Best NBA Player

[Trusow]

Whos the greatest NBA player? Don't even say MJ either.

[albany_projects]

Hakeem Olajuwon. Nuff said!

[Streetballin4life]

Whos the greatest NBA player? Don't even say MJ either.

Alright man, we gotta have a serious talk, Michael Jeffrey Jordan is the greatest Basketball Player of All Time, no one will be as good as him, no one will do what he has done, if you are sayin someone like Hakeem Olojuwan is the greatest player your messed dude, and you shouldn't be on these boards, man, thats just ignorance.

[sixerfan112]

are you serious you guys forget the old timers....nobody and i mean nobody will ever be as dominant as wilt chaimberlain.....he could do anything....people called him a ball hog so he led the league in assists that year.....heh a center leading the league in assists is flat out amazing.....you cant have an answer for that there is noway that anybody is better than wilt the stilt or will ever be as dominating as he was!!!!!!!!

[REDSFAN2004]

wilt was good yeah i agree but the best of all time is michael jordan nuff said.

[Thek1llahd]

You say nuff said because theres nothing you CAN say to backup your statement.

Wilt is the greatest basketball player of all time, no one ever had an answer to him. He AVERAGED 50 points and 25 rebs per game in a season. And is the only player every to have 100 points in a single game , and probably will be the only player. He has led the leagues in every major statistical category and played against some of the greatest centers (the great Bill Russell for one) in basketball.

[redpeper]

modern day is MJ by far. Shaq is dominant, but does not change the game like MJ did. However, the all time greatest was BY FAR Wilt Chamberlin. In one season he averaged 50 ppg and 26 rpg... dont tell me anyone has ever come CLOSE to that. He made the allstar game 13 out of 14 seasons played. His all-time averages over 14 years were 30 ppg 23 rpg 4 apg

[gilby]

You say nuff said because theres nothing you CAN say to backup your statement.

Wilt is the greatest basketball player of all time, no one ever had an answer to him.

Well, there is that annoying fact of all the extra rings that Bill Russel ended up with, and them being contemporaries and playing the same position and all.

I'm just saying.

[CDWJUSTIN]

you guys are all wrong Bill Gates is really better than all of them nba players hes just too busy with his company too play in the nba

[Farmer3292]

MJ

[tc23]

todays players are bigger, stronger, faster....MJ was the greatest of all time.....Wilt was ahead of his time and dominated his era. However, if u put him up against Shaq, Wilt would get run over. MJ led his team to two 3-peats, which wouldve been an 8-peat had he not prematurely retired> Sure, MJ had a great supporting cast, but it was MJ that made his teammates better. How did Pippen do after MJ left?

[SAXMANLA]

correct! it will always be mj......MAGIC JOHNSON!!!
are you guys kidding me? he revolutionized the game being a 6'9 point guard with extreme court vision

[tc23]

ha....wrong mj but i cant hate cuz he led MSU to the title :!: :!: :!:

[remogunz]

Hakeem Olajuwon. Nuff said!



did someone say DREAM SHAKE!!!! Hakeem was unstoppable

[10 Romain Sato]

nobody will ever be as dominant as wilt chaimberlain Pit Wilt on a modern team and he would just be a rival of Shaq, the rest of the league was a lot smaller and worse than it has been since.

[krzyzewskisucks]

Wilt played back when there was no defense, you show me a 40 year old who can come in and score 42 points in a game like MJ did, I might retract my thinking process, if Wilt was so good then why is he 4th on the all time scoring list? MJ was better than Wilt in scoring, assisting (had more careeer), stealing, 3 pt percentage, FT percentage, was more versatile (MJ could score in the post, in the mid range, from the 3)

[lun4tic]

