Owens between a rock and a hard place.....

[ravens_beat_you]

Terrell Owens will indeed have to make apologies to the Baltimore Fans as well as his new teamates!!!

acording to this the Ravens will wave the right for a physical and will NOT recind the deal.....the NFLPA will not be able to get this trade recinded as well.. No such thing has ever happend in the history of the NFL ..it was T.O's agents fault......He will be a Raven next year and if he isnt careful he could be wasting the prime of his career.....he can rot in a holdout for 3 years ...or he can sign a new contract comprable to the top WR's in the league...because the bottom line is the Ravens wont Trade for less then a high 1st rounder and a player (top WR) most likely....which means T.O. is stuck.......i think he needs to realize how good he will have it in Baltimore ..after all he will be the focus point in the passing game..they have a great Running game...tops in the league last year..compared to Philly ..who uses a commitee RB system...and Baltimore also has more weapons on O..todd Heap, Travis Taylor ..the biggest O-line in the league..the youngest team in the league, Baltimore is a team on the rise while Philly seems to be declining...we saw this early on with Philly last year ...losing early games.....and they will most likely lose there top 2 corners to free agency this year ...whil Baltimore has Solid DB's Ed Reed, CHris Mcalister, Gary Baxter etc......he would be smart to come out and make things right with us fans and his team....this is what the Ravens sight had to say.

ESPN.com news services
OWINGS MILLS, Md. -- Confident their trade for Terrell Owens will stand up, the Baltimore Ravens waited patiently Monday for word from the NFL about the Players Association's bid on behalf of Owens to have the deal rescinded.


The Ravens obtained the four-time Pro Bowl receiver Thursday from the San Francisco 49ers for a 2004 second-round draft pick. Owens said he would not report to Baltimore, insisting that he intends to play for the Philadelphia Eagles.


But it seems Owens is himself beginning to acknowedge the likelihood that he'll be wearing purple when the season begins. Though he held true to his word and failed to report for his scheduled physical at the Ravens' team complex on Monday, the Ravens did not rescind the trade.


The Ravens, who have the option of waiving the physical, opted to postpone the examination pending formal confirmation of the trade.


"If it was a case where I would have to be there [with the Ravens], then I'll be there," Owens told WCAU-TV, the NBC affiliate in Philadelphia, over the weekend. "At the same time, I want to fight for my right to exercise the option in my contract."


Owens was denied free-agent status last month after he missed a deadline to void the final three seasons of his contract. His agent, David Joseph, filed a grievance with the NFL Management Council through the NFL Players Association.


Gene Upshaw, executive director of the Players Association, has asked the league to overturn the trade and have Owens' contract voided so he can be declared a free agent.


Upshaw said if the matter can't be resolved, the union will ask Stephen Burbank, who is in charge of settling disputes regarding the NFL's collective bargaining agreement, to have Owens' contract voided so he can be declared a free agent.


NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Monday that the league had been informed that Upshaw had decided to send the case to Burbank.


"This is a matter between the league and the union right now," Ravens spokesman Chad Steele said Monday. "We can't do anything until we hear back on the ruling."


A league source told The Baltimore Sun for Monday's editions that the union has little chance of succeeding in its efforts, since it will concede that Owens' agent made a mistake by missing the paperwork deadline to make Owens a free agent. The Ravens expect the matter to be cleared up by the end of the week and are certain that Owens will play for them this season. Judging by his comments over the weekend, Owens conceded that his next catch could be in Baltimore.


"I'm going to fight it to the end until I can't fight it anymore," Owens told WCAU-TV, the NBC affiliate in Philadelphia on Sunday night. "This is not to disrespect the Ravens organization by any means. I just want a fair shot at my free agency.


"If it comes down to the point where I can't win, I'll be a Raven."


The Eagles reportedly agreed to a contract with Owens that included a signing bonus worth about $10 million. But the 49ers were not interested in Philadelphia's offer for Owens: a fifth-round pick and wide receiver James Thrash.


The Eagles must also await the league's decision, but seem resigned to the idea that Owens will not be heading to Philadelphia any time soon.


"At this point, the league has approved the trade and Terrell is property of another team," Eagles president Joe Banner told the Philadelphia Inquirer on Sunday night. "Anything I might say is liable to get me in trouble at this point."


Owens caught 80 passes for 1,102 yards and nine touchdowns last season, his lowest totals since 1999. He is due to make $17.7 million in base salary over the next three seasons, including $5.3 million next year.


But the Ravens have said they are willing to rework the deal to bring his salary in line with some of the top receivers in the league.


