2k7 does not look bad at all compared to 07

[CellFish]

I happened to have downloaded videos of both NHL 2K7 and NHL 07 recently. They're constantly on my desktop so that I can look at them and consider which of the two games I prefer. Mind you, both of the games have been pre-ordered on my side, however they both boast features that I consider fantastic and I find it interesting to compare them.

Contrary to what NHL 07 fans will tell you, the NHL 2K7 in-game play looks a lot better. The new animations, added to what already was in the game, makes for realistic/fluid player movement. NHL 07 is ridiculously choppy and shows that EA will need a few years to catch up to 2k on the animation side from this point on.

However, after watching the NHL 2K7 media blowout on gameinformer.com, I realized that cinemotion is probably the coolest thing to happen to the series in years. Watching the coach, skaters and fans talk was absolutely mind-blowing. It's such a simple feature and yet it absolutely blew my mind that nobody thought of it sooner. It gives the game personality, something it has been lacking. In addition, the cinemotion music is brilliant. I watched the player use the Minnesota Wild and quickly lose the game 2-0. When he scored the first goal, the game's main song (Hot Hot Heat - Talk to Me) played on the speaker and I have to admit that it even got me going. Immediately, you could see the Minnesota Wild's players feel the effect of the momentum and play better in the following period. Second goal is scored and once again, the song comes on. It wasn't long before the Minnesota Wild took control of the game. Absolutely brilliant. I should mention that in the intermission preceding the Wild's second goal, the Minnesota Wild players were in the locker room talking about how they needed a better effort for the next period.

Add to that the absolutely perfect camera that shows you what's going on on the entirety of the ice and you have a very very satisfying game.

Once I was done with those videos, I moved on to the NHL 07 videos. I love that you can control the stick with the right analog controller. However, from looking at the videos, it quickly dawned on me that the use of the right analog is a gimmick (like the Wii controller) that is meant to hide the fact that everything else in the game is shoddy. I challenge anyone who is convinced that NHL 07 is a better game to look at an NHL 2K7 video right before or right after an NHL 07 video and seriously tell me that the game itself (not the cutscenes) look better in 07. To me, the animations are absolutely horrible and their choppiness reminds me of NHLPA 93. In all honesty, they look like NHL 06 but with better cutscenes.

Once you consider that 2K7 also has an enforcer mode, pressure control (to put pressure on star players), pro control (use the face buttons to pass to key players when in the offensive zone) and that it will be the only game to feature 'create-a-team' on the next-generation consoles, and suddenly NHL 07 doesn't look too incredible.

Mind you, I'm still buying it.

[wrAthchild]

NHL 07 is ridiculously choppy and shows that EA will need a few years to catch up to 2k on the animation side from this point on.

At last someone who acknowledges this gameplay killer (?) to come; been my opinion since I first lay eyes on those clips :)

[SDonahue]

You can talk all you want but the goalies in 2k7 still look **** poor. In one of the videos the guy scored the same cheap cut from the corner goal and the goalie did the same crazy diving save. The goalies look really good in 07 and that's a HUGE part of the games if not the biggest.

[CellFish]

sdonahue, just watch the videos back to back and tell me that NHL 07, in the smoothness of animations, looks as good as 2k7 does.

[Crashthenet]

[QUOTE=CellFish]NHL 07 is ridiculously choppy and shows that EA will need a few years to catch up to 2k on the animation side from this point on.QUOTE]

EA's goalie animations *****es all over 2k goalies, If the gamplay from both games are close i would go for EA's game because of the awesome goalie animations.

[gohabs93]

I'd be happy with a game just like 2k6 but BETTTTTTER GOALIES! The goalies move just like 2k6, they dont slide from a side to another butterfly like.

[wrAthchild]

I'm used to playing soccer so I really don't mind those diving saves...Overall 2k gameplay beats one or two goalie screwups - rarely affecting match outcome - any day. Period.

[ToyDingo]

I don't understand where are this uproar about bad goalie animations are coming from. The 2K goalies look great to me. The EA goalies look great as well. The only thing that is going to make or break either game is gameplay. Graphics are second place. And as far as I'm concerned 2K looks to play a better game of hockey...

