly linked to the play of Steve Nash. I mean has anyone being paying attention to him? He could have a John Stockton type year (in terms of assists).

Let me just break it down for people;

Nov 3 ATL W 112-82 12pts 4 asst
Nov 5 @ PHI W 108-98 9pts 10asst
Nov 6 @ NJN W 112-80 17pts 8asst

Nov 9 @ CHI W 94-74 8pts 12 asst
Nov 10 @ CLE L 109-114 15pts 17asst
Nov 13 SAC L 111-113 29pts 7asst

Nov 16 @ DAL W 107-101 17pts 8asst
Nov 17 @ NOR W 95-84 16pts 12asst
Nov 19 LAL W 107-102 18pts 16asst

(Today's game) Nov 21 @LAC W 122-111 22pts 18asst

Steve Nash is averaging 13 assists in his last 6 games, 15.3 assists in his last 3 games.

Season Averages
16.3pts 11.2asst
Right now the top PG in the league with Steve Francis not too far behind, Stephon Marbury somewhere in the mix.

True it does help having 4 other offensive weapons on the starting line-up but he is paying dividends for the Phoenix Suns organisation which really needs this boost after under-achieving seasons in prior years.

I had my worries when they announced that they were going to play small ball, by playing Shawn Marion at the PF position, but I guess the risk is paying off.
Amare Stoudemire is just destorying his defenders, is there any stopping him right now? I mean another 30+pts performance today.
http://www.nba.com/games/20041121/PHOLAC/boxscore.html

He could very well average 27pts 10rebs on the year, which is quite the achievement considering he almost went for a 20pts 10reb season last year. Amazing how Steve Nash has improved his game.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/amare_stoudemire/index.html

The Phoenix Suns are going to roll through into the playoffs, no problems, and have a legitimate chance at capturing their division.
I must say initially I thought by playing all those scorers was going to decrease everyones stats, but Steve Nash is distributing that ball very well right now, hence their 8 - 2 record, and a 4 game winning streak.

I am paying close attention to this streak he is having right now, I advise everyone else to as well.

[Pointguard13]

Get back to me in March and we'll see how old Nashy is holding up :wink:

[dirtybirdie]

I have always liked the Suns this years good start makes me so happy

I have 2 hopes....

1.Nash doesnt get injured and we continue playing like this
2. Richardson learns to play some Defense or gets traded

[big ED]

I love Nash for 3 reasons:

1- scrappy
2- unselfish
3- ugly white canadien hobo (j/k)

[Pointguard13]

I have always liked the Suns this years good start makes me so happy

I have 2 hopes....

1.Nash doesnt get injured and we continue playing like this
2. Richardson learns to play some Defense or gets traded

Don't expect him to get injuried but he'll wear down and wont be as effective, though still good, later in the season

[AIRjordan23]

yea phoenix is doing great but how could you suspect them not to do great with the line up they have
pg nash
sg johnson
sf richardson
pf marion
c amare

[Pointguard13]

yea phoenix is doing great but how could you suspect them not to do great with the line up they have
pg nash
sg johnson
sf richardson
pf marion
c amare

B/C they are freaking small 8)

[dirtybirdie]

whats wrong with small people???? you hatin'????


Anyway another win for us agaisnt the Bucks...... nash 22 ponts 12 assists and sme steals. Q had 23.....


GO SUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

[Pointguard13]

whats wrong with small people???? you hatin'???



No not quite. I don't know where you get I hate small people (my user name is point guard and point guards are normally small..and I am :wink: ) but the fact is it is gonn abe very tough for them to win in the playoffs.

[clutch120]

You don't got love for EARL?!!? hehe...

:shock: Suns rally past Warriors for 12th win in last 13 games :shock:

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/gamecenter/recap/NBA_20041207_GS@PHO


....and these bums thought he was "overpayed"... "too old"... sheesh

[clutch120]

I know there are some Suns fans out there
This isn't a winning thread but s'all good. :D

Boy, what a difference the year makes :wink:

[batron]

Yeah, the Suns are really amazing, but for some reason I just don't see them doing this all season long. They really aren't very deep, luckily for them they are very young so they can keep their starts on the floor for a long time. But any break in that starting 5 will really hurt them.

[Pointguard13]

You don't got love for EARL?!!? hehe...

:shock: Suns rally past Warriors for 12th win in last 13 games :shock:

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/gamecenter/recap/NBA_20041207_GS@PHO


....and these bums thought he was "overpayed"... "too old"... sheesh

he is over-paided, but so are most NBA players, so is there such thing as a player being over-paided? (rhetorical ?)

