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Canucks4Life
February 13th, 2004, 07:05 PM
I keep hearin people talking about "Sim". Can you please verify what that means please. It owuld be greatly appreciated.

Oilerfan
February 13th, 2004, 07:14 PM
Sim is playing a game without using any moves that could give you a chance to score.

SuppaMan
February 13th, 2004, 09:17 PM
:lol: your just mad cuz i beat u in a sim game...actually theres lots of offense in SIM games if you play on rookie or lower. SIM in a nutshell is no smoves, limited 1-T especially saucer pass 1-T(u kno fllip passes) and a low game speed and high penalties(to combat excessive interference)


hey OF if i see you on and challenge you and you accept or you challenge me i only want to play SIM...so dont accept a challenge of mine if you dont wanna play SIM likewise if for some reason say like you challenged me or whatever and we played, if you started doin tons of smoves an stuff and i go to quit are you gonna be babyish and give me a quit and you a win like ahem superterrorizer

Oilerfan
February 13th, 2004, 10:16 PM
Pretty much every time I play a sim-player i'll play like they do. And no, I don't drop and get wins if that's what you were saying.

Warden
February 13th, 2004, 10:22 PM
For me Sim is not " playing a game without using any moves that could give you a chance to score."

SIM is when you follow common sense in game and trying to copy real NHL game.

You do what real player would do.

For example - will the real team skate down along the board for cross ice pass all 3 periods? No.

Will goalie give pass when he got 2-3 opponent players around? No.

Yes there are swoop in real game. But not all the time.

There are one timers - but not all the time.

And so on.

Common sense - SIM.

I don't allow myself to switch men once the cpu brings it into the attack zone. And, since the up the boards pass is generally unchallenged, I don't allow the winger then to simply skate in and make a crossing pass unless the situation would be natural to do so (beating the dman, taking advantage of the cpu line change, etc.).

isarpsd
February 15th, 2004, 06:35 PM
Great post, Warden. A very, very accurate description of the "sim" style. Here's my conception of "sim":

An attitude or philosophy of sports gameplay that maximizes sportsmanship, realism, and fun for both players, and minimizes exploitation of unrealistic faults inherent in the game.

In other words, "sim" gamers attempt to replicate the sport as accurately as possible. This means that in some instances the gamer will eschew tactics that work in the game because in the real playing of the sport, same tactics would not work as well as or would not be as effective as in the game.

"Sim" gamers usually try to be sportsmanlike. Some "sim" gamers even take this to an extreme -- for example, with respect to this particular game, some players make a habit of pulling their own goalie to allow the other team to "get back" a goal they feel was cheaply or unfairly scored. But again, this is an extreme; most "sim" gamers take sportsmanship to mean not pausing to disrupt their opponent, not disconnecting or quitting, and avoiding anything else that might unfairly give them an advantage or demonstrate a poor attitude.

"Sim" gamers avoid "money" tactics, or things that work at an extremely high percentage, on the basis that they are generally either unrealistic in their execution (ex. with the S-move, have you ever seen an NHL player swerve back and forth in an S pattern on a breakaway or even in a non-breakaway situation? no? because no one does it) or unrealistic in their effectiveness (ex. the one-timer in general...too easy to time, too accurately aimed, too powerful too often, passes always magnetically go to the intended receiver, even if the receiver is being checked he can get the shot off, even if he's not in the path of the pass he will magically drift toward it and get the shot off). "Sim" gamers usually don't like having "money" tactics used against them because often the defense of such "money" tactics is also unrealistic (ex. the best defense of the S-move is to simply stand right in front of your goalie and dive poke...if a player in the NHL did this, he would be laughed out of the league...in reality, defensemen usually stay right with the man as he approaches and tie up his stick, but this can't be done in the game, enhancing the S-move's unrealistic effectiveness).

This is my best description of the "sim" style/philosophy.

gramb0
February 23rd, 2004, 12:13 AM
WOW way to put it. I didnt know and now I do thanx 4 takin the time.