...now if only they can fix those darn glitches and bugs...

[gohabs93]

I don't understand where are this uproar about bad goalie animations are coming from. The 2K goalies look great to me. The EA goalies look great as well. The only thing that is going to make or break either game is gameplay. Graphics are second place. And as far as I'm concerned 2K looks to play a better game of hockey...

...now if only they can fix those darn glitches and bugs...

In 2K, the goalies dont slide on the ice from on end to another, they just jump trying to block it with their blocker. If they dont improve the goalie animation , then the goalies would suck like in 2k6. If the goalies suck, who cares about the rest of gameplay?

[SDonahue]

sdonahue, just watch the videos back to back and tell me that NHL 07, in the smoothness of animations, looks as good as 2k7 does.


Ummm I wasn't talking about how the game looks but if you want to then lets go ahead. There's no way you can tell me that graphically, NHL 2k7 is anywhere NEAR as good as 07. I am talking about quality of gameplay which is what everything boils down to. So far I am not impressed by 2k7's gameplay....OOOH DROP PASS....********. You want to impress me, make me play a game that feels like hockey. 2K6 was close to that and I play it a tonne but with that i know almost all the flaws of this stupid game.

If 2k7 doens't improve on the goalies (the goalie animation on 07 looks a BILLION times better than 2K7) then I will be more ****ed off than ever.

BEST EXAMPLE

In a video for 2K7, a guy does one of the cheap moves from 2K6 (cut in from the corner, skate right through the crease and the goalie flops) and the same thing happens. The goalie FLYS thorugh the air trying to make a diving save like THEY ALWAYS DO.

NOW.....NHL 07 video....guys does the same move (cut in from the corner, skate right through the crease) and what does the goalie do.....he did what most goalies do....he went into the butterfly, through out the pad, blocker, and reached out to try and make the save.

Now if how is 2K7 going to beat 07 if 2K still has their goalies FLYING all over the place while 07 has goalies that acutally try to make real saves.

2ND BEST EXAMPLE

NHL 07's puck physics looks amazing right now. The puck isn't stuck to anyones stick and it doens't just magically stick to the goalie. Goalies have to actually cover the puck unlike 2K where after the puck hits the goalie, it's either in his glove or he automatically has it on his stick right away ready to shoot out.



I will be buying both games but EA looks like it's going to take it this year EASY.

What does 2K have....OOOOH CINEMOTION AND FOGGY ICE. The last thing I need in the last period is a foggy screen and trumpets.

[SDonahue]

I'm used to playing soccer so I really don't mind those diving saves...Overall 2k gameplay beats one or two goalie screwups - rarely affecting match outcome - any day. Period.


I am going to assume that you have never played 2K6 online at all because if you did you would know exactly what I am talking about. Try having 12 "shrug" goals scored against you, then have the goalie do retarded dives, then have the other person use crease control and play SUPER cheap...then...THEN...come back to me here and tell me that the goalies in 2K are fine.

[gohabs93]

The atmosphere and the arena are too dark just like nhl 2k. Nhl 07 looks more realistic. But, the problem with 07 is the way they move, just too fast and they slide alot.Look at the video of the shootout where thee guy is using Ryan Smith. Nobody moves his sitck that fast. Also, the defense does not seem to be good, they don't collapse infront of the net , they just go on offense then when the team loses the puck it gives an outnumbered break to the other team. Same problem as all nhls.

[SDonahue]

I think 2K will still be more "real" but 07 looks like it will be so much fun.

[vanhalendlrband]

I think 2K will still be more "real" but 07 looks like it will be so much fun.

So in order to have a good hockey game, your logic is **** reality turn this game into pong and lets have fun.

[wrAthchild]

I am going to assume that you have never played 2K6 online at all because if you did you would know exactly what I am talking about. Try having 12 "shrug" goals scored against you, then have the goalie do retarded dives, then have the other person use crease control and play SUPER cheap...then...THEN...come back to me here and tell me that the goalies in 2K are fine.

