Jamal Lewis

[ambrosio4]

It was once said by a man who couldn't quit,
Dopeman please can I get another hit......


ESPN reports...

"Ravens running back Jamal Lewis was indicted today on federal drug conspiracy charges. Lewis is accused of conspiring to distribute cocaine in the summer of 2000. He had the second-highest rushing total in NFL history last season. "

[rave_nomad]

ATLANTA -- Baltimore Ravens running back Jamal Lewis, who had the second-highest rushing total in NFL history last season, was indicted Wednesday on federal drug charges.


The Atlanta native is accused of conspiring to distribute cocaine in the summer of 2000, U.S. Attorney William S. Duffey announced at a news conference.


Lewis was expected to turn himself in on Thursday, Duffey said. A message left for Lewis' attorney, Ed Garland, wasn't immediately returned.


Lewis is charged with conspiring to possess with the intent to distribute 5 kilograms of a substance containing cocaine and using a cell phone in the commission of the first count, Duffey said.


FBI special agent Hoyt Mahaley said in an affidavit that an informant contacted Lewis about the cocaine and recorded the conversation.


"The cooperating source told Lewis that he/she was willing to sell the narcotics to Lewis' associates for a price that Lewis can tax," meaning the price could be marked up for a profit, Mahaley said in the affidavit.


"And Lewis responded 'Yeah," the affidavit said.


Lewis rushed for 2,066 yards last year, becoming one of five players in NFL history to rush for 2,000 yards. He fell short of Eric Dickerson's record of 2,105 yards in the final game.


A Ravens spokesman, Chad Steele, said the indictment came as a surprise to the team.


"We had no clue," Steele said. He added that they were still gathering information and would issue a statement later.


The NFL declined to comment.

My Question is this .....Why Wait 4 years if you have a case???? It seems a little too soon after he rushes for all these yards .....ohhh yeaaa we should try and gain attention to ourselves and bust him for drugs....Nice try .......But i doubt anything will come from this....I wish cops would go after real criminals ......but they love the attention i guess....Justice will prevail...peace!
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[Slick-Mick]

See Nomad....just when you thought the future was SO bright for the Ravens, suddenly things change.

Granted this indictment doesn't mean that he is going to be locked up, but that's a possibility. In addition to that, he was already on the NFL's list of players that have tested positive before...so this is at least the second strike against him.

[rave_nomad]

What are you talking about ..??? We live in a place where you are innocent untill PROVEN Guilty ....And besides that if you look in my past statements i said they have a top Prospect in a running back "Musa Smith" He was a stud back and a workhorse at UGA and had a few TDs for Baltimore Last season ..i expect big things from him ...and i also stated that the Ravens wanted to get him more involved next year .....Which he will be regaurdless of the Jamal Lewis outcome...so things still look pretty bright to me...:)....Peace!
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[TjM]

You crack me up RN you are the funniest man alive

[BaiLLiE]

Killer Ray and Gimme Some ***e Jamal.
The Convict Lewis Brothers

Coming to a City Near YOU!!

[henchmen]

Watch It BaiLLie...there's a TON of Ravens fans on here

Hey..it happens. You asked for it though...I think you called your own BAD LUCK to your team..smooth move Ex-Lax

Seriously though, that's a tough one. let's See what happens but I think his Balloon just got popped!

What a Shame. Tough Break Ravens Fans

MUSA MUSA MUSA 8)

[rave_nomad]

Wll I was watching ESPN and the charge seems a little drummed up.....
It was something that The Atlanta feds say happen in 2000 Beofre Jamal's Rookie season.....They wait 4 years and untill He wins the Rushing title to bring it up with no proof of money or drugs exchanging hands? It seems a little like a railroad job to me......Who knows maybe the fed's in Atlanta were ****ed off because The Ravens Put Mike Vick out for most of the past season and they had such a crummy year....(Good payback guy's)....I think this is dragging a players name through the mud....lets announce this to the press first !!!! Let everyone form a real fast opinion and convict him before he even goes to trial!!!! It's a load of BS and nothing will come from this....last time i checked as well Ray Lewis was found innocent and won the SuperBowl MVP in 2001......Anybody can be acused of anything by anyone else...it doesnt make them guilty .....Big time Football stars,Baseball Stars,Basketball and hockey stars have a big target on them people like to bring them down....But i think we should all hold our judgment and our tongues untill we get the facts.....and so far the facts are no proof of drugs and no proof of money exchanging hands......I would hate to be an innocent man with some of you all on the Jury...have a nice day peace!!!
RAVENS’ STATEMENT ON JAMAL LEWIS