Lets wait until April and see how old STEVIE is doing? I'm a huge fan, but always is when he has fresh legs.

[clutch120]

Yeah, the Suns are really amazing, but for some reason I just don't see them doing this all season long. They really aren't very deep, luckily for them they are very young so they can keep their starts on the floor for a long time. But any break in that starting 5 will really hurt them.

They wont be a top team in the league, but they will be reminiscent of the Suns 02-03... only better.

[clutch120]

Stoudemire stats- 36/15/8

He needs to work on the 5 turnovers tho....

If steve wouldve had one more point, 6 players would have been in double digits.

How can people not consider Stoudemire an early MVP candidate? For that matter, could THREE SUNS players be in the allstar game this year ???

[Pointguard13]

How can people not consider Stoudemire an early MVP candidate? For that matter, could THREE SUNS players be in the allstar game this year ???

Nash is a lock if he continues his play.

I think Marion and Stoudimire will have a tough time with all the good Forwards in the league. Yet with ak47 out another month, that should open his spot up for someone else, so they have a chance. It's just as liekly that niether of them make it as both of them do.

[og15]

I know there are some Suns fans out there
This isn't a winning thread but s'all good. :D

Boy, what a difference the year makes :wink:
:lol: :D

[clutch120]

How can people not consider Stoudemire an early MVP candidate? For that matter, could THREE SUNS players be in the allstar game this year ???

Nash is a lock if he continues his play.

I think Marion and Stoudimire will have a tough time with all the good Forwards in the league. Yet with ak47 out another month, that should open his spot up for someone else, so they have a chance. It's just as liekly that niether of them make it as both of them do.

You think Amare would easily be All-Star PF in the East? I beleive so.

[Pointguard13]

How can people not consider Stoudemire an early MVP candidate? For that matter, could THREE SUNS players be in the allstar game this year ???

Nash is a lock if he continues his play.

I think Marion and Stoudimire will have a tough time with all the good Forwards in the league. Yet with ak47 out another month, that should open his spot up for someone else, so they have a chance. It's just as liekly that niether of them make it as both of them do.

You think Amare would easily be All-Star PF in the East? I beleive so.

No doubt in the East. JO is the best PF yet he will barely play any games and then you got what Walker/Jamison as the nest best PF? :lol: :roll: :lol: :roll:

Yet it will be tough in the east unless Amare plays the backup C role.

[og15]

Jamison isn't much to laugh about, 22.4 points, 9.5 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.65 turnovers on 44% shooting, 40.9 minutes.

vs

Amare 26.4 points, 9.3 rebounds, 1.85 blocks, 57% shooting, 38.6 minutes.

Amare is also going to make it in the West anyways, he'll be voted in as backup center by the coaches, he isn't playing PF, Marion is PF.

[Mariners in 2006]

Jamison isn't much to laugh about, 22.4 points, 9.5 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.65 turnovers on 44% shooting, 40.9 minutes.
I agree, I think he will win comeback player of the year this season, I also think he will be starting for the East.

[Pointguard13]

Jamison isn't much to laugh about, 22.4 points, 9.5 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.65 turnovers on 44% shooting, 40.9 minutes.

Considering he would has been the best PF in the EAST this season and their are at least 4 to maybe even 6 PF's in the West who have been better, its pretty sad.

[og15]

Jamison isn't much to laugh about, 22.4 points, 9.5 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.65 turnovers on 44% shooting, 40.9 minutes.

Considering he would has been the best PF in the EAST this season and their are at least 4 to maybe even 6 PF's in the West who have been better, its pretty sad.
Well when you have Duncan, KG and Dirk, and then Boozer, Odom and Kmart move to the West, it's hard to maintain good PF's, the West just steals them all.

....and even then, his numbers would still be pretty good even if compared to the Western guys...

[clutch120]

Jamison isn't much to laugh about, 22.4 points, 9.5 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.65 turnovers on 44% shooting, 40.9 minutes.
I agree, I think he will win comeback player of the year this season, I also think he will be starting for the East.

Even if there was such reward, they would give that to Grant Hill by far.

[Mariners in 2006]

Jamison isn't much to laugh about, 22.4 points, 9.5 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.65 turnovers on 44% shooting, 40.9 minutes.
I agree, I think he will win comeback player of the year this season, I also think he will be starting for the East.

Even if there was such reward, they would give that to Grant Hill by far.
I meant Most Improved...