That's a correct assumtion, I don't play online. Why should I? :)

[gohabs93]

I am used to watching and playing hockey, I wouldn't mind having the goalies in Fifa moving butterfly like :P

[sleepytercel]

Well, online...it doesn't help that most of you people complaining continued playing Arcade Game Type on the Pro level, then afterwards, whine that the game doesn't play on your standards. The game actually played quite well (I had the Xbox version) when I custom matched people with Hall of Famer level and Sim Game Type. However, people complained when I set the matches up that way saying it was too slow and you couldn't score enough. Basically, lets just continue contradicting ourselves. those game settings improved the gameplay nearily 100 percent online. My average scores in game were about 4-2, 3-0, 5-4. I wasn't complaining.

[ToyDingo]

Well, online...it doesn't help that most of you people complaining continued playing Arcade Game Type on the Pro level, then afterwards, whine that the game doesn't play on your standards. The game actually played quite well (I had the Xbox version) when I custom matched people with Hall of Famer level and Sim Game Type. However, people complained when I set the matches up that way saying it was too slow and you couldn't score enough. Basically, lets just continue contradicting ourselves. those game settings improved the gameplay nearily 100 percent online. My average scores in game were about 4-2, 3-0, 5-4. I wasn't complaining.


You can't argue with 10 year olds...just enjoy your game the way you want...

[KITCHENERBOY]

How is hof real when your opponet scores slap shot goals from centre ice with no screen?.How is hof real when the players suck more at grabbing a loose puck ( skateing over it 5 times)?how is hof eliminating exploit goals when they happen just the same?

[sleepytercel]

How is hof real when your opponet scores slap shot goals from centre ice with no screen?.How is hof real when the players suck more at grabbing a loose puck ( skateing over it 5 times)?how is hof eliminating exploit goals when they happen just the same?

First, lets clear this up, I never said it was "real". Second, it's amazing that I've had much better results and scores overall with these settings online. Yeah, the same cheap shots will go in, but with the Sim Game Type, it's harder to set this up considering you don't have nearily the direct control you have when you play default.

[FSOTG]

You can talk all you want but the goalies in 2k7 still look **** poor. In one of the videos the guy scored the same cheap cut from the corner goal and the goalie did the same crazy diving save. The goalies look really good in 07 and that's a HUGE part of the games if not the biggest.


Maybe but at least the goalie is in his goal and not stuck on a post like in 2k6, and no keeper stop all shots that look easy the question is are they going to stop those shot most of the time instead of let them in most of the time like in 2k6? But for the rest the more I see and learn about this game the better it looks.

[SDonahue]

So in order to have a good hockey game, your logic is **** reality turn this game into pong and lets have fun.


WTF are you talking about......I still don't get where you are going with this....are you high?

I am saying that 2K will be more real which I love. I have played 2K6 to death so I know exactly what I am talking about. Reality is alot of fun in sports games but 07 look alot more real than 06 and the dual analog and amazing graphics really add on to it.

[SDonahue]

Where's Cellfish. For a man that put out a challeng, he sure turned away pretty quick.

[tymad]

Listen the people who whine about the goalies are clowns who don't know the meaning of defense. Those shots can be stopped, I know I have not lost a game online since December. 2K will blow EA out of the water again this year as usual. Purest of hockey want great gameplay first, graphics second. I will never buy an EA hockey game as long as they continue using guys on rollerskates to do their animations- totally bogus animations that's why the guys move like crap. Learn to play defense and maybe you won't lose so much by the corner shot goals.:rotfl:

[Slestak]

I like to play online, and 2K6 was garbage online. I run leagues, and have had people had to drop out because of lock-ups, freezes, and crashes.

I'm buying both games this year, but for me, this is 2K's last chance. If they don't clean up their network problems, I'll switch to EA.



EDIT: Oh, and right now, EA's game looks heads and shoulders better than 2K's. This is coming from a guy who has been a 2K stalwart.

[gohabs93]

[QUOTE=tymad]Listen the people who whine about the goalies are clowns who don't know the meaning of defense. Those shots can be stopped, I know I have not lost a game online since December.

Since when is hockey all about defense? What's point of playing a game where you have to stop all shots with your defense since the goalie is useless. In 2k6 you have to play perfectly to win. Your players have to be always positioned perfectly and poke the puck when the guy is about to shoot top corner. Its cool the first period but then it gets annoying. I think that nhl 2k7 will blow EA in everything except goalies animation (I think this is a very important part).The way you can play defence and control it is really great in 2k.