General manager Ozzie Newsome’s statement on Jamal Lewis

“We are aware of the situation and we’re trying to learn more. These allegations go back to 2000, prior to Jamal’s first training camp and contract. We’ve talked with Jamal, and he’s returning to Atlanta to meet with authorities. We believe in due process, and Jamal will have his day in court. There are two sides to every story. From what we know of the charges, these seem out of character for the Jamal we know.”
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[Reed#20]

Wll I was watching ESPN and the charge seems a little drummed up.....
It was something that The Atlanta feds say happen in 2000 Beofre Jamal's Rookie season.....They wait 4 years and untill He wins the Rushing title to bring it up with no proof of money or drugs exchanging hands? It seems a little like a railroad job to me......Who knows maybe the fed's in Atlanta were [***]
off because The Ravens Put Mike Vick out for most of the past season and they had such a crummy year....(Good payback guy's)....I think this is dragging a players name through the mud....lets announce this to the press first !!!! Let everyone form a real fast opinion and convict him before he even goes to trial!!!! It's a load of BS and nothing will come from this....last time i checked as well Ray Lewis was found innocent and won the SuperBowl MVP in 2001......Anybody can be acused of anything by anyone else...it doesnt make them guilty .....Big time Football stars,Baseball Stars,Basketball and hockey stars have a big target on them people like to bring them down....But i think we should all hold our judgment and our tongues untill we get the facts.....and so far the facts are no proof of drugs and no proof of money exchanging hands......I would hate to be an innocent man with some of you all on the Jury...have a nice day peace!!!
RAVENS’ STATEMENT ON JAMAL LEWIS

General manager Ozzie Newsome’s statement on Jamal Lewis

“We are aware of the situation and we’re trying to learn more. These allegations go back to 2000, prior to Jamal’s first training camp and contract. We’ve talked with Jamal, and he’s returning to Atlanta to meet with authorities. We believe in due process, and Jamal will have his day in court. There are two sides to every story. From what we know of the charges, these seem out of character for the Jamal we know.”
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Say what you will. But when I heard this news yesterday I was at a loss for words. Yes it was 4 years ago. Jamal will have his day in court that's for sure. And at this point I'm not leaning toward either side. I cannot defend him, I gotta leave that up to his defense attorney's. As a Ravens fan when I heard that yesterday I admit it hurt and was highly disappointing. But at the same time I refused to turn my back on him and call him names, the prosecutors and those in America who believe people are guilty and need to be proven innocent will do that. Only thing I can say is we'll see what happens. The good thing is we still have 7 months before the first game to gauge this issue. If he is going to be with us then good, but if something happens for the worse, then we gotta deal with the adversity and just go on unfortunately. If Jamal is innocent the league and team will decide what reprimands will be needed. If he is guilty and I hate to say it this way, but there is no other way to say it, if he is guilty he should do his time.

[Bears34]

Rave you kill your own credibility everytime you type.


They have him on tape talking about 5 keys of ***e and him selling to his friend and making some loot for himself. And taking years to indict someone is not uncommon. Getting him on tape was probably just something that happened during there investigation of a much larger criminal. Large dope cases take years to build and there probably indicting all kinds of people now that were part of this sting.


Musa Smith the next Jamal all the sudden lmao.


No wonder that teams so tough. There all freaking felons that should be in prison. Anyone else named Lewis on the Ravens we should worry about?? I guarantee if there is anyone else named Lewis on that team they will be indicted on some kind of charge with in a year.


Man this Jamal Lewis guy almost broke the single season rushing record. Lets create some fake dope charge to get him back.lmao . Do you really belive this stuff rave?

[ambrosio4]

It was actually a conspiracy formed by the members of this forum. We all got tired of Powerback surveys, Raven up and coming announcements, and cut and paste articles from ravensfanclub.com. We all pulled some strings, made a tape, and sent it to the feds under the agreement that it would go to the press first.

What an embarrassment to the league. Its a really good thing he didn't break the record.

Ray Lewis responded " I didn't see nothin"

[rave_nomad]

You guys are soooooooo funny.....your the type i was talking about.....Evryone thinks he is guilty WTF.........They have no DRUGS NO MONEY....they say they have tape...but you know what...i can say i have dope too ......doesnt make me a criminal!!!!
RAY LEWIS WAS FOUND "NOT GUILTY" get over it ...this stems back 4 years ..jamel lewis is no kingpin...lol....this is a BS charge....The Atlanta feds want to make a name for there selves..and hey arent these guys the same ones who came down against Ray Lewis?? Im sure there are no hard feelings there...and if you think all cops are on the up and up you need to be in a looney bin.....cops can be sports fans too and who is to say they arent p-i-ss-ed off because the Ravens broke Mike Vick?????
anything is possible......i will continue to give updates and "Cut and paste" from the Ravens fansights and if you dont like it ...DONT READ IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its that easy...Peace!
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[Bears34]

Come on Rave are you seriously saying that the ATL PD is setting up Jamal Lewis because Vick got hurt?lol....This case goes way deeper than Jamal Lewis. This case isnt even strickly about him. He was just involved with lots of other people.