[Phoenix78]

Wednesday, December 15, 2004
ESPN 10:30pm EST (7:30pm PST)
Utah Jazz (10-12) @ Phoenix Suns (18-3)

http://www.nba.com/games/20041215/UTAPHO/preview.html


"To say Utah has had a rough go if it so far this season is an understatement. They spent big money to bring the likes of Carlos Boozer to town, but it hasn't exactly equated to tallies in the team's win column. A recent losing streak forced the Jazz to the bottom of the new Northwest Division cellar, and with so many preseason predictions building them up early, that equates to a big-time disappointment thus far for Jazz fans. Suns fans weathered their 2003-04 disappointment, and now they're being rewarded with some solid play."


With Andrei Kirilenko still injured, this game should be an easy win for the Suns.

[Pointguard13]

Jamison isn't much to laugh about, 22.4 points, 9.5 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.65 turnovers on 44% shooting, 40.9 minutes.

Considering he would has been the best PF in the EAST this season and their are at least 4 to maybe even 6 PF's in the West who have been better, its pretty sad.
Well when you have Duncan, KG and Dirk, and then Boozer, Odom and Kmart move to the West, it's hard to maintain good PF's, the West just steals them all.

....and even then, his numbers would still be pretty good even if compared to the Western guys...

Yea, but regardless, Jamison has been the best PF in the East so far and I'd take at least 4, maybe 5-6 to who have better or just as good. Nothing against Antawn cuz I like him, but as the best PF in the east is kinda weak [obviously]

[dirtybirdie]

Jamison is a natural Sf is he not? Only playing PF cuz Kwame a scrub and Etan injured? am i not correct? lets get back to ...

[clutch120]

Jamison isn't much to laugh about, 22.4 points, 9.5 rebounds, 2.8 assists, 1.65 turnovers on 44% shooting, 40.9 minutes.

Considering he would has been the best PF in the EAST this season and their are at least 4 to maybe even 6 PF's in the West who have been better, its pretty sad.
Well when you have Duncan, KG and Dirk, and then Boozer, Odom and Kmart move to the West, it's hard to maintain good PF's, the West just steals them all.

....and even then, his numbers would still be pretty good even if compared to the Western guys...

Yea, but regardless, Jamison has been the best PF in the East so far and I'd take at least 4, maybe 5-6 to who have better or just as good. Nothing against Antawn cuz I like him, but as the best PF in the east is kinda weak [obviously]

I think its funny how you two think that popularity and statistics are EVERYTHING :roll:

There are more levels to a players worth than just whats seen on ESPN....

[clutch120]

SONICS VS. SUNS TONIGHT ON ESPN :shock:

Should be a great game, but alas, I can't watch it, gotta blind date :wink: (Maybe I'll skip the blind date...)

[clutch120]

I'm guessing nobody hear likes the Suns. (Or, they are tired of being beat by them :wink: ) Are yall afraid of being labeled bandwagonners? You can't argue that this is one of the most intriguing teams to watch, and the most fun.

I ride with Stevie, the Mavs, and I give credit to my hometown Pacerboyz. ( G'Luck to them on XMAS). So I'm not a 'jumper'...

[SAXMANLA]

I'm guessing nobody hear likes the Suns. (Or, they are tired of being beat by them :wink: ) Are yall afraid of being labeled bandwagonners? You can't argue that this is one of the most intriguing teams to watch, and the most fun.

I ride with Stevie, the Mavs, and I give credit to my hometown Pacerboyz. ( G'Luck to them on XMAS). So I'm not a 'jumper'...

bottom line is come april unless an inside presence is formed, the following teams will be planning a very early exit from the playoffs...

PHEONIX
SEATTLE
UTAH
AND YES MY BELOVED LAKERS

and by inside presence i don't mean stoudemire dunking on everyon to complet a fatbreak dish from nash.

i mean a presence like kg, duncan, shaq, jermaine, etc. these guys control the game from the post

[og15]

I don't think both Utah and the Lakers will be making the playoffs even, one will, but I don't see them both making it, not that it can't happen.

[clutch120]

The team that will beat the Suns in the playoffs is the team that will find away to moderate the tempo of this team. There's no way in hell you can slow this team down, you can only contain their rhythm, whether that be inside presence or more agility present in the opponents roster depth (That should be the key)

[Phoenix78]

Wednesday, January 5, 2005
ESPN 9:00pm EST (6:00pm PST)
Phoenix Suns (27-4) @ Houston Rockets (16-15)

http://www.nba.com/games/20050105/PHOHOU/preview.html

"Rockets center Yao Ming, the leading vote-getter for this year's All-Star Game in Denver, gets an early warm-up to the mid-season exhibition with a match-up against the collective All-Star play of the Suns. With Phoenix's ballot boys Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Quentin Richardson, Joe Johnson and Shawn Marion firing on all cylinders, Yao and Tracy McGrady will have their hands full trying to slow down the top-scoring team in the NBA."