There are/have been too many great players in the league to have one best, Wilt vs. Jordan... it doesnt even make sense, Wilt played center, if your gonna tell me that jordan had better 3 pt. percentage, well i'd really hope so, he trained for that his whole life, if your gonna tell me jordan had a better inside percentage then wilt, maybe i'd pick jordan over wilt then, i mean, wilt would **** jordan in inside scoring, blocks, rebounding, jordan would do the same in outside scoring *since he was a Shooting guard, he was meant to shoot the ball* and so i'd hope he is also leading in scoring overall, three points and all that crap. you can't really compare one position to the other, and u can't compare old to new, or even old to old or new to new, Bill Russel, has more rings, and he played as an awesome center, he would be considered one of the greatest players ever lived, wilt did the same, and so he belongs up there, MJ, Shaq + Kobe, Hakeem, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar... they were all Great players for a reason, they did what they could do in their own era's and they did it the best possible way for that time. Even in future, there is a lot of potential, and Great players are being born, Future Legends might be playing the game right now (LeBron, Wade, Mello, Okafur, Howard, Gordon...) the list can go on for who is gonna be a great player later on, there is no ONE GREATEST player, and there never will be... why? because team isnt made by one player, and one player by himself can't do anything for the team, he always needs a supporting cast, and if put with the right group, that one player will flourish and become a great player, MJ is a prime example of this, and just to prove the point that by one player making others better but not having the right group to support him wont work... Jason Kidd... he makes the players around me much better than what they were, he uses their potential to the highest mark (Jefferson... K-Mart) but even then, he didnt have the right supporting cast, and that's why he has not won the trophy yet...

Good Night

[MrGSCoTT]

Wilt is the greatest even without the championship rings.

Right below Wilt is MJ and Big O. MJ for being the unstoppable force behind six NBA Championships, two three-peats; Big O for a single statisical accomplishment: averaging a triple-double. Lebron James is still trying to get his first and currently, players are lauded for getting double-doubles.

[toleman]

I am going to have to say Larry Bird for me. He won championships with Dennis Johnson, Danny Ainge, Kevin McHale, and Robert Parish. With an old and useless Bill Walton coming off of the bench. If you are on the floor and you look over to your bench and all that is over there is Greg Kite, Scott Wedman and Jerry Sichting. . . um Boston you have a problem!!! Bird and Jordan made their teams great because they didn't have great players. Bird had the most handicaps(slow, can't jump) but had the greatest assets (heart and a desire to win). Russell had Cousy, Havlicek, Tom Heinsohn and Sam Jones(team leader in scoring 1963). You could put me on that team and we would contend for the Title. Bird shoots from outside inside and passes like Magic! The best hands down!!! Im out!

Nice pass Isiah!!!

[krzyzewskisucks]

but if wilt played MJ, MJ would cross him up on the perimeter and beat him to the basket, they play different positions, but no way Wilt was as dominant, he didn't have as many championships, and he played in a time where there was hardly any defense. Stats dont tell the whole story

[23_king_james]

Its hard to say whos the greatest cuz there so many great ones and they all didnt play in the same era. what if they were able to train like the players do today. Then It would be hard to say. But i think it would have to be MJ (I was never a Bulls fan or a MJ fan) No one has accomplished what he did. he made the Bulls unbeatable. If they didnt have jim they would of never did as good as they did. When MJ was at his best he could be beat 1 on 1. but know you got players like Kobe and Lebron. They could be the next great basketball players. I would love to see MJ at his prime play one of them.

[23_king_james]

Its hard to say whos the greatest cuz there so many great ones and they all didnt play in the same era. what if they were able to train like the players do today. Then It would be hard to say. But i think it would have to be MJ (I was never a Bulls fan or a MJ fan) No one has accomplished what he did. he made the Bulls unbeatable. If they didnt have jim they would of never did as good as they did. When MJ was at his best he could be beat 1 on 1. but know you got players like Kobe and Lebron. They could be the next great basketball players. I would love to see MJ at his prime play one of them.

[tarheels725]

this board didn't watch much classic basketball obviously... where is bill russel in this conversation??? i would say that micheal jordan is the greatest talent-wise and as a competitor, no one can match jordan. however, no one could even come close to russel's level of success. 11 championships in 13 seasons. are you kidding me? how does this guy not get put into the most valuable player of all time conversation. :( sad guys, sad. I can't put wilt as the number one player of all time. nothing against Wilt, but there is something i can fault him for... his free throw shooting. While Wilt was one of the most dominating players in the game, his free throw shooting killed him at times. There were times when the Sixers/Lakers couldn't throw it into him in close situations because his free throw shooting was such a liability. Now, I never saw Wilt play live, but I think that Shaq could give him a run for his money. I think Wilt, while being very physical, could beat Shaq with hooks, pump fakes, and quick post moves. I don't know though, Shaq can be pretty quick at times... Back to Wilt vs. Russel, if you put Wilt in Russel's position, do they win championships?? Yes they do, but I don't know about 11 out of 13. Russel was such a dominant shot blocker and rebounder and he fit so well into the Celtics. Russel just had one of the greatest winner's mentalities of all time. My .02