Owens isn't all about talent, though. His departure from San Francisco came after repeated clashes with management and teammates, and his on-field touchdown antics include signing a football with a marker he carried in his sock, and an impromptu cheer with pom-pons he borrowed from a cheerleader

[StopMe]

eagles sux anyway..theyll lose their 2 good cb's and then theyll lose in playoffs cuz they have no pass defense next yr(lol). that punk t.o. needs to shutup and play for those ravens..who will also NOT win a SB. my bucs o-line is looking top notch this yr...we going to superbowl!!!

[ravens_beat_you]

oooook....lol...good luck with that......You want a good O-line look up Baltimore...Top Rushing O in the league and the Biggest Line in the NFL...

[alldayy]

at least the ravens are smart enough not to get rid of TO for a 2nd rounder

[henchmen]

eagles sux anyway..theyll lose their 2 good cb's and then theyll lose in playoffs cuz they have no pass defense next yr(lol). that punk t.o. needs to shutup and play for those ravens..who will also NOT win a SB. my bucs o-line is looking top notch this yr...we going to superbowl!!!

I couldn't help but notice you took down your BS post about the BUCS being the next Dynasty and then you called Pats fans PUNKS?

Glad your conscience told you the truth. You don't have what it takes right now Bucs Fan....SuperBowl ShmuperBowl...take a back seat to about 10 teams that are closer to a SB than your Bucs. :twisted:

[Bears34]

I dont understand why Ravens fans think this is good. TO is already a head case as it is, and now your going to force him to play for a team he didnt even want to go to? Call me crazy , but I predict a troublesome year in Bmore for TO.



Also the Ravens didnt have the biggest O-line last year. The Bears actually did for a while towards the end and the Vikings did the rest of the year.

[ravens_beat_you]

Man look it up,
The Ravens sport 2 of the NFL's biggest O-linemen....Orlando Brown 6'8" 370 lbs and lets not forget John Ogden 6'7" 359 lbs....they have the biggest O-line in the NFL right now...

[Bears34]

Yes they do right NOW. My post said last year.


Your adding Brown this year . And if Im not mistaken he didnt play last year. So if you put Brown (360lbs according to Ravens website) in place of Brooks (310) who played last year , Yes they would have the largest.

[ravens_beat_you]

Brown Played last year ..starting in all but 3 games and got 2 personal fouls that cost the Ravens the Playoff game vs. the Titans.

[Bears34]

My fault. Check out the Ravens web site. They must have some bogus info on there then.

When I was watching the Bears vs. Vikings second game this year they were showing stats of the biggest lines at the time. Bears were 1, Vikes 2, and Ravens 3 rd. Not by much though.

[FridayFrenzy]

at least the ravens are smart enough not to get rid of TO for a 2nd rounder

You would rather have a 5th rounder and James Thrash. Bwaahahahaha!!!! Its the best offer they got for T.O., nobody wants the cancer.

[Penny]

he will b an egale i hope so anyway
they have a good team their for sure
n i think they will give up alot cause they will make the sb this year fro sure hopefully

[ravens_beat_you]

How do you figure the Eagles will get T.O.??
Whats your logic?
He is a Raven reguardless of wheather he wants to be or not...
His agent messed up and the NFLPA cant do anything about it.... He missed the deadline...The Ravens wont trade him...nor will they recind the deal.....No Player in the History in the NFL has won this kind of dispute...he needs to get over his self and apoligize and try to get some fan support back in Baltimore...because he is stuck....like it or lump it!

[Revengel]

TO is under contract to Baltimore for the time being. That said, I don't think anything short of a MAJOR offer is going to move him in a trade. I would not be surprised if TO decided to hold out for the entire year...just to be that way.

The Redskins had Sean Gilbert holding out for a year because...God told him to? His quote, not mine.

Point is when you have an unhappy player, they tend not to produce & bring morale down. Be careful...NOT having TO may make for a better team.

[ravens_beat_you]

Terrell Owens is very vain....He doesnt want this to be put down in the record books...players have a love for money ...he would get fined $5000
a day for the season and that adds up .....and he doesnt want to waste his "Prime" years not doing anything....if he didnt play Football this year he would be out of game shape and nobody would want to take a shot on him...he would be washed up....The League will not renig on the deal....It was T.O's agents fault for not filing papers on time...the league doesnt have any business in it at this point...the Ravens will make this work...T.O wants a crack at the Hall of Fame someday...he wouldnt blow his chance at putting up big numbers this year because of something so stupid.....

[henchmen]

I love when people talk for T.O like they know him. Hall of Fame? out of Shape?

