Bertuzzi's action: Redemption or low class?

[Warden]

Bertuzzi sought revenge when he punched Moore in the head from behind while skating at center ice. Bertuzzi jumped on Moore's back and drove him face first into the ice, knocking him unconscious.

[DfromthaB]

nobody voted for my poll so im not doing so to others

[Warden]

BTW

Todd Bertuzzi has been suspended indefinitely, without pay. A hearing will be conducted Wednesday at 9 a.m., ET, at the League's Toronto office.

[OrangeAndBlack]

If Bertuzzi has to report to the Toronto office, then it's a bare minimum of 5 games....I haven't seent he clip yet but I think it'll be quite a bit more than that!

[Prowler24x]

what did moore do to bertuzzi...?

[OrangeAndBlack]

I don't know what to vote either....to me it was a Low class redemption!

[bonham1963]

what did moore do to bertuzzi...?

Moore hurt Naslund earlier in the season. Naslund was out 3 games. You could say there was a 'bounty' on Moore, last night. Bertuzzi chose an extreme method of collecting that 'bounty'. :shock:

[_43_]

I saw it last nite.
I would give him 30 games, not only did he intentionally injury a player,
he gives the game of hockey a bad image and should be worried about legal action by BC authorities, how is that any different thant he mcsorley/brashaer ordeal?

The canucks pretty much threw that whole game to go after moore.
and at times aebischer.

Their is not relation and or comparison to when moore hit naslund.
naslund put himself in a bad position and he could have been hit a lot worse than he was (which was legal).

[Warden]

Moore has a broken neck - 2 broken vertebrae.

see ya later Mr. Bertuzzi, you won't be playing for a while.

[_43_]

30 games sounds to light any more

[GoYanks016]

I don't like the Avs or Canucks, This comes straight from a hockey fan.

TODD BERTUZZI, I HOPE YOU GET HIT BY THE AVALANCHE TEAM BUS!

The hit on Nasland wasn't like a cross check to the face or anything, if any retaliation was called for, it was a fight, not jumping on top off a defenseless guy from behind, and breaking his neck, or whatever injury he got.

He couldve gotten killed.

Todd Bertuzzi deserves a $1million fine, a suspension for until Jan '05, and he should be forced to keep the Pepsi Center's toilets squeky clean.


Everytime any non-hockey fan looks at the sports news, they'll see this and say "Wow, hockey is so ***, those morons are out to kill each other!"

Plus, when and if Bertuzzi comes back, he's gotta watch his own back EVERY game.

and if any one has been living under a rock, if you go there fast enough you'll see--http://hockeyfights.com/videos/

[Warden]

His punch from behind wasnt even cheap - it was totally against any sportsmanship definitions....

And while I agree that he didnt stomp the player on ice, any damages were caused by Bert's action. I think he gotta be suspended till the next season.

[SuppaMan]

TODD BERTUZZI, I HOPE YOU GET HIT BY THE AVALANCHE TEAM BUS!

:lol:

YES! finally someone agrees w/ me(warden). He has to shoulder all the responsibility of what happened to moore, its called responsibility for your actions/accountability. He now has to suffer the consequences.

[Bachtisov]

His punch from behind wasnt even cheap - it was totally against any sportsmanship definitions....

And while I agree that he didnt stomp the player on ice, any damages were caused by Bert's action. I think he gotta be suspended till the next season.

I agree with Warden he should be suspended for the rest of the season and pay a hefty fine. I dont think the police should get involved.

[DfromthaB]

15 games MAXIMUM, I would say between 10-15 games....

[Mondo]

WARDEN! You forgot the "I don't care" option.

[Warden]

there are cant be careless people in Hockey Discussions forum when we talking about major incident.

Its something that may affect all teams/players/fans and may even affect hockey rules.

[Mondo]

Wow, you really make the rules in here, don'tcha?

What about a "WHO CARES?!?!?" option?

Cause I'll pick that one!

[Warden]

Mondo - where the heck did you see me making rules.

ever heard about PERSONAL OPINION? Cut your annoing comments. Dont be Prowler.

I know one thing - if you dont care about something - you will not post there. Just walk away from post that you dont care and remember about "nonsence posts" rules....

[clutch120]

He couldve gotten killed.

Todd Bertuzzi deserves a $1million fine, a suspension for until Jan '05, and he should be forced to keep the Pepsi Center's toilets squeky clean.



well said.... well said...

exactly how i feel

[Lanche]

there r tons of newspapers and hockey forums where people are saying that bertuzzi was only doing his job and that moore got what he deserved. personally i think its ***** myself, he should be done for atleast a calendar year

[Warden]

The NHL will announce its decision on the Vancouver Canucks star winger at 9 a.m. EST Thursday with Colin Campbell, the league's vice-president and disciplinarian, and chief legal officer Bill Daly holding a briefing one hour later at the league's Toronto office. A lengthy suspension is expected.

[Kon00100]

i dont see how people can compare this to mcsourlay. mcsourlay used his stick with the intent of injuring a player, bertuzzi obliviously didnt say "i wanna break this guys neck" before hitting him. it was a cheap shot yes, but he had no intention of hurting the guy that bad. the 2 colorado players who jumped on the pile afterwards and propelled them and steve's face along the ice didnt help too much either. i think hell be givin the rest of the season and part of the playoffs, and i totally disagree on the police getting involved.

-My 2 Cents-

[Warden]

When reckless driver changing lines like crazy, he got no intention to injury anyone or to cause accident. However its his reckless driving that causes accident where people getting hurt or even killed.