[jaryane]

I can understand the fact that People can say Wilt Chamberlin was the greatest ever, but you have to look at the quality of players his size at that period in time. Wilt had but maybe 1 or 2 people in the entire league that was decent enought to hold him. Hell, I'd dominate in a game vs 5 footers. Not taking a lot away from this "Legend" BUT only trying to emphasize that the talent around the league at his position was slim (at the time)
When it comes to being the best player because you play the best players and win. I'd hate to join the bandwagon, but you'd have to say Jordan. Jordan played at a time when there were "Names" at the positions he held, and he blew the competition away. He might not have scored 100 points in a game, but things he accomplished with so many "Great" players he faced was amazing.

Now if we want to break it down to who Wilt played and what he did (statistically) and who Jordan played, and how each did against there opponent. I'll do so at a later time, but hopefully you get the picture. :?

[TheKingofVa]

Shaq

[tarheels725]

jaryane, im not saying wilt was the greatest, but i have to disagree with you. Wilt did play against some of the games greatest centers of all time. Guys like Wilt and Kareem played againts Bill Russel, Walt Bellamy, Dave Cowens, Willis Reed, Bill Walton, Bob Lanier, Zelmo Beaty, Nate Thurmond, etc... That's hardly 2 players... I'm still stickin with Bill Russel. No one could win like Bill Russel. Bill Russel was probably the smartest big man to ever play the game. The way he could position himself for the block, the rebound was unmatchable. He was just relentless. If he played the game today he would probably be more of a power forward, but in my mind he would still be dominant. And remember, no one could win like Russel.
And I'm sorry, I love him, but you can't call Shaq the greatest player of all time. I love Shaq, big heat fan (season ticket holder), but shaq hasn't really been challenged by anyone. We never really will know how shaq compares to the greatest players of all time because the other great centers have played against other very good centers. Even Hakeem had Ewing and Robinson. Shaq had Divac, Smits, and Greg Ostertag lol. You can't say Shaq has faced anyone all that great... hakeem and robinson were on the downside of their career when they matched up against shaq.
Back to Russel. The guy was a winner! 11 out of 13!! And you can't say he won because of Red, because of the other celtics. Russel won 2 collegiate championships along with an olympic gold. He was a winner wherever he went. And the greatest thing about him was his unselfishness. He could really have mixed with anyone (with the exception of Kobe) because he didn't have to have the ball on offense to be dominant. He should be an easy pick.
Ill give you my top 5 and my reasons why...
1. Bill Russel
2. Michael Jordan- This is tough. If you're playin one game for all the money, i want michael. but since 11 out of 13 is just too impossible to look over, i have to put michael as #2. he can shoot, he can rebound, he can drive, great defender, greatest competitor. one of the best clutch guys in the game. still, i have to put him at #2.
3. Magic Johnson- Johnson is one of the greatest players of all time and also one of the most versatile. He's a 6'8" PG who could play anywhere, even center effectively. Magic's greatness came from his ability to make all of his teammates better. If i'm playin in the NBA and i want a guy to get me involved, im lookin for Magic. Magic could dominate a game while scoring in single digits. You can't even say that about Michael.
4. Larry Bird- He was probably better than Magic for a couple years, but as far as longetivity goes, i have to give the edge to Magic. However, Bird was a great. Unlike Magic, Bird never ever ever choked when there were big games on the line. He was the best player on one of the best teams of all time (86 celts). He wasn't great on D, but he could shoot like no one else. And McHale and Parish were good, but without Bird, they barely made the playoffs.
5. O. Robertson- C'mon, the guy averaged a triple double for a whole season. Oscar was very much like Michael Jordan, and who knows, maybe we are giving him the short end of the deal? But we really don't know how good he could be because his miluakee teams didn't have much of a supporting cast. If you put him on the bulls in place of michael, i think you are a pretty damn good team. but do you win 6? i dont think so.
6. Wilt- Sorry wilt, but you didn't do enough for me in big games. he blew a 3-1 lead against russel's celts in the finals. he didn't take the clutch shots. his free throw shooting was suspect, and thats an understatement.
7. Kareem- scoring title, 6 championships on 2 different teams, dominant in college, unstoppable on offense. But still only the 3rd greatest center of all time.
8. Jerry West- best shooter ever. Mr. Clutch. There's a reason the NBA logo is his image. Great GM too
9. Elgin Baylor- First guy to really play above the rim. Only knock on him is that he never won a championship. You almost have to feel bad for the guy considering they won the year after he retired...
10. Bob Pettit- Great scorer and rebounder. Best PF of all time.