Where do they continue to come up with this stuff? :roll:

For crying out loud...this topic is BEYOND STALE already..move along people.

An average Receiver was traded to an average team...move along

BOOOOORING BOOOOOORING BOOOOORING BOOOOOOOOORING!!!

Yawn...snore...how friggin boring can these forums get on this topic?

TO TO TO TO TO TO RAVENS TO TO TO TO TO TO TO TO RAVENS.....

enough already...geez. this is only controversial because the player is. Who really gives a flying (ryhmes with truck) about the Ravens or TO besides Ravens Fans?

All the rebuttles are NOT because we really give a TRUCK as much as we just can't stand the Cockiness of the Ravens Fans.

SUPERBOWL? :roll: Get real. And don't be afraid of TO leaving...anything could happen and he's got a lot to prove for Hall of Fame status...you'd think we were talking about Jerry Rice for crying out loud.

[Penny]

if u r so bored just dont post simple
n for the fact that u say he is average

I HATE WHEN PPL who know when a palyer is good label him as average
listen to n marvin only 2 wr in nfl in the last 4 season to have more than 5000 yards.
simple he aint a abda wr dont say he is average dat bugs me alot

[henchmen]

He's average....don't reply? :roll:

This ought to be tough...I haven't said a word about TO in days. You guys are just making a mountain out of a mole hill.

He's an OK receiver, whether you like it or not Penny. Tough if you're bugged..I have a right to my opinion. He's OK..That's it.

I just wish people who know nothing about the situation would just STFU already...it's boring. No one in these lobbies has any direct input or outcome to the situation...so why keep BLAH BLAH BLAH'ing over a guy who's not worth BLAH BLAH BLAH'ing over. None of you are T.O. and it's rediculous reading from you guys as to WHAT TO wants...you guys don't know squat about what TO wants except to quote excerpts from the web. Thanks but the Dream Job contest on ESPN for the next sports analyst is almost over..too late

Portis going to Washington is a much more interesting topic but because this CLOWN makes a scene...everyone thinks it's hot s-hit.

I'm sick of TO TO TO TO TO TO TO and don't tell me not to reply Penny...there's 2 Weeks of Ravens and TO crap polluting the airwaves...I'm covered in enough TO slime to make the people at Nickelodeon Jealous...I'm just sick of waking up everyday and all you people can talk about is something you have no control over.

YIPPIE KAY FR_CKING YAY! Owens is a Raven...YIPPIE KAY YAY...he's an Eagle....

next? :roll:

Talk about beating a DEAD HORSE :shock:

[rave_nomad]

Terrell Owens is a great Receiver no matter what you think stenchmen...
And this is a hot topic...its always a topic on sportscenter and around town ...talk radio, the sports shack down the street...its a big deal ...and your not a ravens fan ..so why are you even looking at the post?
When did you become a moderater? Or when did you become lord of telling the people what they can and should say in these forums?? I thought so ...Please no more thoughts from the peanut gallery about the ravens ..thanks ....worry about your own team...and just because YOU think the ravens are an average team that doesnt make it true! Just because YOU think Terrell Owens is an average WR doesnt make that true either!! What exactly are you bassing his being average on?? Stats? I hope not cause last time i checked he had mad crazy stats....The fact that they doeble team him all the time and he still goes to the probowl?? Or the fact that an off year for him gets 1100 yards and 10 TD"s????? Just wanting to know?? But i mean you are some kind of Football Guru right??
Maybe the great and mighty (smelling) Stenchmen can enlighten us all...
I mean we all know the Patriots will repeat as champs right??

and there is no way the Ravens can compete?? Right?? The Patriots will probably blow them out .....like ...ohhh wait no team blew them out last year...or the year before....or the year b4 that.......hmmmm...Looks like the Ravens might be able to hang with your almighty Patriots.....maybe even DARE i say it....Beat them!!!!! (Gasps).....Stenchmen keep thinking the Ravens are average and you can keep thinking that next year when they get beat by the Ravens......what then stenchmen?? (if) (when) the Ravens beat them next year ...what does that make them??
It wouldnt be a real upset ......any given Sunday!!


and if you dont like the Ravens posts .....STOP READING THEM!!!!!!!!!!

STOP READING THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP READING THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://media.baltimoreravens.com//images2/Z_Game_vs_Broncos_10-26-03/rb3.jpg

[henchmen]

I have a right to my opinion. He's OK..That's it.

[ambrosio4]

http://media.baltimoreravens.com//images2/Z_Game_vs_Broncos_10-26-03/rb3.jpg

If you have killed someone or involved in a related felony, raise your hand!