Same here. Yes, he punched him without intention to inujry. However it was HIS PUNCH that caused that injury. And he MUST be punished for such action. Without this punch Moor may never suffer broken neck in his life.... Bert hit him and caused this injury. Now he is responsible for it.

I honestly dont care about his intention. His intention weren't good in a first place anyway. He didnt smooch him out of love.

[K Bomber]

Why attempt to exceed someone who has already said it best?

I played the game in the rep systems that feed junior hockey in Canada until I was 13. The things I saw as part of that experience made the decision, that my parents and I made in conjunction, to quit the game at that point, a no-brainer and I've never laced them up since

As a fan of the Guelph Storm, I saw Bertuzzi play for a good chunk of his OHL career. What he did was inexcusable, not just as a hockey player, but as a human being

I am deeply embarassed for "Canada's Game"............

The mad cycle of NHL violence goes round `n' round largely because the industry is so devoid of true leaders willing to separate themselves from the pack mentality that defines the politically correct line on so many issues.

That line heard over and over yesterday was that Bertuzzi's unprovoked, unwarranted and cowardly attack on Colorado's Steve Moore two nights ago that left Moore with a fractured neck was an "unfortunate" incident.

Unfortunate? Try sickening, despicable and an affront to the sport.

But you won't hear that from this league, an environment in which goalies were once labelled as sissies for wearing masks and players thought of as less-than-manly for wearing helmets.

You won't hear a player or coach or GM or union rep stand up and call for justice on behalf of Moore. You likely won't hear any significant figures in the sport demand the NHL put an end to these vicious incidents that every two or three years lands one of the league's players in a criminal court.

You will only hear excuses and clichés and silence and empty apologies.

It's all part of a sick, age-old hockey mentality. A running back in football can cut through a hole and get drilled by a middle linebacker, and then shake off the blow and retreat to his huddle.

He doesn't demand that a player on his own team cross to the other huddle and challenge that linebacker to a fight.

In hockey, however, every clean hit is an insult to be avenged.

Every issue, to those who believe in this culture, is best resolved with fists.

You hit our guy, we high-stick you.

You knock our guy out, we put your guy in the hospital.

As long as that remains the dominant mentality, people like Steve Moore will have to suffer now and then.
Somebody will have to die, or at least be confined to a wheelchair for life.

Then, all the changes that should be made, will be made.

So the next time you're at your community hockey arena watching teenage boys play, pick out the best player on the ice. Then fast-forward a decade and mentally assign that kid the role of sacrificial lamb for the NHL, the player who will be assaulted on the ice and lose his life or the feeling in his limbs, permanently.

His sacrifice will be the impetus that finally changes the NHL forever.

But what if it's your son, or your sister's son? What if it's that tow-headed kid two houses over who practises his shot endlessly in the driveway, banging shots off the garage door while calling himself Sakic or Naslund or Roberts as he scores to win an imaginary Stanley Cup?

How will you feel then about a league that stubbornly insists fighting and mayhem and mindless violence are vital parts of the entertainment package?
Thankfully, Moore won't be that unlucky person who ends up dead or in a wheelchair after being assaulted during a game.

But somebody's going to have to pay the ultimate price for this league to reform its thuggish ways, and can you imagine how quickly the NHL and all its affiliated leagues will move to end the presence of brawling in the game then?

It will be banned the very next day, of course.

Instead of waiting, it would make far more sense to get the goons out of the NHL for good now by banning fighting and prohibiting players from taking disputes into their own hands while simultaneously cracking down in draconian style on dangerous play.

Any high stick — game misconduct. Any hit from behind — five games. Any intentional shot to the head — 10 games. Second offences? Triple the penalty.

Australia's Rugby League (and Football League, too) faced similar challenges in the late 1970s, and worked aggressively to outlaw fighting, king hitting (tackling from behind), eye gouging and all manner of vicious rule-breaking that was killing the sport.

Today, Rugby League is as successful as ever, just as brutal and hard-hitting, but without the thuggery and goonish tactics. TV ratings, interestingly, have doubled.

The NHL could surely experience the same rebirth.

Imagine the glowing legacy Gary Bettman would own if he was the NHL commissioner who finally rid the game of the blight of brawling for good.

For Canadians, it must be sobering to reflect upon violent attacks like Bertuzzi on Moore, or by May on Steve Heinze four years ago, and realize these were acts committed by good old native sons while the other guy wasn't looking.

Just like Marty McSorley on Donald Brashear.

Just like Matt Johnson on Jeff Beukeboom, or Tie Domi on Scott Niedermayer. Just like Dale Hunter on Pierre Turgeon. Just like Claude Lemieux on Kris Draper.

Always when the opponent's head was turned. Always homegrown products of Canada's junior hockey system.

From a nation that found its identity through its heroism and courage in two World Wars, we have somehow produced a legion of millionaire sneak attack artists on skates.

[Prowler24x]

ever heard about PERSONAL OPINION? Cut your annoing comments. Dont be Prowler.

Funny Warden :lol:

[pgamer]

To think I liked Bertuzzi's game...tough, no-nonsense...but there has to be limits...and that hit was out of line...I can see the NHL crackin' down big-time on excessive force, and turning Hockey into "Basketball" on ice, were even the slightest touch is a penalty...okay maybe I'm exaggerating...but the year suspension is definitely merited...an additonal fine and community service should do as well

Pgamer