Ray Lewis was found not guilty because of technicalities and the stupid prosecutors trying the case. Dont forget he DID hide the weapon that was used to kill 2 people. Only problem was that the police and prosecutors screwed up the case.



Were just screwing with you Rave. Take it easy. And quit jinxing your squad before Ed Reed gets caught at a high school Extasy party.

[henchmen]

Were just screwing with you Rave. Take it easy. And quit jinxing your squad before Ed Reed gets caught at a high school Extasy party.

Yah Rave...Right NOW..he's innocent, but they are not going to go this far without just or probable cause. Four Years..yah, that's a long time but How many MULTI-KILO COCAINE FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS have you done? I'm sure those things take time. If they do have a tape of him agreeing to Distribute or HELP distribute/ or buy it so he's hooking his Comrades up to do it...it's still conspiracy. He doesn't Physically need to have the Kilos on him to get himself in trouble...you should know this. That's what CONSPIRING means...It's a FEDERAL issue...and you may want to start preparing to NOT see him play next year. Just get ready is all I say...then again, You have the INSIDE SCOOP and the Connections so.. :roll:

[ambrosio4]

If the courts say Ray Lewis was innocent then he's innocent!

-O.J.

HERE COMES THE ICE CREAM MAN.....

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[rave_nomad]

Dont get me started on OJ Simpson...I think he is innocent....as far as Ray Lewis is concerned thats all in the past and he was found not guilty.....
and i didnt say for sure Atlanta was trying to screw over Jamal Lewis i siad it was possible......If this were a boston fed department and they were trying to bust a yankee you wouldnt think it was so crazy.....And as far as the Ravens going next year without Jamal ....I think it's a good theing they have 2 quality backs anyway...and Musa Smith was going to get alot more work next year anyway....but i still think Jamal will be able to play next year.....
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NO WORRIES HERE MY FRIENDS!!!!!!! :lol:

[AbeFroeman2]

You think OJ is innocent? Is your name Al Sharpton? Even Ice Cube admits he did (see Barbershop). OJ getting off on those charges was the WORST travesty ever in the history of America's judicial system.

[rave_nomad]

Yea i think he was found innocent and i dont beleive he did it...
I think at the time you have a 50 something year old man with 2 bad knees and yet he can kill a much younger and stronger and bigger man with no problems??????? And i might be the minority but i dont care ....here is something that makes me even more of a minority ...(im white) ......Gasps..........I think someone with his money and fame could have easily gotten someone to kill them for him......peace!!! Im out
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[Slick-Mick]

Man...Musa Smith can't hold Jamal's jock, so you need to quit all the talk about him stepping in and without any drop-off!!!

Jamal is innocent until proven guilty, but he has already been caught TWICE by the league for alcohol and substance abuse. Not exactly a good track record....especially considering that he was last caught in 2001...right around the time all this police informant had discussions with Lewis about buying some blow.

[ambrosio4]

Let's also keep in mind, that he got caught with THIS DRUG DEAL. Its not like they picked him out of the blue... There is no telling how much he may or may not have trafficked prior to this :roll:

But to each his own, if he wants to help a friend by pushing cocaine, that's his own decision. Geez though, you think he could break him off something without it being illegal...

[rave_nomad]

Im going to save all these reply's and i am going to make each one of you eat crow.....mark my words jamal will play next year for the Ravens and he is innocent....I didnt say there wouldnt be a drop off...but unless you are familair with Musa Smith's backround you have no clue what he can do ...I followed his progress at UGA and he had a heck of a preseason as well as a few good TD runs for baltimore ....so chill out everyone and i promise this will not have any bearing on the Ravens upcoming season...
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[ambrosio4]

Rave_Nomad, please make no mistake about it. I honestly hope that he is innocent. I hope all this is bs, because I am sick of jackholes dragging down the good name of the entire NFL. We don't need a league full of killers, drug dealers, rapist, people who take dumps in closets, etc.

[henchmen]

people who take dumps in closets, etc.

Well, there goes Musa Smith

This reminds me of the Waterboy: "Stop Making Fun Of Me"

This is too easy. Nomad, you have to admit...The Sapp comment...has Almost Fizzled Out...Now T.O. didn't hand in his homework in on time? This is the Guy you want? Now Jamal Lewis gets busted by the FEDS?