[Bears34]

LMAO---Thats darn hilarious.

[rave_nomad]

In this day and age who hasnt gotten in trouble??? At some point we all do ... Convictions are what count.... and the count is up to 0...so get a clue.....anyone can acuse anyone else of any crime...but that doesnt make it true...why dont instead of making fun of Ray Lewis's past (which he was innocent) why dont you make fun of his on field game??
Or how about Jamal ...make fun of his game on the field....these are low attacks because you have nothing else....get over it and grow up...and stenchmen "my opinion is Terrell Owens is in the top 3 of receivers in the NFL at the moment...and his numbers are the best since '98' that even beats Randy Moss and Marvin Harrison..So if you go by the numbers its FACT he is a great receiver!!!
http://media.baltimoreravens.com//images2/z_game_vs_Jaguars_11-2-03/rj23.jpg

[henchmen]

I have a right to my opinion. He's OK..That's it.

What part of this don't you understand? It's my opinion and I could care less about yours...F-ck Off loser

[rave_nomad]

its all good stenchmen.....In MY OPINION YOU SUCK!!
The PAtriots are washed up and your a flaming jacka55.....
In mY Opinion T.O. is way better then Any Patriots recevier!!
oooops..thats fact too....just look at the nubers chuuuuuump!
do you really think people care about your da-mn opinion so much??? I dont think so ..at least i have some nice and interesting things to say ....and i am not afraid to speak my mind...i will always be here to do that ..dont worry stenchmen...and after the Ravens destroy the Patriots early in the season ..I will be right here to let you know about it.....
The reign of terrerr is over...

Homeland Defence is gone
the Dynasty never got started


im out peace!

[henchmen]

..at least i have some nice and interesting things to say ....and i am not afraid to speak my mind...i will always be here to do that

You're about 1,000 posts behind for saying interesting things..besides..who in the World thinks you're interesting? Other Ravens Fans?

Dude, when will you get it through your head that everyone else thinks your an idiot and a joke?

Do you really think people believe you receive FAN MAIL? :lol:

You are the saddest member this forum has EVER known. Your points of view are pathetic and FAR from interesting. You popped a boner over T.O. and that makes you interesting?

Let it be known that the REST OF US THINK YOU ARE ARE A COMPLETE A55.

and THAT is a FACT! You're sorry a55 Ravens don't stand a chance in Foxboro but I forgot I was talking to the King of the Wishful Thinkers Himself. :roll:

You keep parading around in your messy diaper while the rest of us NON-RAVENS fans laugh at you. You are the biggest TOOL to ever speak his mind and I cannot believe an idiot like you would make a POLL to see if people like you or not. More people clearly stated they DON'T like you...so who's sending you the GET WELL cards? Raven's fans with bigger Nubs than you?

BTW...you really suck at this ESPN FOOTBALL game..BAD. Kraftsingles only beat a dead horse cause the rest of us who ALREADY WHOOPED YOU knew you were doomed. You said the day Kraft beats you is the day you know nothing about Football....you know nothing about football.

You'd take T.O. over New England's receivers? Does it bother you to know that Troy Brown has 2 rings? How many rings does T.O. have?

How many rings will T.O. get before he retires?

None...especially if he has that sucka55 Boller throwing to him. Your team blows goats just like you do. period
its all good stenchmen.....In MY OPINION YOU SUCK!!
The PAtriots are washed up and your a flaming jacka55.....
Don't be Jealous Bro...you will ALWAYS be 2nd Best when it comes to henchmen. Washed up? LOL Criminal Free and Beating up the NFL every week. Learn it. Respect it. Again..jealousy rears its ugly head. You wish the Ravens were 1/2 as good as New England.

Now PEACE THAT b-TCH!

[rave_nomad]

Hey Stenchmen im sure people are fed up with your love of the sorry a55 patriots!! they just dont say anything and as mych as you think people like or respect you ...wrong ...you have people that hate you all too much.....There are some Ravens Receivers out there with a SB ring as well and next season is looking bright for my team.....just because your best defensive player Ty Law wants out of New England and your only RB is kevin Faulk doesnt mean you have to be a hater ...and if you in all honesty can sit there and say the Ravens dont have a shot at the Super Bowl or beating the Patriots you are F-ing Daft!!!
I have run across a ton of people on this forum that hates your guts!!
You cant get rid of me Stenchmen..you never will....Kraft Singles is a cheese artist who uses the Raiders .....you couldnt beat him....he went for it on every 4th down......to be honest with you i was surprised i got as many positive votes for my pole as i did....but i have been getting E-mails from Ravens fans asking whats next for me and the Ravens....