[MWEBB]

Hands Down MJ is The GREATEST of all time. There was not a flaw in his game.

[tarheels725]

Hands Down MJ is The GREATEST of all time. There was not a flaw in his game.

he didn't make everyone around him better like Magic did... Michael was selfish. Rightely so, but you can't just say he was the greatest because there was not a flaw in his game.

[NelsonMandella]

to say anyone from before the 80's is the best ever is just ridiculous...it was a different era, terrible players...yao ming, shaq, tim duncan, etc. would ejaculate on wilt chamberlain...he was not any good. if he played right now, he would not average 10 points. players are getting better and better. i think lebron IS the next jordan, and dont say hes overrated...he is amazing.

as of now...its jordan, but bryant, mcgrady, and james are all as talented as he was...he could be topped eventually.

[tarheels725]

to say anyone from before the 80's is the best ever is just ridiculous...it was a different era, terrible players...yao ming, shaq, tim duncan, etc. would ejaculate on wilt chamberlain...he was not any good. if he played right now, he would not average 10 points. players are getting better and better. i think lebron IS the next jordan, and dont say hes overrated...he is amazing.

as of now...its jordan, but bryant, mcgrady, and james are all as talented as he was...he could be topped eventually.

please, dont make any basketball analysis until you've actually watched some pre-80s basketball. saying that yao ming would ejaculate on wilt chamberlain is like saying minute bol would own shaq...

[g3455h]

The best player ever other than M.J. was Oscar Robertson, the man averagd a triple double one season!

[tarheels725]

The best player ever other than M.J. was Oscar Robertson, the man averagd a triple double one season!

wilt averaged over 50 points one season? one season of stats doesn't make you the greatest.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

are you serious you guys forget the old timers....nobody and i mean nobody will ever be as dominant as wilt chaimberlain.....he could do anything
Ok, let's all take a trip WAY back when Wilt played. Think of how weak the opponents probably were, there were probably like 1 player on each team that had a bead of talent. Now to MJ, the NBA was full of stars and this guy pops out scoring 32 points EVERY GAME! That's unheard of at this age. He led the Bulls to what 6 championships, and during the Salary Cap Era? That's incredible. Heck, if I remember right, it was illegal to DUNK back when Wilt played. Think b4 u say something stupid like that. Wilt may have had the better stats, but he didn't have the better skills. If both of these two guys were in their prime still, I think you'd see Michael dominating and Wilt finishing 2-10 in the MVP Running.

[CoachDadby]

Knowing the names of the "post 80's" NBA greats is like knowing the names of 4 out of 5 dentists that recomend Trtident.

[tarheels725]

are you serious you guys forget the old timers....nobody and i mean nobody will ever be as dominant as wilt chaimberlain.....he could do anything
Ok, let's all take a trip WAY back when Wilt played. Think of how weak the opponents probably were, there were probably like 1 player on each team that had a bead of talent. Now to MJ, the NBA was full of stars and this guy pops out scoring 32 points EVERY GAME! That's unheard of at this age. He led the Bulls to what 6 championships, and during the Salary Cap Era? That's incredible. Heck, if I remember right, it was illegal to DUNK back when Wilt played. Think b4 u say something stupid like that. Wilt may have had the better stats, but he didn't have the better skills. If both of these two guys were in their prime still, I think you'd see Michael dominating and Wilt finishing 2-10 in the MVP Running.

ummm you suck... i just posted how much talent wilt played against. one player on each team with a bead of talent? are you kidding me??? you obviously know nothing about classic basketball so please, please dont try to be part of the conversation...