I think maybe you should put your Black and Purple POM POMs down until your season starts. Even your fellow Ravens fans are asking you to Pipe Down...you're cursing your Birds bro

[rave_nomad]

I stand by everything i have said....people were saying the same things in 2000 when Ray Lewis was charged in the Atlanta case...."Ray lewis is a killer" etc....and what happend?? My Team won the SuperBowl....this is just more of the same....I have alot of the facts on the case...the informant was a jail bird and this just comes out now so she can try and save her own neck.......she told the feds ..."The Jamal Lewis" tried to do etc.....in exchange for getting no jail time...so this hasnt been in the works for a long time its a newer development...and like i said the Ravens have the Best chance at landing TO....all the 49ers want is a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him......and Sapp may not be wanted in Florida anymore...but thats just my take....im not cursing my team...i like to speak my mind and i will continue to do so..peace!
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[Slick-Mick]

but unless you are familair with Musa Smith's backround you have no clue what he can do ...I followed his progress at UGA and he had a heck of a preseason as well as a few good TD runs for baltimore

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So which is it? Is Jamal the man or have you now hooked up the wagon to Musa? I've been following your posts about Musa and you keep saying that he looked good and I quoted you above about how he had "A FEW GOOD TD RUNS"....

Well, here are your boy Musa's stats from last year: http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396086

Sorry, but 9 carries for 31 yards is not someone that I would hang my teams' future on. Shall I continue?? Ok...those whopping 9 carries came in 2...yeah, that's right....2 games!!! And he got those carries because those games were blow-outs against San Fran and Cleveland. What's worse is that he even had a fumble in those 9 carries!!!

I know that you are going to say that I don't know what I'm talking about and that you have inside sources that feed you your info, but this is ACTUAL FACTS and not speculation or fabrication.

I doubt I'll need to make another post on this topic......

[rave_nomad]

those were his season stats first of all ...and second of all he had a couple TD runs in those blowout games..and couch Billick said he would have more carriers this upcoming year to give Jamal a little break....I still think Jamal will play this year.....here is Musa Smith's stats his last year at UGA.
Att.260
Yds.1324
avg.5.1
td.14
rec.22
yds.244
td.3
Personal stats 6'1" 232 lbs 40 yard dash time is 4.45
those are the reasons the Ravens Drafted him..
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[Slick-Mick]

Who cares what he did in college!!! But since stats are what seems to matter most with you, here is another player's stats his last year in college. He was taken early in the draft the year he came out, so that must have meant he is/was going to be a STUD in the NFL...

Peep these stats!!! http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/stats/1997/players/passing/32670.html


And we all know what a great NFL player he was.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

[rave_nomad]

well you never know......
Stats dont always matter but as far a RB's are concerned he is a top prospect... I in my opinion think he has a very good chance of becoming a really good RB in the NFL .........the size and speed and toughness are all there and alot of people beleive in his abilitys i will just leave it at that....but if next year you hear alot of Musa Smith's name on Sportscenter...remember good ol Rave_nomad......peace!
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[Martin Dihigo]

they set him up.
this was before he had a good contract , they called him and gave him an offer he couldn't refuse and he said yes.

NTA

... NTA :?:


never trust anybody.

[ambrosio4]

Ryan Leaf had great stats in college

[rave_nomad]

Ramember the name ...."Musa Smith"....Might be next year or 2 years from now.....
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[ambrosio4]

I'll look him up in the Arena league in a couple years just for you :lol:

[somatik]

While it does seem odd that the police would wait 4 years to act on their evidence, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the investigation has already led to something like 30 arrests. So, since arresting an NFL player will lead to lots of headlines, even if he isn't the offensive player of the year, it makes sense to leave his arrest til last, so as not to tip off everyone else under investigation.

I'm not saying he's guilty, just that I highly doubt the FBI just made this up. Personally, I find it strange that you can be arrested for thinking about buying drugs, I hope that's not the case in my country.

[rave_nomad]

Jamal and his Lawyers are puching for a quick trail as to get all this behind them...so he can get ready for training camp...and while this investagation has led to 30 arrests...the informate was a convict trying to save her own skin ..they were going to throw her in jail and she made a deal saying she could get Jamal Lewis Busted and they cut her a deal .....Because everyone knows a big sports star bust makes the cops doing the busting famous...and it brings there department even more money and fame....12 jurrors are going to need 100% positive proof of this charge ..it isnt going to happen ..no drugs changed hands and no money ...if there going on heresay its BS.....nothing will come from this...
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[henchmen]

You need to quit lying to yourself by saying NOTHING will come of this. This is a FEDERAL DRUG INVESTIGATION not some parking ticket he got in Mississippi. And this is not the movies, nor is it acted television. This is real life jack. You better realize the flip side of the coin which is your boy COULD be found guilty and could spend 10 years in prison. Not to mention that this is already a distraction to the team.