"This is the first of four meetings between the two clubs this season… Phoenix won 18 of the last 30 contests against Houston and have won three in a row… Phoenix owns an 83-76 overall edge in the series that dates back to 12/6/68 when the Rockets were located in San Diego… Phoenix is 54-26 all-time playing in the Valley of the Sun and 29-50 at Houston."




Are yall afraid of being labeled bandwagonners?

Someone called me a bandwagonner, which was funny (yet also a little annoying) since I've been a Suns fan for a little over 10 years. I'm very excited that the Suns are doing well this season, but I know they probably won't get to the NBA Finals. If I'm lucky, I'll get to watch them lose to the Spurs in the Western Finals.

[Phoenix78]

Thursday, February 17, 2005
TNT 10:30pm EST (7:30pm PST)
Dallas (34-16) @ Phoenix (41-12)

http://www.nba.com/games/20050217/DALPHO/preview.html

"Like any good story, there are tons of subplots surrounding tonight's game. In addition to having a national TV audience for the late start time, it's Steve Nash Bobblehead Night. And on top of that, you've got the veteran playmaker taking on his former team. Ask Nash, and he'd be the first to tell you it's just another game, but how can you not think the talented point guard will step things up just a little bit. The only player in the NBA to average double figures in assists this season, Nash is also posting a career high .519 field goal percentage in this his ninth NBA season."

Upcoming games on TV:
Thu Feb 17 TNT
Thu Mar 03 TNT
Fri Mar 25 ESPN
Wed Mar 30 ESPN
Sat Apr 09 ESPN
Wed Apr 20 ESPN

"The Suns entire starting five will be attend All-Star Weekend in Denver, Colorado on Feb. 18-20… Shawn Marion, Steve Nash and Amaré Stoudemire were named as reserves on for the All-Star Game and Quentin Richardson and Joe Johnson will participate in the Foot Locker Three-Point Shootout on All-Star Saturday… Nash will also be a participant in the Playstation Skills Challenge, an obstacle course contest featuring the league’s top point guards… Marion will join WNBA and Phoenix Mercury guard Diana Taurasi and Suns legend Dan Majerle in the RadioShack Shooting Stars competition on All-Star Saturday… The Suns are the first team to send a trio to the All-Star Game since the Lakers had four in 1998 and it’s only the second time in franchise history the team has sent three players to the All-Star Game (1981, Walter Davis, Truck Robinson, Dennis Johnson)."

[Pointguard13]

Should be a good game. Marquis Daniels is out for the game and Stackhouse and Dampier are still question marks for the game.

[Phoenix78]

Monday, April 18, 2005
TNT 10:00pm EDT (7:00pm PDT)
Denver Nuggets (48-32) @ Phoenix Suns (61-19)

http://www.nba.com/games/20050418/DENPHO/preview.html

"This marks the fourth and final match-up between these the Nuggets and Suns this regular season. Depending on how the playoffs play out, it is possible for the two to meet in the postseason, but it doesn't look like that will happen in the first round. Denver's sitting at the seventh spot which puts them right in the crosshairs of the San Antonio Spurs for a probable first-round meeting. The Suns will most likely have Memphis but with a few games to go, anything is still possible. That's the big reason the Suns still need to play 'em out and dispose of visiting Denver, but it won't be a gimme. Look for the suddenly hot Nuggets to keep things interesting until the final horn."

"Denver swept the season series for the time ever last season, but the Suns have won 23 of the last 32 against Denver, including the first three meetings this season... The Suns are seeking their first season sweep over the Nuggets since the 2000-01 season… Phoenix is 44-17 all-time playing in the Valley of the Sun and 28-35 all-time in Mile High City… Phoenix held Denver to 65 points to tie the fewest allowed ever by the Suns (Chicago had 65 on 3/6/75) and that total also set an America West Arena low… The Nuggets also shot .263 (20-76) from the field to set a Suns opponent low, a Denver offensive low and an AWA mark for lowest field goal percentage in a game."




* Phoenix (61-19) is 2 games ahead of the San Antonio Spurs (59-21) and can clinch the No. 1 seed in the Western Conference and earn home-court advantage throughout the playoffs with a win tonight or Spurs loss at Memphis.

* Phoenix has reached the 60-win plateau for only the second time in franchise history (62-20 in 1992-93)

* Phoenix needs to win its final two games to post its franchise-best single-season win total (63-19), surpassing the team’s top mark of 62-20 in 1992-93, the only season the Suns finished with the best record in the NBA.