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

If you go by ppg, out of centers, Shaq is second, behind only Wilt. 6 of the top 10 scoring PFs/C are from the 80's or later. Considering the 60's were a time when a lot of the most dominant centers ever played, they are the minority in the stat book.

[systofadwn93]

Whos the greatest NBA player? Don't even say MJ either.

Wilt my main man Chamberlain is the best eva..!!!!! u cant deny him.......But MJ is swee stuff....you cant count him out.....hes amazin


Kareem abdul jabaar or however u spell it.....IS ALSO SUMTIN ELSE!!!!

[LeBronDWadeMelo]

Everyone has their own opinion about who the greatest player is. Michael Jordan has my vote, but someone else may say something else. You don't have to agree with another person about their views, just respect them.

[razorbackfan]

OMG come on, the best player ever, or that there ever will be is MJ, hands down, no contest, ask any person that knows nothing about the nba and they know the answer to that, the only reason a person would say it wasnt MJ was cause they dont like him for whatever reason, but numbers dont lie, and the numbers say that MJ is the best ever. saying he isnt is sorta like saying babe ruth was a decent hitter in his day

[wisconsin]

I got to go with raferal arujo from Toronto. I think he will be a superstar in the futur

[RipHamilton321]

MJ is and always will be the greatest player to ever play the game.

[sixfootjew]

obviously a lot of these opinions are by a bunch of youngsters, except for the guys who brough Russell into the conversation. Wilt would be one of the best if he played in this era. Thers so many guys you can name though, and one i was very dissapointed to not hear. OSCAR ROBERTSON!!!!!!!!! Dude averaged a triple double, did Jordan do that??????

Please dont tell me there were no other talents at that time, cause thats a bunch of bs.

I dont know if I think the big O is the best of all time, but I can say hes accomplished something noone else has. (averaged a Triple DOuble 4 a season)

100 point games - Wilt / Dujuan Wagner in High School, good ol' ghetto Camden high in NJ, and cant forget Regg's sister Sheryl, she also dropped 100 before.

Most assists in a game - 32 assists by Scott Skiles.

I could go on 4 days, but I dont want to share my expertise with you folks.

[ABLaw]

the best NBA player ouside of MJ was Wilt Chamberlin, 40ppg in a season is just plain sick, i dont care who it was against or when it occured

[sixfootjew]

i can listen to you guys all day, but who is the only player to average a triple double for a season



the big o baby

OSCAR ROBERTSON....... Best single season of all time...

Wilt was the most dominant player of all time, but he had a weakness in Free Throw shooting, and his other weakness was Bill Russell knocking him out of the playoffs year in and year out..

[BSuelz85king]

MJ is the best
Shaq is the most dominant.

But MJ won't be the best forever the upside of Stars like James and Amare makes me think bout that statement of course it's hard say something like that but they will be Great just Kobe, KG,TD and AI.

[Yung Phenom]

MJ thats all i can say. Hes made some of the most exciting shots. He was just so clutch. He's the reason his team would win. Without him they're nothing

[StartDaGame15]

Whos the greatest NBA player? Don't even say MJ either.

Any chance this could be posted in basketball discussions, next time?

[Infallable]

The hick from French Lick

[truegamer4ever]

THE BEST RIGHT NOW IS VINCE CARTER.HE REMINDS ME OF JORDAN SO MUCH.THE OTHER BEST OLD SKOOL PLAYER WAS LARRY BIRD AND DOMINIQUE WILKINS. WE CAN'T FORGET DOMINIQUE.

[Streetballin4life]