You love your team so bad you're already sweeping this situation under the carpet like it never happened. Well David Copperfield, your mouth is Not quicker than the brain. It's a FRESH story and it's only gonna get uglier from here. She was this, and they want to do that, and it's a conspiracy...STOP! You've read one too many Nancy Drew Novels...this is a very serious accusation. They have TAPE? Who care what the crazy b-tch in Jail says...they have TAPE? Oooooo....sorry buddy, but evidence like that scars worse than someone's "word". So even if she struck a deal to expose Jamal...you think it's to hype a Police Department? You think they busted Jamal just to become Famous Cops? Listen to yourself :roll:

You STILL don't understand the word Conspiracy do you? HE DOESN'T NEED TO PHYSICALLY TOUCH THE DRUGS OR THE MONEY...IF HE'S IN WITH THE GROUP DOING THE TOUCHING AND BUYING...HE'S GUILTY! It's just one of those dumb moves that comes back to bite you in the a55. You sound more WORRIED than not. I'm telling you...it comes out in your writing. Who are you trying to convice NOTHING will happen...me? or you? Cause I could care less...

He's not the Best Back and even if he does go up the River...there will always be good Backs in the NFL long after he's done smashing the numbers into his 15,000th Liscence Plate....If 12 people find that he conspired to buy ***e with the intent to Distribute?......All I have to say is....watch out for the Soap Jamal!

Wake Up Gonad! :twisted:

[henchmen]

Hey Gonad....Why don't you do us a favor and switch GAMES for a while
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[rave_nomad]

STENCHMEN Im not going anywhere!!!! HERE IS A LITTLE READING FOR YOU ...Take it for what it is....
Around the league


One final thought (OK, for now, at least) on the Jamal Lewis situation: Ed Garland, a member of the phalanx of high-profile Atlanta defense attorneys retained by the Ravens' tailback, revealed Wednesday that his client has known of the federal investigation of him for about a year. If that is indeed the case -- and, by vocation alone, Garland is given to some flights of hyperbole -- then a grudging tip of the hat to the Baltimore star for his apparent skills of focus. Watch Kobe Bryant sometime, even during his recent scoring spree, and try to convince someone his game isn't suffering from a natural preoccupation with his off-court difficulties. With federal authorities apparently closing on him quicker than some of the linebackers against whom he played in 2003, Lewis set the single-game rushing record, and came within one more long run of topping Eric Dickerson's single-season mark. Now that, friends, is focus. Either he considered the investigation frivolous or Lewis, as some of his teammates suggested to us, is a very disciplined guy.
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STenchmen .......check it out if you want!!!!
HEY STENCHMEN HERE IS SOME TERREL OWENS INFO ...Didnt you say Baltimore was never going to get him??? LMAO...
On the Owens front, the financial fallout from his agents monumental muck-up might not be as catastrophic for him as originally assumed. His current contract, which remains property of San Francisco for now, calls for "T.O." to earn $17.7 million in base salaries over the next three seasons. But the 49ers aren't going to pay that, because they don't want Owens, and will trade him. Any team dealing for Owens -- uh, can you say Baltimore folks? -- won't want to assume those base salaries and the annual salary cap charges of $7 million-plus that accompany them and will probably demand a new contract. And if he signs a new deal, Owens is going to want upfront money in the $15 million range. Even if the base salaries in the first couple years of a new contract are at the league minimum, Owens will still probably earn more in three years with a new team than he would have made staying in San Francisco through the 2006 season. The big edge, though, still goes to the 49ers. They now wield the leverage hammer they didn't have until Thursday, when news of the contractual faux pas went public. Instead of getting nothing in return, when Owens walked out the door in free agency, San Francisco now figures to get a package of draft choices in return.
HMMM Stenchemen ...is this crap too??? Maybe im making it up ...or maybe im using my Magic 8 ball......What do you think smart guy????

MORE ON LEWIS READ UP AND TAKE NOTES STENCHMEN!!!
Friday, February 27, 2004


Associated Press
ATLANTA -- The government could have a tough time proving its drug conspiracy case against Baltimore Ravens running back Jamal Lewis because of the length of time it took to file charges, legal experts say.


The charges filed Wednesday were within the five-year statute of limitations. But a jury may ask why it took so long when authorities claim to have two taped conversations from June 2000 in which Lewis tried to broker a cocaine deal, say two former federal prosecutors and a law school professor.


"A jury will consider the passage in time in evaluating the government's evidence," said John Rowley, former chief of the narcotics section for the U.S. Attorney's office in Alexandria, Va. "The jury may well refuse to convict on merely one or two conversations without corroborating evidence of some kind."


Jim Cohen, director of the clinical law program at Fordham law school in New York, agreed.