* Suns All-Star forward Shawn Marion has always been a jack-of-all-trades player and one of the more versatile players in the NBA, but now in his sixth NBA season, he’s taken his game to another level…. The Matrix, who is averaging a career-high 11.4 rebounds (3rd) to go along with his 2.01 steals (4th), is only the second NBA player (David Robinson, 1991-92) ever to rank in the top 5 in both categories since the NBA started to track steals in the 1973-74 season.

* Suns guard Steve Nash is leading the league in assists at 11.5 per game, the highest assist average in the league since John Stockton averaged 12.3 dishes in 1994-95… Since 1990-91, only John Stockton (six times), Magic Johnson (once) and Mark Jackson (once) have averaged 11-plus assists in a single season… Three times this season Nash has recorded a double-digit assist streak of 11 games of more, including a franchise-best 14-game streak from March 6-April 3 (Nash had 9 assists in 24 minutes vs. Lakers on 4/5)… In doing so, Nash is one of only seven players since 1970 to notch double figures in assists in 14 or more consecutive games (John Stockton, Magic Johnson, Nate Archibald, Isiah Thomas, Nate Archibald, Kevin Porter)… Nash has notched double figures in assists in 58 of 74 games played this season, including 31 in the last 34 games heading into tonight’s contest vs. Denver on 4/18.

* Only three point guards in NBA history have won league MVP (Bob Cousy, Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson), but Suns playmaker Steve Nash is building a strong case to become the fourth… Not only has Nash been the catalyst for one of the NBA history’s biggest turnarounds (the Suns are only the ninth team in NBA history to post a 50-win season with a 50-loss season), his 11.5 assists average is the most in the last decade since John Stockton averaged 12.3 in 1994-95… Only three MVP winners have ever led the league in assists (Cousy in 1956-57, Robertson in 1963-64, Johnson in 1986-87)… In fact, only five guards have ever captured the MVP honor (Cousy, Robertson, Johnson, Michael Jordan, Allen Iverson)… Interestingly, should he win the honor, Nash would have the third lowest scoring average of any MVP (Wes Unseld, 13.8 in 1968-69/ Bill Russell, 14.1 in 1964-65)… The 6-3 Nash would also become the third shortest player to win the award behind 6-0 Iverson and 6-1 Cousy.

[Phoenix78]

At the end of the 1st quarter, Joe Johnson already had 18 points, Steve Nash already had 8 assists, and Phoenix as a team already had 44 points.
This game was a great game to watch :)

Final (http://www.nba.com/games/20050418/DENPHO/boxscore.html)
DEN 114
PHX 128

Phoenix shot 57% from the field (including 52% from 3-point land)
Joe Johnson 26pts
Amare Stoudemire 26pts
Steve Nash 13ast
Shawn Marion 9reb

The Western Conference playoff matchups are set. Phoenix will play Memphis in the 1st round.

[og15]

Memphis is too injured to to anything agaisnt Phoenix, they will be spanked.

[Pointguard13]

I guarentee the game will go 6 at the very least.

[og15]

Definately could, Memphis has beaten Phoenix twice this season, and matchup well with them. Also they can contain Amare if they focus on it because they have very comparable athletes, and they have done it before, but it will be interesting.

If they focus on taking out Amare, the Suns still have 4 other starters, and 2-3 guys off the bench who can come at them. Then again, Memphis has about the first 10 players on their roster who can come at the Suns on any night.

[Phoenix78]

Wednesday, April 20, 2005
ESPN 10:30pm EDT (7:30pm PDT)
Phoenix Suns (62-19) @ Sacramento Kings (49-32)

http://www.nba.com/games/20050420/PHOSAC/preview.html

"While most of the playoff seedings have long been set by this point, take nothing away from tonight's regular-season finale. This will be the last chance for both clubs to hone what skills got them to this point before the start of all those "best of" series coming up. With the best record in the Pacific Division, the Suns can use tonight's match-up as a possible preview of a later-round Western Conference showdown with the Kings. Still, nothing would be better than to close out the regular season than a win. Unfortunately, the Kings would say the same thing."