[SDonahue]

Listen the people who whine about the goalies are clowns who don't know the meaning of defense. Those shots can be stopped, I know I have not lost a game online since December. 2K will blow EA out of the water again this year as usual. Purest of hockey want great gameplay first, graphics second. I will never buy an EA hockey game as long as they continue using guys on rollerskates to do their animations- totally bogus animations that's why the guys move like crap. Learn to play defense and maybe you won't lose so much by the corner shot goals.:rotfl:


You're ****ing retarded

[KITCHENERBOY]

I hear u guys about the cry babies.. i get ganged up on for beating people online with solid hard driving the net shooting and if it dont go in i snap a rebound and that is a exploit to the loosers ,so what do they do? they go on the lobby and say i used 5 wrap around goals.I dont use them, i dont wanna ever do wraps cause thats just to easy to score.

[tpp]

Oh, and right now, EA's game looks heads and shoulders better than 2K's. This is coming from a guy who has been a 2K stalwart.

EA's NHL games ALWAYS *look* better. They usually *play* worse. I'll give you this though...next year appears to be the first time in years that EA seems to have a fighting chance against 2K.

I'll reserve my final judgment until I've actually had the chance of trying both.

[KITCHENERBOY]

:rotfl: Give me a break, most of u are gonna be so stupid to buy it instead of renting it only for u all to say things like Im demanding a refund,or ill never buy a 2k game again, only 2 buy one next year. Let me know if anyof u are gonna be on 2k5 cause im done with 2k6 cause cd is scratched to crap and i aint about to buy another when EA comes out in couple weeks.Allthough ill try it before i buy it cause i am smart.
Imean omg they added a couple of useless things and ploished up the graphics and added songs performed by bands that smoke pot all day to get u hooked on the game and u dont see how ****ty the game play actualy is.Least E.A. went out and built it from ground up.08 will be only better. Take my advice on this, all of u *****ed about the cheese and wrap goals, well i saw the video at EB games and on there big tv screen they show every title that is comming out and they showed 2k7, and omg it was lousy. The wrap goal was so babdly easy to score on that i think the 2k6 goalies had way better luck with them.
Oh, i know im gonna take alot of heat and idiot comments about this post...but ill probably be laughing at u all when u all start posting about how u should have never spent the money on this game.

[ToyDingo]

:rotfl: Give me a break, most of u are gonna be so stupid to buy it instead of renting it only for u all to say things like Im demanding a refund,or ill never buy a 2k game again, only 2 buy one next year. Let me know if anyof u are gonna be on 2k5 cause im done with 2k6 cause cd is scratched to crap and i aint about to buy another when EA comes out in couple weeks.Allthough ill try it before i buy it cause i am smart.
Imean omg they added a couple of useless things and ploished up the graphics and added songs performed by bands that smoke pot all day to get u hooked on the game and u dont see how ****ty the game play actualy is.Least E.A. went out and built it from ground up.08 will be only better. Take my advice on this, all of u *****ed about the cheese and wrap goals, well i saw the video at EB games and on there big tv screen they show every title that is comming out and they showed 2k7, and omg it was lousy. The wrap goal was so babdly easy to score on that i think the 2k6 goalies had way better luck with them.
Oh, i know im gonna take alot of heat and idiot comments about this post...but ill probably be laughing at u all when u all start posting about how u should have never spent the money on this game.

I don't understand what everyone's gripe is with 2k6. My PS2 copy worked great. Sure there were cheese goals but every game has exploits.

I don't buy into EA's garbage. Every year they polish their game and it "looks" beautiful. The graphics can't be beat, there is no question there. But the gameplay is always so shallow and easy to exploit.

Bottom Line: rent before you buy...

[gohabs93]

I don't understand what everyone's gripe is with 2k6. My PS2 copy worked great. Sure there were cheese goals but every game has exploits.

I don't buy into EA's garbage. Every year they polish their game and it "looks" beautiful. The graphics can't be beat, there is no question there. But the gameplay is always so shallow and easy to exploit.