So go ahead and think New England is a lock ...but come gametime its all over for them and for you ....i will not stop hounding you when the Patriots get smacked!!!......If i were you i would start paraying to the football gods now that the patriots win and not only win but win in a way that there is no doubt as to who the better team is......after all the Patriots blow out so many teams it shouldnt be hard right?? And the Ravens suck so bad they can never beat the all mighty Patriots and there awesome run game??? ohhh i cant wait....


The Dynasty never got started
Homeland Defence is over

[henchmen]

Hey Stenchmen im sure people are fed up with your love of the sorry a55 patriots!! they just dont say anything and as mych as you think people like or respect you ...wrong ...you have people that hate you all too much.....I have run across a ton of people on this forum that hates your guts!!

2nd Challenge: name me 3 people out of your TONS that hate me

Waiting....

Don't you ever get tired of Lying to make yourself feel better?

[rave_nomad]

I wouldnt get any pleasure out of hearing myself lie....I wont name names..you know who they are...i know who they are.....get over it ...your not liked by everyone!!!

HOMELAND DEFENCE IS OVER
THE DYNASTY NEVER BEGAN


http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/7380/brdwords.gif

[henchmen]

I could honestly care less who likes me bro.....I never made a POLL to see who likes me :roll:

[ambrosio4]

HOMELAND DEFENCE

I think someone needs to explain to our lil rave_nomad that just because people hold up signs of the letter "D" and then a picture of a fence, it doesn't mean you spell it defence....

[rave_nomad]

hey genious its my pun on Stenchmen...get over it junior!!! Why dont you and stenchmen start dating or something??


HOMELAND DEFENCE IS OVER
THE DYNASTY NEVER BEGAN

[henchmen]

HOMELAND DEFENCE

I think someone needs to explain to our lil rave_nomad that just because people hold up signs of the letter "D" and then a picture of a fence, it doesn't mean you spell it defence....

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yah...I was going to say something but I payed for my schooling :roll:

[Nomahh]

well looks like rave lost that one

[TjM]

Hey Stenchmen im sure people are fed up with your love of the sorry a55 patriots!! they just dont say anything and as mych as you think people like or respect you ...wrong ...you have people that hate you all too much.....There are some Ravens Receivers out there with a SB ring as well and next season is looking bright for my team.....just because your best defensive player Ty Law wants out of New England and your only RB is kevin Faulk doesnt mean you have to be a hater ...and if you in all honesty can sit there and say the Ravens dont have a shot at the Super Bowl or beating the Patriots you are F-ing Daft!!!
I have run across a ton of people on this forum that hates your guts!!
You cant get rid of me Stenchmen..you never will....Kraft Singles is a cheese artist who uses the Raiders .....you couldnt beat him....he went for it on every 4th down......to be honest with you i was surprised i got as many positive votes for my pole as i did....but i have been getting E-mails from Ravens fans asking whats next for me and the Ravens....

So go ahead and think New England is a lock ...but come gametime its all over for them and for you ....i will not stop hounding you when the Patriots get smacked!!!......If i were you i would start paraying to the football gods now that the patriots win and not only win but win in a way that there is no doubt as to who the better team is......after all the Patriots blow out so many teams it shouldnt be hard right?? And the Ravens suck so bad they can never beat the all mighty Patriots and there awesome run game??? ohhh i cant wait....


The Dynasty never got started
Homeland Defence is over

O cut the **** nomad your act is stale too.

[TjM]

I wouldnt get any pleasure out of hearing myself lie....I wont name names..you know who they are...i know who they are.....get over it ...your not liked by everyone!!!

HOMELAND DEFENCE IS OVER
THE DYNASTY NEVER BEGAN


http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/7380/brdwords.gif

Gee I wonder why he wont name names BTW Terrel looks good in green eh?? Dont sweat it though that 5th round pick could be the next Brady if you only had someone who knew what they were doing picking him

[TjM]

hey genious its my pun on Stenchmen...get over it junior!!! Why dont you and stenchmen start dating or something??


HOMELAND DEFENCE IS OVER
THE DYNASTY NEVER BEGAN

Dating? How the F**k old are you 12?

[ambrosio4]

TjM,

You're about a week late on this thread. Last friday, Rave made comments about Raven resignings, and that was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. Long story short (see locked threads), Rave won himself a two week vacation...(if not permeant, not sure to be honest)

[TjM]

Sorry man Lost myself to MVP baseball on the Xbox and one of the most exciting Hockey games Ive attended (Bruins score in OT with .3 seconds to go) Havent been around in awhile