"Phoenix needs to win its final game to post its franchise-best single-season win total (63-19), surpassing the team’s top mark of 62-20 in 1992-93, the only other season the Suns finished with the best record in the NBA. This year’s Suns squad is already guaranteed to finish with the NBA”s best record."

http://www.nba.com/suns/history/00692486.html



* Phoenix (62-19) clinched the No. 1 seed in the Western Conference and earned home-court advantage throughout the playoffs after the Grizzlies defeated the Spurs on 4/18 (the Suns later beat the Nuggets)

* Phoenix has matched the club record single season record of 62-20 set 1992-93

* The Suns have the most wins in the NBA since the 1999-00 Los Angeles Lakers (67-15)

* Phoenix is one of only six NBA teams ever to win at least 31 games at home and on the road in a single season (1971-72 Los Angeles Lakers, 1995-96 Chicago Bulls, 1972-73 Boston Celtics, 1991-92 Chicago Bulls, 1999-00 Los Angeles Lakers)



Phoenix will host Memphis in Game 1 of their best-of-seven opening round playoff series at America West Arena on Sunday evening (10:30pm EDT on TNT).

[og15]

They lost the game, Nash didn't play, and Marion only played 18 minutes. Q-Rich also returned and showed that he could be the X-Factor for the opposing team in the playoffs with his shot jacking.

Amare was also 2-2 from 3PT range in the game, I guess the Suns were just having fun out there :lol:

[Phoenix78]

Tuesday, March 21, 2006
TNT 10:30pm EST (7:00pm PST)
Phoenix Suns (45-20) @ Utah Jazz (31-35)

http://www.nba.com/games/20060321/PHXUTA/preview.html


I think that the Suns will end the regular season with a record around 57-25 (.695)
It also seems to me that Amare Stoudemire should come back on April 5, since Phoenix has two home games in a row on April 5 and 7.

[ut_jazz]

Tuesday, March 21, 2006
TNT 10:30pm EST (7:00pm PST)
Phoenix Suns (45-20) @ Utah Jazz (31-35)

http://www.nba.com/games/20060321/PHXUTA/preview.html

Wohoo, some national TV for the jazz to beat the suns...Prepare for the great Milt Palacio phoenix! But seriously it should be a fun game, to watch, jazz are down right now but i know we aren't going to give up on the playoff spot.

[batron]

Boozers first game against the Suns since he broke his foot in Phoenix last season.

[machine24]

I hate to say this, but phoenix have dropped down to being my 3rd favorite behind Dallas and now Sacramento.

I dont like Raja Bell, never have and I absolutely LOATHE Tim Thomas.

Since He joined Phoenix I just have a hard time watching Phoenix now. When Amare came back I watched a couple games but now I seem to find myself only DVR'ing Dallas and Sac games and not even bothering with Phoenix unless they play someone good.

Ill root for them in the playoffs but Ill probably root for Sac if they were to meet Phoenix in the first round, which its not lookin likely since Sac are probably in the 8th spot to stay.

[og15]

What's wrong with Raja Bell? I can understand Tim Thomas, but Raja?

[machine24]

I cant put my finger on it. I like his game but just something about him makes it hard for me to root for him. I didnt like him at Dallas either.

Are there some players that for whatever reason u dont like them just because of something u cant quite put your finger on?

Maybe Im just weird but there are several players like that in the NBA.

[hooman1844]

I cant put my finger on it. I like his game but just something about him makes it hard for me to root for him. I didnt like him at Dallas either.

Are there some players that for whatever reason u dont like them just because of something u cant quite put your finger on?

Maybe Im just weird but there are several players like that in the NBA.

Antoine Walker. Oh..but I can put my finger on it.

[Phoenix78]

Thursday, March 30, 2006
TNT 8:00pm EST (5:00pm PST)
Phoenix Suns (47-23) @ Indiana Pacers (35-35)

http://www.nba.com/games/20060330/PHXIND/preview.html


I had said that I thought Phoenix would finish the regular season with a record of around 57-25 (.695) but now I think it will probably be closer to 53-29 (.646)
I think they will still have the #3 record in the West and the #2 playoff spot.
Amare's return didn't go very well, but it's better to stumble in the regular season than in the playoffs.

[Phoenix78]

April games on TV (http://www.nba.com/suns/schedule/)

Sunday, April 2
Phoenix Suns @ Detroit Pistons
12:00pm EDT
ABC

Wednesday, April 5
L.A. Clippers @ Phoenix Suns
9:30pm EDT
ESPN

Friday, April 7
L.A. Lakers @ Phoenix Suns
9:30pm EDT
ESPN

Thursday, April 13
Dallas Mavericks @ Phoenix Suns
9:30pm EDT
TNT

Friday, April 14
Phoenix Suns @ Golden State Warriors
9:30pm EDT
ESPN

Sunday, April 16
Phoenix Suns @ L.A. Lakers
2:30pm EDT
ABC

[Phoenix78]