Bottom Line: rent before you buy...

Ps2 and xbox versions are great, but the 360 version is bad.

[sleepytercel]

Ps2 and xbox versions are great, but the 360 version is bad.

Maybe it's a first round blues. I think NHL2K7 will give us a good taste on whether Kush is serious about the 360, and also an idea on what they plan to do with the MLB game. If NHL2K7 is a minor upgrade, don't expect too much for MLB2K7 either.

[dcleary]

I haven't seen or heard much about the 2K7 so I thought I check out the forums. I am not going to get into arguements with fanboys over which game has better this or that because until I sit down with both it is pure speculation. EA's boards are full of the same thing.

That said, I am disappointed that 2K hasn't improved the graphics to what I would consider Next Gen levels. The players still move like Herman Munster in hockey equipment. Last year's game was an joke in my opinion and 2K really missed an opportunity to firm up its leader title in hockey games. I am also disappointed with the lack of promotion on 2K's part. What happened to Top Shelf Tuesdays? EA has a fairly consistent stream of videos and preview articles. They are really creating a buzz - wake up 2K. So far, I think that EA's game looks better but I don't have much material to compare with and no HD gameplay. What I've seen so far looks like a minor upgrade from last year.

Game play has always been the decider (not to be confused with President Bush who is the "Decider") when I get both I'll know which is better.

[sleepytercel]

I haven't seen or heard much about the 2K7 so I thought I check out the forums. I am not going to get into arguements with fanboys over which game has better this or that because until I sit down with both it is pure speculation. EA's boards are full of the same thing.

That said, I am disappointed that 2K hasn't improved the graphics to what I would consider Next Gen levels. The players still move like Herman Munster in hockey equipment. Last year's game was an joke in my opinion and 2K really missed an opportunity to firm up its leader title in hockey games. I am also disappointed with the lack of promotion on 2K's part. What happened to Top Shelf Tuesdays? EA has a fairly consistent stream of videos and preview articles. They are really creating a buzz - wake up 2K. So far, I think that EA's game looks better but I don't have much material to compare with and no HD gameplay. What I've seen so far looks like a minor upgrade from last year.

Game play has always been the decider (not to be confused with President Bush who is the "Decider") when I get both I'll know which is better.

It also gets old to hear how people wanted this next gen stuff now, like the 360 has been out for years or something. Well, you know what, let the first year by, and lets see what they have this year. Considering it's been an entire year, lets forget about the ports, especially since we all KNEW that they were releasing ports, but yet we still act surprised.

[dcleary]

It also gets old to hear how people wanted this next gen stuff now, like the 360 has been out for years or something. Well, you know what, let the first year by, and lets see what they have this year. Considering it's been an entire year, lets forget about the ports, especially since we all KNEW that they were releasing ports, but yet we still act surprised.

I am a bit confused by your reply, I want next gen games for my next gen console, that's why I bought it, to play games that are better than my first gen box? I'm sorry it gets old to you but I would get used to it as these boards tend to be places for people to vent their displeasure.

I am saying based on what I have seen so far, for 2K7, that it does not meet my expectations for next gen. It doesn't really matter to me for how long they've had dev kits (long before the 360's release) or why it isn't better now, I will pay for what satisfies me, it is that simple. No offence but what satisfies you isn't relevant to me because you're not buying the game for me, although you're welcome to. I thought last year's NHL 2K6 for the 360 was weak so I bought the cheaper first gen Xbox. I played the Madden game last year and it stunk and I didn't by it.

[sleepytercel]

You can be confused, but lets sit here in reality first. The only two systems that offered anything in the way of next-gen for their times, upon their arrival, were the N64 and the Dreamcast. Pretty much every system released did not offer much in the way beyond what was already seen. Did we forget that the PS2 had a terrible first year offering? Did we forget that the Xbox didn't have much either. (Which is ironic as Visual Concepts offered ports in their first releases for PS2 and Xbox, but 2K3 was their true next-gen offerings for those systems). Reality usually tells you that you won't see what is to be truly offered until about a year after a system is released. I think many of you forget that. While the 360 has some next gen like games, we won't see anything until Christmas. NHL2K7 may not look next gen on your standards, however, I think it looks much better than 2K6's port. We haven't really seen enough to make a proper opinion yet. Heck, while EA's offerings look next gen in stil pics, there are still things to be desired when you see them in motion. So the definition of "next gen" is more of an individual opinion, rather than actual factual presence.