Okay...for all you who didn't say Michael Jordan, never post on this board again. No one even comes CLOSE to MJ and how much he accomplished, and how he was literally unstoppable. Now if you want to say who was the best behind him, okay, but MJ was definetly the best, hands down, he's the most world reknown athlete, and he is the greatest athlete of all time, ****yst on ESPN have even voted him that. No one can touch him, no one could stop him, he came into the league after his sophmore year after hitting the game winning shot against Georgetown in the NCAA tournament AS A FRESHMAN! Then he came into the league after 3 years retirement again at the age of 38 and STILL made an impact and turned around a team, no one else could have done that. 6 Titles, 6 MVP's, 9 straight scoring titles, dunk champ, rookie of the year, defensive player of the year, olympic team who knows how many times, including his rookie year, bfor he even put on an NBA jersey. Michael Jordan was unstoppable, the most dominant athlete in all of Sports. How he retired in the summer of 93 after his father's murder, came back in 95, and won 3 straight titles in 96, 97, and 98, including scoring 38 points in a finals game against the Jazz in '97 with a 101 degree flu. Scoring 63 points against the best team in the NBA, the Boston Celtics in the playoffs in only his 2nd year in the NBA. And going on to score his career high of 69 in 1990 against the Cleveland Cavaliers. He was the greatest clutch player of all time, the smartest, the hardest to guard, the best scorer, the most fun to watch, the most artistic, he is the textbook definition of a athlete, ANYONE who knows ANYTHING about sports, knows that. So for you who are in denial and don't think he is, your ****ing retarted and shouldn't even post on here, bcause you obviously don't know anything about sports, especially basketball. Jordan is worth 22 billion dollars, the richest athlete ever, and one of the richest men in the world, how do you think he got that? By being the GREATEST OF ALL TIME.

[Streetballin4life]

You say nuff said because theres nothing you CAN say to backup your statement.

Wilt is the greatest basketball player of all time, no one ever had an answer to him. He AVERAGED 50 points and 25 rebs per game in a season. And is the only player every to have 100 points in a single game , and probably will be the only player. He has led the leagues in every major statistical category and played against some of the greatest centers (the great Bill Russell for one) in basketball.

^LOOK AT THE ****ING COMPETITION LEVEL! WILT CHAMBERLAIN PLAYED IN THE ERA OF MOSTLY WHITE PEOPLE, AND I'M WHITE, SO DON'T CALL ME A RACIST. HE PLAYED IN THE 1960'S, OOO THAT'S A TOUGH TIME. YOUR TALKING ABOUT A TIME WHERE BOSTON AND PHILADELPHIA WERE THE ONLY TWO REAL GOOD TEAMS IN THE NBA AT THE TIME, THAT'S WHY THE MET IN THE FINALS ALMOST EVERY YEAR, WHICH IS HOW RED AURBACH OR HOWEVER YOU SPELL HIS NAME WON 9 TITLES. Wilt was an amazing player, yes, but on MJ's level? Hahaha, your crazy! The mid 80's through the late 90's were the BEST basketball years, ask ANYONE. Today, it's rare people even care for the NBA, it's not exciting like it used to be. And back then, most of the players were fundamentally worthless and were white, slow, unathletic people who just put on a jersey. You also have to remember Wilt was 7'0, that was UNHEARD of back then, his only REAL competition was the Boston Celtics who had Bill Russell, who was JUST as dominant as Wilt. So there is NO way in **** he is better than Michael, one of the greatest, definetly, maybe even the 2nd greatest, but DEFINETLY NOT better than MJ. If you want to throw stats out, let me know, I know just about every stat there is to know about Michael Jordan. Wilt was amazing, but MJ was the GREATEST.

[Streetballin4life]

ummm you suck... i just posted how much talent wilt played against. one player on each team with a bead of talent? are you kidding me??? you obviously know nothing about classic basketball so please, please dont try to be part of the conversation...
^Okay Mr. NBA History, name some players of that era that can even START contend with the teams like, the Lakers of the 80's the Celtics of the 80's, the Suns of the early 90's, the Rockets, the Magic in the later 90's, the Charlotte Hornets, Miami Heat, and oh yeah don't forget the '96 Bulls that went 72-10 THE GREATEST NBA RECORD OF ALL TIME!

[Streetballin4life]

obviously a lot of these opinions are by a bunch of youngsters, except for the guys who brough Russell into the conversation. Wilt would be one of the best if he played in this era. Thers so many guys you can name though, and one i was very dissapointed to not hear. OSCAR ROBERTSON!!!!!!!!! Dude averaged a triple double, did Jordan do that??????

Please dont tell me there were no other talents at that time, cause thats a bunch of bs.

I dont know if I think the big O is the best of all time, but I can say hes accomplished something noone else has. (averaged a Triple DOuble 4 a season)

100 point games - Wilt / Dujuan Wagner in High School, good ol' ghetto Camden high in NJ, and cant forget Regg's sister Sheryl, she also dropped 100 before.