"I think time is not the government's friend in this case," Cohen said. "Absent intervening stuff, the jury is going to be very suspicious."

the credibility of the informant is likely to be called into question by the defense.

PUT THAT IN YOUR PHIFE AND SMOKE IT >>>>>CHUUUUUUUMP!!!!! HAHA....

Jamal Lewis is one Raven that will fly Next year ....League leader once again!!!! WHOOOOOOOO DOGGIE!!! GAME TIME!!!

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[Martin Dihigo]

Gonad , STENCHMEN

:roll:

u 2 lovebirds

[henchmen]

Boy you definitely got me confused with some of the other people slamming you to the ground. Let me clear the Whirley Birds for you...

I never said the Ravens would NEVER GET T.O. I said where did you read he was on the Ravens. I also said, maybe you should wait for your deals to fall through before you place any bets in Vegas. I never said you had an 8 Ball for an insider but that was funny...and also, someone else.

I will say that you are easily the fruitiest Raven Fan I've ever met and you definitely have your Airline Tickets booked for San Fran with Jamal. Take it easy Gonad...don't cry...Jamal will be OK.... :cry: Waiting 4 years doesn't take away from the fact the boy tried to buy and distribute Cocaine with his buddies...4 years ago makes it OK? This is what you are so blind to. Jamal is Innocent Jamal is Innocent....UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!

I also said that YOU CAN HAVE OWENS...he's not all that so he'll fit perfectly on your team. And while you're busy making your 2004 Predictions and reading every article known to man about Jamal Lewis' case.....Please take time to realize that almost every piece of garbage flying out of your mouth is SPECULATION. People will take you for a joke until it's etched in stone. Remember that...

BTW...they're just the Ravens..I could really care less about your 6 paragraph articles from the Baltimore Sun. Enough already...I'm a Patriots fan..I don't give a **** about your sorry a55 Ravens...do you get it yet? Einstein? I just think it's funny that a character like you has the guts to come out and parade around like you done something special. What have you done? Back to 2000? :roll:

Play the NEW game I sent you

[henchmen]

Keep another thing in mind. If Jamal and his Buddies GANG **** a woman and Jamal does nothing but "keep a lookout" while his goons are committing the crime...should he be punished too? If he was caught on the phone telling his boys WHERE the girl hangs out or anything close to having to conspire to the gang ****...should he be found guilty?

If one of the rapists isn't known about till 4 years later, should we just ignore him or say that convicting him for taking part in the gang **** is going to be nearly impossible because after all...the case is WEAK because it happened 4 years ago?

I know this is apples and oranges but a crime is a crime is a crime. So Jamal is a nicer guys and hangs around new people these days...Does this mean he's different so let's ignore his past?

Truth is..we don't know squat about what will happen...the story's not even 4 days old and your already calling Jamal's next run in the huddle...relax F.Lee Bailey...your boy's in TIME OUT and could be there for a while. :roll:

[rave_nomad]

When everything i said and wrote comes true ..i guess that makes me look better in some people's eyes.....But the fact remains that i have very,very valid points...4 years is almost at the statue of limitations....if they had waited 1 more year they couldnt even have tried the case!!!

And another thing..what would you do to become famous??? Think about it...if you were a fed or a DA ..and you had this in your lap ..would you take advantage of it?? They dont have a case and everything i have read so far points to that fact....4 years it took to get this going...the fact the Jamal knew this was coming and still won the Rushing title..the crooked informant.....and all it will take is (1) out of all the Jurrors to be undecided and he walks......and i think for most people....it takes more then a "Yea' from a tape that could have been of anyone..to be found guilty ...lets not forget he is from the area and does alot for that community as well......The Bottom line is i love proving people wrong...And i am about to prove all of you chumps and Stenchmen wrong ....all these posts are in my archive's ...so when Jamal gets found "Not Guilty" and Terrel Owens Goes to Baltimore and Warren Sapp Goes to Baltimore i am going to have a field day ragging on all you nay sayer's!!!! There will be no hiding Stenchmen....I will write 1000,0000 posts if i have too...the main thing is when all is said and done i was right.......
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[pjconRAD]

Why cant you just be a Lions fan Nomad, youre making the rest of us Ravens fans look bad. I also believe you need to bite your tongue and stop placing your 'guarantee' on everything you have no control over. :evil:

[henchmen]

Why cant you just be a Lions fan Nomad, youre making the rest of us Ravens fans look bad. I also believe you need to bite your tongue and stop placing your 'guarantee' on everything you have no control over. :evil:

Well said....and just to put your mind at ease...Raging_Gonad does NOT represent all Ravens fans so I will not hold Ravens fans accountable for this fool's stupidity. He still doesn't get it... :roll: :lol:

I care about Tom Brady and the New England Patriots

[rave_nomad]

If i dont get it Stenchmen2k4...then how come your the one who keep's replying to me in my own posts???? Seems to me im so compelling you cant help yourself.....If these other "so called " Ravens fans would step up then i wouldnt have to be so forward......Let me ask everyone this???
What if everything i have said comes true??? Baltimore gets Terrell Owens,+Warren Sapp and Jamal gets found Not guilty ?? WHat then??
Am i still crazy ol' Raven Nomad???? Sure i am...I like to stir things up ...but im also compelling...I looked on these message boards all the time before i actually signed up...nobody had anything interesting to say....some posts had no replys at all.....now that im here ...look at all the replys i get ...wheather you agree with my views or not....the replys dont lie.......I get people p-i-s-s-e-d off or they agree with me ...if they dont agree with me they can as James Hettfield says "ahhh Suck it ha ha"
Bottom line is this ....i get a ton of Ravens fans private messaging me and asjing me if the Ravens are really going to get these players....So there are some true balls to the walls Ravens and football fans out there like me.....I love to take things to far .....I like to start up he said she said BS.....all in fun.......as i leave you all let me say...Stenchmen suck a big one and the rest of you that dont like me .........please refer to the James Hettfield quote above ..thank you and Ravens Rule,Ravens Rule one more time Ravens Rule...did i mention......RAVENS RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Im sure Stenchmen wont respond to this as he has no business replying to me....

[henchmen]

OOOO OUCH....You got me Gonad...you slayed the Dragon :roll:

You sure are a tough guy Gonad....not to mention probably the smartest man in the world when it comes to NFL FOOTBALL.

HAIL THE GONAD!!! HAIL TO HIS SWOLLENESS!!:twisted:

Well your head just won the UGLIEST FLOAT IN THE MACY'S DAY PARADE...congratulations!:roll:

I think I'll take my ball and go home now. :P I can't compete with you Gonad. I went 15 Rounds with Powerhitter but YOU :shock: Pshhhh...YOU are a Much Much Bigger Fish :roll: :lol: I think we should PRAISE you for your Ground-Breaking insight to the NFL, and your "contacts" deserve credit too...you guys are remarkable! Keep Up the Good Work...Tell TO and Sapp I said hello

Hey..you don't have any insider information on the Patriots do you? I'm sorry...that was wrong..No No..I was out of line to think a BIGSHOT expert like you would disclose your GREAT knowledge for nothing...How much? Can I pay you Online? Is it still FLAMING_GONAD.com? :twisted:

If i dont get it Stenchmen2k4...then how come your the one who keep's replying to me in my own posts???? Seems to me im so compelling you cant help yourself........Stenchmen suck a big one and the rest of you that dont like me

Why do I keep replying?Cause you STILL DON'T GET IT that's why and ambrosio4 started this thread.

Compelling? Yah....GRIPPING! COLOSSAL! I can barely contain myself :roll:

Suck a Big One? Well in my HOUSE, a Big One is a Frosty Corona with a Lime so...Thank You. Maybe if I suck a few Big Ones I'll forget I ever gave my 20 cents on the Ravens or your Stupid Nostradamus wanna bein' a55.

As far as the other people who don't like you? You made your Bed..you sleep in it!

FLUSH!!!!! Swirl swirl swirl gurggle gurggle gurggle. Thanks for playin!

BTW...I'm not asking for the LAST WORD...I just took it. Here's to looking Down at you :wink:

CHECKMATE! GAME OVER

[rave_nomad]

LMAO ...Stenchmen you are a funny SOB....You proved my point that i am compelling, as for your beer ...dude thats Mexican pi-ss....And i only thought people in The keys drank that stuff..(If you know what i mean)
Im glad you see things my way though......i mean you must ...after all you keep replying to my messages....I must be the most compelling person in this forum ...I keep drawing your lame A55 in ......as for Patriots Information.....not much to tell...they are not making many moves at all this off season...I heard they may try to sign a good O-lineman..to bolster there O-line....they also are in much need of some kind of runningback.....as teams will catch on if its all tom barady next year....as far as you winning?? How do you figure...??? I knew you would reply ...you always do...so i think ..now it's checkmate!!!! ahh Suck it ha,ha........and even if you dont reply to this(fat chance) i know you will at least look at this post....as for i made my bed.....well in fact i have...but i dont get any ill will....i get more positive feedback then anything...you might want to go check my poll of who is the best Running back ....the winner is ...yup you guessed it Jamal Lewis....so enjoy your Skunk Beer (By the way dont you live near the Keys?) ...thought so.....
And keep on thinking or careing about The New England Patriots and replying about the Ravens??? Somethings not right there....Like i said all along Stenchmen if you dont like my posts .....(STOP REPLYING)...I cant stress that enough.........Everyone else out there.....if you dont like it ....go down to the Keys with Stenchmen and drink the queer beer like Stench-man and be a Patriots *** A55 fan!!!! Peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Rebels10]

First of all, i think the all Ravens players should just stay away from the city of Atlanta. I dont know if jamal is guilty or not--could care less.