[graz]

u have 2 rember that EA'S final game might look as good as the trailers.
EA is famous for doing this. rember the target trailer for madden from last year lol
and where 2KS hockey will look like the trailer

[vanhalendlrband]

Ummm I wasn't talking about how the game looks but if you want to then lets go ahead. There's no way you can tell me that graphically, NHL 2k7 is anywhere NEAR as good as 07. I am talking about quality of gameplay which is what everything boils down to. So far I am not impressed by 2k7's gameplay....OOOH DROP PASS....********. You want to impress me, make me play a game that feels like hockey. 2K6 was close to that and I play it a tonne but with that i know almost all the flaws of this stupid game.

If 2k7 doens't improve on the goalies (the goalie animation on 07 looks a BILLION times better than 2K7) then I will be more ****ed off than ever.

BEST EXAMPLE

In a video for 2K7, a guy does one of the cheap moves from 2K6 (cut in from the corner, skate right through the crease and the goalie flops) and the same thing happens. The goalie FLYS thorugh the air trying to make a diving save like THEY ALWAYS DO.

NOW.....NHL 07 video....guys does the same move (cut in from the corner, skate right through the crease) and what does the goalie do.....he did what most goalies do....he went into the butterfly, through out the pad, blocker, and reached out to try and make the save.

Now if how is 2K7 going to beat 07 if 2K still has their goalies FLYING all over the place while 07 has goalies that acutally try to make real saves.

2ND BEST EXAMPLE

NHL 07's puck physics looks amazing right now. The puck isn't stuck to anyones stick and it doens't just magically stick to the goalie. Goalies have to actually cover the puck unlike 2K where after the puck hits the goalie, it's either in his glove or he automatically has it on his stick right away ready to shoot out.



I will be buying both games but EA looks like it's going to take it this year EASY.

What does 2K have....OOOOH CINEMOTION AND FOGGY ICE. The last thing I need in the last period is a foggy screen and trumpets.

Are you sure you watch hockey at all? Because it sounds like you don't at all. 2007 looks more like 2K7 then anything. Just because 2K doesn't have the SUPER Goalies (meaning fake goaltending that only looks good in a videogame but is never seen in an actual NHL game).

So far 2007 is a vast improvement over the past EA games, and as someone actually from Vancouver like i am i hope that EA's game is better but so far it looks like its just copying more of 2K then ever, and i got sick of those super goalies way back in 2002. They stop everything but cheap goals, i saw 2007 goalie get beat with an S move, i'd like to see if thats the cheap move.

I'm still undecided on whats better as i've only seen movies, and you are obviously an EA fan that has nothing better to do then **** all over 2K whenever your too bored of the movies in waiting for the new game.

Also i had NHL 2001 when it first came out on PS2, i was so ****ed off. It was when i started really getting sick of EA wasting my time adding stupid features instead of gameplay, and look at 2006 hardly any different than 2001. So don't give me that either, i know more about EA than any fanboy ever will because i was one till they kept screwing me around with their **** poor gameplay.

As for next gen graphics, i'd say people are sadly mistaken over 2k7, it looks a lot better then it ever has and is definitly next gen graphics. EA's look more polished and glossy like a poster. 2K's is more detailed.

Remember when 2001 2002 ea's Stadiums all looked just like GM Place?

Well thank 2k for changing that and getting EA to shape up and actually make different stadiums for each arena. And not just using my Canucks stadium for every team.

Man you EA fans are so blinded by the name, i am not blinded by any name. And if 989 comes out with a better hockey game (if they are even making one) or even Microsoft i will not have a heart attack but at least buy it and know i'm playing the most realistic hockey game.

[SDonahue]

Are you sure you watch hockey at all? Because it sounds like you don't at all. 2007 looks more like 2K7 then anything. Just because 2K doesn't have the SUPER Goalies (meaning fake goaltending that only looks good in a videogame but is never seen in an actual NHL game).