Friday, April 7, 2006
ESPN 10:30pm EDT (7:30pm Phoenix local time, MST)
Los Angeles Lakers (40-36) at Phoenix Suns (49-25)

http://www.nba.com/games/20060407/LALPHX/preview.html


The Phoenix Suns were 45-20 with a month to go in the regular season and they have since gone 4-5. They need to win 4 of their last 8 games to finish with my projected record of 53-29.

playoff race:

Phoenix will probably finish with the #4 or #5 record in the NBA, depending on Miami.
They will finish #3 in the West, but have the #2 seed in the playoffs.
Also, 7 of the Phoenix's last 10 games in April are against teams that could be in the playoffs.
The top 4 playoff spots in both conferences are pretty much set, but the bottom 4 are still up for grabs.

East
#1 DET central
#2 MIA southeast
#3 NJN atlantic
#4 CLE
#5 WAS, MIL, IND, CHI, PHI
#6 WAS, MIL, IND, CHI, PHI
#7 WAS, MIL, IND, CHI, PHI
#8 WAS, MIL, IND, CHI, PHI, BOS, ORL

West
#1 SAS southwest
#2 PHX pacific
#3 DEN northwest
#4 DAL
#5 LAC, MEM, LAL, SAC
#6 LAC, MEM, LAL, SAC
#7 LAC, MEM, LAL, SAC, NOH, UTA
#8 LAC, MEM, LAL, SAC, NOH, UTA

[Phoenix78]

Game 1: Suns win by 5
Game 2: Suns lose by 6
Game 3: Suns lose by 7
Game 4: Suns lose in overtime by 1
Game 5: Suns win by 17

That was a great game last night, and even if the Suns end up losing the series, I'd love to see a Game 7 in Phoenix.

[LakersFreak]

Sorry Suns fans its all over for you guys. See you next year!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHA

[jimo2305]

what if phoenix78's avatar was actually phoenix78...

[Phoenix78]

what if phoenix78's avatar was actually phoenix78...ha, no chance, dude http://www.2ksports.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

[XxBigKooLAiDxX]

Game 1: Suns win by 5
Game 2: Suns lose by 6
Game 3: Suns lose by 7
Game 4: Suns lose in overtime by 1
Game 5: Suns win by 17

That was a great game last night, and even if the Suns end up losing the series, I'd love to see a Game 7 in Phoenix.

No Chance.

My Prediction:
LAL-102
PHX-94

KOBE STRICTLY Dominates with 25-30pts 8rebs and 7ast

[Phoenix78]

No Chance.

My Prediction:
LAL-102
PHX-94

KOBE STRICTLY Dominates with 25-30pts 8rebs and 7ast

dont quit your day job cause as a fortune teller you aint doin so well

Game 1: Suns win by 5 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060423/LALPHX/recap.html)
Game 2: Suns lose by 6 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060426/LALPHX/recap.html)
Game 3: Suns lose by 7 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060428/PHXLAL/recap.html)
Game 4: Suns lose by 1 in overtime (http://www.nba.com/games/20060430/PHXLAL/recap.html)
Game 5: Suns win by 17 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060502/LALPHX/recap.html)
Game 6: Suns win by 8 in overtime (http://www.nba.com/games/20060504/PHXLAL/recap.html)
Game 7: Saturday, May 6 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060506/LALPHX/preview.html)

[XxBigKooLAiDxX]

ahhaha yea sure n00b. U try and make a prediction biyatch?

[hooman1844]

ahhaha yea sure n00b. U try and make a prediction biyatch?
He's been here two years longer than you...

[XxBigKooLAiDxX]

wateva he aint active. So i got sinority(sp) over him/her.

I dont see no prediction from u PHX.

[Blackwiz]

wateva he aint active. So i got sinority(sp) over him/her.

I dont see no prediction from u PHX.


The real issue is whether or not ur even outta high school. Sinority??? Its one thing to type slang, which I do all the time. But "sinority"?? You have nuttin over anybody spelling like that.

[Phoenix78]

(off-topic)

Woah, XxBigKooLAiDxX, my post was just a joke (get it? I wrote it with bad punctuation so that it would seem more normal to a Laker fan) :p :dance:

As for seniority, I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense to talk about seniority on a video game messageboard that has only been around since late September 2003. Now if you're talking about basketball knowledge in general, then fine. I've been watching NBA games for about 13 years or so and I've been playing basketball for about that same amount of time. If you've been watching longer than me, then I'll grant you seniority.