Most assists in a game - 32 assists by Scott Skiles.

I could go on 4 days, but I dont want to share my expertise with you folks.

^And Lisa Leslie scored 100 IN ONE HALF, AND THE OTHER TEAM FORFEITED AT HALFTIME! DOES THAT MAKE HER THE GREATEST BBALL PLAYER EVER, **** NO! WHY? LOOK AT THE COMPETITION! EXACTLY! HOW MANY 40 AND 50 POINT GAMES DID JORDAN HAVE? HOW MANY SCORING TITLES? 9, YEAH WILT AND RUSSELL PLAYED WITH A BUNCH OF REDNECK HILLBILLY'S FROM THE 60'S AND 70'S, NO COMPETITION AT ALL!

[+XCash_MoneyX+]

I'll tell you who the best was.

It was Spud Webb

[Streetballin4life]

correct! it will always be mj......MAGIC JOHNSON!!!
are you guys kidding me? he revolutionized the game being a 6'9 point guard with extreme court vision
^Yeah along with James Worthy and Kareem Adbul Jabarr, are you serious, Magic was just an athletic guy, I honestly would put Larry Bird in front of him, he did exact what Magic did, except he hustled more, had a waaay better shot, and led his team just as well, Bird was better than Magic, oh yeah, he was WHITE too.

[uconn34]

Hey im not here to argue or nothing but in my opinion Julius "Dr.J" Erving is the greatest of all time.

[UofMFan]

I would take Both Bird and Johnson over Jordan.


Both were better passers and rebounders. Plus they were both better shooters. Both had better Fg% and FT%. The only difference is they took less shots.


I would take Johnson, Bird, Robertson, Chamberlain, Jabbar, Jordan in that order

[cae_b_c]

I would take Both Bird and Johnson over Jordan.


Both were better passers and rebounders. Plus they were both better shooters. Both had better Fg% and FT%. The only difference is they took less shots.


I would take Johnson, Bird, Robertson, Chamberlain, Jabbar, Jordan in that order



I am not what you would call a "Jordan fan". But Jordan could do two things that those guys could not....(and I dont mean dunking)

1. Time and time again Jordan beat greats in the playoffs, and thoes greats were never looked at the same way again. EXAMPLES: Barkley, Kemp, Malone, Ewing, Drexler, ect.

Sure Magic beat Larry, but they would come back at each other. It made for a great rivalry, but takes away from there tags as the greatest. MJ beat both of them and neither really ever came back at him. You can site age as a reason, but lets face it, nobody ever went at Jordan and the bulls twice and looked the same (Shaq excluded).

2. He would not allow you to beat him! How? Defense. The man was a far better defender than any of the guys named. Whenever the topic of the greatest comes up, its always focused around the Offensive #'s. Well MJ was an intimidator on both sides in his 6 ring tours, and that is why he is usually mentioned as the greatest.

Im not saying that Chamberlain, and Robertson were not great, but I have never really seen those guys play. All I know is there numbers, and the hear-say.

And if you just want to go by #'s and hear-say lets talk about Bill Russell. Know as one of the best defenders/rebounders/locker room leaders of all time, and he had more rings than fingers! Not to mention he beat Chamberlian (time and time again). Sure he had great teammats, but so did alot of so-called greats (Kobe). But big Bill knew what it took to be a great champion and that was what made him great.

[Carlbunga]

You guys who said that Chamberlain played against no competition that he played against Bill Russel, Bill Walton, Nate Thurmand, Kareem, and Walt Bellamy. Also, for those who say that Jordan played the best competition, he also played some of the worst. 1988 was the year the Charlotte Hornets and Miami Heat join the NBA as expansion teams. 1989, the Minnesota Timberwolves and Orlando Magic join as expansion teams. 1995, the Toronto Raptors and Vancouver Grizzlies join as expansion teams.

[gozags21]

jordan hit prolly 99% of his shots with his team down by 1 with 5 sec left. he was clutch, i'd take him over bird and magic anyday

[detroitfan21]

no duh it will be future player tarence kinsey or chauncey billups!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!also i say the best player that use to play was..LARRY BIRD or MJ!!!!!!!!

[detroitfan21]

LARRY BIRD OR MJ

[Pinoy Dynasty]

Michael Jordan or Julius Erving