So far 2007 is a vast improvement over the past EA games, and as someone actually from Vancouver like i am i hope that EA's game is better but so far it looks like its just copying more of 2K then ever, and i got sick of those super goalies way back in 2002. They stop everything but cheap goals, i saw 2007 goalie get beat with an S move, i'd like to see if thats the cheap move.

I'm still undecided on whats better as i've only seen movies, and you are obviously an EA fan that has nothing better to do then **** all over 2K whenever your too bored of the movies in waiting for the new game.

Also i had NHL 2001 when it first came out on PS2, i was so ****ed off. It was when i started really getting sick of EA wasting my time adding stupid features instead of gameplay, and look at 2006 hardly any different than 2001. So don't give me that either, i know more about EA than any fanboy ever will because i was one till they kept screwing me around with their **** poor gameplay.

As for next gen graphics, i'd say people are sadly mistaken over 2k7, it looks a lot better then it ever has and is definitly next gen graphics. EA's look more polished and glossy like a poster. 2K's is more detailed.

Remember when 2001 2002 ea's Stadiums all looked just like GM Place?

Well thank 2k for changing that and getting EA to shape up and actually make different stadiums for each arena. And not just using my Canucks stadium for every team.

Man you EA fans are so blinded by the name, i am not blinded by any name. And if 989 comes out with a better hockey game (if they are even making one) or even Microsoft i will not have a heart attack but at least buy it and know i'm playing the most realistic hockey game.


Are you high or just retarded.....like seriously....wtf dude? This is quite possibly the stupidest rebuttle I have ever heard.

Sweet **** where to start. Ok....where the hell do you get off calling me an EA fanboy....just because I call it as I see it and it doens't go in 2K's favour I am a "fanboy"...MORON. I have owned almost every EA AND 2K hockey game and 2K has been leaps and bounds better than EA. That being said it is no where near the perfect game.

I can GUARANTEE you that i have played more 2K on the 360 than you have. Tonnes of lobby games PLUS being part of the top 3 online leauges so I know the game inside and out. I have a great understanding of it's strengths and weaknesses. With that being said I have a good understanding of how things will be based on watching the 2K videos. That's what lead me to voice my opinion on what scares me.

HOWEVER the last video that 2k has put out looks amazing and is the first thing I have seen that actually makes me excited for it.

I will be getting both games on their opening day and I can't wait for either.

The earlier videos for 2K7 did show crappy goaltending while 2007's goalies looked great (it's the truth). 2K6 has HORRIBLE HORRIBLE goaltending and I don't want to see that in 2K7.

OK.....now to move on to the other dribble you posted. What's with bringing up the crap they did in 2001 and 2002. Everyone knows it was **** but what does that have to do with this? That's like me saying "EA IS THE BEST EVER AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE BECAUSE OF NHL 94".....yeah not a solid argument.

What makes me excited for NHL 2007? The last great EA hockey game I played was 2004 (2005 was CRAP CRAP CCCCRRRAAAAPPPP and 2006 was ok at best) and the producer from that game is the producer for 2006 so I hope he can change things for the better.

What makes me excited for NHL 2K7? 2K6 was a really really fun game that really felt like hockey. That being said it was RIDDLED with bugs and ****ty ****ty goaltending that almost made the game unplayable. I am hoping with a year to work things out, 2K7 will be all that was good with 2K6 with all the crap worked out.


EA FANBOY THAT MORON. :)


I could go on but I'll let you settle with that for now.

[SDonahue]

oooh man just thinking about past games.....remember when EA had the big hit and the breakaway cam.....EEESH!

[gohabs93]

So what if goalies get beaten by an S move? Isnt that how players usally deke on a breakaway?Just dont give any breakaways. IF the person you are playing against is able to do an S move and score , then you suck lol. The worst NHL game ever is 05.

[SDonahue]

It's not IF a player can score with the S move....it's if they can score with the S move EVERY TIME.

[gohabs93]

But you can just hit him or hold L trigger and move your right analogue right and left and the guy will lose the puck. S move only works when a pro is playing a newbie.