You are right that Ray was found "not-guilty" but man, he should count his lucky stars that his defense lawyer was really good and the Atlanta PD f'd up the investagation. I do remember that him and his lawyer "plea-bargained" with the DA. I dont know what really happened there so i cant make a judgement, but if two of my friends stabbed someone in a club i was at when it happened...then they find the victims blood in my limo...you would have to raise some eyebrows; however, i was not there so who knows. Also, who knows what happen with jamal as well...we will have to believe in the court system to figure that out.

But you are basing Musa Smiths greatness on his college stats? Who is the all-time leading rusher in the NFL...Ron Dayne...how is his pro career going. All-time passing leader...Ty Detmer...he probably holds all kind of pro records by now--OH YEAH, he has never really landed as a number 1 guy! Someone already mentioned Leaf...so no need to go there.

I dont see how you can say there will be no big drop off if Jamal does not play...Come on man. That is like saying the Colts would be just as good with out Peyton. If Tomlinson was Lewis' backup then you would have a case, but a guy who has carried 9 times for 31 yards with a fumble does leave a big question mark. Hey, could turn out to be a good back, but how can YOU make that call. Have you seen him run drills? have you seen him at practice? You cant make a judgement on a guy with 9 carries and preseason carries--LEAF LOOKED GREAT IN THE PRESEASON AS A ROOKIE! Of course Billick is going to say that he has the coinfidence in Musa. He has to keep his team fired up. That is what Modell pays him for--TO MOTIVATE! Not like he is going to say, "Well, we lost Jamal our season is over." He has to make his players believe.

Remember when Green went down with the Rams..."We will rally around Kurt Warner..."(**** Vermiel).

The one thing the Ravens do have going for them though...is two years ago they went to the playoffs with a washed up Terry Allen. I would have to say that Musa is an upgrade from Allen. I dont think losing Lewis would cost them the central, bc the Steelers, Bengals, or Browns still are not good enough to over take them.

[rave_nomad]

I have in fact seen Musa Smith in Practice...Like i said im a fan.....He has run with 1st team offence ...and i was impressed....The ravens as a team are confident that Jamal in innocent they are not going to sign another RB
or draft one.....they will go ahead with there free agent plans...
Tuesday, March 2, 2004


Associated Press
OWINGS MILLS, Md. -- Ravens coach Brian Billick defended Jamal Lewis on Tuesday and predicted the star running back will be acquitted of drug conspiracy charges.


Lewis, the NFL offensive player of the year who gained the second-most rushing yards in league history last season with 2,066 yards, has pleaded innocent to helping arrange a cocaine deal in 2000 for a childhood friend in Atlanta.





"We're very proud of the human being that Jamal Lewis is today," Billick said. "I have no doubt that he will fight his way out of this difficulty."


General Manager Ozzie Newsome said Lewis' legal trouble will not affect the team's approach to free agency, which begins Wednesday, or the draft April 24-25.


"We stand by Jamal," Newsome said. "Nobody knows Jamal as well as we do, but, right now, that hasn't altered our offseason plans at all."

That shows alot of trust in a player.....I didnt say there wouldnt be any dropoff....i just said Musa Smith can be a great back......

[Rebels10]

Of course it sounds like trust. They are not going to come out and say they think the guy is guilty...even if they did believe he did it.

I kind of think the players assocation would be at the Ravens door with legal action of their own. The NFLPA has a lot of power in the NFL. Plus, if they said, "We think Jamal is quilty." If Jamal was found innocent they would have to deal with a guy who would be extremely unhappy with his team.

Like i said, there would be a drop off at the position bc jamal is one heck of a back, but the Ravens did go to the playoffs three years ago with a over-the-hill Terry Allen.

[rave_nomad]

this is true...but i think the amount of trust is something special...there not going to sign a Running back for insurance..i think that is cool...just my opinion though....I dont think many teams would be as calm as the Ravens are about this though...peace!!

[Rebels10]

I would have to agree with you on that. Last year the Buccaneers were faced with the same problem with Pittman and they went out and signed Thomas Jones.

One thing i will give billick, he is cocky enough to think he can win with anyone on the field...and for the most part he has been right. I still cant believe they made the playoffs two years ago with Terry Allen and Elvis Grabac. Also, he came into the season with a rookie and expected to win...