(on-topic)

Suns are going to win Game 7 :D

[hooman1844]

wateva he aint active. So i got sinority(sp) over him/her.

I dont see no prediction from u PHX.
Where the punch line?

[XxBigKooLAiDxX]

ahha all y'all is funny. And speaking of spelling correctly, I didnt come to these boards to be quized.

Hooman i have no idea wtf ur talking about. This is not a rap battle or diss.

[Phoenix78]

2006 Playoffs
Round 1 Summary
http://www.nba.com/playoffs2006/series_phxlal.html

Game 1: Suns win by 5 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060423/LALPHX/recap.html)
Game 2: Suns lose by 6 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060426/LALPHX/recap.html)
Game 3: Suns lose by 7 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060428/PHXLAL/recap.html)
Game 4: Suns lose by 1 in overtime (http://www.nba.com/games/20060430/PHXLAL/recap.html)
Game 5: Suns win by 17 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060502/LALPHX/recap.html)
Game 6: Suns win by 8 in overtime (http://www.nba.com/games/20060504/PHXLAL/recap.html)
Game 7: Suns win by 31 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060506/LALPHX/recap.html)

[UnderPressure]

For those who said the series was over once the Lakers took a 3-1 advantage, shame on you. "There's no way the Suns will win three in a row." :rotfl:

Do not count the Suns out.

[Penny]

For those who said the series was over once the Lakers took a 3-1 advantage, shame on you. "There's no way the Suns will win three in a row." :rotfl:

Do not count the Suns out.
Talent always prevails under the NBA's playoff system. This was a perfect example.

[Phoenix78]

2006 NBA Playoffs
Round 2 (Western Conference Semi-Finals)
Phoenix Suns vs. Los Angeles Clippers

Game 1: at PHX, Mon., May 8, 10:30 p.m., TNT
Game 2: at PHX, Wed., May 10, 10:30 p.m., TNT
Game 3: at LAC, Fri., May 12, 10:30 p.m., ESPN
Game 4: at LAC, Sun., May 14, 8 p.m., TNT
Game 5: at PHX, Tue., May 16, TBD, TNT
Game 6: at LAC, Thu., May 18, TBD, ESPN
Game 7: at PHX, Mon., May 22, TBD, TNT

[Phoenix78]

2006 Playoffs
Round 2 Summary
http://www.nba.com/playoffs2006/series_phxlac.html

Game 1: Suns win by 7 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060508/LACPHX/recap.html)
Game 2: Suns lose by 25 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060510/LACPHX/recap.html)
Game 3: Suns win by 3 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060512/PHXLAC/recap.html)
Game 4: Suns lose by 7 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060514/PHXLAC/recap.html)
Game 5: Suns win by 7 in 2OT (http://www.nba.com/games/20060516/LACPHX/recap.html)
Game 6: Suns lose by 12 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060518/PHXLAC/recap.html)
Game 7: Suns win by 20 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060522/LACPHX/recap.html)

[Phoenix78]

If someone would've told me that Amare Stoudemire would be out the entire season, and the Suns would still get to Game 6 of the Western Conference Finals, I would've said they were crazy.
I have high hopes for next year :)


2006 Playoffs
Round 3 Summary
http://www.nba.com/playoffs2006/series_phxdal.html

Game 1: Suns win by 3 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060524/PHXDAL/recap.html)
Game 2: Suns lose by 7 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060526/PHXDAL/recap.html)
Game 3: Suns lose by 7 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060528/DALPHX/recap.html)
Game 4: Suns win by 20 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060530/DALPHX/recap.html)
Game 5: Suns lose by 16 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060601/PHXDAL/recap.html)
Game 6: Suns lose by 7 (http://www.nba.com/games/20060603/DALPHX/recap.html)

[Phoenix78]

2007 Playoffs
Round 2 (Conference Semifinals) Summary
Phoenix Suns vs. San Antonio Spurs

http://www.nba.com/playoffs2007/series/series_w2s2.html

Game 1: Suns lose by 5 (http://www.nba.com/games/20070506/SASPHX/gameinfo.html)
Game 2: Suns win by 20 (http://www.nba.com/games/20070508/SASPHX/gameinfo.html)
Game 3: Suns lose by 7 (http://www.nba.com/games/20070512/PHXSAS/gameinfo.html)
Game 4: Suns win by 6 (http://www.nba.com/games/20070514/PHXSAS/gameinfo.html)
Game 5: Suns lose by 3 (http://www.nba.com/games/20070516/SASPHX/gameinfo.html)
Game 6: Suns lose by 8 (http://www.nba.com/games/20070518/PHXSAS/gameinfo.html)